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"...the only term I'll accept is your immediate and unconditional surrender."My favorite part of the Rebels finale.Β
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My favorite thrawn line has to be "Are you quite finished?" Thrawn has mastered the art of the verbal bitch-slap.
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I wonder if Zahn will write on what happens after the hyperspace jump. I think he has a right to, more than anyone.
This manages to capture his menacing aura very well; and with a hint of regret as well. Good work on the Chimaera decalΒ
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I can't help thinking that will be the plot of the third book. Considering that the first came before and the second is going in-between, it would make sense for the third to be post rebels.
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The probability that you are correct is very high; and in any case, I hope that you are. Mr. Zahn already indicated that he has some ideas he really wants to explore, and I can't help but think that there will likely be little now that can stop him from doing so. I just can't help but wonder if he will give us a new ending (by which I mean demise) for Thrawn, or continue to expand his story further, with this series of books.
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I wont lie, a rather large part of me wants Ezra and Thrawn to get marooned alone together on some unknown (but important) planet. The survivalist odd couple factor would be enough for me.
I just really hope Thrawn doesn't get assasinated in this timeline because that Noghri shit was complete bullcrap.
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Their personalities are, as you observed, not immediately compatible, so this form of necessary cooperation could lead to an or several interesting scenarios. Personally, I had wanted to see Ezra in the situation where he is among the survivors of the Seventh Fleet (or even just the ISD Chimaera), and have to learn to work with them and Thrawn to survive. In either case, Ezra is in a position where he could come to learn of Thrawn's purpose in creating adequate defense against the "evil' unknown threat to the rest of the galaxy, and in turn, Thrawn could come to learn from Ezra about the Force. It's an opportunity that I hope is not overlooked.
I do not believe that he will come to the same or similar fate; Rukh was the deus ex machina-like plot device in the EU, and the use of the Purgills, I would argue, is the canonical equivalent. His assassination at this point in time would be almost superfluous, for as far as I can discern, Grand Admiral Thrawn is now a dead character - Mitth'raw'nuruodo is not. Personally, I felt the original assassination was in some ways, flattering to his character as it seemed to imply that he simply cannot be beaten in a game of sheer intelligence and must rather be completely eradicated by factors outside of his control or intuition (it is the same with the Purgill). However, even now I must agree that I felt a certain outrage at "that Noghri sh*t". It seemed so disappointingly...small.
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My biggest problem with Thrawn's legends fate is that it felt out of character. Throughout the entire series Thrawn is portrayed as a tactical god who manages to come out on top no matter the situation. Then he proceeds to die to the most obvious betrayal ever. He forgets that the Noghri are only loyal to the empire (and thus to himself) because Darth Vader was an imperial, and even poisons their planet. I can't help thinking Thrawn should have at least had some sort of contingency plan for that.Β I really hope you're right and that it doesn't happen again.
As for Ezra and his interactions with the imperials, I imagine he will be very useful and eventually gain their trust. Thrawn will no doubt interrogate Ezra on the force and start using that knowledge immediately put Ezra to work.
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Seeing someone else say "tactical god" puts a smile on my face (cause it is TRUE). It certainly was a surprise and was ...off. What's worse is that in the scene you can see him working it out and seeming to realize his error. What happened, at least from what I can tell, is that Thrawn started thinking tooΒ big. I think that since Mr. Zahn already played out this manner of scenario to completeness with the Expanded Universe, he will be driven to entertain a new possibility.Β
I could see this starting out very turbulent, but inevitably, reaching a certain point of trust, and perhaps even respect. Ezra, like Eli Vanto (and how Nightswan would have been), has his utility- and Thrawn, realizing that, will be able to somehow maneuver him into a position where he will see the logic and even the long-term morality of his long-term plans. Ezra has a bit of a personality, but I imagine he could win over a few Imperials rather quickly.Β
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It would not surprise me at all if Thrawn and Ezra ended up becoming friends. When you take away the tactical genius and force superpowers the two of them are fundamentally very similar. They both want to serve and protect The Galaxy and its people, though they have different ideas on how to do that best. with Ezra's knack for the telepathic gifts of the force, I can see him being some kind of early security system for his new friends.
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That is a phenomenal point.
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If they can get Ezra to willingly tap into some of his inner darkness, he might also be used as an advanced interrogator. Although I imagine that's going to take quite a bit of convincing, considering how much our little lothrat hates causing needless pain.
