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Description A flipped version of BIAP, where it is rather Trump’s America and Putinist Russia that win WWIII and divides the world; and they’re evil because reasons (especially a certain Chomsky who thinks the GOP are worse than ISIS because of the presidency not caring for climate change). Once again don’t take this as a political statement and that I don’t really take this seriously; and that the comments should stay civil. And I should note that this is my first time using a basemap where the sea levels have risen.

It took me a while to make this, due to it being very close to current politics, and frankly I had a hard time making this but I persisted as it helps me lampoon the um...sentiments about the politics of the USA and Russia, given that I haven’t made much stuff in a while.

Once Trump came into power in 2016, the world would never be the same, especially with the US cozying up to Russia despite coming clean from allegations of Russian involvement during an investigation. This was prompted by USA’s once noble allies, the European countries that make up the EU, turning on them over the immigration and other social related issues in what was called the Euro-American split; NATO was dissolved in the process with the USA forming the NHSO with Russia and its allies, though Syria isn’t part of the alliance due to the US air attacks in 2017 but is an unofficial one nevertheless (more of a co-belligerent). China dumps Russia in response and of course a Second Cold War begins between the NHSO and the BBTA.

And of course the SCW that began in the late 2010’s would come to an end not with the Bravo Brooks incident in May 2021 but rather the invasion of Mexico by the USA on June 16th that was greenlit by a false flag incident staged by the FBI in the border region in New Mexico. At that point, relations between Mexico and the US fell to an all-time low over the Wall that had almost finished being built since the late 2010’s and the alleged poor treatment of Mexican-Americans and President Trump sought to settle the affair by force. The invasion, of a country that was allied to the BBTA, prompted swift declarations of war by the leading countries of that alliance as well as Russian attacks on the Eurasian powers of BBTA in response, would kick off World War III.

The BB powers had once had the high ground in the early years of the war but after failing to invade Japan, Australia, and the UK, the NHSO were on the offensive. And during this time, the US has completed its conquest of both Mexico and Canada with the help of the Russians, and is now in the process of taking over South America against the Brazilian led powers. Meanwhile the Russians along with their Belarusian and Novarusian allies were able to put the European BBTA powers on the offensive while they make short work of the Chinese over Northern Chinese and Mongolian border regions with the Indians trashing Pakistan and keeping the Chinese at bay. Also helping NHSO were the various, rightwing, nationalist, and oddly enough anti-BBTA leftwing insurgents sabotaging BBTA military efforts in Europe and the same with Tibetan, Inner Mongolian, and anti-PRC insurgents in China and the Kurds in Turkey.

After the BBTA powers were kicked out of Scandinavia in 2024, the tides had turned. In  the Russians and the American’s were able to make D-Day style landings around continental Europe and defeat the European forces, with them meeting up with each other in Germany and Greece. In the Middle East, Iran chose to fight on the side of NHSO, leading to the defeat of Saudi Arabia and Turkey of which got jointly divided by USA and Russia. In Latin America, the US had moped up opposition with the aid of its loyal allies despite ongoing insurgencies propping up every now and then. By the beginning of 2026, China stood alone; constantly holding up the hordes of NHSO around its borders in a stalemate yet is constantly being beaten back by the USA in the Pacific. The Chinese politburo had to resort to something to insure its survival or else be defeated by the aggressive powers of the Occident; so on July 25th, 2026, the Chinese unleashed a series of tactical nuclear weapons (some of them IBCMs) upon the armies and navies of NHSO in the hope of forcing a ceasefire but however it didn’t go as planned. NHSO responded by smashing most of China’s military facilities and missile silos along with plenty of cities, including Beijing. China in turn nuked some of NHSO’s cities, including their capitals of Washington D.C., Moscow, Tokyo, and New Delhi, with whatever nukes they had left. These exchanges took place in the span of over three days.

These three days of nuclear fire had become more of a turning point not just in WWIII but of the entire world, playing into the hands of Trump and Putin. The already destabilized People’s Republic of China had fragmented more, with the insurgencies in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, and Tibet already getting out of hand and the regions themselves declaring independence, or rather become puppets of NHSO. Most of the Chinese politburo had been wiped out but a junta of PLA officers has taken their place and stated that China would rather fight to the bitter end than submit to NHSO occupation, which is often shown to be brutal around the world. NHSO responded with using more nuclear weapons and some chemical ones too, and in particular, two kinetic rails from space, the “rods from God”. One, codenamed Carmen, struck the ruins of Beijing, devastating it and the region around even further and another, Fasalina, struck the hidden production facility in Central China, depriving China of its last means of producing weaponry. After a couple more months of bloody battles on the field and off the field, NHSO were able to take Beijing by the beginning of October. By October 21st, 2026, the last PLA units in Chungking surrendered unconditionally, marking the end of World War III.

