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[EDIT] Also... could someone explain me how can the FBI take the control over a website which is all over the whole world? Piracy and Copyright violations are not the same; it all depends of the country. Not to add that MegaUpload had it's settlement in HONG KONG (China) and Kim "Dotcom" lived in NEW ZELAND.
I... I seriously don't get it.
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Well... thank you everybody for your replies in my last journal entry. I was really confused about the MegaUpload thingy but, even the FBI being suspicious with their actions, fortunately that was nothing to do with SOPA or PIPA or whatever. It's suppossed to be a "normal" report about online piracy.
However, I must disagree with that aspect.
I life in Spain, ok? Yeah, that awful country just for "bullfighting, siestas and tomato fiestas". Culture here is LAME, RIDICULOUS, VULGAR and extremetly DUMMY. Normal TV sucks like hell (it's most over about soap operas, gossip programs, bad movies/series, and sadistic news. Of course, there are a few exceptions), unless you pay for "interesting" channels (something which latelly is starting to be too expensive for me and my family).
Cinemas are only decent in the capital and some other big cities. They're still ridicously expensive (I remember when I was younger I could go to theatres just for 3 USD!!! T_T), even if you don't want to watch movies in 3D or HD. YOU CAN'T SPEND LIKE 13 WEEKLY USD IF YOU WANNA WATCH A MOVIE. Not to add most of movies I'm interested in NEVER will be aired here (many European independent movies, Japanese animes, Chinesse action films...). Just super-productions, silly box-office movies (of course, with exceptions too).
Same goes for music and DVD series/movies. Most of music I like will never be released here. Most of movies I love will never be released here. And I can't buy most of movies online because I want movies at least with Spanish subs. If they're not released in Spain (or Centre-South America), it's hard to find Spanish subs. Music it's easier, but if I have to pay for the shipping, the price increases too much and I can't handle it. There's also the risk of customers assistants which force you to pay sometimes around 50USD. So, definitely, NO.
And of course, this is also applied to books, comics, novels and that stuff. Only the 5% of the anime/manga you can see on Internet gets licensed here. I sometimes buy comics/books released in English, but we have the same case of before: The fucking shipping (excepting e-books, of course, but I honestly prefer paperbacks).
I don't want to watch what the government want me to watch. I won't hear just commercial music they release here. I won't buy what they want me to buy. And as a citizen in freedom, I hardly ever go to the cinema or buy CDs/DVDs and never turn on the TV but my computer. Then, I start downloading or watching online stuff.
So, HERE IS MY WORLD. HERE ARE MY TASTES, THE THINGS I REALLY WANT FOR MYSELF.
If it wasn't thanks to Internet, I would never have bought ORIGINAL CDs from groups I never listened before. I would never have gone to their concerts because I would never have known them. I wouldn't have bought awesome movies, released here into DVDs, but never aired in Spanish theatres (I have no chance to watch them before buying).
I won't buy stuff if I don't know if I like it or no (risks are not my thing, sorry, I spent too much money in the past due to them). If something gets my attention but I'm not sure if I'll like it or not, I won't buy it for sure.
MegaUpload was closed because of illegal distributions and a bunch of things about piracy and bla bla bla... ok, I can understand it.
But, you know? I'm an artist myself and, of course, I would be stupid if I woudln't support Intellectual Properties, Copyright and that stuff. But I also understand that, my published artwork, will never be published ALL OVER THE WORLD. So people outside the place I'm publishing would never know about me if it wasn't thanks to Internet. As you know, many artists as well supported MegaUpload because it was their source to get KNOWN by the world.
Who are the ones that reported MegaUpload them?... PUBLISHERS AND RECORD COMPANIES, NOT THE ARTISTS THEMSELVES. And why? Because ONLY PUBLISHERS AND RECORD COMPANIES WERE DAMAGED BY THIS KIND OF "PIRACY".
Ok, then, why don't PUBLISHERS AND RECORD COMPANIES CREATE A WEBSITE LIKE MEGAUPLOAD to share their stuff if you pay a little fee INSTEAD OF 20USD OR MORE FOR ONE ALBUM OR BOOK?... Those suppossed 500,000 million of USDs that Kim "Dotcom" and his company "stole" could have be earnt by publishers and record companies if they were the ones that created the site.
Of course, I'm not pretending that Kim "Dotcom" and his team were like martyrs or something. I'm pretty sure they used the money for bad purposes and created a kind of "mafia". BUT ALSO CORRUPTED POLITICIANS, JUDGES, LAWYERS ARE THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME COMMITING FRAUDS, AND THEY'RE NOT JUDGED UNDER A THREAT OF 50 YEARS IN PRISON. THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN 100% FREEDOM.
