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Description Hello all! It's Genetics Obsessed Leafy here!
Here to talk to you all on my version of the rant on Blue Eyed Warrior OCs!

Recently I've been seeing some videos of people literally calling those interested in genetics dweebs, or annoying or kill joys because they like genetically accurate cats.
And, as some of you may know, I LOVE genetics
And, I HATE blue eyes!

Now, let's talk about some arguments I've seen regarding why Blue Eyes on the Warriors Characters are 'Okay'

'They're blue in canon!'
Yeah, you know what else is canon? Cats having heaven and hell. Having a form of medicine, having formed a society in which they care for each other. Cats forming relationships based on love (only having monogamous relationships.)

Cats don't believe in an afterlife. They believe in life today. Cats have literally no idea what plants are safe, and what are toxic. They will eat what kills them if they want to. They don't form relationships based in love. If a female is in heat, she will mate with each and every male cat she finds. Creating a litter of cats with multiple fathers. Cats in nature are extremely solitary, and while they can tolerate other cats, most WILD cats prefer to live alone. That's just how cats are, and they're completely different than canon.

'My cat is black with Blue eyes! Not pure white!'
Referring to when people literally pretend they know what they're talking about when dealing with genetics.
It always shows a picture of a Colorpoint cat. They use this to refer to Scourge, Hawkfrost, etc. saying that just because they have a dark colored cat with blue eyes, that they can obviously give blue eyes to any cat.

You most likely have a Colorpoint cat. Want to know how to check? If the arms/paws, tail, face, and ears are darker than the body, you have a Colorpoint.
How does that make a difference? Colorpoint is linked to the ALBINO gene.
What does the Albino gene do? It removes pigment. Removing all the color in the cats eyes, reverting them back to their base color of blue. So no, you don't naturally have a black cat with blue eyes. You have a dark Colorpoint, expressing its Albino genes.

'There's a breed of black cats with blue eyes!'
Referring to the Ojos Azules. Literally meaning 'Blue Eyes!' In which the cat can come in a wide variety of colors, not white, and still have blue eyes.

This is a BREED being WORKED ON. I believe it is in Spain (if I remember correctly) it started with some strays that had blue eyes, and it ended up being a project to selectively breed blue eyed cats with less and less white on them.
It is not an official breed.
Meaning?
There is no way in hell, any wild inbred cat from Warriors is going to pop up and be an Ojos Azules. It is a breed.
Being worked on. It is not a color, or pattern that would be common to find in a bunch of feral cats.
Also, keep in mind that this breed probably is going through lots of inbreeding, and line breeding with proper genetics testing. Something the Warriors world isn't going to pay attention to, encaustic they form relationships based on love, not genetics.

'Jayfeather is blind! Blue eyes mean Blind!'
The quote speaks for itself.

It took literally minutes for me to google how to tell if a cat is blind. No, blue eyes do not mean blind.
Want to know what does? Redness, swelling, a cloudy pupil, and squinting. REDNESS. NOT BLUE
BLUE EYES DO NOT MEAN BLIND. Even if the cat ends up contracting Cataracts in their old age, still doesn't mean they will have blue eyes.
Literally no injury, or health issue will turn an eye blue. Sorry.

'There's cats in the books described as having pink fur! So my character can have blue eyes!'
I think referring to the one leader from Tallstar's revenge? And others too I'm sure, referred to as having Pinkish Gray fur. Also adding in the cats with blueish gray, or blue fur.

Now, let's talk about gray.
Gray is a neutral color. Meaning if you add a touch of color, it gives a different feel. If you add a touch of blue, if makes it a Cool Gray. Add more, and it is called Slate Gray. Add a touch of red, and you'll get the warm pink color, called Warm Gray. In Wild cats it doesn't surprise me to have gray cats of different shades. Some might be warmer, some cooler, and that's fine. Another color that could be seen as a Pinkish Gray, is probably Dilute Cinnamon, which has a dusty rose look. Getting the Pinkish graycolor acriss very well.
And you know what, what's GENETICALLY POSSIBLE.

