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Getting incredibly frustrated with anatomy....STUDY TIME!Related content
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Hi, I'm here from
. I don't have time for a super-long comment right now, but here's some quick feedback:
I would suggest avoiding "boobplate" (armor that follows the curve of the breasts, with a dip between them) for two reasons:
1. It will channel attacks toward the center of her chest, instead of deflecting them away. Even if that doesn't result in the armor being breached, the concussive force of an attack will be directed toward her sternum, which increases the risk of injury.
2. The inward-facing point of armor between her breasts is effectively a spear aimed at her sternum. If she falls hard on her chest, that could drive the armor into her chest, and she could be injured or killed by her own gear.
The arm on the viewer's right looks good to me - I like how you made her appropriately muscular. However, the one on the viewer's left looks thinner compared to it, and I think the upper arm tapers a bit too much as it reaches the elbow.
Her neck tendons look fairly good, but they might go a bit too far down before meeting the collarbone. Here are some images of female bodybuilders viewed from angles similar to this your drawing: fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/upl…
I think the handle on the shield is a bit too far to the right for the angle at which the shield's being held; the shield arm looks almost perpendicular to the viewer, but the shield appears to be held diagonal to the "camera".
If I'm reading the angle of the sword hand right, the forward tip of the sword should probably be pointed more to the right. As it is, it looks like it's phasing intangibly through the backs of her fingers. I know the sword angle was mentioned in another comment, but I thought I'd add my two cents in case a bit more specificity would be helpful.
You did a great job with the hair color and facial features. It looks like you've got a strong grasp of facial anatomy, and from the neck up, it's easy to see where the light's coming from.
As you finish the rest of the shading, don't forget to make sure that the light direction is consistent across the rest of her body; I mention this because the arm on my left doesn't seem to be shadowed the same way as the rest, but at this stage I can't tell if that's a product of an inconsistent light direction or if you simply haven't shaded it yet.
Sorry I didn't have time to be more comprehensive; I hope you find my feedback helpful.
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Omg this is not a comprehensive comment??? It's so long! lol thank you so much!
It's not a finished work as you saw so the lighting isn't done evenly on the body. But thank you for reminding me to choose a light direction - I'm always forgetting this.
The arm on the left is totally off, the bulge on her shoulder is too big I think and as you said it tapers too much. I got really frustrated with that part XD...It's funny you found the two areas I was really stuck on, the neck and that arm! Actually sotpped painting this and did some studying of necks, but I need to do more - thanks for the reference photos I never thought of looking at body builders - don't know why! I always just look at regular girl poses, but for this it would really help cause it's very clear where everything is.
I like having female warriors be muscular as it's already a fantasy so may as well make it a little realistic? It just seems more legitimate somehow. Thanks for noticing.
As for the armor...I know it's not a very feminist way of portraying it and sometimes I dont (it will just be like men's armor) but I kind of like that you can tell it's not a man - maybe I can reduce the ..ahem, size..and make it flatter. As you do have a point.
I agree the shield handle is off for sure, will fix that. And the sword too toward the right more.
I spent more time on the face cause I feel like if that isn't right then the rest won't matter 
This is really good feedback, can't imagine what you normally do - I hope I will in the future
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Well, my really comprehensive ones can be 800 words and up, so by my standards, this was a fairly short critique, haha.
Sorry it took so long to reply; I’m in the middle of several big client projects, and stuff like that tends to lead to me procrastinating on long messages.
You’re welcome so much. It can be hard to tell with a WIP what an artist has already thought of but just hasn’t implemented yet, so I figured I’d point out the light direction just in case.
You’re welcome for the reference photos, and for noticing that your warrior was realistically muscular. Hopefully the photos will help; I figured I’d choose the body shape that was the closest possible approximation of what you were going for, especially given how much muscle mass influences the shape of the arms and the base of the neck.
For the breastplate, one option is to have a single wide bulge in the armor to accommodate both her breasts, with no indent between the breasts; that way, she doesn’t have the “spear aimed at her sternum” problem, but you can still tell she’s a woman.
