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LadyStarwing In reply to ??? [2012-03-17 18:26:04 +0000 UTC]
Let's hope they get a second shot too
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LadyStarwing In reply to KoishiGrim [2011-06-10 01:03:51 +0000 UTC]
? You don't like Chidori? *confused* or was that sarcasm?
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KoishiGrim In reply to LadyStarwing [2011-06-10 01:05:09 +0000 UTC]
I honestly do not like Chidori...no offense. My last boyfriend always compared himself to Junpei and he dumped me after 2 years after he played the game, so he could go find his "Chidori"
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CelestialKami-chan In reply to KoishiGrim [2011-07-12 21:07:40 +0000 UTC]
-_-# Clearly he was no Junpei then because Junpei would never be that huge of a jackass.
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LadyStarwing In reply to KoishiGrim [2011-06-10 01:09:31 +0000 UTC]
*gives a shoulder pat* I'm sorry about that. the guy should've gotten a kick in teh balls.
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KoishiGrim In reply to LadyStarwing [2011-06-10 01:10:37 +0000 UTC]
no shit -cracks knuckles- and thanks
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KoishiGrim In reply to LadyStarwing [2011-06-10 01:21:24 +0000 UTC]
Why do your commissions have to be money. -_- I'm broke
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LadyStarwing In reply to KoishiGrim [2011-06-10 01:33:22 +0000 UTC]
I can do points commissions too *nods*
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Chei-sama In reply to LadyStarwing [2011-04-15 00:59:27 +0000 UTC]
It had a K in it! That's close enough for me! And yes XD
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CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-14 20:34:07 +0000 UTC]
I dunno, I get the feeling that all four of them might not end up so dead after all. Maybe it's because I'm trying to link together all of the game's versions of continuity, but here's how I see it:
Original timeline: P3 -> The Answer -> P4
*Elizabeth decides to use her power to bring back the Protagonist, altering the timeline.
P3/ P3FES -> The Answer -> P4
*Chidori is able to be brought back to life in FES continuity as part of the side effect of Elizabeth's alterations
Now: P3+P3FES+another alteration3P -> The Answer -> P4
*The reality is split depending on the gender of the Protagonist and Chidori and Shinjiro can be brought back to life. Margaret decides to go back in time (the Velvet Room attendants aren't bound by time) and tests the M/F Protagonist to prove their worth. Theodore also enters the picture and replaces Elizabeth in the Female Protagonist's reality.
I also think the Persona 4 Protagonist also has a part in this. With the elimination of the Fog, humanity is no longer blinded by its own lies and illusions, including the illusion that death=salvation (I just find these two things really hard to separate) With the Fog out of the way, part of what keeps Erebus up and kicking is gone, so the need for a Seal for Nyx is lessened.
I think with the power of all 3 Protagonists and all 3 Velvet Room attendants (and maybe Igor too), the Great Seal can disappear without Erebus posing a threat, their spirits are free, and they can use the power of the World/Universe to alter the world and shape it so people aren't wishing for death or being caught up in illusions, and can exist in one big happy universe where all 3 Protagonists can live in while Shinjiro and Chidori are alive and well (Ryoji too if we could fit him in somehow. Maybe just his human side).
That's just how I see it anyway. I know it may go against P3's themes of learning to accept death, change, and learning to make the most out of your life, but it can still work for this. And between you and me, I always found P3's themes to be pretty depressing and, let's face it, not exactly sutble.
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Sharkmon97X In reply to CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-23 01:06:49 +0000 UTC]
Y'know, that'd be a really awesome fanfic. You should try writing that!
And, for P3's themes...I agree with you 100%. Persona 3 had good ideas, in CONCEPT, but in execution, eehhhh, they weren't done as good as they could've. It tried WAY too hard to attempt it was dark and serious (when in reality, it's hardly the darkest SMT game out there) buy killing off good characters every 5 minutes, using the character scenes to show them whining about life and spout stuff that really should have been explained instead of just thrown in there, (let's not forget that P3 and P3FES did not have any S.Links with SEES, aside from the girls, which aside from Aigis, were probably the worst characters out of the group -_-) instead of, oh, I don't know, DEVELOPING THEM?
And God, if Persona 3 was any less subtle about death, it would have just about every single main character's parents killed off before the game even star-Oh wait, that actually is in the game.
