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I'm constantly upset over Homura Akemi.Related content
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*Sigh* Everyone........... Everyone is upset at her..... I also don't know what to say. Considering ALL (and i mean all) of her suffering is actually understandable why she did that, after all, although she became the Devil (most people now hate her.... mental health has gone down... Now she has to "fight" against Madokami and Sayaka....) she only does this for Madoka's sake, she only want her to be happy, after all, wouldn't Homura do "anything for her"?
(I'm going to admit that this picture represents many things, amazing 
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(Sorry this reply is pretty late, I have a lot of thoughts on Homura's character and I have a hard time putting them into words haha)
Yeah it's interesting that a lot of people seem to think that her character development in Rebellion was just an out of nowhere turn to IRREDEEMABLY EVIL when, in my opinion at least, it's both in character and pretty understandable. I think one of the really interesting things about Homura and her wish is that even from the very beginning it was a somewhat selfish? wish? Because even though she made her wish to protect Madoka she didn't really consider Madoka's own feelings. That worked out fine for the earlier cycles since Madoka was really just trying to survive too, but when Madoka gains the resolve to sacrifice herself for the greater good she becomes the greatest threat to HERSELF in Homura's eyes. With that mentality combined with the stress of constant time loops making Homura more and more desperate it actually makes sense that she'd do anything to stop any threat to Madoka, even if it is Madoka herself. Ughh that turned into a bit of a ramble, sorry. I just love Homura so much, she's such an interesting character! ;v;
And thank you! I have so many thoughts about that movie, I really tried to capture them as best as I could. ^^
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(Sorry this reply is late also, i didn't have enough time ^^U)
That's indeed true, Homura only wants to protect Madoka, even if she has to fight her someday in order to do so, and she knows she'll have to (Will Madoka fight "Homura-chan" at her fullest? I don't know, but i would like to). Homura has been my favorite character since I saw the series, but with that in Rebellion........ Well, i saw in a page that "While in her demon form, Homura has the same powers as Godoka but has lost much of her sanity", plus, she used to be a cute and sweet girl, and now turning into the Devil? And she thinks that it's the better in order to protect Madoka, even if she doesn't want to be protected. The main fact of this was in the Lily Garden ( i think) that an amnesic Madoka told Homura that she would never do the sacrifice that she ACTUALLY did, making Homura think that Madoka doesn't want to be a God, and she said to herself: "Madoka is all alone and sad being a God, i'll take her from the Heaven and take all of her suffering, and the she would be happy"................. Is bad, i know, but we also have to understand her.
(No problem )
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It'll definitely be interesting to see if they do come to the point where they have a full-out fight... I can't imagine that Madoka would want that to happen either. (And well, even after everything she's done a part of me still hopes that Homura can be redeemed somehow, I just feel so bad for her) She's my favorite character as well, and I definitely think her devotion to Madoka is well-intentioned too, she's just reached the breaking point where she's willing to sacrifice anything or anyone to protect Madoka. But still I agree that it's understandable, with the kind of suffering she went through with all the time loops it's really amazing that she managed to stay so hopeful for so long. I really just hope that somehow Homura can eventually be happy, she of all characters deserves that. ;;
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Agreed ;_; , we all want a happy ending between the characters (something that will probably never happen) .
.............................. We must stop waiting weeks to answer each other .-.
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PMMM is probably the single worst thing to hope for a happy ending for too. Which is part of the reason I like it, because I'm a sucker for tragedy but at the same time I just feel so bad for the characters. ;;
Argh yeah sorry I have a bad habit of forgetting to check da for ages at a time. OTL
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Apparently in Japanese flower language, red spider lilies signify lost memories -- perhaps representing Homura's desperation to keep Madoka clueless about her true nature? Also, they're a common flower offered at funerals. Oh, Rebellion, why do you tear me apart so?! ;-;
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ARGH just when I think I've been sad about everything possible when it comes to pmmm there's something new to be to emotionally destroy me... I'm never going to stop being upset about this series. ;;
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I seem to love Homura no matter how bad her life choices are haha. (Although I have a weakness for morally unsound characters and Homucifer definitely fits into that category so I guess it's not really surprising)
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Part of me hopes that somehow Madoka and the rest of the girls will get her to come to her senses and set thing's right. (I know that is wishful thinking but like Madoka said: "If someone says it's wrong to Hope, I will tell them that they're wrong every time. I could tell them countless times.") Still you did a very good job capturing the tragedy of these two characters.
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That would be the ideal for me too, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen at this point. I guess the constant timeline resetting fucked her up too badly. ;;
Thanks! Drawing sad moments is one of my favorite things. <33
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Well the movie was going to have a conclusive happier end originally before they decided to go with the one that we got so they could make a sequel so maybe we will finally get that happy ending that we (and the girls) deserve. 
