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kleinmeli — Making of Losing Myself
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A making of...you know how it works
here is the finished drawing [link]
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oh, and your avatar. i almost thought it was a real bug crawling on my screen -_-
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I use the pads for smearing work and the post its have a rough surface, so I can flatten the tip of my pencils on it qicker as on normal paper
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This is bery interesting 
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You insane person!! You are too good!!
I think I'm gonna cry...
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Nope, but something of this artwork's quality might be worth alot of money, so is the money worth the pain? Also, you got alot of satisfaction for this piece. Is that worth the pain? In addition, I think you raised you own bar for what you are capable of drawing with this work. Is that worth the pain? I think that when it all comes down to it, it is. It's all worth the pain.
That, and you're hopelessly addicted to art, so it's not like you're going to stop for any silly old pain.
...and cinnamon. You're hopelessly addicted to cinnamon, too, But, there's help-groups for that kind of thing.
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Yeah I know...its worth the pain.
But you know, when I see some Daily Deviations I think I have still a lot to learn and it takes some wind out of my energie 
I'm always compairing my work to others and find my stuff always lacking in many ways...its rather frustrating, but you are right about the addicted stuff...I love art and will not stop drawing.
So ha pain!
I will live with you!
...help groups...really? 
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Well, to be honest, I'd say this most recent piece is Daily Deviations material. If I had the power, I'd suggest it, but I don't know how.
... and yeah. At least in America, there's help groups for everything. For eating glue, random cold-sweats, even for people who are afraid of long words! (that particular phobia, by the way, is called "hippopotomontrosesquippedaliophobia". How wierd is that?)
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You think so? Nahhh, but thanks for saying that 
But I’m happy with the comments I get and conversations like you and I have now 
I don’t know if we have so many “helping” groups in Germany…I never bothered to look at it. A cinnamon addiction is nothing soooooooo bad, is it? I can live with it.
And just to tell you…after the 8 hours sleep, my back is okay again
(bought the extended “Underworld” DVD…yeahhh)
Did one of your friends know now what “Hellboy” says by the way...I totally forgot about that…I’m getting old!
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They haven't revisited the movie yet, but I haven't forgot about it! Actually, the person who has the movie is moving in RIGHT NEXT DOOR to my apartment, so I'll be able to do that movie recon for you!
...and on that note, I suggest the movie "Equilibrium". If you liked Hellboy, and UNderworld, you'll enjoy "Equilibrium" too! The action scenes are so cool, and I love the setting... it's kind of like... have you ever read "1984"?
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Thanks for watching Hellboy agein
And ha!
Equilibrium is one of my favorite movie...saw it in England the first time and just loved the movie
I'm so happy that he will be the next Batman!
And thanks god I found someone who knows good movies
(Underworld was great by the way)
Tell me about you favorite movies
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Well, I really love equilibrium... after I saw it the first time, I almost re-wrote the combat rules for my RPGs! I also greatly enjoyed Donnie Darko, and I get enormous satisfaction out of showing other people the movie, and finding they love it, too. I call it "Spreading the Gospel of Darko." That movie is a real mind-screwer. The first Matrix was groundbreaking in story and style, but the rest of the trilogy could have been done way better. By me. I also love the movie that me and my film-bound friends made over the summer, "Elevator," which I wrote, acted, and did the lighting for. (it should be ready for release by the beginning of next year!) Underworld, I agree, was great, and the "I just cut off your face" scene in that movie was better than Equilibrium's.
But, I'm not just limited to dark action. I love "Monty Python and the Holy Grail". I also suggest you see "Army of Darkness," even though it's not quite one of my favorites. It's just got so many great one-liners, and canned quotes that you can slip into conversation, to test your "movie-savvy" friends.
Otehr movies I would rank really up there: "O Brother Where Art Thou?" and "Ocean's Eleven" (George Clooney rocks), "Swordfish", because I love that characters, "Bow-finger", for it's poo taste and hilarious scenes.
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Just to say it again…thanks god someone who likes and knows the same movies as I do.
It’s just that people call me crazy or freaky for watching/knowing so many movies. (I have over 500 movies at home 
And they kind of make fun of me for knowing every little detail of the movies I saw…even years later.