'But one parent has blue eyes, so a kit must as well!'
I'm... not sure where this came from? I think people use it to justify their incorrect genetics when designing kits.

Eye color is not hereditary.
EYE COLOR IS NOT HEREDITARY.
Eye color is linked to COAT COLOR and FUR PATTERN.
meaning neither parent can be Blue Eyed, and they can have a Colorpoint kitten, who has blue eyes. Parents eye colors literally have nothing to do with what color the kits eyes will be.

'It's a fake universe, they don't follow the same genetics as ours'
Okay, I saw this on a video when I was at work, and I couldn't find it when I was on break?
If this is a fake universe, everything science has done so far in the genetics world is obviously null and void. Because it doesn't matter, because it's fiction. All the 'genetics dweebs' need to let people have fun p, because it's not a real cat.

I do agree, it's fiction.
But let me be fucking clear, if us 'genetics dweebs' need to let all you whiners have fun,
Then you need to let us have fun.
If I want to spend my days redesigning all 500 of the Warriors characters into more genetically realistic designs, LET ME HAVE FUN.
If you what to bitch and moan about how it bugs you, and you don't like that I redesign all the characters with different eye colors, that's you're deal.
Do NOT blame everyone who wants to have fun, and make genetically realistic designs for the Warriors Characters.
Because you're freight, let people have fun.
And that means all us 'Genetics Dweebs'

And NO
I'm not saying that because you don't follow genetics your designs are automatically bad.
I'm not saying that if you follow the canon designs, you're designs are bad
Im not saying that if you want to design a green cat with pink hair, that it's a bad design.

I'm just saying, that I want to design genetically realistic Warriors, and I should not be getting yelled at for it.
I don't go around yelling at people because they have a cat with a yellow and a red eye.
I don't get mad at people who have cats with 1 folded ear, and I don't get mad at peop,e who have cis male Torties.

That is all your business. I like genetically realistic designs, so that's what I'm going to CONTINUE to do.
And no amount of rant videos, or name calling, or yelling st me is going to change my mind.
Because we all deserve to have fun right?
So let the genetics nuts have fun. Let people have black cats with purple eyes, let people change eyes colors to be more realistic

FOLLOW YOUR OWN FUCKING ADVICE AND KET PEOPLE HAVE FUN






If you have a question, I can answer if I can.
No, I'm not 100% in my genetics, I do make mistakes, as I'm still learning, but genetics aren't fucking rocket science. It's basic rule of Dominate, and Recessive, and how the color genes work with the pattern genes.
It's not hard, and it's NOT only applied to Purebred cats! It's the same for ANY cat. The only thing that would be different is the added Agouti gene, which isn't present in a lot of Purebred cats, due to it not being a standardized trait for certain breeds.
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Comments: 42

AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 01:52:48 +0000 UTC]

Their is something i see on Garfield show and it was 100% ungenetically realist. Seriously... Orange and Green Heterochromia?! Sorry, but even if it's beautiful... well that's totally impossible.Β 

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 13:16:57 +0000 UTC]

I think Orange Green is genetically possible?
I've seen it before I'm pretty sure, I think it's in my book. Under the Japanese Bobtail breed page?
The yellow from the orange ends up covering the blue eye incompletley, which give it a transparent yellow filter, instead of a solid yellow/orange. Which visually turns a blue eye green.

Since all eyes are blue beneath the color.

I can't remember for sure, I was supposed to look for my book before responding, but I completely forgot

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 23:05:23 +0000 UTC]

Yes. But it only LOOK green. But it's actually not. Like my cat Sissi who have yellow and green heterochromia. but green is a ''dilued'' blue.Β 
So, yes, sort of. but that's still very rare.

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 23:08:01 +0000 UTC]

Visually green, and Genetically Blue!

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 23:09:06 +0000 UTC]

yes! so THAT'S totally cool genetics (one of my favorite)

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 23:10:28 +0000 UTC]

Yup yup! Rare and unique, but possible!