The Third World War would be seen by many as the return of White, Western supremacy (to an extent regarding Russia’s desire to be culturally distinct from the West both before and after WWIII); many of those considered “undesirable” would pay the price to make the American and Russian hegemons great again. Islam and Islamic culture was to be wiped out, with many mosques destroyed and many of those that believe in Islam, regardless of their fanaticism, were to be exterminated or “converted”, i.e. sent to conversion camps; same for those who follow “heathen” religions, including Buddhism, Catholicism, and Satanism. The blacks and non-whites got the shaft and are reduced to slave races for their machines. Gays and the LGBT community weren’t spared either, with many of them purged and sent to conversion camps or exterminated; especially those whose usefulness have expired during WWIII. Everything within occupation of the NHSO powers had to follow the ways of the white man or be exterminated; or sometimes just the latter for those that can’t be bothered to be “converted”. Jews oddly enough weren’t targeted at first, but the “Doctor’s Plot” esque purges within the American bloc had kicked off the anti-Semitism of the new order, complete with the extermination of most of the Jewish population; ironically the Russians were less harsh on the Jews but still intolerant of their “subversive” nature. Yet these differences are only the tip of the iceberg of the soon to be Russo-American split of the late 2020’s and the 2030’s.

Ironically, the far-right antics of the USA, which had renamed itself the American Empire, had made Russia, now called the Soviet Russian Federal Empire, return to being far-left on the scale of the USSR in general, only with an Orthodox, Tsarist-bent to counter the Roman-flavored, Hyper-Protestant Christanity of the AE. Yet both are near-totalitarian dictatorships led by a “god-emperor” figure of sorts and have a blatant disregard for the environment and women; they are both secondary concerns at best to the higher ups of both blocs. However the AE tends to be fonder of capitalism (or rather a form of corporatism with Trump Enterprises being the ruling company in question) than the SRFE, who now embraces a form of National Bolshevism/Third Positionism, that’s more like a literal “national” socialism than socialism in general;  that and the oligarchies are the ruling classes within the SRFE. The “god emperor” of the AE is more of a North Korean style “monarchy” where the Trump Dynasty both rule publicly and behind the scenes, making sure folks like Steve Bannon who is the Vice President for life, carry out the party line; the SRFE’s “god emperor” is more of a Japanese-style figurehead where the real ruling power lies in a junta called the Imperial Public Executive Soviet and it’s technical leader is Igor Lebedev, son of the late radical activist and later member of the Duma, Vladimir Zhirinosky, whose…political views have passed on.

The Third Cold War between the AE and the SRFE had grown ever since their disagreements over their spheres of influence in Europe and China, which got split again. In the ruins of the PRC, two nations emerged, the Republic of China and the United Provinces of China; on paper, the two nations are led by Chinese people who were “redpilled” from their backward, un-Western ways but the reality is that they are mere puppet states that are closely modeled on that of their respective masters. And of course, the Chinese region is the core of the Third Cold War, with everywhere else of secondary concern, ironically so in Europe. Chinese culture almost entirely is replaced by those close to their masters, even to the point of having their written languages based on the scripts of them, Cryllic to the Russians and Latin to the Americans; this all part of the NHSO plan to insure that the “barbaric” ways of China will never return since they agreed that China is somehow responsible for the ills inflicted upon them prior to WWIII, including the disastrous War on Terror. And of course, there is a wall built in China, which is more of a DMZ on steroids but it still is a wall and both the Chinese people had and still are paying for it as punishment for their kind’s “treachery” against the civilized…um, Occident. Despite all this, insurgencies and “terrorism” are still prevalent against the Russians and Americans, taking on a variety of forms (including Maoists, Taoists, Neo-Boxers, and the Gulang Fau) and often prompting constant streams of troops and hardware to quell them; often in brutal ways involving civilians. The same applies to other regions where guerrillas opposed to the Trumpist-Putinist world order, especially those that follow “SocJus” ideals, of which mostly bring the two blocs together in quashing them and insuring that they always fail, of which they do.

