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Scourgiex [2020-03-07 05:27:36 +0000 UTC]
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imperialdraco [2019-08-24 19:18:41 +0000 UTC]
I like 1,3,4,6 and 9 best. I think 7 would've backfire .
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Kiranta [2018-08-14 22:01:38 +0000 UTC]
I like ideas 1-5, but personally I would leave out the Tails romance.
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Lawman09 [2017-12-15 08:59:09 +0000 UTC]
I have my own head canon. Maybe you can tell me what you think. Since the interactions between Fiona and Scourge were never shown, it's never made clear how she suddenly turned evil.
Scourge used the Phantom Ruby to brainwash Fiona. Following Archie's writing style, he conveniently lost the gem before he could use it any further.
Scourge never really cared about Fiona or even valued her. He was just using her as a means to mess with Sonic.
That would explain the retcons in her origins. She believes that she was always a malicious villain in her past. She believes that she never had friends or comrades. And she forgot that she forgave Sonic for a huge misunderstanding.
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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to Lawman09 [2018-09-25 18:17:32 +0000 UTC]
That’s a nice way to incorporate the PR into Archie! Pretty nice.
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zzwolf [2017-08-27 08:04:46 +0000 UTC]
Are you planning to make one for Auto-Fiona?
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Nemesisprime91 [2017-08-26 20:53:17 +0000 UTC]
Not bad ideas. I actually thought of 9, but in my headcanon, Fiona does confess her past to Tails who waves it off and tells her she was trying to survive. This plants the seeds of affection in her heart.
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coyam99 [2017-06-15 00:08:21 +0000 UTC]
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Aurekai In reply to coyam99 [2018-05-13 19:40:46 +0000 UTC]
I know this post is from last year but I just had to say I can't agree more with the hidden information thing. There are subtle nods at the fact what we see isn't necessarily what is truth with Fiona. Like one of the author's notes (can't remember the issue) states that Scourge 'tried' to flirt with her implying failure.
Then there's her bursting into tears during the FFHQ invasion when Sonic grills her on loyalty.
Personally, I always saw it as Scourge framed Fiona with the help of Sleuth (They never give us ANY details as to what she has 'done') and her interactions with Amy set her path. Given how Sonic had 'backed off' of the relationship, it was a sore subject for Fiona so when Amy swooped in with her acusations (and her hammer), Fiona decided to get snippy, which is perfectly understandable. It's not till Sonic reveals himself that Fiona realizes that what she said has dug her a metaphorical hole. (Side note, you can see in the comic that Scourge 'shows up' before Fiona starts 'sweet talking' about him. just look at Tails and Fiona looking into the distance during her chat with sonic.) I figured she realized living the lie was easier than explaining the truth (the whole 'Truth is stranger' thing).
At any rate, I've gone a bit long winded and I apologize for that. For a 'kids comic' there is a great deal of subtlety to be explored and we all may never have the truth we seek.
P.S. I havn't read them yet coyam99 but I will definitely give your stories a try.
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coyam99 In reply to Aurekai [2018-05-13 20:38:52 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
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thomasharrisonfoxtf [2017-05-04 17:54:42 +0000 UTC]
I love the idea of Fiona beaing a double agent
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JaredtheFox92 [2016-12-02 22:11:25 +0000 UTC]
I think due to legal constraints she isn't coming back, but a big 'comeback' method I could see is simply the Genesis Wave. Since she isn't Moebian, but a primal Mobian she could have been re-written in the timeline to have never met Scourge.
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Quinstiff [2015-11-17 03:41:35 +0000 UTC]
These all sound like good ideas. If you don't mind, I have an even further suggestion for her eventual redemption:
How about introducing a new character in her redemption story? Only this character will act as a much darker mirror to her:
-He too is a traitor, however, he's a much bigger traitor than Fiona. He betrays the Freedom Fighters similar to how Fiona did, only ten times worse!
-He somehow and for some really good reason betrayed the Freedom Fighters, and all of Mobius, in the worst way possible!
-Whereas Fiona only weakened Sonic and Tails's friendship for a short time, this other guy DESTROYED it! Heck, who knows? Maybe he even manipulated Sonic to the Dark Side!
-This OC would be someone Sally and her family trusted for a long time, not knowing of his true nature.
-Their actions would be comparable to each other. Whereas Fiona's actions, for some time, can be forgiven, his is irredeemable!
-Fiona Fox's reasons for betrayal were just out of misguided sense of love and adventure with scourge. My OC's...well, pretty nihilistic and narcissistic. Not to mention, whereas Fiona realizes the error of her ways, OC is fully of his actions!
This way, the audience can truly sympathize with Fiona even more! Maybe even root for her! That way, Fiona would become the hero of her story! I believe that would make an awesome redemption story!
What do you think?
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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to Quinstiff [2017-01-01 02:46:48 +0000 UTC]
Yes, YES! I could see Sol from the Fleetway Comics filling that role. stc.wikia.com/wiki/Sol_Furic Just look at him! Doesn't he scream "I'll blow my former friends the FUCK up!"