As I've read around Twitter... they close MegaUpload because it was hosting illegal content. Why don't they close as well BANKS which are hosting money from the TAX EVASIONS???...
SO DON'T FUCK ME WITH CONSPIRACIES, COPYRIGHT ISSUES AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES, FBI. WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT ACTUAL PROBLEMS LIKE THOSE CASES OF CORRUPTION, TAX EVASIONS, DRUGS AND "PHYSICAL" CRIMINALS (THIEVES, MURDERS, ETC)????...
PARANOIDS. That's the way to describe them.
While watching films, I really respected FBI members. Now, I think they'll be the "villains" in next movies. At least for me.
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Don't bother to change my mind. I'll accept new information and possible mistakes I wrote here, but I really won't read comments like "WE ALL AMERICANS WILL SAVE THE WORLD FROM THE PIRACY" or "FBI ARE HEROES". Is that your opinion? Ok, then don't tell me because this is MY page.
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If the servers started out in the US the FBI just need to shut down that server and there you go, it's gone. Welcome to a Nazi internet...
Seriously, I'm worried that we're going to wind up not able to even talk to other people, without governments saying "no you can't."
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I also find it ironic that when someone rips your artwork, you go on a hunt and when this popular site is brought down for the same and worse, you are up in arms about it.
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The difference is when somebody steals my art, they claim it as if they were the authors. If not, I just ask them to take it down because that's not the use for deviantART. It's not a "sharing hosting" like MegaUpload.
Also, it's not like I press charges on them or something like that XD I just think it's offensive to claim authory over a work that they didn't do.
People that share files in the net through MegaUpuload, FileServe, and those hostings, are not claiming authory. So, your comparation is not valid in this case in my opinion :-/
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Ib your opinion. They were still sharing those files and depriving People of income.
Independant Artists like you and me, artists WITHOUT the big companies to back them up. Megaupload has failed to action takedown requests in a timely fashion. It's like the guy that takes and sells your work as their own.
Because that's what he was doing too according to the Indictment.
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They didn't sale files D= It was free. They only asked for "payment" if you were stupid enough to pay for a premium membership in MegaUpload and download illegal stuff there.
They didn't "sale" files as their normal price, but by a monthly fee (or for year, I don't really know), which makes things way cheaper than if you buy them legally. Companies should then start to report files, the ones they can, and start putting DECENT prices in their stuff if they want people to buy them legally. That should make everyone happy.
Also, it's not like the best time to care about piracy, c'mon... as if that would solve the huge economical crisis all over the world LOL Anyway, end of this discussion XD I don't wanna talk anymore about this subject, I already gave my opinion and you gave me yours, we differ, so what's up in doing this? ^^U
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International Cooperation.
And it is not just Egregious Copyright Violations.
It is also RICO charges of Money Laundering and Rackteering. The CEO has a rap sheet from the 90s for fraud, hacking and other crimes. He loved to thumb his nose at people.
What was worse was the way her failed to action take down notices. I'm not talking about one from the MPA or the RIAA. I'm talking about takedown notices from guys like you and me. There are a number of 3d merchants that have had to fight just to get Megauploads to comply. And even then, it was just removing the links. He was apparently redistributing and helping others do the same.
So while everyone wants to cry out censorship, there is a group of little people glad he has been stopped. It's just a small salvo in the war against Warez.
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Más información sobre ACTA, por si quieres compartirla:
Anti-SOPA Blackout Day- Say NO to ACTA: [link]
Di NO a ACTA. Entérate de lo que pasa y pasará! NO HAGAMOS QUE SE HAGA REALIDAD: [link]
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~I found more interesting videos...
MegaUpload Dangerous Secrets affect YOU, Mike Mozart JeepersMedia ACTA / PIPA / SOPA JeepersMedia
[link]
Google Using SOPA-Like Censorship
[link]
S.O.P.A Cat (Nyan cat censored)
[link]
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Man this stuff is weird.. but i will seriously miss Megaupload..
OMG!! im missing an arm!