Of course, this doesn’t turn away the two blocs’ tensions toward each other, as both plan on taking each other down in the long run, either through enough proxy wars to drain their economies or by direct warfare, of which would become the Fourth World War; one that can either bring victory to one of the two blocs or most likely destroy each other and bring a new dark age to humanity, perhaps more so than it is before.

EDIT: Forgot to credit Zauberfloete21 for the sea rise base map, I hope he isn't mad at me for doing so.

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Comments: 36

metalheadjohn [2018-10-05 20:38:22 +0000 UTC]

May I ask what military uniforms are like in this world for the two great powers? And to avoid sounding repetitive, what are military uniforms like in BIAP?

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KuboCaskett In reply to metalheadjohn [2018-10-05 21:18:10 +0000 UTC]

While loosely based on OTL's, both of them well literally put on the reich, with the American ones being more Germanic and the Russian ones more akin to the Soviet eras. In BIAP, the Avrupans have a weird mix between the various European and Turkish outfits and the East Asians based loosely on OTL's China's (the PRC one) with some KMT and Maoist caps around. Speaking of BIAP, I was thinking maybe I should've rewritten the text to make the BBTA more "heroic" since they oppose Trump and his forces.

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KuboCaskett In reply to KuboCaskett [2018-10-06 19:52:33 +0000 UTC]

The American weapons have a mix of European and American designs and the Russians mostly on OTL's with a touch of the other two given the alliance between them in WWIII; the Avrupan weapons are mostly European ones and the Chinese a mix of themselves and Russian ones. Both sides have very advanced tanks that can give the Abrams, the Leopards, the Type 10, and the T-14 a run for their money, same with their air forces and navies in both universes, though the Avrupans have an edge in naval warfare along with the Americans and the Chinese in ground warfare along with the Russians. The combat uniforms are quite ditto with my last post though they seem to be generally more reliant on exoskeletons and powered armor and fancy helmets.

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metalheadjohn In reply to KuboCaskett [2018-10-05 22:10:51 +0000 UTC]

Alright. Last question what are weapons and combat uniforms like in both Tls?

I suppose that sounds interesting...

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metalheadjohn [2018-09-26 20:10:36 +0000 UTC]

What are Russian Cities (Moscow and St Petersburg mainly) Like in this TL?

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KuboCaskett In reply to metalheadjohn [2018-09-27 02:52:55 +0000 UTC]

Large metropolises more likely.

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cthulhufhtagn1987 [2017-09-08 00:27:50 +0000 UTC]

The RSRP is based of the SRP the Germany banned in 1952, right?

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KuboCaskett In reply to cthulhufhtagn1987 [2017-09-08 20:56:08 +0000 UTC]

Well yes, it's basically more like the Strasserists of OTL with a left wing focus on issues (or rather a mostly far left one) while having elements of the far right.

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metalheadjohn [2017-07-12 16:22:11 +0000 UTC]

BIAP?

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KuboCaskett In reply to metalheadjohn [2017-07-12 17:20:52 +0000 UTC]

"Beardman in a High Place", the one where an SJW-Islamist Europe and Corpo-Maoist China take over the world; though I feel that one might be slightly more plausible IMO if a war where to break out between a Russo-American alliance and a Sino-Euro one.

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metalheadjohn In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-07-13 14:16:26 +0000 UTC]

i see.

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KuboCaskett In reply to metalheadjohn [2017-07-13 14:39:23 +0000 UTC]

You can thank the media pushing the whole idea of tying current day politics to the MITHC show for these two maps, including this one.

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metalheadjohn In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-07-13 16:27:01 +0000 UTC]

i believe that the Media can and will do this to anthing. Because of that, i will now create a Fatherland remake set with this Europe (or a similar idea, Hyper Liberal Europe in a cold war with Hyper Conservative America), if you don't mind of course.

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KuboCaskett In reply to metalheadjohn [2017-07-13 22:10:08 +0000 UTC]

Heh, I don't mind, as long as this constant shoving politics in pop culture with no rhyme or reason other than clickbait gives folks like us ideas to play with them.

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metalheadjohn In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-07-13 23:43:42 +0000 UTC]

heh, yeah.

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HCAOC [2017-07-12 15:23:16 +0000 UTC]

"Constinanole" Pact?

Also yeah Chomsky's gone off the deep end if he's comparing corporate-friendly conservatives to murderous jihadis.