Sorry about that rant, I just have a tendancy to do that with Persona fans who actually agree with me on P3. (I blame all the obnoxious P3 fanboys who would make the Final Fantasy fanboys look mature and dignified. >.>)
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CelestialKami-chan In reply to Sharkmon97X [2011-04-23 02:13:19 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm not saying that they did it poorly, just that it got a little too overwhelming at times. And to the game's credit, you did have the rest of SEES as Social Links when you played as the female character in P3P.
The one thing that really bugged me though was Erebus. He's said not to be a Shadow, yet he's supposed to be a manifestation of human suffering. But aren't Shadows supposed to be the physical manifestations of human emotion? Where does Erebus fit into this then? If he was some kind of god-like being like Nyx who had control over Shadows like she did, that I would understand, but they didn't really make that clear. It also unnerves me that the game seems to be saying, "Have one depressing thought and you'll make it one step closer to the end of the world", as if making everyone eternally happy all the time will keep ourselves from suicidal thinking. That just makes me paranoid as hell! I personally know people with depression and let me tell you it does NOT just go away. I can understand that it's important to learn to deal with it and appreciate life, but people will have sad thoughts and they have to deal with them themselves, but not everyone ends up choosing the right way to do so. Does that mean that we all have to suffer because of this if not 100% of society is happy 24/7?
I think Final Fantasy and Megami Tensei seem to have their own little competition like Mario and Sonic have when it comes to best-selling JRPGs.
My best ending for Persona 3: the world is reshaped more realistically by being not as depressing as all heck, the M/F protagonists both live and in the same universe, and Chidori and Shinjiro are alive and well.
I seriously cannot wait until I get a copy of Persona 4.
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Sharkmon97X In reply to CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-23 04:17:49 +0000 UTC]
Eh, good point, but I think if it managed to blend in it's moody emo themes with some more comedy and whatnot similar to FMA, it would've worked out a LOT better. I know I might've been harsh, but because I was about halfway through Persona 4(MY FAVORITE VIDEO GAME OF ALL TIME btw. ) when I picked up FES, and from all the good things I heard about it, I was expecting an awesome, phenominal experience....and what I got was 'Naruto: The extra angsty adventures of Sasuke and his angsty anime stereotypes', only it doesn't really suck as much as that would and-wow, I've gotten off track.
But yeah, one thing I'll give to Persona 3, P3P is a great improvment over the other versions, if only because it reduces the number of semi-pointless deaths now!
And WOW, that was the exact same thought I had when I saw the ending to The Answer! It seriously annoyed me when the game said that the ONLY way the MC would EVER come back was as if absolutley NO ONE on the ENTIRE planet was allowed to think anything depressing. I mean, I'm fully aware of the people who go through things like war and prison, and those kinda thoughts are NEVER leaving, no matter what the SEES members try to do about that.
And yeah, THAT'S the real good ending for P3, and I've seen a ton of fanfics that end that way too. Hell, me, Starwing, and her boyfriend are all working on some that end that way right now. (Yeah, me and Starwing are actually good friends. )
And, yeah. You REALLY need to get Persona 4. I'm not gonna say anything about the game so I don't end up falsely rising your expectations, but I will say, for me, that game is my holy grail.
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CelestialKami-chan In reply to Sharkmon97X [2011-04-23 17:32:13 +0000 UTC]
True Art is Angsty, says a page on TV Tropes. Angst and Unhappy Endings are Overrated, says I. At least the finale of FMA (not counting the movie) left it open enough to have a spot of hope in it.
And you get to play as a girl! And hang out with Junpei! (btw, I'm probably the only Junpei fangirl whose not that upset that you can't date him, but then again, I'm a hardcore Junpei/Chidori shipper)
Okay, I'm sure they didn't mean that everyone on the planet had to be 100% happy all the time (but they certainly implied it) and that all we really have to do is appreciate our lives more, but I would have already done that without that message being shoved down my throat, thank you very much Atlus! That doesn't make me want to live my life to the fullest, that just makes me paranoid! With that realism in mind, that just makes SEES's goal almost entirely pointless (just for that 100% goal anyway). AND IF EREBUS IS SUPPOSED TO AWAKEN NYX SO SHE'LL BRING FORTH THE FALL, THEN HE'S PRETTY MUCH JUST RIPPING OFF RYOJI'S JOB! I JUST DON'T GET IT!!!
Luckily, if what Elizabeth is doing in Persona 4 works, we might just get one of those fanfic endings to be canon if Atlus decides not to be joykills and have it happen 1000 years after everyone has died.