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It may not be SOPA/PIPA related, but make no mistake, it IS publisher-, MPAA-, and RCAA-enforced artificial scarcity, in place to keep their products' prices at pre-internet levels. Yes, it is America policing the world to soothe its worries that it's no longer respected as the most powerful country in the world. And yes, 99% of our government is bought and paid for by corporations, who as you know had to be placated somehow after the politicians failed to pass the SOPA/PIPA bill they were paid to push through. You can see our representatives daily selling out their constituents to the corporations and lobbyists that fund their election campaigns. Congress, the President, even the Supreme Court. That's how SOPA and PIPA were created in the first place; that's how the Supreme Court was allowed to rule that a woman only had 180 days to report pay discrimination (Their contention? The backlog of suits would clog the courts for years if their wasn't such a stringent statute of limitations--they didn't even try to hide the real problem!); that's why Obama didn't let the Bush-era tax cuts expire even though our government desperately needed the revenue to pay for the stimulus spending. You see, in America right now, the civil rights of corporations have subsumed those of the people working for them. Legislation is a corporate commodity and politicians are spokespeople for whatever corporation they have their stocks in. If it doesn't immediately get them impeached or shot, or destroy any reelection bids with 100% certainty, the politicians will push through any bill their corporate sponsors ask for regardless of public knowledge or opinion.
And this is still technically the freest country in the world. What. The. Fuck. I think this is what Marx meant when he said that capitalism would eventually destroy the middle ground it once created between the elites who bought their power and the common laborers. Don't get me wrong, communism is a broken system in its own right; it lacks incentives and depends on there being unrealistically selfless people or an essentially non-existent arbiter with no incentive to hoard what they're supposed to distribute. But capitalism is likewise broken: the scarcity it depends on for establishing monetary values doesn't exist for virtual goods. Once the physical original good is produced, it can be reproduced ad infinitum at no additional cost anywhere in the world where the internet exists. Everyone knows it can be done, expects it to be done, but the corporations who sponsored the original piece cling to the idea that there's money to be made by throttling its reproduction and distribution to keep the price at pre-internet levels. They're run by old farts who don't have the vision or adaptability of Google, Yahoo, Apple, etc, to see that they would not be worse off for doing what the so-called "pirates" of MegaUpload have already done: increasing availability (ergo exposure) and selling their productions at a cost that more closely reflects the nearly nil cost of reproduction. In short, their business model is expired and they're relying on government-enforced life-support.
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Hun, the copyrights are just a cover. Under ACTA, which will be signed by most of EU on 26th, your internet provider can check everything you do on the net, private emails, conversations on msn and such, also your antivirus must send a report on everything you have on your computer.... So seriously, this is a spying allowance, not a copyrights defence. I'm seriously scared. Not that I have a guilty conscience much but what if they decide, for example, that yaoi pictures are against the law? They can. What if they decide our journals are not too nice for them? ACTA gives them rights to consor them. What if they decide to read all my emails?
Besides, life without wikipedia will be difficult and that site is next on the shut down list. Then youtube, ok, can live without youtube, but wikipedia?
Oh, and they will be able to check everything on our facebooks.
And also they must create a special ministry for investigating all those cases they will find, which will cost the budget. Also, we will not know who works in it, who checks our private photos and conversations. What they do with them. It's not like there are angels they can hire, that would not sell those photos or information.
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God... spying you said? I thought I was the only one thinking about it. I told my family about that and they told me I'm getting paranoid.
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That is what ACTA will do. One thing is them controling the internet moevment because there is too much data to control. But another thing is the antiviruses sending reports from our computers. Pretty much everyone has one.
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This wasn't only Berne Convention related. It was also RICO or Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act... aka Organized Crime.
[link]
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At least it isn't SOPA-related, because as far as I was aware that bullshit law wasn't passed yet.
I'm trying to open megaupload as I type this and it won't open. I don't use that website so it isn't bothering me as much.
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It is not, It is Berne Convention and RICO related.
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Essentially it will just be blocked in the country you are in. Just like in North Korea if you try to access any news or social sites it will bring up instead a page that says the "Beloved Ruler Kim Jong Il is protecting you from the evils out in the world" or something like that.
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I completely agree with you 100% especially about living in a country where stuff doesn't get released and TV is crap.. I'm from New Zealand the land of sheep and I wish I was kidding, we get movies/CD's etc from the US after a year and half of it release in America.. AND that's only if its popular over there anyway...
So all the good shows/movies/music of the world, we get none of it! It makes me mad and frustrated to think that this can be taken away that easily and to be stuck with the rubbish that gets imported by some one else's recommendation because it did well in another country!!!