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Hmm, that is true. I think Ezra has dark side tendencies that can be picked up on. I'm still not totally convinced that exerting force influence over animals like he does is in every or most cases, ethical. It's edgy. They might be able to manipulate him into doing something, but Ezra is so idealistic that upon realization, he would probably get so disgusted with himself he'd leave, or just lose it completely. It's possible he might just completely part ways with Thrawn and/or the Imperials.
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Thrawn is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. I imagine he will do everything in his power to make sure that the potentially unstable young jedi remains both under his thumb and at a safe enough distance so that he can't do any real damage. Unless provoked, Ezra is not all that dangerous to anyone, even the Imperials, and I'm sure our Chiss Grand Admiral realizes this. As for him potentially leaving, I imagine the prospect of leaving behind the only familiar people and things in the entire star system will keep him with Thrawn for a decent amount of time.
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Yes, stupidity is certainly not a quality that I'd ever feel obliged to attribute to Thrawn. He will have already weighed the utility of having a Jedi around, particularly one that he might be able to manipulate into assisting his agenda(s). Ezra is most likely to stick around for the reasons that you have stated; however, he is also highly idealistic, and at times, sporadic in his own pursuits. Should he come across something that offends his sense of justice, he is bound to take some sort of stand. He also does not heed authority for its own sake, so should he come to some understanding with Thrawn, it will be on terms of mutual equality. He might possibly respect Thrawn's capacity for leadership over his own troops, but he is not likely to ever fully appreciate it, especially if he has other ideas on how to run things.Β
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Yea, our poor little Lothcat is nothing if not stubborn, he's gonna have to try really hard toΒ make it work with his Chiss host. I really hope Pellaeon i snot dead because of how fun it would be to watch his reaction to Ezra and the Purrgill.
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So very true. I can see this getting off to a very rough start, although truthfully, it would be funny for Ezra to be all ready for a biting vengefulness from Thrawn and then instead have Thrawn pragmatically and instantaneously be like "here's our current situation, the possibilities, you're useful, therefore let us work together". Pellaeon better not be dead! That would just be way too cruel. His reaction would be great, especially if it directly contrasted with the calm collectedness we could expect from Thrawn.Β
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I just see him coming in on Ezra and Thrawn talking and being all like, "Admiral WTF is this???!!!" and Thrawn responds "Relax Pellaeon I got dis." "Can we at least put him in one of the detention cells?"
and Ezra would go, "Hey I don't like this any more than you old man."
Not to mention all the other commanders and personnel who would think Thrawn crazy for keeping Ezra around.
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Haha, that is definitely how that would go. I could see Ezra and Pellaeon butting heads more than Thrawn and Ezra come to think of it. There's bound to be a handful of people who think the whole thing is nuts. Perhaps it's part of the appeal of working under Thrawn: he seems like a cultured lunatic, but his schemes actually work (far more often than not).
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Much like all the others, this scheme of allowing a teenage rebel Jedi to stay aboard, will also work though to what ends remain to be seen. I just think it's hilarious that the most unlikely person for Ezra to align with will probably end up being both his strongest ally and greatest friend on the ship, a fellow 'rebel' of sorts, who just happens to be the fleet's Grand Admiral. I can only imagine the shenanigans that will ensue when the tactical genius rebel and the superpowered teenager rebel combine their forces.
I can see it now: alarms blaring all over the Chimera, the prisoner has escaped his cell. Captain Pellaeon races to contain the situation and becomes distressed when he cannot reach the Grand Admiral. With a small contingent of storm troopers he makes his way to Thrawn's office and enters. Only to find the Admiral and the prisoner drinking tea and having what sounded like a perfectly amicable conversation over the strange piece of twilek art they had picked up on Ryloth.
Thrawn: Captain Pellaeon, is something the matter?
Ezra: *waves to Pellaeon* Hi Captain!
Pellaeon: No, Grand Admiral *glares at Ezra* I don't know why I expect anything else on this ship.
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It will be one hell of a ride, no matter what. I would have never guessed that those two would end up together; it is hilarious as you said. I can only wonder what this manner of team-up can accomplish.
That is astonishingly easy to imagine
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Ezra would no doubt be an annoying telepathic and telekinetic nuisance in Pellaeon's eyes (as well as the other officers). Either way the Chimera is going to be a much more exciting ship to be on, what with the jedi guest and being lost somewhere in unexplored space. Best of all: no Yslamari anywhere in sight.