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 23:11:44 +0000 UTC]

sometime i made meme of AF univers. And their was and ''cat specialist'' meme

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AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 01:49:20 +0000 UTC]

cis male tortie?! OMG! *panic of cats specialist*

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 13:14:14 +0000 UTC]

Lol

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AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 01:47:22 +0000 UTC]

YES! PLEASE REDESING ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THEM SOOOOO MUCH!

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 13:18:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm in the process XD
I used to have a few sheets of Shadow clan in which I had all of the genetically possible colors of the Shadow clan cats, but I lost the sheet.

And I'm still tinkering with genetics as well, since I'm learning everyday lol

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AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 01:46:35 +0000 UTC]

UWU i feel exited with you fighting these! I hate blue eyes too. Their dumb, not even beautiful, and overapprecied in EVERYTHING, especially warrior cats. And, fiction can follow genetics. Like AF univers (my books) i add my favorite genetics things to it. and, know what? No blue eyes! Exept on points or gods (who don't follow gentics)

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 13:17:50 +0000 UTC]

Totally over appreciated.
I find Copper and Hazel eyes MUCH more appealing

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 23:07:33 +0000 UTC]

Rufus have hazel eyes. And Shadow is copper.Β 

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 23:09:50 +0000 UTC]

I've got 2 Colorpoint Blues (one a Lilac Blue) a Copper, and a Yellow-Green
(colorpoints are Loch Ness 'Nessie' and Thor. Copper is Mothman 'Mothie' and Yellow-Green is Loki)

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 23:10:45 +0000 UTC]

cute!

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AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 01:44:02 +0000 UTC]

Are you kidding? This cat is THE EXACT copy of the U-cat Zokan if you flip it horizontaly! i wonder if you could because i would love to add it to AF univers group as Zokan. I can doe something (like art) in echange of you make him Zokan if you want to

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 02:29:04 +0000 UTC]

This is an older drawing of Nightstar, she's been through a few redesigns, but I feel this one works

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 03:17:10 +0000 UTC]

oh ok. i don't feel like steel a drawing who already is a character

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leafstep In reply to AFuniversCat [2019-09-27 13:12:20 +0000 UTC]

Most of the drawings I have are either OCs (mine or another's) Adopts, or Canon Characters.
I very Rarely draw designs that belong to no one lol

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AFuniversCat In reply to leafstep [2019-09-27 23:06:11 +0000 UTC]

Like me. 99% drawings are from AF univers books

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InkyLynxMage [2019-08-22 10:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, this along with "Traditional Namers are huge jerks" are the two biggest fandom niche misconceptions imo.

I remember seeing TennelleFlower's video on her cis male calico OCs Wildfur and Patchpaw a while ago and she said, "In my honest opinion, I don't think that [Wild and Patch being cis male calicos] should matter at all in the world of Warriors and if you do, you're just kind of being a gatekeeping elitist prick because the books obviously don't care."
Wow, Pot, nice you've met Kettle. Hope those strong words didn't give you an anurysm.

I, as a person who likes order, learned cat genetics so I can properly give cat characters (mainly warriors) accurate appearances. A similar argument can be made for Traditional Naming, but that's more of a geographical and cultural thing instead of a scientific thing. Both are problems in the Warriors' world that a lot of fans are quick to defend, especially the louder ones and the famous ones like Tennelle (inaccurate genetics) and Moonkitti (nonsensical names).

And Good Freaking StarClan on a Moonlit Night, they would probably have that anurysm if they learned I made a genetically accurate, traditionally named warriors AU (with a few other AUs thrown in there). For being such influential members of the fandom, they don't seem to understand we like these things for personal enjoyment more often than not and don't enforce it upon others. Sure, there's the occasional jerk, but it's not as big as they make it out to be.

Heck, I just talked about how I've built my fanclans to another fan and she understands why I like it and even wants to try it out. Is she now a "gatekeeping elitist prick" for not having a cis calico tom? For only restricting blue eyes to white or mostly white cats? For having her names mean something?

Thanks for this, bud. You've just earned yourself a watcher.