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Sobre el edit, no estoy del todo segura pero creo que es porque al ser ".com" como que el dominio se considera americano:S
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Yep. That really sucks that this could cut us off from so many of the things we love. All because the people who make them are greedy. As if they aren't making enough money on their movies and songs. There will always be someone to buy the items and there will always be people (like me) who wish they could but just CAN NOT afford to; how is it fair to those people to be segregated from the things that interest them because the makers just want to get rich on it?
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SO this guy can get away with ripping of the indie artists across several different media? Because he was also doing that.
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Lehanan, yo soy de Mexico y apenas ayer empezo a correr la voz sobre una nueva manera de protestar contra toda esta intransigencia. Por desgracia, yo no tengo tantos seguidores ni en mi Facebook, twitter ni Tumblr para hacerla llegar a mas personas en el mundo, así que te la dejo a ti esperando que puedas compartirla y correr la voz tambien en tu pais. Te deo un link que lleva hacia esa publicacion en mi Tumblr.
Perdon si recurro a ti en vez de hacer algo mas, pero con mi nivel de popularidad por ahora es lo mejor que se me ocurre. Muchas gracias, espero que esto funcione.
El Link es éste --> [link]
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He oído hablar ya del Marzo Negro en comentarios anteriores. Gracias. Más adelante cuando vaya acercándose la fecha haré otra entrada aquí y por otras webs. Sería hermoso que todos lo hiciéramos, pero confío poco en la gente, si te soy sincera, adicta al consumismo.
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I totally agree. There is alot of movies, music, books, ect that I would have never bought without the internet. There is a bunch of songs I bought off of iTunes, that would never show up on my local radio stations, because I ran across them on YouTube. And as an artist myself, I would be happy if people liked my stuff enough to post them on other sites; for example, I want to write a couple comic books during my life and I would have no problem with them being posted on like MangaFox or something. Heck, I have thought about posting them myself. I want to write and draw stuff people will enjoy and can enjoy even if they donot have the money or live where it's not published. If they buy them, Great! Thanks so much!, if they cannot, than oh, well~ I hope you enjoy anyhow~
Sorry for all of text~ >w>
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I completely agree with you and I'm in the US. It's completely rediculous and frankly I don't think it's even legal. The government is getting some serious backlash over it because they weren't based in the US and the implications it has for users of Megaupload, which makes up 25% of all internet users. The only reason that the FBI could seize the site was because while the company was based in China, the hosting company and servers were in Virginia, US. So they could take over the site, but I don't think they have any right to make any arrests or shut down the company.
There's talk of a protest and boycott in March called Black March. It's a total boycott of the large media companies for an entire month. It's the start of the new fiscal period, so taking away a month's worth of revenue will hit them hard and look really bad on their books. They're only interested in money anyway, by taking away their income it shows them that they aren't the ones in charge, it's the consumers.
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I'll give it a shot. I mean, why not? They've already shown to me that they don't give a fuck about our opinions and wants. If voice doesn't work, try something that will affect them? xD
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Pffft, I'm 100% American and I agree with you completely. I never liked our government and never will until we have a revolution and overturn it ourselves.
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I find it amazingly ironic that the US pulls down one of the worlds biggest uploading websites barely a few days after saying that they lack the tools to combat Internet piracy. Are all politicians hypocritical liars? V_V
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They had the inditement five weeks ago, they waited until the day after the internet blackout to make any arrests or seize the site. It was completely a political move.
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That sounds creepy. Why a political move?...
Sorry, I'm kind of slow when it comes with political things outside my country.
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It was the day after SOPA got pushed aside and many of the larger, and wealthier, entertainment companies were really unhappy. Previous to the internet blackout a lot of the companies said they'd stop making campaign contributions if SOPA and PIPa didn't pass, so when it became clear that if it did pass that the public would destroy the politicians responsible they took down Megaupload as a means to placate the entertainment industry and keep any contributions they have. I don't think they expected such a huge public backlash over it though.
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God... political movement, spying activity... now is when I'm all WTF. This is creepy as hell and regarding my paranoid state, I'm trully scared >_>UU
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It was so they could get all the info and ip address of those people so they could lock up a fourth of the internet population.
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La verdad es que estoy de acuerdo contigo. Primero deberían estar preocupandose por otros asuntos y no por la piratería, que en estos momentos hay cosas mucho más jodidas.
Y yo tb entiendo que cuando un artista hace algo, pues quiere su reconocimiento, quiere poder vivir de ello y no que la gente obtenga su trabajo descargándolo gratuitamente, pero muchas veces es que los precios son exagerados, y mucha parte de la ganancia no va para al artista sino para las compañías.