I shudder to think what Thrawn level genius combined with Jedi and Rebel level daring and luck can do to either Snoke or the Yuzhan Vong, or possibly both.
Either way I'm currently praying to the Force and the Disney Gods that this is the next series (books or tv).
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They will have to get used to their new situation I suppose. No ysalamiri, save it be for those sculptures in Thrawn's office...but yes. At the very least they are perhaps stranded, or lost with a benevolent Jedi, as opposed to a psychopathic maniac. They are in more danger of getting attached to him than being ...corrupted or killed (for the most part).Β
This combination is already set to be great (if it can compare with the Thrawn/C'baoth team-up). I really do wonder what it is that they will come in contact with...Snoke, or even the Vong. Whatever "evil" it is Thrawn is talking about. Not that even their combined capability would be sufficient to extinguish it.
There's a lot of talk that Timothy Zahn will address this situation in his third book. He has a bit of free reign now, so we can be sure that he will use it. It does not seem as likely that Thrawn or Ezra will reappear in a television series....but we shall see.
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Between the two of them I would say Thrawn is probably a lot more likely to return to tv than Ezra.Β Either way I pray that our God Emperor Dave Filoni and Timothy Zahn make this happen.
Comparing Ezra and C'baoth has me wondering about a confrontation between the two of them. Maybe Ezra having to free his new Imperial friends from C'baoth's mind fuckery. Though Ezra would most-likely lose a straight lightsaber duel the grateful Imperials would probably help him.
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That seems like it might be right. They can still make a lot of money off of him, so there's one easy way to do it (along with the novels of course). I know that Timothy Zahn will do it, but that Filoni is a bit more...tricky. He could at the very least, throw in some hints and references. In any case, it doesn't seem like there's any one else we can rely on - certainly not any of the film directors from what we've seen thus far.
That would be intensely interesting. Ezra is a near-polar opposite of C'boath, particularly as far as morals are considered (except in a few instances). It would be cool to see a circumstance where Ezra is faced with the choice of saving the Imperials from an enemy who is stronger than he is, or letting them suffer, be subjugated, or die. If he helped the Imperials in this situation, they would certainly be on friendlier terms for the long-run.
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In this situation, I believe that 100% Ezra would choose to save the Imperials, if only because his idealism wont allow him to do anything else. It's also the pragmatic decision given that the Imperials could back him up during the fight. By far the biggest advantage Ezra has is the fact that he's not insane, meaning he wont be as delusional or easily distracted as C'baoth. Over the course of the fight I imagine C'baoth keeping Ezra physically on the ropes, but slowly losing his mind as he attempts to turn Ezra and take over the Imperials' minds.
Thrawn in turn would have enough time to recover, come up with a solution, and implement it. His primary objective would of course be to protect his own people first by evacuating them, and then neutralizing the threat as quickly as possible. If the fight goes outside the ship he might chooseΒ to engage some of the Chimaera's weapons on the old man, though that might be to dangerous given the chances of hitting Ezra instead. That being the case, I think Thrawn may use them as just distractions to give Ezra an opening.Β
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Another thing: he'll have more friends that way. It's numeric utility is just to high for his friendly idealistic morality to ignore. Ezra would undoubtedly be able to defeat him if he has such allies. It's in his nature, not to mention, his character design.
It is a situation that Thrawn would have complete control over so far as he can consider all factors involved. And as you said, he would, in having enough time to stage an intellectual recovery, be able to devise a sufficient plan and implement it. That would be quite the distraction, and knowing C'boath, it would provide a very good opening. Were this ever an occurrence (unlikely), as a narrative it would likely include a significant casualty; either by way of numerical loss, or importance.Β
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Look at us, coming up with a better story in a forum thread than the last jedi's professional writers could.
The battle would be long and hard, with our dear young jedi being severely fatigued and possibly injured. Ezra gets the final blow after the Chimaera's turbo laser knocks C'baoth to the ground, and we're left with one dead clone jedi and one living real one. I imagine the Chimaera losing a quarter of it's crew to C'baoth's insanity, and everyone else grateful that it wasn't any worse.
Ezra's act of dedication will probably earn him some admiration and trust among the remaining crew (Thrawn included), and possibly a few more freedoms on board. Maybe now he gets to carry Kanan's lightsaber on him just in case anything else happens. Thrawn would probably see these events as a bitter sweet victory with the loss of so many troops and crew, especially since he was rendered powerless and had to rely on Ezra to get them out of the situation.
