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This was actually an ask from Be The Beta Trolls , but I omitted the question on the image to keep it nice looking.

I’ve been working on this since it was asked like last week/beginning of this week. I guess the small mention of the Parti%an started something And me being crazy wanted to wait to post any of them until they were all done. But look I got them all done! And it was hard, let me tell you! Coming up with 8 letter titles and roles for all the Alpha trolls as if they were ancestors. I think I did fairly well, mixing the Alpha players, with a little screwing of the Beta player’s tossed in (since the Alpha ancestors had traits from the Alpha players too).

So time for a bit of breaking down and explanations:

Firstly, I tried to do everyone’s typing quirk properly; each player is talking about their ancestor if that wasn’t evident

The Time Lady
- Very Whovian, done all intentionally “Time” has 4 letters, “Lady” has 4 letters, 4+4=8. Her disappearing could be to mirror the Handmaiden’s traveling through time, or Aradia’s own death. You’re free to interpret it either way.

The Dommador
- “domador” is Spanish for “tamer” referring to his beast mastery/communication; the extra added “M” was to make 8 letters, and to mimic the change in Summoner’s name to make it 8 too. I could see Tav having been in a circus, especially if he got to be an acrobat (the flying ^^) and then him falling into Vriska’s mess and paying for it by loosing his legs is very obvious too. I liked the little monkey creature.

The Biinarii
- This was a bit hard to do, and this was really the only thing I could think of. I’d like to think that maybe the Beta trolls weren’t “as advanced” as the Alphas (Aranea did say she existed “billions of years” before the others after all when talking to Terezi, so that could be seen as the fact that the universe restarted around her, or maybe there was time displasia, so the Beta trolls happened BEFORE the Alpha Ancestors) since Her Imperial Radiance didn’t go around conquering things.

The Anchoret
- Very obvious parallel of the Signless’ visions, and inference that the worlds are all one giant cycle to one another? (A1 begets A2; A2 begets B1; B1 begets B2; B2 begets A1)Whatever do you mean? But crazy cave dwelling hermit makes total sense for Kartkat imo.

The Promoter
- I sorta took a darker twist on Nep’s roles…”matchmaking” doesn’t just apply to shipping, but to fight setups too. I also liked the idea of her as an alley cat. The newsie looks suits though.

Mistress Aryan Mayry
- I did a Mindfang for Kan; her “title” is 8 letters, but she also gets a full name. “Aryan mayry” is Armenian for “blood mother” (according to Google translate) and I thought it had such a lovely sound to it, and was very suitable for a vampire queen. She’s not an evil blood sucker though, rather a kindly matron too, and again works with Her Imperial Radiance to help their peoples.

Peshorja
- Terezi was a hard one too, but Dee helped me figure her out. “Peshorja” is Albanina for “libra” or “scales” (according to Google translate). A bit of headcanon about Vriska and Terezi slipped in there (really, how could she survive 6 sweeps without a lusus? And it would explain why they were so buddy buddy) but it fits. She’s also more anti-hero than Terezi. Making her uniform not seem an exact copy of Redgalre’s (though that would make sense) was hard but I like how it came out.

The Gam8itor
- Just because Alternia is peaceful does not mean that there isn’t still a darker side to it; they just aren’t off maiming and killing everything This started the “underground illegal underworld” stuff, and I sorta liked it. I really liked how I snuck her symbol in there too ^^

The Parti%an
- Reused the art, but I redid the text. Both and Equius and Darkleer seemed to go to extremes when they thought they were falling out of favor with those they respected, plus I love Spartacus, and this had a very Anamaeus feel to it, so thus his back story. That and it gave a great reason for him to fight with hi sfists and to have a broken horn.

The Mirthful Messiah
- He pulls a GHB with his name not being 8 letters but this was the only idea I had for a Beta!Gamzee, and it really works. Again, if you think about the Betas happening chronologically before the Alphas, or even if you think about the residual after effects (like Signless remembering A1) it could make sense that the Mirthful Messiah was a real person, and that the more modern trolls just built up their culture around him. I personally love this image; the bust close up just came out soooo good! And him being the only one with wings…yeah…^^ I did however forget his symbol…my bad

The VVicount
- Misspellt “viscount” to take advantage of the typing quirk (that and no one says the “S” anyways”) I felt the title was perfectly suited since Eri thinks he’s all high nobility and what not. Also influenced by the Viscount Druitt from Black Butler Ladies man nobility…yeah, that’s what Eri wants to be But I also left the open ended link to Vriska if it should be needed; who’s to say the VVicount can’t frequent the mob scene for more exotic pursuits for his own menagerie? (can you say “Duke of Verdona”? ).

Her Imperial Radiance
- I take no claim for this name at all; I saw it used on tumblr, and I just fell in love with the concept. It just suits her so perfectly. And right here is why I see how A1 can be the peaceful and A2 being the brutal one, because the empresses were opposites in attitudes. Of course, Fef would still have her Life powers, but she used them for good.

So those are the Betacestors. I highly doubt Hussie’ll get to these (if he even gives us the other Beta trolls) but hey, if he does, I’ll swap out no, sweat. But until then, this is all canon to BtBT…which means it’s fair ask game isn’t it….oh poop XD;;;;

Check it out here to like and reblog on tumblr

Homestuck © Andrew Hussie
Beta Ancestor Troll designs are mine

Description
This was actually an ask from Be The Beta Trolls , but I omitted the question on the image to keep it nice looking.