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Maaaaybe but I don't want to get my hopes up, it is the Urobutcher after all. OTL
Ahh I'm glad that came across! I was going for a weird combination of blissful but also hurt/tired/...something I dunno too many combinations of emotions. Yeah, I think even despite all the horrible things she's done now she's not EVIL per see, she's just been trying to keep Madoka safe so long that I think she's lost track of what that really means. Ughh I love Homura so much, she's such an interesting character. ;;
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True, true...
He did say that even he thinks that he's too hard on the girls so make of that what you will :shug: I heard rumors that he would like and try to make Madoka his first happy ending so I still hold of some slither of hope...
You are quite talented
But I'll give you something happy to enjoy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp08D7…
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Oh yeah I remember reading at one point that he said he felt bad for bullying Sayaka. xD I really hope he does decide to end on a happier note, I'm just scared of getting my hopes up and then having them crushed. OTL
I haven't, unfortunately I didn't get to watch any tv as a kid. But that sounds a lot like how I interpret her character! I definitely don't think she's as heartless as she seems, it seems that she just feels like no matter what she does she can't save everyone, so she's willing to make the other girls suffer for what she believes is the best outcome. Or something. And yeah, she's definitely punishing herself, the amount of symbolism of her witch that points to self-hatred is painful. ;;
Ahh thank goodness for that game, it's a tiny tiny sliver of happiness in the horrible suffering that is the madoka series. xD
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I feel the same way, in fact I think that most fans feel like that. XP
If you ever have the chance I would suggest checking it out for yourself, it's one of the great cartoon's of the 90's 
I know right? Everyone made it! They were all friends and to top it all off their Hope managed to out way the despair energy that is needed for saving the universe! This ending is very hard to get but well worth it! 
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Being a pmmm fan is suffering. OTL
I'll add it to my to watch list! I always love when a series gives more death to the villains than just "evil and wants to kill people", or at least gives some kind of reason for why they're that way.
An ending where everyone is alive and happy is basically the ultimate fanservice when it comes to pmmm. xD
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True that.
Well then I am sure that you'll enjoy this show.
Dam strait it is! And here have some more joy www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vr-qt…
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I get a strong "No! except yes!" vibe from this
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Yeah I have a certain weakness for really twisted ships.
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They will be together for evurrrrr!
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Whether Madoka wants to be or not.
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I really need to see this movie to see how Homucifer came to be. (And probably
cry for weeks on how it ended because i've heard that it even made Urobutcher
sad.) I love the placement of the Higanbanas (not sure what they're called in English)
especially since it goes so well with Homura constantly resetting timelines. Since
the flower language meaning is forgotten memories and abandonment.
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I don't think it made me quite as sad as the series itself, but the movie was definitely shocking. Even knowing a fair amount of spoilers going into it there were still plenty of of twists that I wasn't expecting at all.
I've always called them spider lillies but I think they're called different things in different places. They're my favorite flower though so it was really neat to see Homura associated with them! I didn't know about the flower language, but now I can definitely see why they chose to make those her flower.
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My little sister's friend watched it and she was throwing a tantrum for
a week. I really love how they're able to bring about so many different emotions
for people with their series. I see that Charlotte is in it and has a human form now
too?
Ah yes! That's what they are in English. They're my favourites too, especially since it's
got such heavy meanings.
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I think a tantrum is probably a reasonable reaction to that movie. xD
There aren't a whole lot of series that I've gotten as invested in as I did with pmmm, the characters are just all so interesting! It's kind of amazing how they managed to pack so much emotion into just twelve episodes.
She's not in human form for very much of the movie but yup! She's really cute, and her relationship with Mami is adorable. ;w;
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It really is, and sometimes I forget it was that short because they did so
well establishing the world and the characters. I was wondering about whether
or not she would be in human form the whole time or not, thank you for clearing
that up eheheh! I really can't wait to watch it soon!
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Nice drawing! But.... coughcoughhandsaretoobigcoughcough...
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All the better to kidnap goddesses with my dear.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
-shoots demon homu down- holy cow.... OH COW I FORGOT THAT SHES IMMORTALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!
-uses goddess power and kills homu-
YEAY
WOOOT THATS WHAT YA GET FOR ALMOST KILLING MADOKA
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s-s-s-s--s-s-s-sss-s--s-s--spoiler for 3rd movie? D:
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It's not a direct spoiler of anything exactly, butyeah definitely spoilers for the fact that bad things happen in that movie. Q_Q
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aaah I see.
Of course Madoka wouldn't have a good ending o-o
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Yeah, I definitely wasn't expecting a happy ending, but I also wasn't expecting the level of messed up it got to. ;-;
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Thanks! It was interesting seeing a really different side of Homura in the movie, so I wanted to try drawing that. ^o^
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Nice illustration for a bad movie - yes, I'm spreading my hatred towards "Rebelion" everywhere I go...