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It is terrible that this seems to be the case
The outcome is going to be quite severe. With C'baoth, you cannot afford to go part way, and past a certain point, he cannot be reasoned with. The combined use of a Star Destroyer and a Jedi would allow for some great possibilities. in the end, no matter how powerful or insane the enemy.
Whatever did happen to Kanan's lightsaber anyway...
Thrawn wouldn't be too happy about that kind of situation, but he wouldn't carry a resentment. They would have to simply tend to the wounded, "dispose of" the dead, and carry on. Ezra would no doubt, be allotted some semblance of trust in the event of this scenario.
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Yeah, but that's half the fun of fandom right? Out-doing the pros. Except for Timothy Zahn.
I just think it would be funny to watch Thrawn have to process the fact that Ezra saved him and almost everyone else.
Ezra: Sooo I'm just a poorly trained child right?
Thrawn: ... *plotting a million different plots to destroy him*
And thats how they start on the road to trust and friendship. Watch the Chimaera become Ezra's new temporary home.
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No one can out-do Timothy Zahn. But these new writers? Certainly.Β
It would be, although it might be difficult to get a visible reaction from him. Then again, he is surprising at times. I think that should they stay together, they will come to trust each other and regard the other as a friend. It seems very likely that this is what will happen. Ezra might find the ISD Chimaera to be a very interesting and expansive place to reside.Β
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Timothy Zahn is like the light in the darkness, we can always count on him when it seems there is no hope left.
What a plunge this whole experience is going to be for Ezra, the lothrat rebel jedi eventually learning to trust imperials. Not just random imperials either, but their leader, the man who bombarded his home planet and the most dangerous person in the Empire aside from Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader. A lot of force-mind-reading on Ezra's part will be necessary for that level of forgiveness.Β Β
If I remember correctly, an Imperial Star Destroyer is basically the size of a small city. So yeah it's going to be a big shiny new playground. I can easily see Ezra getting himself into some trouble and either Pellaeon or Thrawn having to play the disciplinarian parent.
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This is true. In the end, it is not over until he ends it so to speak. I trust his ability to satisfactorily give a good ending, one with closure, and respect to the characters.
If he's going to maintain a good conscience and Jedi morality, it will be a struggle. Ezra seems to have matured above keeping petty grudges, but it would be ridiculous to completely overlook all the people who were killed or injured. Perhaps he might come to understand (not necessarily accept) that Thrawn did it, not because he gets a kick from it or thought it was fun, but to achieve strategic results and simply do the job the Emperor had ordered him to do.Β
"Small city" is a very good size comparison. Ezra will have many places to go and explore; enough to let him get away from any nagging or unpleasant interactions, should he wish. I could see Pellaeon being like a disciplinarian parent; Thrawn would likely be the one devising the plan to flush him out of the vents.
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I can just imagine Pellaeon poking around the ship trying to get Ezra to come out like a traditional general. Meanwhile Grand Admiral Thrawn is commanding the operation from the bridge manipulating the most minute portions of the ship making Ezra the architect of his own capture. I imagine evading the two of them would be quite the fun and exciting pastime for our blueberry jedi.
Thrawn will definitely have an easier time with the emotional aspect of the situation than Ezra. For him it will be a simple matter of necessity like "I'm in this situation and I have to get out of it regardless of how much I hate being trapped with this little jedi shit." Meanwhile his tendency to guide people to their proper places in life will compell him to become Ezra's third dad (or "blue dad"). The whole time he becomes more and more used to the force superpowers, though never quite trusting them, and reminding himself that this is all for the Chiss.
On a side note, the more I read and learn about the Chiss, the less I like them. I can deal with having a super-controlling almost communistic society, I can deal with being too proud to realize Β that proactivity is a good thing, I can deal with being the hipsters of space. However, I can NOT deal with hating the force enough to execute people and banish children for using it. If I was Thrawn I would be glad for getting kicked out of that place.
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That is precisely the picture that I have. It could provide for some nice, light-hearted fun, and perhaps set up for a nice plot twist.
This is highly probable; the most in way of an emotional outburst/reaction he will give is to write an eloquent journal entry. I like to think that under someone like Ezra's direction, he could come to understand the force. He's different from most of the other Chiss in that he is willing to and able to adapt in a situation, as opposed to simply retreating each time he does not have enough data or experience. Logically, it would make sense if his defeat was so dependent on something he does not understand, he would naturally seek to understand it, even if only to prevent it from occurring ever again.
