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GUYS I haven't had a new OC in ages! But here she is! This is Wren the deer <3She is transgender!Β
I've always wanted a deer character and I've fallen in love with this design! I'm very pleased with her! If you have any questions about her, do feel free to ask!
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Note: If you ever feel like I am misrepresenting your sexuality in any way please do say! I love to try and represent as many as I can in my characters (such as Sanco being Asexual, Wren being transgender etc) but obviously I do not have experience as any of these firsthand so if you think anything seems off or you feel offended in any way do let me know and I'll see how I can fix the problem <3
If you are anti LGBT+ and want to let me know for some reason, you will be SASSED.
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you could say she's a transgendeerΒ
i'll go homeΒ
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Are you by any chance looking for any friends for this character? ; v ;
I loooove drawing deer, but I sadly don't have many cervine characters of my own. If you'd have it, i'd love to draw your character with one/both of mine! I have two.
This unnamed girl:Β orig05.deviantart.net/1751/f/2β¦
and Bamse:Β sta.sh/21cayk03xdup?edit=1
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A trans deer, that's so perfect!!! ^.^ Β Why didn't I think of that!?!Β
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Always loved deers, I find them a very majestic and beautiful creatures))
Especially spotty, just like this
You created a great character ^w^
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She's pretty cute. Great work on the designs
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this a first time I seen a transgender deer. I just thought it was a feminine male. Not to be offensive or anything its just that its not too too convincing. Its just the antlers.
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ahh well, I didn't want her looking TOO girly as a trans deer isn't really going to look exactly like a doe haha :'DΒ
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Probably would look more convincing if he'd attempted to saw off his antlers somehow in the past and continuously did that every time they grew back in; it would indicate and imply dysphoria which is needed to be transgender - because right now that's all she looks like - a male feminine deer (unless she's a reindeer).
Flowers =/= female.
Still looks really cute, though.
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It's worth noting that not every trans person physically transisions or wants to physically transition.
It is perfectly reasonable & realistic for her not to try to remove her antlers.
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It's a difference in definition, as people have consistently changed definitions.
A trans person, from the original definition, is one who has transitioned. A person who experiences feeling like the opposite gender in their biological body is a mental disorder that is called Gender Dysphoria.
That's where the miscommunication comes from.
If she was a reindeer, I could understand keeping the antlers, because then it really doesn't matter. It would make it interesting.
But if being trans is the main focus of the character, making the character fit into the actual scientific definition makes the story flow and convey much better.
So, yeah, not everyone who experiences gender dysphoria transitions. It is perfectly reasonable and realistic for the character not to remove her antlers.Β
But making the character with THAT being the main feature, which is odd because I personally wouldn't make a character's main feature something like ADHD or bipolar disorder unless you're teaching people about the issue, you'd want to convey it better by using terms that most people had agreed upon instead of the tumblr terms that the super self-righteous left groups are pushing on people without real evidence.
It's not something I'd take that seriously, it was just a minor grievance. Apologies for such a long response and for any other confusion based on mismatched definitions.
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The character is TransGENDER. The definition of TransGENDER is "does not identify with the gender assigned at birth",
or to be exact, according to the Oxford dictionary: "a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
Language changes constantly and I'm not going to stick to a decades old definition when there's a new, more correct one.Β
I'm taking it seriously because by saying "you need to have dysphoria to be trans" it seems like you are trying to invalidate trans people who do not whish to transition or do not have the means to.
If that's not your intention, fine, but if yes, I disagree.
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You can't be trans without dysphoria.
Identification in this sense doesn't mean you've chosen it.
Gender is linked to biology. You are born male or female, and your brain corresponds to that sex. Sometimes, there's a mix-up and a person is born with gender dysphoria which is a mental disorder where the brain is "wired differently". Sometimes it develops later in life, sometimes it develops before puberty, etc.
You are not trans if you aren't suffering from gender dysphoria.
The Oxford dictionary doesn't take into account the different usages of term "identity". Identity, in this case, doesn't refer to lifestyle choices. Identity, in this case, refers to one's sense of self. Something you can't change. A person with gender dysphoria would feel like the opposite sex, but experience distress to varying degrees when they realize that's not what they are. They're "trapped" in the wrong body. This is dysphoria. You HAVE to have gender dysphoria to be trans, even with the vague new definition that gets misconstrued depending on the agenda of the person using it.Β
No. Transition is not a prerequisite for suffering from dysphoria. For the sake of the argument, even with the new definition, it is still the case that you must suffer from gender dyphoria.Β
If not, the term is arbitrary and confuses "chosen identity" with a very real issue.Β
If a person chooses to identify with the opposite gender (which would be the case if they don't suffer from gender dysphoria), then what is the actual point in calling yourself trans if not to just pretend to be unique?
Edit: I'm actually dying on the inside, thinking about this conversation. Considering the fact that Oxford dictionary validated the word "mansplaining" says a lot about your source. "New Definition" doesn't mean good definition. It doesn't mean it even makes sense. It doesn't even mean that it really describes reality.
The way that the third-wave and tumblr/twitter has decided to use the term trans, and not in the way that would equate it to gender dysphoria (which is still dishonest but not nearly as bad as confusing it with a conscious choice to act or dress a certain way), is extremely harmful to getting people the help they need. The more of an umbrella we create, the worse it gets for people trying to get legitimate care. The more we attempt to mess up the definition, the harder it gets for people to legitimately seek help. We have tons of people thinking they're trans with zero gender dysphoria because the term has been entirely watered down. New definition or not, it doesn't work and it isn't correct.