But your new character's pretty cool, too.
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Kooloowarrior [2014-08-21 07:52:30 +0000 UTC]
I think Fiona should stay "quote" "unquote" bad but only as some people veiw Shadow as bad. You know? Some good believable turnarounds here I like it. Dialogue could use a bit of work but here that's what practice if for. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they could've worked a little harder on Fiona's Good persona instead of saying she's not a part of the original ten or so let's make her bad. If you wanna see a good fiction with an unwilling "bad" Fiona look up Resistance by Miles Depth on Fanfiction dot net. It's pretty good. A Fi/les story
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Robthe1st [2013-09-21 05:51:19 +0000 UTC]
I don't think Fiona should become a good guy again... because the way she's been acting that way... it works for her. Besides, the fans of the comics really like her as a villain and it fits her well-written. Just out the polls about Fiona Fox:
www.fanpop.com/clubs/fiona-fox…
and another one:
bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic…
and another one (This poll doesn't show so for members only):
sonicsatam.com/forums/index.ph…
I'm sorry... but it's better if Fiona stay as bad-@$$ ... I'm sure she's good inside.. if she still has it.
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KivaTheDCWizard In reply to Robthe1st [2013-09-21 07:52:38 +0000 UTC]
I don't give a rat's ass about those polls! Her heelturn was still a very horrible piece of writing, there are other ways to make a character badass without having her or him turn into a villain!
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Robthe1st In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2013-09-21 18:11:27 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm sorry... but that's what the fans wanted. Just saying.
Back then, I also want Fiona to be good.. but since her popularity seems to be growing after she turn heel.. fans can't stop loving her. And if I were the head writer of the Archie Comics: I'd would had to do the right thing to make this character as a come back: To make she as she truly is before. And making her as a good guy as she was back then.. didn't seem to be right, unless she's doesn't do anything and not help the freedom fighters.
BTW, she may be a villain.. But, she's more neutral like Rouge and Shadow. She doesn't care about the Freedom Fighters or Dr. Eggman or anyone else... but for her, her team, and Scourge to someday rule their own world.
Maybe she will become good... it depends on the fans. Also, I have my own story of how Fiona will might become good (Maybe..) I'll send you a pm sometime
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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to Robthe1st [2017-04-09 01:46:23 +0000 UTC]
Well then if she turned traitor, I would have liked to seen more. We did get 2, but Duck bill Platypus should have betrayed them for real.
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JasonPictures [2013-02-04 02:17:13 +0000 UTC]
Nice of you to reupload Sonic artwork.
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cartoonking1 [2012-12-29 04:49:23 +0000 UTC]
Pardon me for saying this but these ways seem a tad cliche to me.
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TCH2 [2012-12-21 13:29:33 +0000 UTC]
I understand why you are upset about Fiona turning traitor and hurting Tails, but she did say, before Ian started writing, that she wasn't into Tails simply because he was 11 and she was 17. Also, she had a dark past and Scourge offered the chance to have no responsibilities.
I'm not trying to upset you; I'm just pointing out the facts about Fiona.
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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to TCH2 [2017-01-01 07:28:05 +0000 UTC]
It would have been cool if Ray and Mighty also went evil.
That was the problem, her being singled out.
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KivaTheDCWizard In reply to TCH2 [2012-12-21 15:43:26 +0000 UTC]
I know that, but it's how the execution of her betrayal was handled. In the end, it was all bad writing anyway.
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TCH2 In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2012-12-21 15:52:14 +0000 UTC]
Is that because it was completely unexpected?
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KivaTheDCWizard In reply to TCH2 [2012-12-21 15:56:08 +0000 UTC]
There was no buildup to it, it came out of nowhere, and there was no reason for doing so! Ian didn't know how to write her so he made her the exact opposite: a bitch! Fiona had forgiven sonic, she was a freedom fighter, she had no reason to give that up. And while scourge mentioned hitting on her when disguised as sonic, we never actually see it happen! So in short...IT HAD NO REASON TO BE! Ian did because he could. Continuity? What is that?
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TCH2 In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2012-12-21 16:23:27 +0000 UTC]
Ah, I know what you mean.
But trust me; issue 134 had absolutely no reason to be written and to me, it was the worst issue of all. Karl Bollers really screwed up with the reason. He brought Sonic and Sally together in #123, building up fans' hopes so far and then, just 11 issues later, he smashed their hopes to pieces in a single stroke! WHAT WAS HE THINKING?! What was the point?
I mean, the issue is all happy and cheery throughout most of it and fools people into thinking it will end really well, and it all blows up in your face!
Sally was so OOC in that issue, she's practically a different person! It's worst than Fiona because she's supposed to be kind, understanding and loving, especially towards Sonic. Now I know it was all really hard for her, but Bollers had no reason to show her like that at all!
Just saying.