Most of that is true, and while the concept of a logos/logic-overrun society can be a bit grating in their methods and practices, I am not wholly sure about them hating the Force. It is true that it is rare to find Chiss who are able to use it; likely due to their evolved tendency towards reason and logic as opposed to mythic thinking. From what source have instances implying executions and exiles based off of Force-ability occurred? I am ignorant of them and would very much desire to know.Β
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Regarding sources on Chiss and the Force we have the wikiΒ starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chiss/β¦ , and the source the wiki usesΒ swtor.jedipedia.net/en/cdx/forβ¦
It's not much, but it's all we have on the subject.
When I first read this I immediately thought that Disney should change this in the new canon, however, thinking about it now I don't quite feel that way. I now think that having our jedi main charaacters in the star wars universe have to interact with and process a sentient race that actively dislikes the force would be an interesting story arc. Though they might end up doing that with the vong, and I'm not sure if I like that. If they do choose to go this route I cannot imagine Thrawn knows about it, his canon version seems far too ignorant of the force in general for him to know about policies like this. If he did, he would NOT be okay with it, given his stance on killing innocents, especially those of his own people.
Thinking about Ezra teaching Thrawn about the force, makes me imagine the two of them going on some trippy jedi field trips together. Maybe they discover another jedi temple and the whole time Thrawn is standing around admiring the wall paintings and wondering about the literal magic going on around him, meanwhile Ezra just shruggs and cries about Kanan. It would be fun to see Thrawn's reaction to the World between Worlds, and if he is confronted by any events from his past. I can just imagine Ezra rattling off all the different force abilities, and Thrawn taking some furious notes. Either way he's going to realize that understanding the force in any meaningful way is no small feat, and that he will have to dedicate a lot of time to it.Β
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Alright, I see. I'm familiar with the wiki article, but I have not delved much into SWTOR at all. I'm not surprised to see that this is/was the case.
I do not think that they will be reintroducing the Vong; they caused many problems with consistency due to their being "outside" of the Force. Whether the Chiss conscientiously dislike/distrust the Force, or are simply ignorant of it will still make sense in the Canon, although I think that for consistency, the latter would make more sense. I do not think that Thrawn is actively anti-Force; I think he just misunderstands what exactly it is and how it works. At least in the old Canon/Legends material, he was very open-minded, allowing alien races and women to serve in the Empire of the Hand. It seems like it would be out of character for him to not want to take advantage of something unusual simply because there is a societal stigma.
That would be one of the coolest things ever, honestly. Perhaps Jedi artwork is the key to Thrawn gaining a better understanding. Perhaps not. I could see Thrawn becoming very invested into understanding the Force, furious note-taking and study included. Maybe Ezra could take on a mentor-type role in this regard. That could be interesting.
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I can just imagine them stumbling on the temple and Thrawn insisting that they set up their camp next to it so that he can do around the clock art studies. If and when they actually get inside the World between Worlds he's confronted by events from his own past, but is severely distracted by the symbology around each portal. He may also try to step through one and get back to imperial space, Ezra having to stop him by explaining that the portal takes you to that moment as well as that place. Either way watching Thrawn try to understand the metaphysical aspects of the force would be absolutely hilarious.
Thrawn: So about these 'midichlorians', they're microscopic organisms that connect you to the Force?
Ezra: As far as I gather. Kanan said that the old Jedi order used a blood test for them to find force-sensitive children.
Thrawn: *interested* And how would such a test be helpful?
Ezra: It would be able to determine how many midichlorians are in each child's blood. The higher your midichlorian count is, the more force potential you have.
Thrawn: What is your midichlorian count Commander Bridger?
Ezra: I don't know, and I don't really care.
Thrawn: Aren't you the least bit curious?
Ezra: Not enough to risk getting arrested. The empire cut off all information about the midichlorians and declared any and all research into the force to be illegal.
Thrawn: For the purpose of keeping the masses ignorant. *sadness*Β
Thrawn definitely would not hate the force, in fact I think he would be quite fond of it and it's potential utility. The force can do pretty much anything and he would make use of that. I imagine Thrawn being one of the people smuggling force-sensitive Chiss children out of the Assendancy and to some secret training facility that he sets up either in the larger galaxy or the empire of the hand. Or he might just start giving them to the jedi.