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leafstep In reply to InkyLynxMage [2019-08-25 02:44:46 +0000 UTC]

The whole reason I no longer support TennelleFlowers is because she dissed the whole entire group of people who like genetics.
Its so rude and offensive!

Like, I can totally understand not liking Genetics, that's fine, but don't be putting so many people down, and insulting their interests just because you don't like it.

Like, I LOVE genetics, but I'm not gonna go on someone else's page, or deviation that has improper genetics and belittle them for it??
Thats very obviously none of my business, and if they like it, then good for them.

i dislike Cis Male Torties because it erases the idea of being Trans from the universe, which is really upsetting. And even realistically, only 1 in 3000 Torties will be male.
and they will be Sterile. So if a Tortie to, has kits,I automatically make them Trans, because that honestly the only way it makes sense to me?

i have 1 Cis Male Tortie Headcanon, and that's Sol.
while there isn't 3000 Torties in the Warriors Universe yet, I do think Sol being a Cis Male Tortie fits with his character, as he's supposed to Be unique, and one of a kind. Plus, he doesn't have Kits. So it works out.

I don't really have an opinion on the Naming, tho I do prefer to use prefixes and suffixes that have been used in the books. Like, I don't think I wouldn't ever name an OC Koipaw or something, or Guppypaw, but cause even tho they most likely have encountered them, they have never been used as a name, so I wouldn't use it.

But I'm not gonna shoot someone down just because they have a Guppypaw. It's just not my thing, and I'll leave it at that.

Which is how it should be. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have to belittle it. Just leave it be, because they're not hurting anyone.

and I totally do wish they realized that their words have meaning due to their fan base. Especially when they start belittling things that others love. There's no reason for that.

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InkyLynxMage In reply to leafstep [2019-08-25 03:37:46 +0000 UTC]

I still watch her occasionally, mostly when I have nothing better to watch or a movie she's reviewing seems interesting, but I'm not subscribed to her. Nor would I consider giving her money on Patreon.

An interesting headcanon. I'm a simple person, so I just make torties whichever color they are mostly: Redtail red and white, Spiderleg black, Patchkit red and white, etc. Same with Sol, gold and white.

TN prefixes is based on the environment of the clans and aims to give a succinct description of the cat. In the southern England region the Forest Territories are in, white cats can be named Snow, White, and Cloud, but also based off local flora and fauna, like Hemlock, Privet, and Mistletoe.

Suffixes indicate skills, personality, or recognize the cat as competent enough to graduate. In my Mega Warriors AU, Fernsong is changed to Asphodelthroat, meaning "gold cat skilled in orating". (I haven't read past BS's Storm, so idk much about him.) I also have a wider collection of suffixes in another one, all given meanings. -berry, -root, and -seed mean the same thing as -leaf, "skilled in healing".

I like this because it gives a sense of culture in the naming department, and it makes sense they'd only name cats based off things they see. Like what does Pouncekit or Flipkit mean? They could get less bouncy... I know it isn't canon, but it makes me happy. I won't force anyone to adhere to it, but I will at least ask of someone some empathy for why I like this.

And yeah, cat YTers need to understand the power their words have. Two have already stepped on others' preferences and the others don't seem to care or haven't spoken their opinions.

Btw, I'm gonna be releasing some family trees soon of the AU. If you have the time, could you check the genetics? You don't have to, I'd just like a second opinion.

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leafstep In reply to InkyLynxMage [2019-08-27 20:36:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry from the late reply, I've been having issues at work that's been stressing my out!

I don't ever like watching her videos, it always reminds me on how she basically insulted my likes XD I ended up unwatching, unfollowing, and unsubscribbing to a lot of her accounts.
Like, I really do understand if someone doesn't like genetics, but don't go insulting them.

I've never thought of a Gold and White Sol! I made him my Cis Male Tortie. (I cant remember if I mentioned that before, I'm sorry if I'm repeating!) I have different headcanon for Redtail, sometimes i want him Trans, and sometimes I like him as a Van marked Red Tabby. It really depends on the mood I guess, and who/what the situation is, because I love both, and both are genetically Possible!