There are also other ways to make armor flattering, feminine, yet functional; the breastplate in this picture is a good example. alexacedeath.deviantart.com/ar…
Prioritizing the face sounds like a wise choice. You’re welcome again for the feedback – I’m glad it was helpful!
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You have patience! Great job, it really helps everyone who received it I'm sure!
Don't worry it takes me ages t oreply as well
That's cool what are you working on?
Exactly, but that's the great part about getting feedback at this stage cause you can alter the direction more freely - include all the feedback into your own thoughts and a new recipe comes out of it ;D
Ooo good idea! Will try that with the breast plate...sounds like a good compromise.
Thanks again
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Thanks!
My main project is a multi-presenter seminar series, complete with scripts, 2-and-5-minute versions of the 20-minute scripts, and capture pages with autoresponders. And of course, all the cat-herding it takes to get busy businesspeople to actually look over their materials, give feedback, and book their recordings. And then there are all the minutiae that come with running a business, and other projects that come up... lots to juggle. I'm actually planning to bring another copywriter on board.
I agree - it's much easier to alter things in the WIP stage than it is once you've completed it and have put more time in/have more components to change/no longer want to work on it.
I'm glad the breastplate suggestion was helpful.
You're welcome again. ^_^
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Oh ok cool, are you an editor then? or a writer? Or both!
Maybe its the same lol, sorry I know nothing
No wonder you're so good at communicating with words, but that doesn't explain the patience -
Yeah i will work on that painting next I think, it's calling me from the depths of the wips 
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Both, though primarily a writer. A writer writes, and an editor checks the writer's creation for spelling, grammar, pacing, flow, sentence structure, readability, story quality, etc. I've seen one person explain it by saying to an editor, "You didn't create any of the words in this story; you just killed the ones that didn't deserve to live". 
The patience is something I've had as long as I can remember, at least for things I actually want to do. Though it takes some conscious self-discipline, too.
I wish you the best with completing the painting! Also, thanks for the watch.
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Ah that makes sense now. That's hilarious.
I think editing can be super important in art and writing - almost as important is the creating...because it can sometimes elevate an average piece to a great one.
It's a real valuable thing to have patience, I appreciate it cause I have very little!
Sure and thank you!
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You're welcome! I agree that editing can be as important as writing - how important it is comparatively depends on how clean your first draft is. Some people can get it close to correct on the first try (at least, on drafts where they were very clear on what they were doing when they started out); others basically spit a beautiful disaster onto the screen and then make it coherent while editing.
You're welcome!
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haha! beautiful disaster. I think that's how I write, at least when I had to write (uni) that's what it felt like. I am a mess and just throw everything on there, then go back and pick through it for the good parts lol.
Actually I was wondering if you knew anyone who writes short stories or children's books, I really want to illustrate one but can't write yet...Would love to do a collaboration somehow. Please let me know if you do
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I'm afraid I don't know anyone who's doing that, sorry. But there are lots of writing events and groups where you might be able to find someone. For example, @writeevent on Twitter posts tweets about the top writing events of each day, with their themes. Writers tend to congregate there.
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no problem, thanks for the hint
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first of all -- I adore the way you paint and the colors you use!
I feel like the sword is a touch too thick though? It looks a little like skyrim's paddle swords haha! I'd make it just a touch thinner <3
Keep up the great work!! Feel free to note me with any of the progress you make on this, I'd love to see the full piece!!
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Well thank you very much 
Oh yes the sword is huge. It's a rough idea I'll make it less paddle like
You're making me actually want to finish this! I'll note you for sure
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Go for it! I can't wait for you to finish it <3
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The angle of the sword seems wrong. There's probably a reference photo of someone holding a stick in a similar grip. Also, the weight of the sword isn't conveyed. This is a good start, though.
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Thank you for leaving feedback
I'll try to find a good reference - never have enough of it! Of yes I see what you mean her arm isn't tensed at all - I need to put some more thought into this!
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