God I really hope the Vong never come back and go die in a dumpster fire. How the fuck do you even get outside the force? And why would a race that hates anything artificial and loves everything alive WANT to be apart from the force? I don't know, but I hope Disney scraps them in favor of Snoke because at least there's some room there for something new.
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That would prove to be entertaining and interesting. The art and architecture of a Jedi temple would be invaluable to Thrawn in gaining a better understanding of the Force.
If he can see the long-term strategic benefit, he will do it. In a surprising turn of events they find that Thrawn actually has a higher midi-chlorian count than Ezra: he's simply stifled his connection with the Force through his rigid reliance and rigorous dependence on logic and rationality. Thrawn would have of course, and in any case, been highly useful to the Jedi had he been working in conjunction with them.Β
The concept of something living outside of the Force already sets itself up to be a massive failure for consistency in the Star Wars universe. The Vong seem more like a Star Trek type race than Star Wars in any case. They are terrifying, but it seems to be because they rely on the wrong reasons. You bring up a phenomenal argument: it does not make much sense for such a tech-abhorrent, live-centric species to be apart from the Force. They simply should not be alive. With Snoke, they could at least provide a little more depth for him, while also showing why he was supposed to be dangerous in the first place. There's a lot they can consistently do there.Β
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It would be really interesting to find out Thrawn has force powers, although I think that would defeat the purpose of his character. His whole MO is "I don't need superpowers to be awesome. The only thing more powerful than my brain is my art obsession." and giving any indication that he could be force sensitive might cheapen that. Plus I don't know how Thrawn himself would feel about that.
I can only imagine what would happen if they ended up on a planet like Mortis, or Ach-to, where the whole planet is one gigantic piece of force lore for the two of them to go exploring. That would be quite the interesting idea indeed.
I just had another idea, about this 'threat', if they bring anything back from legends it should be the Killik (or the Kind). A new swarm war would certainly be threatening enough to warrant Thrawn's concern. The idea of a hive mind taking over the galaxy is potentially just as threatening as the Vong ever were, but not quite as stupid op.
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Yes; while an interesting concept to entertain, it would completely eradicate what makes him unique in the first place. Even if this did occur, I feel as though he would do one of two things: disregard it and continue on as he does (as that has proven to be highly efficient and not in need of any fundamental change); or completely pursue its implementation as a tool (thus resulting in a character death of sorts, as he would become like almost anyone else 
That could be a neat idea. Even if in their travels they happened to pass through, it would be cool to see them in a setting like that. It would potentially help tie in some of the films, or just reiterate the importance of some of the planets we have come across.
That is actually a very good idea. You don't have to have a ridiculously overpowered threat: just one with very large numbers, or a highly centralized purpose. In that sense, the threat wouldn't even necessarily have to be the Killik: just something along those lines. The threat could possibly be something other than a physical race; it could be a sentient entity with a more bizarre manifestation.Β
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I don't want Thrawn to be like everyone else, I like my blue Grand Admiral just the way he is. Sith Lords and Dark Jedi are all well and terrifying, but the universe is over saturated with them. Us fans love Thrawn for the same reason we HATE Tarkin; both characters are extremely well developed characters who impact us with who they are and not what they are. Tarkin for being the psychopathic monster-in-human-skin that he is, and Thrawn for being Thrawn.
Though if Thrawn did have force potential, and chose to cultivate it, what abilities would he use? Given his aversion to relying on emotion, I can see him gravitating more toward the Light-side and it's abilities.
If they were to choose a more existential threat for whatever battle they are planning, then the obvious choice is Abeloth. She is the only foe that I can imagine who would provide a big enough challenge to Thrawn's capabilities to truly push him to his limit. I mean how the fuck are you supposed to strategize around an enemy who is the concept of Chaos personified? This would also necessitate some understanding of the force in order to actually hunt her down and confront her. Poor Ezra would probably have to be the guinea pig for a lot of this, his mind would get scarred for life at half the shit Abeloth does.
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His appeal would be shot within a matter of seconds. I actually like Tarkin for the same fundamental reasons I like Thrawn and even Eli Vanto: a nobody from a backwater planet/nowhere that has to strategize his way through prejudice and opposition to get to the top. Thrawn and Tarkin are more similar than they are different, as they both implement whatever method they deem to be the most efficient for a situation. Tarkin may be a bit of a monster, but Thrawn wiped out an entire civilization as a result of being unable to understand their art and therefore, strategy.Β
Hmm, that is a good question. He, being who he is, might not gravitate towards any side, but rather conveniently pick and choose abilities that he deems useful. This might give him a tendency towards the Dark Side, but I don't think that he would outright commit to it. But as you said, he is averse towards emotion, so he might very well be drawn to the Light Side and its rigid discipline.