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Listen, I disagree with you and I'm not going to discuss this with you, we are obviously not going to agree. Have a day.Β
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Just pointing out that it is possible for doe to have antlers, it's not super common but it does happen. So a deer having antlers doesn't exactly mean it's male 100% of the time regardless.Β
www.taxidermy.net/forums/DeerTβ¦
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This is true, but in pop-culture it's usually not the case.
It is the case for reindeer but she's clearly not a reindeer.
It's just bad story-telling with a cute character.
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I think you're taking it way too seriously lolΒ
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That really depends on your metric for measuring seriousness.Β
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Well, presenting isn't everything. Some trans people don't want to bother with that, and make their body their own in their own way.
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I know there are people with gender dysphoria that don't transition and make no effort to change their appearance to pass, but at that rate they're just people with gender dysphoria who dress a certain way.
That's hardly transgender.
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transgender isn't based on passing, it's based on your identity. If someone has a big bushy beard and tells you she's a girl, then she's still a girl, she's still transgender. Passing isn't a requirement for how you identify.
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You can identify however you want, that doesn't make you transgender.
The new definition doesn't work the way the new wave wanted it to. Transgender was synonymous with transsexual - hence MOST peoples' confusion when someone says they are transgender but they simply dress different or don't even put effort into changing their looks.
If you want to be seen as the opposite gender, passing to some extent is the requirement. That's usually the route people with gender dysphoria take. Why continue to look like the gender you don't feel like on the inside when it's easy these days to at least somewhat pass for the other?
If my friend told me she identified as a dog, sure I don't care, I'll call you what you want, I'm not a dick, but that's clearly not what you are.
There's no need to call yourself transgender unless you're making attempts to appear and pass as the opposite gender. You either have gender dysphoria or don't. You either have gender dysphoria and transition/attempt to pass as best you can (making you trans), you have gender dysphoria and you do nothing about it (making you simply a person with gender dysphoria - identity or not), or you're a person who simply says "I'm a boy/girl", dresses like a boy/girl and suffers from no gender dysphoria, making you a cross-dresser who wants to pretend.
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I respectfully disagree on the point that you are required to make an effort to pass in order to be trans. A lot of people can't put in the effort to stand up to society's standards for gender. In addition to this, this implies that you could have a cis girl dress like a tomboy, and people will still call her a girl, but if a trans girl dressed like a tomboy, she's a boy. This idea that certain clothes and appearance equate to gender only seems to be a standard held to trans people, which isn't really fair? Living is stressful enough, but society putting on the added pressure to look a very specific, high-effort way in order to be considered truly trans is, again, rather unfair.
Additionally, it's not actually safe for a lot of trans people to try to pass, be it because of the area they live in or where they work, attempting to pass could cause a lot of issues in terms of backlash and violence, as well as possibly losing your job and place to live. Passing isn't always the safe route, and on top of that, it's not the cheapest, either. Not all people are financially stable enough to make an effort to pass, considering the amount of money it can take to get the proper supplies and clothing.
All in all, there's a lot of aspects that go into passing that's not really fair to push onto people in order for them to feel properly validated in their identity.
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I just think if you're going to be recognized as the opposite sex, you should have physical features typically associated with the gender you feel you are inside.Β
That's just how most humans work when it comes to recognizing things in general. You'll notice how extremely manly women and very feminine men will get misgendered because they don't resemble their respective sexes. It's not a thing society placed on humans, it's how humans relate to one another mentally. We have sexual dimorphism as a species, whether anyone wants to believe that or not.
It's an automatic response that can't be taught.
I might call a person with gender dysphoria whatever they want to be called, but if they make no effort to change (regardless of their ability to), they're still going to appear as their original gender and people are going to misgender them until a day comes where they no longer do.
"Additionally, it's not actually safe for a lot of trans people to try to pass, be it because of the area they live in or where they work, attempting to pass could cause a lot of issues in terms of backlash and violence, as well as possibly losing your job and place to live. Passing isn't always the safe route, and on top of that, it's not the cheapest, either. Not all people are financially stable enough to make an effort to pass, considering the amount of money it can take to get the proper supplies and clothing."
1. These people aren't trans, they suffer from gender dysphoria. Regardless of the idea that having gender dysphoria means you're trans, you can't expect anyone to even call them trans if there is no transition. There isn't even a need to BE trans (your definition of trans, I should say) and trans (either of our definitions) shouldn't be an identity. The identifying factor is the gender, not the label, when it comes to dysphoria. Β
2. No one, at this point, would even be able to recognize them as "trans" for the same safety reasons you've cited. It would be dangerous to their health to inform other people.
Life's not exactly fair and neither is human perception. You can't expect it to be and you can't push it without expecting backlashing.
Yeah, it sucks that people can't afford to help themselves, but just because they can't doesn't mean we can warp definitions to make them feel better.
Edit: People can call themselves whatever they want, despite definitions that exist, and make up definitions for things and even put them into the dictionary despite how wrong they may be, but they can't be so delusional that they expect society to follow or agree with them based simply on feelings. It would save people a lot of confusion (and quite possibly anger) if this kind of expectation didn't exist. It's too much to ask of society.
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*raises hand*
I am bi. Sass me.
(XD this is a joke, plz don't hurt me)
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YOU DO NOT PASS THE SASS TEST
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Ok, lemme try again.
*hastily raises hand*
I'm as bi as a lion is furreh. Sass meh.
Du traust dich ja nicht.
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pleeeeeeeeeeease lol i am having Succubean work on my reference of her
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Absolutely gorgeous girl! <333 An expertly executed design!
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