It’s not my fault if my brain remembers movie stuff and not…”important” things.
Anyway…back to the discussion
You are so right…”Donnie Darko” is a gorgeous movie, although half of my friend didn’t understand it 
The movies I saw the most so far are “Dogma” (I’m so in love with Alan Rickman…this man is great!) “Sleepy Hollow”, “8mm” …ahhh there are so many. I adore Star Wars (The old one…not the crappy new films!)
“One Hour Photo” was great as where “Seven” and “Unbreakable”…Did you saw “Wilde” The Oscar Wild biography? This on is really good!
I watched all Comic film versions, but they are seldom as good as the comics. “X-Men” was great, “Spiderman”and “Hellboy”,too…”Hulk” and “Dare Devile” where terrible and I refused to watch “Catwoman”
I’m babbling aren’t I?
Sorry 
I have seen so many movies I don’t know what to tell your first 
Jesus…this will be an endless list, so I will stop here
And tell me when I can watch your movie…would like to see it
P.S. Which are the worst movies you ever saw? My worst movie experience was “28 days later” That was the worst horror movie I ever witness so far. We went to see it in England, after they made so much fuss about it on Brit TV (the biggest horror movie in years, you will quiver with fear, your stomach will turn and so on) I really considered to leave the cinema if I hadn’t paid 5.60 pound for it
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Oh... worst movie I ever saw...
Well, the worst movie I DIDN'T see was the "Blair Witch Project". Just the previews made me motion-sick.
The worst movie I've ever seen... I don't know if it's the worst, but I really didn't like alot of things about "Queen of the Damned". IT's not really a bad movie, but the effects they had for the vampire's super-human speed looked really hokey, like the stuff they do on TV. It really detracted from the action scenes. There were some really good redeeming things, like the music, which ROCKED, and a few scenes which I think were really well done. I dunno. Not a bad movie, just one that's not my favorite. I'm just grasping at anything right now...
...worst movie ever...
"Road to Perdition" was just one of those movies you only need to see once. It left me feeling so empty, and frustrated. Not perticularly bad, until the end. Good production values, good acting (Tom Hanks is my favorite actor), BAD closure. (on the lines of 1930's movies, "Untouchables was REALLY good. Sean Connery is awesome.)
Ah. I have it now... "La Chubacabra". It's a movie my friend got at a yardsale half a year ago... it had a decent CD case, and cover, and it had an okay summary on the back. It was supposedly a chilling horror movie about the mexican version of a demon monster, the Chubacabra... It's one of those myths of the hispanic people, and everybody knows it. Well, in short... it looked like it was made by a guy with a camcorder, with a VERY low budget, and... 
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Sorry it took me so long to answer…real life is a pain lately.
"Blair Witch Project" is one of the movies were I left the cinema after 30 minutes. This movie is so not what I call a “good” movie. It’s not even on the same continent as good. It’s a mystery to me why people love and adore that flick.
Well, I actually liked "Queen of the Damned"…not the movie, but the music. It’s incredible and actually my kind of music I hear all the time
I didn’t saw "Road to Perdition"…I love Tom hanks (can’t wait to see “Terminal”) but I just HATE Jude Law. Another part would be that I dislike that kind of film to be true, can’t say why, but I just don’t like them.
Another movie I really didn’t like is/was “Ned Kelly”…I just sat there and though wtf?
Its bad…so bad that I even zapped the movie and watched it in 34minutes
Do you have some Sci-Fi favourites?
Apart from Star Wars (ONLY the old one!!!) SW is without concurrence
I don’t see so much independent stuff, so I can’t really discuss quality or lack of it. I just saw little flick some students made at my University…so…I’m a “don’t know many independent movies” girl
Did you saw the new DreamWorks movie? The one with the little yellow fish and the shark Lenny? I have know clue what the movie is called in English, sorry
A lot of people told me they didn’t like the film…I though it was funny and all the little jokes about other movies were great, oh well…maybe the pain killers made the film enjoyable for me
Ahhhh there are so many movies…and so little time to write about it. I could talk hours about films, but sadly no one of my best friends likes movies as much as I do
And now I will drive around again...yeahh...*shoves some more pills down* 
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That new DreamWorks film is called "shark's tale", or "A shark's Tail", or something like that, with will smith as the voice actor... anyways, I haven't seen it, but like everyone's said, it's not supposed to be very good.