La música, por ejemplo, hay CDs que ves el precio y te tira de espaldas, y yo sinceramente no voy a gastarme 20€ o más en un CD del que sólo he escuchado 1 canción en la radio para luego descubrir que de todas las k contiene solo me gustan la de la radio y una más. Yo entiendo que hay personas con gustos fijos, que siguen grupos concretos durante mucho tiempo, pero, y la gente que nos gustan canciones sueltas de todo tipo de musica, o música"rara" y no la típica comercial qué hacemos?
Yo admito que me descargo cosas, pero es que... en la tele no hay absolutamente nada, y tb en mi casa aunque tenemos contratado ono para ver ciertos canales de pago sé que si el precio sube habrá que mandarlo a la mierda u.ù A parte, te encuentras a veces que las series que quieres o te las ponen como les da la gana, repitiendo una y otra vez temporadas que ya has visto, o que tienen traducciones o doblajes que dices "venga hombre e____e" y salvo excepciones, lo que dan en la tele normal es basura.
Con el manga bue... depende de que géneros te gusten o los descargas o no los puedes encontrar en ningún lado. Al menos donde yo vivo tengo suerte de como mucho encontrar alguna que otra serie que contenga yaoi, así que la mayoría me lo descargo. Igual con los libros. Me encanta leer, y soy de las que siempre pensará que es mejor leer algo impreso que en el pc (tanto libros como manga) pero si lo que quiero no lo venden aqui, y cm mucho solo lo voy a encontrar en ingles y tengo k encargarlo en internet y pagar casi lo mismo que vale el libro por el envio pues... oye, como que mi economía no me lo permite.
Cerrar sitios como megaupload no es la solución, sino ofrecer un mejor servicio. Hay globalización por todos lados, todos queremos algo que a lo mejor ha surgido en la otra punta del planeta, y sino nos lo ofrecen pues lo conseguiremos de otra forma aunque sea ilegalmente.
Si hay alguien que admiro en ese sentido es al dueño de Valve, Gabe Newell, que siempre ha opinado que la solución no es luchar contra la piratería y las descargas, sino ofrecer un mejor servicio que esos piratas, adaptarse a las demandas del consumidor y darle algo de calidad con todas las ventajas. Y no hay más que ver el informe de ventas que enseñaron después de 2011, en el que a pesar de la crisis tuvieron una subida de ventas impresionante, pero porque ofrecen rebajas especiales, descargas online a todas horas, muchas veces DLCs de juegos totalmente gratuitos. En las rebajas que hacen ves unos precios tan bajos que es que te da vergüenza hasta pensar en piratear alguno de esos juegos, cuando pagando un poco puedes tenerlo totalmente legal, cn opción a los logros, a las actualizaciones y demás. Pero claro, lo que ellos han hecho es mejorar su servicio y no bitchear porque es que los piratas les quitaban clientes sin pensar que quizás es culpa de que venden un producto pésimo a un precio excesivo ù.ú
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If they really want to stop Pirating, they should make things more accessible to us.
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P diddy feat kanye west & chris brown Megaupload song
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En un comentario abajo explicaron lo de MU, .com es un dominio de US, y por ello CREEN que pueden actuar según sus leyes, y capturar a unos sujetos fuera del territorio porque usan su dominio y ese dominio es parte de su territorio.
Lo de la captura después de la protesta no fue coincidencia. La industria del entretenimiento estaba presionando para que se hiciera algo respecto a MU, y el gobierno quería esperar a que se aprobaran SOPA y PIPA para moverse, pero como vieron que no iba a ser posible, lo hicieron de todas formas. Pobres idiotas, no saben lo que han causado.
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Megaupload.COM is falling under the USA jurisdiction because of it's domain name. Something.com is ranked as americain domain name, so they can act. Fuckin' jerks.
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I understand that the music needs to be protected and all that thing but there was no need to shut the WHOLE website down. I don't live in the US but the Congress is full of greedy bastards who know NOTHING about the Internet.
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Yep, and they feel they can toy with it however they please. :/
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I really do hope they get new people for the Congress. They can't keep on going like this.
(awesome fluttershy avi btw)
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(thanks xD) Something needs to happen that will really make a difference...
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(no prob. :3) Yeah. I do hope that the people who get elected actually know their stuff.
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Eventually they might realize and get the right people up top... eventually. D:
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I can't agree with you more. I live in Argentina and I have the exact same problems than you. I would have never bought the whole Angelspit or The Birthday Massacre discographies if it wasn't for the internet.
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