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KuboCaskett In reply to HCAOC [2017-07-12 17:28:47 +0000 UTC]

The name of the Russian bloc is a play on the old irredentist idea of retaking present day Istanbul from the Turks, you know "Deus Vult". Oh and I seem to have misspelled it, I'll fix it later.

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Mechazoidfallen [2017-06-20 00:01:36 +0000 UTC]

"Chomsky who thinks the GOP are worse than ISIS because of the presidency not caring for climate change" I knew Chomsky's was kind of a loon, but he must be really going off the deep end now. I mean climate change is a major problem, but compare the republicans to ISIS over it is really ridiculous.

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KuboCaskett In reply to Mechazoidfallen [2017-06-20 03:50:23 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, his credibility outta be crumbling by now; s--t like that ticks me off when folks like ISIS are the big problem not the GOP.

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kyuzoaoi [2017-06-17 17:24:55 +0000 UTC]

This is a Mirror Universe, right? Like in Star Trek?

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KuboCaskett In reply to kyuzoaoi [2017-06-17 19:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Indeed a mirror universe, of Beardman in a High Place; the kind of world the mainstream news likes to believe would happen.

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PeliCross [2017-06-16 20:25:26 +0000 UTC]

Does this mean there's an alternate world to this where Earth is dominated by a bickering Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn?

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KuboCaskett In reply to PeliCross [2017-06-16 20:32:29 +0000 UTC]

IDK, but I do know that this is merely a flipped version of my previous map of which is a response to the whole trying to tie in current politics with the Man in the High Castle show. Though I can imagine that Sanders and Corbyn would somewhat enjoy that world...to an extent.

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PeliCross In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-06-17 00:10:08 +0000 UTC]

Also, the map legend and PoIs are too small to see even when I enlarge the picture. Might wanna put it in the description.

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KuboCaskett In reply to PeliCross [2017-06-17 02:36:22 +0000 UTC]

I fixed it just now so you can see the previous small stuff.

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PeliCross In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-10-07 21:49:40 +0000 UTC]

A bit late but thank you. Btw, in what sense is America Christianity "Roman-flavored" and "hyper Protestant?"

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KuboCaskett In reply to PeliCross [2017-10-07 23:51:00 +0000 UTC]

Protestant in the sense of not being the "Asiatic" Eastern Orthodoxy that the Russian Empire espouses; and the "Roman-flavored" thing, while not necessarily related to Christianity, refers to the comparison by sane people of Trump to Julius Ceasar back in Roman times (and as part of the American bloc's obsession of being super "Western" culture wise).

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PeliCross In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-10-08 02:27:53 +0000 UTC]

I see. I had pictured the "Roman-flavored" bit about the alt-right & Catholicism.

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KuboCaskett In reply to PeliCross [2017-10-08 04:08:53 +0000 UTC]

they do? huh, I guess I was sort of accurate on the alt right aspect of this map; and if you ask me, I'm under the impression that the alt right are just as bad as SJWs given that they seem to be fond of appropriating Nazi themes and slogans but also using the race baiting antics of SJWs.

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PeliCross In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-10-08 13:52:22 +0000 UTC]

It's mainly just deus vult memes concerning Islamophobia.

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KuboCaskett In reply to PeliCross [2017-10-08 15:16:25 +0000 UTC]

You know, I've always had this feeling that the alt-right's presence is greatly exaggerated by the media just to make themselves feel in the "right" and I have no idea what is truly on the right side besides opposing (actual) Nazism and the like.

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PatrickMontreal [2017-06-16 17:25:06 +0000 UTC]

South Sudan and Israel the last neutral states, wow.

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KuboCaskett In reply to PatrickMontreal [2017-06-16 20:34:07 +0000 UTC]

Israel's case is understandable, none of the blocs want it (since they both declare it a "rogue state") nor wish to bother it...yet; South Sudan's I just simply thought Israel could use a friend in the neutral department. Though I should point out that there a few other nations that are neutral but are small as hell.

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PatrickMontreal In reply to KuboCaskett [2017-06-16 21:06:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, just saw Monaco, Andorra and San Marino. LOL 

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Twiggierjet [2017-06-16 03:42:28 +0000 UTC]

Sounds like this world doesn't even need a ww4 to start to bring a new dark age.

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KuboCaskett In reply to Twiggierjet [2017-06-16 14:47:08 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, good point, maybe I should have reworded that to mean something like put it out of its misery.

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