Or wait... forgot about Intenational Film lag. Are you talking about "Finding Nemo?" It's about the clown fish, and I think there's a shark in there called Lenny, And one called Bruce.
Anyways, my favorite Sci-Fi flicks? I'd of course have to rate Star Wars as the highest, but it's not the only one on my list. Alien was CLASSIC ( 
The Lord of the Rings trilogy counts as sci-fi, and those have the best production values of any movie EVER, and for that, they win my respect and admiration. Very well-made movies. In the fantasy department of Sci-fi movies, I am also looking forward to "The Wheel of Time" series, which will be coming out in the next few years... Ohh, I can't wait! I've even got some production connections with the future art-department, so i may even be able to be a part of it!
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Ahhh…you don’t believe how happy I’m to find something with the same film taste…that so good
“Sharks Tale” was okay…I could laugh a lot, you just can’t compare it to “Finding Nemo” The movies are so different, and “Nemo” has no Lenny
It has so many little things I appreciated a lot…and…oh well…see for yourself
I have to say I only watch Alien after one of my best friends told me so much about it
My dad watched all the old space movies with me, when I was little (he is a Sci-Fi Fan like me) And I like “Abyss” the most, but the Odyssey movie is great as well.
Pitch Black is one of my favourites (I like Vin Diesel…VERY much) The sequel is good, it has no story, but the effects and the different world are great. Wonderful design! And its so cute to see the excitement of Vin when he talks about the movie. Just like me when I buy a new comic
LotR is like Star Wars without concurrence. I love the movie…went to premiers and watched the part countless times
I’m not sure if I know "The Wheel of Time"…can have another name over here. Will look into it, and big books are good book, keeps me longer busy
Just want to know…do you know any German movies? Are the US showing some? We have 3 or 4 good ones
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I must say, I've seen a few foreign movies, and some I even liked (like "Amelie" from France, which is a wonderful movie, if you can stomach cute and artsy drama), but I have never seen a german movie. The closest I've seen is "Das Boot", a movie about a German U-boat, which I think is mostly from fact. A very good movie, that one. It's Dutch, I believe.
And personally, Germany doesn't have it so bad right now. You may be a little behind in the movies (I haven't seen it, but Alien v. Predator is, I am told, very good), but at least the rest of the world doesn't have a "little brother" issue with your country. America is a little too pushy to make me feel comfortable about my nationality outside my own nation. Europe is a very interesting place to be right now, I am learning. I forsee a future where Europe has unified, and as a whole, is much more powerful than America, militarily, and economically.
Oh, and when you read books, say, the Lord of the Rings, are you reading the original English versions, or the translated German?
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Mhh, I think “Das Bott” is a German movie…at least most of the actors are. It one of the most famous movies here, that went overseas and where actually watched by your people
“Amelie” is one of the only romantic flicks I like, but more the style of the movie. It’s rather different and the music is so fabulous! (I’m a OST whore…have hundreds of OST CD’s at home)
Otherwise I avoid romantic movies. I just can’t stand the happily ever after, everything is okay, just hug and kiss everybody stuff in that movies. My (female) friends get really frustrated with me sometimes, when we can’t find a film to watch together.
But well…a lot of people tell me I’m more boy than girl anyway
Well I don’t thing you would enjoy Germany either; sure I don’t want to live in the US at the moment. We have mean problems as well…but nobody looks at us like they look at the US. You won’t believe me how much they show here on TV about the election…somebody would think we can choose a president, too
After living in England for a year I have to say I would really like to live there again. I liked my work and loved the people! I’m a little bi English now!
It’s so different to Germany. You have to know, most people here (at least where I live) are rather…grumpy…you see seldom people smile or laugh in an “open” place.
For example…when a friend and I go into town or to a authority, we talk, laugh, make fun and smile a lot, consequences of that is that people turn up their noses, sneer at us or just shake their head in a “god are they annoying” kinda way.
People in Germany just don’t like each other. It’s properly the reason I dislike humans in general. I’m getting bitchy and bark out rather mean comments when I’m in public and people annoy me. So you see…every country has his down points.
Enough about that.
