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Published: 2017-03-26 20:51:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 1098; Favourites: 46; Downloads: 0
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Description SU-22M4 Polish Air Force. Now she is a "bit" outdated combat plane but during the cold war it was a dangerous weapon. Officially Poland had never an atomic bomb, but some of SU pilots were trained to drop such bombs. 
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Comments: 15

DarkTailss [2017-07-17 07:13:09 +0000 UTC]

I love all the little fins and stuff protruding off this bird, definitely want to learn more about it

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Konrad22 In reply to DarkTailss [2017-08-20 09:22:04 +0000 UTC]

This is an old plane. The technology is outdated for the modern warfare, but looks good. Its wings can change angles (30-63 degrees). Its production began in 1984. She a light bomber. Su-22 was made to fly low (below radars) and fast to drop bombs and escape. She can carry anti-air missiles, but is not well prepared for a fighter role. 

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miirex [2017-03-27 08:13:09 +0000 UTC]

Trzeba mu życzyć spokojnego lotu  

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Konrad22 In reply to miirex [2017-03-27 19:24:44 +0000 UTC]

W końcu to już prawie emeryt, więc burzliwe przygody już powinny być poza nim.

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miirex In reply to Konrad22 [2017-03-28 13:45:05 +0000 UTC]

Właśnie , właśnie  

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hellbat [2017-03-27 07:18:28 +0000 UTC]

Very nice!

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Konrad22 In reply to hellbat [2017-03-27 07:59:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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hellbat In reply to Konrad22 [2017-03-27 15:10:25 +0000 UTC]

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Arthur330 [2017-03-26 21:38:32 +0000 UTC]

I wonder if light combat variant of M-346 will replace Su-22M4 of PAF completely.

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Konrad22 In reply to Arthur330 [2017-03-27 08:12:02 +0000 UTC]

I don't think so. The PAF was interested in buing old F-16 and upgrade it to a modern standard, but it appeard to be too expencive. It is most probable that PAF will buy new F-16. Some people talk about F-35, but the price is too high. We need about 50 planes.

The M-346 program has got some problems. Poland received first two planes, but the weapon simulators does not work properly. The planes are waiting for an upgrade. The PAF considered combat variant of M-346, but it was not the best choice (very limited range of weapons and low capacity). Now, when the problems with trainers occur, the chances for combat version of M-346 are much lower.

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Arthur330 In reply to Konrad22 [2017-03-27 14:07:25 +0000 UTC]

I wonder if this is the reason why Raytheon withdrew contract of M-346 for T-X program this January. As far as I know, Singapore is the first country to receive the full batch of M-346 completely and last year Israel got their full batch to replace TA-4s. However, I don't know if they were interested in the weapon simulators because Singapore received their batches before M-346 officially entered service in Italy.

Another trainer, T-50 Golden Eagle was another competitor for PAF's trainer program. While T-50 is faster and more maneuverable than M-346, it lacked refueling probe (while T-50A for T-X program has installed flying boom type probe in 2016) and reliable radars. However, one of the major advantages of T-50 is that tandem-seat training variants of fighters (like F-16D) are almost unnecessary as pilots who completed T-50 training can move onto fighter training directly.

I wonder if there will be more trainer designs to be made in the future since there aren't too many up-to-date designs around the world and some are in hostile territory to NATO.

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Konrad22 In reply to Arthur330 [2017-03-29 06:28:43 +0000 UTC]

In my opinion problems between Raytheon and Finmeccanica were much more complicated. Some of the problems with weapon simulators are already solved but with another generation of software. Due to legal problems the new software cannot be used in PAF M-346. I do not know exactly what kind of problem there is, becouse Polish Ministry of Defence does not want precisely to inform about it.

I think, that after T-X program there will be very little space for another trainer plane. Maybe in a longer period some cooperation between France, Germany, and United Kingdom will create a new trainer, but I am skeptical about it.

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DingoPatagonico [2017-03-26 21:16:46 +0000 UTC]

still miss the old cammo but love the plane x3

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Konrad22 In reply to DingoPatagonico [2017-03-27 08:01:16 +0000 UTC]

Me too. There is one in old camo. I hope, I will have a chance to take some photos of her this year.

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Konrad22 In reply to Konrad22 [2017-03-27 14:18:15 +0000 UTC]

I mean one in flying condition

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