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KivaTheDCWizard In reply to TCH2 [2012-12-21 17:29:51 +0000 UTC]
I really dislike that issue too. It's also why Sally got so much undeserved hatred. The writers are to blame.
But what Ian Flynn did was pretty bad too. The reason I bash on Ian so much is because that was only the tip of the iceberg of crappy comics he has written. And he is still on the comic to this day! Why hasn't he been kicked out already?
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jaegersty In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2015-08-31 02:11:42 +0000 UTC]
there are multiple reasons as to why the comics pull shit like that. one "SEGA will not allow any SEGA owned character to have a meaningful relationship with any non sega canon character, because lets face it, sonic games were made for kids, and the old timer japanese folks, aka the guys that own these companies think that love isnt something apropraite for children." two "many characters cant be used for the comics anymore simply because the current writers dont hold the copyrights to them, because a previous writer made them and will not allow the usage of that character" three "Ian flynn apparently wrote the fan comic "other-M" which shows how he likes to write his stories, gritty and chock full of kick-the-puppy-so-far-up-the-ass-you-lose-your-shoe-moments that he just cant write the characters the way they were meant to be. he instead decides he doesnt give a shit about previously cemented canon and just writes the character OOC to do shit that is completely unlike them so he can make the comics as close to his fan comic as he can possibly make them. if sally isnt de-roboticized then how will she commision rotor to build NICOLE in the future to be sent back, and a whole slew of other anomalies that come with his writing, im sorry that im ranting, but archie needs to get rid of flynn before sega feels like they need to intervene again, and fuck everything up even worse.
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TCH2 In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2012-12-21 20:49:08 +0000 UTC]
Exactly! People should be angry at Karl Bollers, not Sally.
The reason Ian hasn't been kicked out is because there are more fans of the comics than there are of you bashers. He's the writer; he gives you Sonic. I think he's a great writer; one of the best, in fact!
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KivaTheDCWizard In reply to TCH2 [2012-12-21 21:26:07 +0000 UTC]
I admit he has some good ideas, but there are things that i just can't forgive...
You already know about Fiona's heelturn which is awfully handled...
Mecha Sally...I don't think roboticizing sally was a bad plotpoint. The fact she's modified means the equivalent of being chopped up as a christmas turkey, having basically some organs removed in favor of some other parts...and she has achieved little! The original mecha sally managed to capture the freedom fighters in one issue, what has mecha sally achieved now in over ten issues? The thought that Ian, who claims to be a fan, allows Sally to get mutilated like that is disturbing!
Making all of the city turn against nicole...who wasn't in control of her actions! I mean sonic was roboticized at one point, and each freedom fighter at least brainwashed or so once and no one blames them! The fact Mina mongoose was such a hypocrite through it all doesn't help either.
The fact that they accepted Ixis naugus as a king...are these people that dumb? Ixis is worse then Eggman!
Reminds me...nicole is a supercomputer from the future, she shouldn't be vulnerable to magitek! even if not, the heroes would be smart enough to make her immune to it after meeting the iron queen the first time! And Nicole makes power rings, she could have easily defended herself!
And espio would never betray his friends, not one bit, not even when his clan is involved!
How can you talk those good?
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TCH2 In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2012-12-21 21:35:35 +0000 UTC]
Mina did apologize to Nicole, didn't she? She never meant for the people to turn on Nicole; only encourage them to stand for themselves. Naugus ruined that, though, with his magic.
I agree that the people were dumb to trust Naugus, but I had a feeling they'd soon change their minds.
I can't explain why Nicole wasn't immune, but maybe she forgot how to defend herself.
As for Sally, whether she's achieved much or not, she's still a cool person to fight.
Ian might not be perfect, but I go with what he does, as long as it's not too bad.
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KivaTheDCWizard In reply to TCH2 [2012-12-21 21:45:43 +0000 UTC]
I give him that, he tries to fix the mess now...but it's a mess he shouldn't have made in teh first place. Ian wrote some decent arcs...but the bad outweigh the good to me...
I respect your opinion, but nothing you will say will convince me otherwise. I suggest we stop going on like this or we'll get nowhere, cause we both know where this will head. An endless stream of comments.
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TCH2 In reply to KivaTheDCWizard [2012-12-21 21:51:07 +0000 UTC]
Right. If you don't like Ian, fine. I like Ian Flynn's writing; you don't. Let's leave it at that, okay?
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FusionStorm [2012-12-21 03:40:52 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, if we do see Fiona get betrayed by Scourge and leave his side in the future (which seems likely), I think it would be too sudden to have her go straight back to the Freedom Fighters and get all cozy with Tails. I think she would not want to be associated with Scourge anymore, but she would be unable to face Sonic, Sally and company again after what a dirt bag she's been ever since her transition from good to bad.
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ToaArcan In reply to FusionStorm [2013-06-25 17:05:26 +0000 UTC]
As I've said in the past, bring her back to the light side in her own universe arc, but don't immediately drop her back in with the Knothole gang. Have that come at a later point when their paths cross.
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