Lol, I forgot Flip and Pounce existed XD
I do like all the Names that fit the territory. In mine I try to stick to things that are similar?
Shadow clan would use names like Frog, Toad, Lizard
River clan would have Minnow, Trout, Shell,
Thunderclan has Squirrel, probably a bunch of Tree Prefixes as well.
Windclan gets Hare, Rabbit, Heather,
Things that are commonly found in certain territories, but not in others.
So those names for me, would only be for those clans.
I don't think I currently have a Rabbit in a clan that's not Windclan. Or a Lizard in a clan that's not Shadowclan, but I'd have to recheck before I confirm of course.

Lol, that's so sad! To be named for your personality as a kit, and end up growing out of it!
I do have 3 cats named after personality, Softclaw, Whisperclaw, and Quietpaw.
Softclaw was originally named for his fur, that was oddly soft and silky for a kit, but as he got older, his personality is why most think the Soft refers to.
Whisperclaw had an injury that caused his voice to become hoarse when he speaks. So he ejther, doesnt, or speaks in a whisper.
And Quietpaw was named Darkkit, but her timid personality is what made the leader give her the apprentice name of Quietpaw. Which, I might end up switching depending on how I have her character develop.

I'm totally game to look at genetics if you still would like another set of eyes!

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InkyLynxMage In reply to leafstep [2019-08-28 03:51:36 +0000 UTC]

Ah, you're cool. I'm not itching for a response. Take your time.


I hope to talk with her sometime about it. She doesn't seem like a bad person, but I'd like to get her insights on why she insulted genetics fans.


Well, Sol just means sun and it's gold, so I thought a primarily gold and white Sol would be particularly beautiful. Heck, he could even be a red and white with gold shading. Just to capture that "sun" theme and make him stand out from other cats.


I think you misunderstand. Yeah, certain names are very much a certain clan's feel, like fish names are very much Riverclan and shrubs (Bramble, Briar, etc) are very much Thunderclan, but I'm saying certain prefixes wouldn't exist at all because of the Southern England setting Warriors originally had. Like Hawkfrost, Hawkwing, and Hawkheart would have to be renamed because hawks aren't in that region. Same for Cinnamon, Hickory, Lynx, Olive, Myrtle, and Violet. They're not found in the Southern England wilds.


Yeah, this is why in my AU, clan culture has developed the color+trait naming scheme. Personality is a trait, so it'd be confined to the suffix. So the Three in my AU are Lionclaw "gold cat skilled at fighting", Crowheart "black cat with strong morals", and Juniperstorm "gray tabby with a temper".

And Whisperclaw reminded me of a common thing in TN. Cats who sustained an injury 1) have the choice to change their name, and 2) if they do, it's an honor of being able to live despite your current situation. It's not shameful, it's honorable.


Sure! I'll get the rest of the family trees uploaded in a bit. Again, take your time; I'm in no rush. Thanks for looking 'em over!

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BlackestQueen [2019-05-13 13:43:45 +0000 UTC]

God I love to read your genetic stuff. I'm a biggie for it most of times although I do have some unrealisticness in my characters but that's what I keep to try minimal!

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leafstep In reply to BlackestQueen [2019-05-13 17:07:03 +0000 UTC]

I just really like realism, and genetics! Leafy isn't super genetically possible, but I still like genetics?
And I get yelled at XD

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sleepyf0x [2019-05-13 12:31:28 +0000 UTC]

I entirely agree with this! I understand people who don't follow genetics when making their OCs, but they shouldn't criticize people who like sticking to genetics for their headcanons and designs. A lot of the time stuff like that can be super unique and interesting, like your ginger Jayfeather design. People really should just let other people have fun and let them do what they want with OC and canon designs. You shouldn't be getting yelled at, and I'm sorry you've had to deal with that.

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leafstep In reply to sleepyf0x [2019-05-13 17:09:33 +0000 UTC]

Exactly!
Just because I'm not a fan of botched genetics, doesn't mean everyone has to side with me that's all I'm saying!
I really don't care if other people want to have every cat have blue eyes, that's them.