I. Really. Want. Persona. 4! But I can't find it anywhere!
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LadyStarwing In reply to CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-14 20:35:56 +0000 UTC]
wow, that's a lotta text. *blink blink*
And I do agree with you, I was just going with the picture's theme for the spirit of 3/5 alone.
That and I wanted to actually draw Chidori in her canon outfit, partially; it's a pain to draw, but a breeze to color.
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LadyStarwing In reply to CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-14 20:47:53 +0000 UTC]
Junpei would have died from blood loss.
A kimono would have been nice though, or maybe a different goth lolita outfit.
And I think this is actually a bit more depressing than Deathly Hallows; P3 actually makes me tear up a lot more often.
Especially the whole deal with Shinjiro and Strega as a whole; they really got the short end of the stick.
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LadyStarwing In reply to CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-14 21:17:14 +0000 UTC]
Some of them did, like Chidori's.
Ikutsuki deserved it though.
Shinjiro ... I could see why his death would be valid. He truly had a lot of shit haunting him, and it was to the point where it was almost too much. If he let Takaya kill Ken .. he might have just flat-out gone insane and killed himself anyway.
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LadyStarwing In reply to CelestialKami-chan [2011-04-14 21:43:09 +0000 UTC]
taking this in sections ...
HangedMagician (Junpei/Chidori, in other words): Yeah, her revival seemed more potent for me. She comes back with NO MEMORIES and Junpei STILL cares for her. If THAT isn't damn impressive and a big show of maturity, I don't know what is. He's also one of the few characters whose development doesn't go down the toilet when the Answer starts.
Shinjiro: I always assumed he was detoxed while in the hospital. It's either that or his body actually managed to build up a resistance to them, so they weren't effecting him by the time Hamuko entered the picture. But yes, even if they did linger in his system, he'd live a long life before they did him in.
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CelestialKami-chan In reply to LadyStarwing [2011-04-14 23:50:19 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! ^_^
Here's my idea of how Chidori could get her memories back: Remember how she came back to life because the flowers she put her life force into were put on her corpse and the life force of the flowers was just sucked back into her body? Well what if Junpei added a flower he healed into the mix? He has Chidori's healing ability for battle, so I don't see why he can't do the flower-healing thing too. He could add that flower to the rest of the bouquet before or just have her hold it while she's asleep or something and it will go back into her and the life force within it will trigger her memories.
Here's how that would work: I like to think that their life force is reflective of the aura of their Personas, and Junpei has a solid blend of his and Chidori's life force inside of him because Trismegistus is a fusion between Hermes and Medea. Revived Chidori has Medea's power (or her old life force) inside of her because she healed those flowers before she died, but if Trismegistus's power was put inside of her, then she would have a blend of her and Junpei's life force, which would trigger her memories if she has a part of Junpei's life. Now they have a bit of each other inside themselves! (Wow, that sounded really dirty XD).
Well, either that or Junpei could have just given her her old sketchbook.
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CelestialKami-chan In reply to LadyStarwing [2011-04-15 00:08:30 +0000 UTC]
YAY! I feel loved! X3
I've been thinking about writing a fanfic where Chidori was introduced to Twilight by some rabid fangirls at the hospital. Junpei feels mixed about this because he personally hates it but thinks Chidori might be interested because it has vampires in it. She reads it and then proceeds to burn it and Junpei loves her even more because of their mutual hate for Twilight!
I know, it's just the whole "a part of him inside of her" thing does sound a little innuendo-y.
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lynnechae [2011-03-07 03:25:35 +0000 UTC]
Nice picture !
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LadyStarwing In reply to SteveAnime [2011-03-06 04:30:06 +0000 UTC]
The original planning sketch was done by hand, but the lineart and coloring was done via photoshop elements six.
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LadyStarwing In reply to SteveAnime [2011-03-06 04:45:33 +0000 UTC]
kay. *nods* what's the request then?
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MercifulHeretic [2011-03-05 22:48:12 +0000 UTC]
I don't know if Jin's sacrifice was necessarily "heroic," but he did basically sacrifice himself for Takaya.
I love how the FemC is with Shinji in this pic, though.
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naotoshirogane1 [2011-03-05 20:34:03 +0000 UTC]
You forgot Ryoji... T_T
Holy crap, I forgot today was 3/5! Just great...now I have to make a P3 drawing too! xD (not that I'm complaining, I've been neglecting it lately)
Memories of You = best Persona song EVER!!!
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