All though whole "Rebelion" doesn't make a lot of sense - especially Kyubey's out of character behaviour: he never kidnaped and experimented on people before! -, but the main thing that make me hate this movie is the simple fact that "Rebellion" made TV series completely meaningless: every character arc, every positive message, everything what characters achieved, all of this goes down the drain. Now TV series is completely insignificant... Now TV series "Madoka" is nothing more than big waste of time: all character arcs, character development and stories are now completely meaningless. Sayaka Miki and her tragedy – irrelevant, since she is alive and well again, Madoka’s growing up – pointless, snice she is just a kid again, Homura arc – meaningless, since she is again a creepy stocker. So, we are going back to square one. How is this a good thing?
And original ending was bittersweet - Madoka lost everyone she loved, and she was burdened with responsibility of saving Magical Girls for the rest of time, like Mami said: "dying would be a kinder fate". Meanwhile all those MG's were still deceived by Kyubey, and they still died young - only saving grace, was that they were not turned into a monsters. Sayaka was still dead and Homura was alone, without person she loved the most, maybe with a glimmer of hope, that she will be someday reunited with Madoka - but only after death. And ending statement from Homura wasn't overly optimistic: world wasn't worth saving; you can't change the world, because you can't change human nature, that's why monsters from the Id - Witches or Wraiths - will always be there. Certainly it wasn't happily ever after ending - only optimistic thing about it was the fact that Madoka's sacrifice wasn't meaningless: she did save souls of those MG's. Well, now all of this is out the window.
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Hmmm well I sort of agree and disagree with you.
On Kyubey's behavior you're right in the sense that he didn't do any of that in the series, but I don't think it's entirely out of character. Madoka's wish relied unfortunately on the idea that Kyubey was a moral character, when throughout the series it's proven that he isn't. I'd assume that incubators originally HAD to experiment on humans in order to create magical girls, so I think it's more of history repeating itself due to the incubator's curious/morally questionable nature.
As for the deconstruction of the theme I DO agree with you. As a final ending to the series the anime is definitely superior (I LOVE the anime ending), and if the series permanently ends in it's current state with Homura having basically nullified all the wishes I think I'd choose to disregard the movie as canon haha. But from what I hear there are still plans for continuing it, and from the last few minutes of the movie (with Madoka almost becoming a goddess again) it doesn't seem like Homura is going to be able to keep the current reality stable for very long. I may be being to optimistic but I'm going to wait and see for a while I think.
The thing that I really loved about the movie though was the character development though. Starting out with Sayaka since she's the positive example here... I hated Sayaka in the anime. I loved her for the first few episodes but after she became a magical girl and just steadily started treating Madoka worse and worse I couldn't stand her. Not saying she was a badly written character, in fact she was extremely well thought-out, but we really only got to see the worst side of her. The movie did a really great job of balancing her out again. One of my favorite details of the movie was Sayaka's discussion with Homura on the identity of the witch. Sayaka NEVER got along particularly well with Homura, even in the best timelines but she is still adamant that the witch shouldn't be blamed for everything that's happening. Despite all her grievances with Homura she was trying her best to keep her from suffering. (I talk about that scene a lot but GOSH I just love it)
On the opposite side Homura's character development in the movie is definitely not positive, but I think that it's both intriguing and actually pretty realistic. Homura is an odd character in that she starts out being a definite antagonist, willing to sacrifice others, no sympathy for anyone but Madoka. Then we get a look into her past and she becomes sympathetic because WOW she has been through some shit, but the thing is those negative traits don't really change, they get overlooked because they are (to some extent) understandable/justified. And they manifest in the worst way possible at the end of the movie. At first it seemed contradictory to me for her to go against Madoka since she obviously loves her. But the thing is, Homura loves Madoka a lot yes, but she doesn't actually CARE about what Madoka wants. She made her wish to save Madoka and fought to protect her, but her goal was always to keep Madoka safe rather than to actually make her happy. So for her Madoka sacrificing herself is no different than Madoka becoming a witch or being killed by Walpurgis Night. It's definitely twisted, but I think it's a fair continuation of her character and one that isn't seen very often. (Especially the source of evil being 'love')
Sooo I guess basically, yeah I don't like where the story is at the moment but I thought a lot of character development was really interesting and hopefully there will be further plot to fix that problem. ><
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Sounds like the Uroubutcher at work again. The ending of the original series seemed too positive. Though to be honest the studio meddled.
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Oh yes, he definitely removed any chance of a happy ending with the movie. Although I actually really liked the ending of the series, sometimes I think a bittersweet ending has more of an emotional impact than pure tragedy. Still loved the movie though, but then I'm a sucker for protagonists coming completely unhinged.
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Well, the subline has always been tragic. Eventually Madoka's memories and powers will come back together and then she'll have to put Homura down. Though storywise if it hadn't been for the incubators using Homura as bait, things probably would have been okay.
Though forever is a long time to be alone. And Homura was initially human. And she's been driven by human emotions and is still being driven by the same emotions. Now she's just giving in.
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