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brihanna25 [2015-07-08 16:38:23 +0000 UTC]

I'm just gonna go out and say it!
Yaoi = it's not proof that you support homosexuals, you just like seeing 2 guys fuck

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ChaoticDarkAngel [2013-04-26 23:17:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh so true indeed. I don't think those that simply dislike yaoi or yuri are homophobics but the ones that go on and on and on about how yaoi and yuri ruin fandoms? Well....kind of iffy on that but I just don't think it sounds very nice. Does a fan making a FICTIONAL CHARACTER gay or lesbian or bi-sexual really bother those haters that much? Pretty pathetic if it does.

I've seen some yaoi pairings that I don't get at all and this is coming from a fan XD But am I going to stomp up to RoyEd or SebCiel fans and tell them 'Your stupid pairings are ruining FMA and Kuroshitsuji for me, stop pairing these two together!!' No I'm not because I know better then to tell someone that. Got better things to do anyway.

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Gray-Rose [2012-05-05 22:00:13 +0000 UTC]

I so agree with this. Slashing will not change the way the character really is. No fan portrayal does.

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MauEvig [2012-02-14 00:42:08 +0000 UTC]

It does get old and annoying after a while, but I think you're going a tad bit too far when you say it makes people homophobic.

I'm sick of yaoi. I used to be into it, until a friend of mine made every single character in every single series gay. (except the females...wtf? Oh wait...she did make a FEW lesbien characters...nvm!)

Anyway, she made me not like Yu Yu Hakusho anymore because she made all the characters in that gay too. I had enough of it and started not liking Yaoi anymore. I never quite liked Yuri.

But, I don't MIND gay couples I've just had enough of seeing them anywhere and everywhere. It gets old. But I do in fact support gays and lesbiens. Love is love no matter what, but just because I'm sick of yaoi and don't want to see it everywhere I go doesn't make me homophobic.

Then again, it could be because people got waaaay too crazy about it and pushed me away.

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kakuume [2012-02-05 16:32:02 +0000 UTC]

god i love you for making this stamp that's just exactly how i feel about thos rude ppl who comment stuff like that, but i can't say something against it because i "wouldn't respect their oppinions" or i would n't even be heard cuz i'm hust a "crazy, brainless yaoi fangilr" >___< gaah this makes me so sick!!!! i hope that these haters will read this and finally understand these stuffs

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Kaioh-the-PureMage [2011-09-29 21:18:14 +0000 UTC]

I disagree. I'm a gay man, so I know what's homophobic, and saying that yaoi ruins lives, though a hyperbole, isn't homophobia. If you ask me, it does mess up certain peoples concepts of homosexuality by it's inaccurate portrayals of gay men, not to the point of ruining their life, but to the point where they could be extremely offensive to real gay men.

You don't know how badly I want to use a shotgun on a yaoi fangirl when they go up to me and ask me if I'm an uke or seme, that's offensive.

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GoggleMaster01 [2011-07-31 11:10:52 +0000 UTC]

Good points, and I like how you don't "spel liek tis". But now I think I'd like to clarify on what we mean by "it hurts fandoms and characters".
The "don't like, don't look" argument is invalid if it's on every page of dA for everything you search. Some people feel squeamish about seeing yaoi or het erotica on every page. And yes, some of it isn't blocked properly, so we see it even if we don't want to. So, they stop searching. Other people get hounded for NOT supporting the yaoi pairing and get driven away because of "fantardwhinebitchyoucanthaveanopinion". That's what we mean by "it hurts fandoms".
"It hurts characters" because most yaoi pairings are split into the "Seme" and "Uke" stereotypes. A character's personality is changed to fit that stereotype, making them behave in ways they normally wouldn't. Same thing can happen in any pairing, not just yaoi. Het pairings are full of character derailment just for the sake of the pairing, and I treat both abusive yaoi and abusive het with the same prejudice. Plus, I feel for these characters. One of them even helped me through a very hard time. To see that character behaving in ways he shouldn't, for yaoi or het, hurts.
I know I can't make the yaoi go away. Yeah, I do have a lot of "it killed my childhood" stuff in my favorites (found my first yaoi site at age eleven...). But I will stand against het pairings that hurt "characters and fandoms" as well. It's the bad yaoi fangirls who bitch and whine about it and make others feel unwelcome that hurts fandoms. It's turning characters into lovey dovey stereotypes that hurts characters. That's why we say "it kills our childhood", which, now that you mention it, may be a little extreme. But I'd stand against a het pairing with the same prejudice. If I said this about only yaoi pairings, THEN you could call me a homophobe.
There, I've said my piece. I'm done here. Flames will be used to roast marshmallows and make s'mores. If the less sane people click the irresistible link to my page and flame me there, I will block them. Thank you!

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Luffy-Kun [2011-06-18 19:33:31 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree.

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Joosh-Face [2010-12-06 06:54:40 +0000 UTC]

Well it's an old pic, but I'm looking up old pictures.
Anyway, to me, it kind of does ruin the characters. It's kind of hard to not think of two dudes doing stuff when you see it in fanart then play the game. That also goes for straight couples that don't belong, or lesbian couples too.

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Arcticwaters [2010-08-03 03:54:07 +0000 UTC]

I definitely agree, but generally, when I hear people say "ruining my childhood" and things like that, I tend to think they're referring less to "OMG GAY! rage" and more to changing "obviously" straight characters into gay characters. I get this; it goes against what people believe the creators wanted and they don't take kindly to it. I understand that.

But I kinda think that in cases like that, people are just assuming that everything's black and white. That us "crazy yaoi/yuri fangirls" are turning 100% straight characters into 100% gay characters. I don't believe sexuality is black and white at all; there's no such thing as 100% especially in fiction. I know when I pair up two guys, I never claim that they are no longer interested in females and now only interested in men. If anything, it's one guy. Like, "straight but not narrow" kind of thing. It happens, I've seen it.

Obviously I'm not saying all people who don't like yaoi/whatever think that, but I feel that might be an underlying issue for some. My thoughts on this are, you know, regardless on your opinion on love, when its right or wrong, people fall in love with different kinds of people and genders all the time; the real world is greyscaled, why can't fiction be?

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matskiuchiha [2010-08-02 17:00:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes. I am pro-yaoi, and respect those who don't like it. But when people say 'it ruins blah blah blah' I get pissed. So yeah, great stamp

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elizarush [2010-07-21 15:59:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes! I totally agree with this stamp!:nodt: It sucks to bump into stamps/comments/stuff that say things like you mentioned and then "but oh, I'm not homophobic." well things aren't black and white, yaoi and homosexuality might confuse people and erotic stuff can be quite nasty to see whatever it was about.:/ sometimes it's not about homophobia - but it's that when people take it too seriously and it "ruins their childhood".>_>
But anyway, so cool I'm faving this.=3

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