I’ve been working on this since it was asked like last week/beginning of this week. I guess the small mention of the Parti%an started something And me being crazy wanted to wait to post any of them until they were all done. But look I got them all done! And it was hard, let me tell you! Coming up with 8 letter titles and roles for all the Alpha trolls as if they were ancestors. I think I did fairly well, mixing the Alpha players, with a little screwing of the Beta player’s tossed in (since the Alpha ancestors had traits from the Alpha players too).

So time for a bit of breaking down and explanations:

Firstly, I tried to do everyone’s typing quirk properly; each player is talking about their ancestor if that wasn’t evident

The Time Lady
- Very Whovian, done all intentionally “Time” has 4 letters, “Lady” has 4 letters, 4+4=8. Her disappearing could be to mirror the Handmaiden’s traveling through time, or Aradia’s own death. You’re free to interpret it either way.

The Dommador
- “domador” is Spanish for “tamer” referring to his beast mastery/communication; the extra added “M” was to make 8 letters, and to mimic the change in Summoner’s name to make it 8 too. I could see Tav having been in a circus, especially if he got to be an acrobat (the flying ^^) and then him falling into Vriska’s mess and paying for it by loosing his legs is very obvious too. I liked the little monkey creature.

The Biinarii
- This was a bit hard to do, and this was really the only thing I could think of. I’d like to think that maybe the Beta trolls weren’t “as advanced” as the Alphas (Aranea did say she existed “billions of years” before the others after all when talking to Terezi, so that could be seen as the fact that the universe restarted around her, or maybe there was time displasia, so the Beta trolls happened BEFORE the Alpha Ancestors) since Her Imperial Radiance didn’t go around conquering things.

The Anchoret
- Very obvious parallel of the Signless’ visions, and inference that the worlds are all one giant cycle to one another? (A1 begets A2; A2 begets B1; B1 begets B2; B2 begets A1)Whatever do you mean? But crazy cave dwelling hermit makes total sense for Kartkat imo.

The Promoter
- I sorta took a darker twist on Nep’s roles…”matchmaking” doesn’t just apply to shipping, but to fight setups too. I also liked the idea of her as an alley cat. The newsie looks suits though.

Mistress Aryan Mayry
- I did a Mindfang for Kan; her “title” is 8 letters, but she also gets a full name. “Aryan mayry” is Armenian for “blood mother” (according to Google translate) and I thought it had such a lovely sound to it, and was very suitable for a vampire queen. She’s not an evil blood sucker though, rather a kindly matron too, and again works with Her Imperial Radiance to help their peoples.

Peshorja
- Terezi was a hard one too, but Dee helped me figure her out. “Peshorja” is Albanina for “libra” or “scales” (according to Google translate). A bit of headcanon about Vriska and Terezi slipped in there (really, how could she survive 6 sweeps without a lusus? And it would explain why they were so buddy buddy) but it fits. She’s also more anti-hero than Terezi. Making her uniform not seem an exact copy of Redgalre’s (though that would make sense) was hard but I like how it came out.

The Gam8itor
- Just because Alternia is peaceful does not mean that there isn’t still a darker side to it; they just aren’t off maiming and killing everything This started the “underground illegal underworld” stuff, and I sorta liked it. I really liked how I snuck her symbol in there too ^^

The Parti%an
- Reused the art, but I redid the text. Both and Equius and Darkleer seemed to go to extremes when they thought they were falling out of favor with those they respected, plus I love Spartacus, and this had a very Anamaeus feel to it, so thus his back story. That and it gave a great reason for him to fight with hi sfists and to have a broken horn.

The Mirthful Messiah
- He pulls a GHB with his name not being 8 letters but this was the only idea I had for a Beta!Gamzee, and it really works. Again, if you think about the Betas happening chronologically before the Alphas, or even if you think about the residual after effects (like Signless remembering A1) it could make sense that the Mirthful Messiah was a real person, and that the more modern trolls just built up their culture around him. I personally love this image; the bust close up just came out soooo good! And him being the only one with wings…yeah…^^ I did however forget his symbol…my bad

The VVicount
- Misspellt “viscount” to take advantage of the typing quirk (that and no one says the “S” anyways”) I felt the title was perfectly suited since Eri thinks he’s all high nobility and what not. Also influenced by the Viscount Druitt from Black Butler Ladies man nobility…yeah, that’s what Eri wants to be But I also left the open ended link to Vriska if it should be needed; who’s to say the VVicount can’t frequent the mob scene for more exotic pursuits for his own menagerie? (can you say “Duke of Verdona”? ).

Her Imperial Radiance
- I take no claim for this name at all; I saw it used on tumblr, and I just fell in love with the concept. It just suits her so perfectly. And right here is why I see how A1 can be the peaceful and A2 being the brutal one, because the empresses were opposites in attitudes. Of course, Fef would still have her Life powers, but she used them for good.

So those are the Betacestors. I highly doubt Hussie’ll get to these (if he even gives us the other Beta trolls) but hey, if he does, I’ll swap out no, sweat. But until then, this is all canon to BtBT…which means it’s fair ask game isn’t it….oh poop XD;;;;

Check it out here to like and reblog on tumblr

Homestuck © Andrew Hussie
Beta Ancestor Troll designs are mine