Abeloth is absolutely terrifying. Considering how much they have implemented the Father, Son, and Daughter, it's possible that they might. She would make a most interesting enemy for Thrawn to combat. I don't know if Disney would ever want to go this route, but it would be insanely cool. Even if it did scar Ezra for the rest of forever.Β Β
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I always thought Tarkin was way worse, especially after his son died. Thrawn does everything he can to avoid unnecessary casualties, (especially civilian) where as Tarkin seems to delight in killing as many innocent people as he can. The guy did blow up one of the most popular (and populated) planets in the galaxy after all.
This gives me a scary thought: Thrawn with mind-control powers. *shiver* I guess insubordination wouldn't be a problem after that.
All things considered I think our Chiss Grand Admiral would approach having the Force like it's a trump card. He'll use it if he has no other choice, but be very careful to avoid revealing that he has it prematurely. This being the case I think he'll focus more on augmenting the skills he already has, like his perception and fighting capabilities. Mind-reading as well as the mind-control I mentioned above would make running his fleet and preventing more fulcrums a whole lot easier.
Yea if I were Ezra I would refuse to teach Thrawn anything past the most basic force use. Giving him the force would turn him from a tactical god to an ACTUAL god.
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It would make sense. After everything and underneath it all, he is still human after all. Thrawn makes a valiant effort out of not being needlessly violent; that goes with saying however, he's not above massacring large populations if it means he can stave off a larger threat in doing so, or force a surrender. Tarkin does undoubtedly seem to find some form of pleasure from destroying Alderaan, but it was not is main objective. He didn't need much of an excuse to go through with it, granted, but ultimately he was trying to send a message.
Oh no, Thrawn already seems to have some sort of ability to do that XD Proabaly more because he can read into people's habits and set things up a certain way, but that is indeed a scary thought. If he had the Force, he would, as you said, be very careful in revealing it and to whom, if anyone at all. It would be the admittance of a vulnerability. He is likely to do what he can to enhance what he knows how to work with, but he is not going to immediately sacrifice any of his strengths to go chasing after uncertainties, even potentially powerful ones.
Not that I would complain if Thrawn upgraded his status in this fashion. The galaxy would receive the ruler it needs but doesn't deserve. I don't think Thrawn would reveal any abilities to Ezra; but Ezra could possibly get excited or want to follow in his mentor's footsteps and teach someone....haha, just not Thrawn.
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I can just imagine Ezra finding out and being super excited and bummed out at the same time. Like "Of all people WHY did it have to be YOU???" would be the first thing out of Ezra's mouth. And Thrawn would just sit there mulling over the possibillites in his head.
This whole thing just gets me more excited for Alliances, and I can't wait for July. The thought of a violent, psychopathic, cyborg trying to work with a cold, calculating, micromanaging admiral makes me wonder what could go wrong.
I think a universe ruled by God-Emperor Thrawn would be an incredibly interesting place to live. Immediately all outside threats to the galaxy would immediately vanish, art would become the single most important thing in both personal and public life, everyone would get the job that was best suited to their talents and interests, the functions of government would become far more humane and efficient, and the Rebellion would be totally fucked royal. Thrawn may grant amnesty to those who join his new god-order, but I doubt there is anything that can save the traitor Kallus from the wrath of Thrawn.
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Haha, yeah. I think that inevitably the curiosity and excitement would win out over the ...dismay. A discovery like that would not faze Thrawn in the least. Finding out that the entire Chiss Ascendancy has been completely wiped out in his absence on the other hand....
Alliances is what is keeping me going right now. It's an interesting combination, especially because Vader is now cross with Thrawn and considers him a failure. I wonder if that will be remedied.Β
It's a scenario that feels like Dune. Kallus is completely screwed, as are any opponents of this new order. I'd be completely for it. It would be completely orderly and as you said, efficient. There's bound to be some unsatisfied people as is usual for this universe, and perhaps even assassination attempts and corrupted political figures - but inevitably, it would be a good system. The galaxy at that point would be next to totally prepared for whatever threats Thrawn is worried about.
Happy May Fourth by the way.
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