I read only the original Version...most of the translated German stuff is crap. I stopped reading German books 5 years ago and never regret it
I even tried to read a Russian book ages ago
Do you speak another language? England is ignorant to other languages…I only met 2 people who could speak more than English. It was Shocking to me!
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About our election, I've always wondered about that. It's cool to get an angle on your contry from somone else's. I bet you guys know more about what's going on here than most of us! IN fact... i bet if the Germans were allowed to vote for our president, you guys would have a higher voter turn-out, too!
I took two years of Spanish, which is becoming a fast-growing population here in america, but I stopped before the course got into the really hard-core work. :/ It is true that in America, and the other English speaking countries, next to nobody is bilingual. The thing is, we don't need a whole lot from directly from foreign countries' cultures. As you've said, we make our own movies, write our own books, put out our own entertainment... so there is no incentive to speak a language other than English. It's a really arrogant way to go through life, but hey, that's a Capitolistic Republic for you.
My sister, however, speaks Spanish quite well. She could actually go to a Spanish-speaking country, and survive. She will also be studying abroad in college, and she's headed to a German-speaking country. She'll be taking a crash-course in Germany for two weeks. She was considering going to England, but she opted out. I may go there myself, someday. Sounds like a nice place, and nobody really has a "Death to the English! 
And as for myself, I may not have a second language, but I do speak this one damn well, if I do say so myself, and I am an excellent writer as well. So, my mastery of this one language may make up for not having much diversity. I've always been impressed by multi-lingual people, though, and I'm sliently ashamed of my inability to speak more than one.
...and... 
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Jup…since a week the reports on your election is getting more and more
Come on, people who chose Bush, because his wife doesn’t say anything about politics and plays the simple house wife is even for American standards rather…dumbish :/
I’m curios who will win and to be true I’m not sure everything in that election in going right…I don’t think a computer controlled election is the safest way to do it in Florida. You just can say before…Bush wins. I wouldn’t trust it a bit.
How old do you have to be to choose in America?
We can choose with 16! No 16 year old teen knows ANYTHING about politics…me neither
I can understand when English speaking people say they don’t need another language. In Europe you have English in every school as a second language and can choose a third if you need or want. Most of the time it’s French.
I live in the old DDR, so we had to learn Russia…now it’s French and Spanish if you study at an university)
My Russian is rusty as hell...I can say may name, were I live and what I like 
And speaking your own language well is something good, you won’t believe how many young people here are disgraces for our language. If you talk to a “normal” 15 year old, you could smack him after every fifth word. Our people are getting dumber and dumber.
And to satisfy your curiosity at the end.
No dictionary is needed. I read English stuff like I would read German.
My relatives can’t understand that I don’t need to translate it even in my mind. Its hard to explain, but I just read and understand without thinking about it. Just like your read English.
Mind you, it wasn’t like that from the beginning, but after so many years of only reading English…”some” words stuck
And English is easy to learn…I think I would have more problems with German…I live here and don’t understand everything and don’t start with Russian
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That's awesome! ... about the thoughtless translating, I mean. I've always tried to envision something like that. Must be fun up there in your multi-cultured brain.
Here in America, they let you vote at the age of 18. This is good, because, like there, I just don't think 16 year olds know a thing about politics. I'm 17, and I don't even think I could make an educated decision. There's a few small interest groups who want younger teens to vote, but nobody listens to them, and most people don't even know they exist.
...and as for our voting population, well... Let's just say that individuals in America are smart, but when you group all of the individuals into a mob, they are collectively stupid. Democrats and Republicans hate each other for the same reasons, and both sides say the other is running a crooked campaign, while convincing themselves that their own candidate is pure and right. It's just... all wrong. Oh well.
About electronic voting, I too feel like it is a risky way of handling our election. I like paper ballots. If something went wrong, there was a physical master of the vote that you could check. With electronic voting, however... all it takes is a good hacker. Once data is deleted and replaced, it's like as if the real votes were never there. There's no way to check authenticity. That's scary. :/
You know... I'm not quite sure what form of government you guys have in Germany, as stupid as that must make me sound. We Americans are generally internationally ignorant, and I'm not up to the post-WWII era in my advanced European History class. You siad that German 16 year olds can vote... on what? Do you guys have a president, or elected representatives, or something?