If it's not interesting for you to draw, why continue to draw it?

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sleepyf0x In reply to leafstep [2019-05-13 18:01:00 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! Some people don't understand that people are allowed to like things, even if they don't personally care for it.

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leafstep In reply to sleepyf0x [2019-05-13 23:16:37 +0000 UTC]

Exactly!
Let everyone have fun!
Not just certain ones

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Lune-Cider [2019-05-13 08:17:48 +0000 UTC]

i don't mind if people want to go cannon or not. it's what makes them happy and people shouldn't stop that. it's always cool to see someone be outside of the box

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leafstep In reply to Lune-Cider [2019-05-13 17:11:45 +0000 UTC]

That's what I think.

I like genetics, so I design genetically possible cats.

Some people like certain aesthetics, and design based on that.

Both designs are good, both designs have meaning, and both are valid. They're just 2 different preferences in designs, and people shouldn't be making ranting videos about it on YouTube XD (and I guess a rant deviation on DA XD)

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Lune-Cider In reply to leafstep [2019-05-13 21:06:58 +0000 UTC]

anyway i still think everyone's designs are great. Yours are really good too X3

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leafstep In reply to Lune-Cider [2019-05-13 23:16:00 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! Everyone makes such beautiful designs, it's a shame some people are being rude about it

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Lune-Cider In reply to leafstep [2019-05-14 04:13:36 +0000 UTC]

Just rant to a friend then the whole world about someone wanting to be outside the box with designs

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Swiftstar01 In reply to leafstep [2019-05-13 20:36:55 +0000 UTC]

I agree 100%!Β 
People need to learn to take a chill pill. If someone wants to follow true genetics, let them. If someone wants to create canon colored cats, let them. Its called β€œexpression.” 
The Jayfeather comment killed me! Its common to β€œgrey” out eyes if a cat is blind since its easier to notice visually when working on a comic platform.
Blue eyes is a pretty color (my oc is prime example lol) but I use it as sparingly as I can.Β 
I never heard about the spanish cats before. A lot of breeds have come and gone, even got names changed (the Himalayan cat is no longer a breed but a fur pattern for the Pursian?)Β 
i agree with the greys too. I have seen feral grey cats with different hues of grey and its amazing.Β 

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leafstep In reply to Swiftstar01 [2019-05-13 23:31:34 +0000 UTC]

That's my whole issue, just let people do what they want, sheesh XD

And of course I get that it's easier to make a simple edit such as white eyes to symbolize blindness. but using the excuse of blindness to justify blue eyes is nonsense, lol.
Just say you like him with blue eyes XD

I like green and copper? Especially copper on a darker gray cat, it makes the eyes pop!

They're still in the works! They're goal is solid black with blue eyes, so it's a specific breed with a specific trait. In the video I listen to, they were using this breed to justify a bunch of strays having blue eyes.

I think the Himalayan is now categorized as a Sub-Breed, just due to its coloring? But I didn't know they were the same! I always though Himis had less of a smooshed face than Persians? You learn something everyday!

Gray is such a fun color to work with! Depending on eye color as well, it can make the appearance of the fur look different!

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Swiftstar01 In reply to leafstep [2019-05-14 04:33:40 +0000 UTC]

XD

Copper is a very pretty color!

That's pretty cool! These cats would be interesting!

I think so too. I believe they got the pattern from the Siamese. But that was from Wiki.

Grey is indeed pretty! I like the bi-color grey and white (cause my eldest is one XD)

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leafstep In reply to Swiftstar01 [2019-05-15 12:43:15 +0000 UTC]

My dream is a Bi Color Gray XD (I have a Gray Smoke Tabby, and had a Dilute Tortie Kitten in the past)

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Swiftstar01 In reply to leafstep [2019-05-16 02:40:19 +0000 UTC]

They are very pretty! Especially Thier pink nose and beans!

My grandmother had a dilute tortie. She was pretty but a bit mean XD

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