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You will doubt I have a brain when I explain our politic system to you.
Okay…were do I start.
We are a democratic country. We elect a party which stands for the things we want. For example the SPD or CDU (They all use abbreviation).
Each party has a chairman/woman and at the moment everybody in Germany things the guys are idiots
They are separated in “left” or “right” parties.
Left parties normally stand for environment help, foreigner friendly and are a heity deity happily ever after parties (at least for me) They like to talk thinks happy after they happened.
The “right” parties are more…mhh…Germany orientated. They like to talk about pension, jobs…well money in general. The more extreme “right” parties are really foreigner hostile and think really Nazi like…its sad people voted for them. That’s a reason I’m ashamed to be a German!
But have one thing in common…they love to talk…and talk only .cries:
Okay…more informations.
You know that Germany has federal states just like the US, right?
Each state elects their own party and even then every city elects again…we are a big electing group, but only 30% go and actually vote for someone *LOL*
Every 4 years a BIG election decides who will become “Bundeskanzler” (Federal Chancellor)
At the moment is Gerhard Schröder…he is like our president. Then there are different men for each department, like military, education, environment and so on (just like in the US)
They are chosen by the party and not us…at least I think so.
I hope I got it right…at least the main point are okay…I think
I’m not so educated in politics. I don’t vote and apart from social studies I never showed interest in knowing more about it. It’s so complicated and at the end all parties fail at the task they promised people.
Wee…writing with you keeps my writing English healthy *lol*
The main difference is that we don’t have such a big, colourful show before elections. Sure, they plaster posters everywhere of stupid looking politician, but nothing near as big as what American president candidates do. I always ask myself what I could do with all the money spend on US coloured confetti o_O
I wouldn’t vote for someone just because Bon Jovi or Arnold speaks for them. (And I laugh myself stupid hearing Arnold speaking English…they synchronize his voice rather nice in movies and not with the Austrian accent
Sometimes I have the feeling that everything in America has to be a big Hollywood show.
I didn’t hear everything about what Bush or Kerry actually want…they make it their gaol to bring the other one in disgrace…sad really.
Ohhh well...they bring “Fahrenheit 911” on TV next Monday...maybe I will understand your system then
You take European History class, that’s cool. I loved history class myself, although in my last year everything we talked about was Hitler.
And now my head gives off smoke
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Thanks for the run-down on German politics! It's really interesting to see how things have developed in the after math of WWII and the occupation of Berlin and whatnot. What's really amazing is that it is so much like the American system, as for as the two party system, and what the parties stand for (although there's no undertones of Nazism over here :/ ).
As far as our own system of publicity and all... i can't say it's one of the things for which I am most proud, but, hey, it's America at its heart. We're all about show, and entertainment. Have you seen "Chicago?" Even though it was supposed to portray the 20s or something, the message is still quite applicable to today's America. "Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle" (one of the songs, it's a musical) sums this up, by basically saying that if you show people a good time, and tell them what they want to hear, you'll win their support, whether it's deserved or not. We're all about the Razzle Dazzle in America; our country's politics are one big show. And... Farenhiet 911... That's Razzle Dazzle, too, so just in case you actually were expecting to get a candid glimpse at American politics, it's a perfect example of left-wing propoganda.
European history is a very fun class for me. I have a very interesting teacher, because he always relates everything in class to something hapening in the world today. His favorite things to draw comparisons to are the war in Iraq, and President Bush, who are appealing targets to him. He, like most of America's teachers, is a democrat (The left party). My family is very Republican. Being able to get brainwashed by proponents of both parties at once has made me a very politically balanced guy, because I've heard all the positive and negative things about each of them.
Honestly, I don't care who wins the election on Tuesday... our country is still in dire straights, whether at home, or abroad.
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Nothing to thank me for…I’m not even sure I got everything right
The main thing that every country has it problems…as far as I see it on TV you are still stuck in all the terrorism stuff and we have big problems because our unemployment figure grows steadily (they are closing really big firms and more then 10 000 people lost their job in one week only…really sad) Well and all the stuff is getting far to expensive over here. Do you know that we have to pay 1.10$ for a litre of normal gasoline? So there are a lot of discussions and demonstrations lately.
I don’t know if they show you something about our problems on News TV, but far over 10 000 people went to demonstrate every week. We got a new earnings-related benefit program and a lot of people thing its garbage. It’s like the politician want to take money from people that have nothing to begin with and spare people that are richer than rich.
That’s one reason for me to consider moving back to England, you just can’t find a proper job around where I live. You are still at school, so you don’t have that problem yet
I didn’t see “Chicago" I have a big dislike for musical films
And I know that “Fahrenheit 911” is rather one sided and anti bush propaganda. But I think it will be interesting to watch…at least I think so. It was a big hit over here…they showed it at cinemas for over 2 months!
Most People here don’t tell you openly which party they support, You see it at the end, but nobody really wants to talk about it. It’s funny to see that every federal state votes so differently. In my state people hate “Die Grünen”. (“The Greens” they are like environment activists) They cost us a lot of money-bringing jobs (like big BMW or Porsche fabrics), because they would have built the fabrics on a field with 3 endangered fog species
In other states they are loved.
Complicated.
I would know who to vote here and wouldn’t know who I would choose as a president in America. I dislike Bush a lot, but I just can’t sympathy with Kerry.
If you want to know about Germany just ask
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Sure. When it's noon at Grenich mean time (spelling?) what time is it over there? I just want to know so I can figure out when you reply in American time.
I have one question for you, one that I thought of rather recently... I've heard you complain of how long it takes to release things in Germany, as far as movies go... Have you tried shopping online? I'm sure that as soon as an American movie comes out here, it goes up online the same day, at places like Amazon.com, and whatnot. If you buy online, you may be able to circumvent that four to six month waiting period, and be on the same movie-schedule as everyone else.
And it is nice to know how German politics turned out from you, becuase I doubt we'll get that far in our European history course. This is all pretty recent history, considering the course started in the midieval era.
so... you're 23, and a Graphic Designer (according to the lovely ID on your page!
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Sorry...the first part of the last comment went missing...so here you go *lol*
Mhh…I have no clue where you live, but if you are in L.A you would be 8 hours back. Its 6pm here it would be 10am in L.A…..I think
Jup, I tried shopping online and have some DVDs here already…but you have to know that ordering stuff from the US is rather….painfully…expensive. It’s easier to order stuff from the UK (faster and cheaper) but the movies come out there at the same time as here (mostly)
I order mostly at play.com and amazon.de
No problem…as I told you before, just ask me
Do you know that 30% of the Germans want the wall back? It’s scary!
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How does it work to be a Graphic Designer?
Well its doesn’t work at all
Its not the job I want to do…I love working with computers and I like drawing, but without a Diploma you won’t get much money and the chance to actually find a job in Germany is rather small. I liked working at the animation studio and I could still work there…without getting paid! Even if I like the job…”liking” doesn’t pay my bills.
So I’m searching a new job and to get some money I draw pictures and sell them.
At the moment I think about moving back to England and I will decide to go there at the end of the year. I just ant to work again…I’m reading 2-3 books each week and my brain just gets slower and slower.
To find a “good” job here is nearly impossible and they just announced today to cut 15 000 more jobs in the automobile industries. So in the last 3 weeks…over 40 000 people lost their job. Sad…Germany goes downhill faster and faster. We have over 4 million unemployed people at the moment.
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... and on Bowfinger, that's "POOR" taste, not "POO" taste. I wouldn't know anything about that.
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I should have made a picture of my floor/desk...full of paper, coffe mugs, sweets and pencils and dvds
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Yeah, that would have been a nice touch!
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Maybe I will do it tomorrow...*looks around her room*
It still looks like a little garbage dump, maybe I will put it online
The workplace of a crazy artist
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I look forward to it. My workplace isn't so much of a mess, but a clutter. I've got a huge art desk, but it's always covered in junk. Whenever I want to use it for anything artsy, I have to clear part of it off. Its not uncommon to see me huddled with my work on a tiny 1 foot by 1 foot clean spot, just big enough for a piece of paper! Talk about back pain...
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See thats one of the reasons I don't work on my desk...mostly because you don't see my deskt (Look at my webcam shot) But I think I really pulled something bad in my back in the last 5 hours...I can't lie down withjout screaming
So much for "art is worth the pain"
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