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Ok...so the title is probably confusing some of you (let's face it, probably most, since this is the kind of warped reasoning that could only come from the mind of a Doctor Who-obsessed loon such as myself) but it is actually reasonably logical. The comicstrip stories 'Nemesis of the Daleks' (1989) and 'Emperor of the Daleks' (1993), and the Big Finish plays 'The Genocide Machine' (2000) and 'The Mutant Phase' (2000) all featured a globe-headed Dalek Emperor, which was served in 'The Genocide Machine' by the same Dalek Supreme seen in 'Planet of the Daleks' - at least as far as the cover and promotional art was concerned.This all hangs together with the same logic and consistency for which the Dalek timeline is justly famed, but it just seemed right to associate Lee Sullivan's Dalek Emperor, the Planet Supreme and the 'Frontier' Dalek and make them into a coherent era (25th through 30th centuries, more or less).
All of which is a rather flimsy excuse to show off the render that I've been working on for the past few days (blasted lighting rassenfassen).
Enjoy!
Doctor Who and the Daleks belong to their respective copyright owners. This Emperor is based on the version created by Lee Sullivan, comic-artist.
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There is one word, just one simple word, that has the power to take the fear from this picture . . .Β
. . . "Atchoo!"
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I love this color contrast! And the big dome dalek.Β
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They should tell these guys not to get a...swelled head!Β Β
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i have allways wondered, what kind of dalek was the supereme (from planet of the daleks) was before it was in the episode, it looks like a movie dalek but, idk what colour scheme it was before
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According to www.dalek6388.co.uk/planet-of-β¦ , it was previously the Gold Dalek from Invasion Earth: 2150AD. With a torch stuck on its eyestick. Which is rather undignified, really.
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wouldve been better left alone as it was, instead of it getting slaughtered and sticking a flashlight in it, i wonder where dalek props go when they are abandoned, probably in somones basement
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Eh, it's a matter of budget size usually. Repainting and modifying the prop meant they could afford to have an impressive Dalek Supreme in a way that they couldn't have if they had to build a new one. It's the same reason they cast lighter vac-formed props for the Imperial Daleks in Remembrance from the newer props used in Revelation, then repainted those Revelation props for use as the Renegade faction. Most Dalek props never got abandoned; they got cannibalised to make the next set!
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too bad the 2005 ones arent as special, if it were a 80s dalek getting thrown away the fanbase would go insane, but since there are tons of 2005 daleks no one really cares if they break they just make new ones, i wonder what happened to the original dalek in "dalek"
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Oh, it's still going. According to Dalek6388, it was Rusty in 'Into the Dalek'.
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The Genocide Machine is set in the 42nd century, which-by your dating-leaves it a bit out of the Frontier Era's time zone, but since the Dalek's had begun creating means of time travel by then I wouldn't doubt it if a few of them traveled a few years forward for the scientific advancement of it.
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Very good point - I'd actually mostly forgotten about Genocide Machine when I actually worked out the timeline, mostly because I find it extremely boring (although it did introduced Bev Tarrant, so it's not all bad).
I, personally, blame the Time-Controller. He's no doubt been monkeying with the Web of Time again, the little scamp.
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[let me just inflate that head with a pin lol xD]
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Thanks
'Mutant Phase' was OK IMO it would of been interesting if they had made the 'mutant phase' creatures a sapient race making it a more moral big decision if the Doctor should erase them from time.
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I think it's probably the best out of that first set of four 'Dalek Empire' stories from Big Finish, but it does unfortunately suffer from being an adapted 'fan production' - it's very much full of check-box elements for that kind of story (the paradox, threats that force the Doctor and the Daleks to team up, Thals vs Daleks, everything getting resolved by a last-minute sacrifice etc) even if it does them reasonably well.
There are definitely other Big Finish Dalek audios that push the envelope more and with greater skill.
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Just wondering? I know that the Golden Emperor was in βNemesis of the Daleksβ,β Emperor of the Daleksβ and βThe Genocide Machineβ. I didnβt know it was in βThe Mutant Phaseβ; how did you find out that it was in that story? Is there some art work for it or implication in the audio? I have the audio myself and will have to listen again. I remember the Doctor saying something along the lines that they had both changed appearances since last meeting.
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The original cover art for that play showed the Golden Emperor, but it got nixed because it was felt that the bobble-headed look wasn't iconic enough.You can see this interesting bit of information here, along with the original version:
[link]
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The sphere emperor is my favorite emperor Dalek and you have done it excellent justice!
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Thanks! It's a surprisingly tricky design, with the transition between the sphere and the squashed Dalek body being very easy to muck up - I'm glad it turned out well!
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The low angle works for the big headed one.
I think the one on the left is just looking away from the other two pretending "Nope, I'm not with these guys; they splashed out, no need to revolt where my leadership is concerned."
The other two need Zeg or someone to turn up and show them you just need to have a red casing to be leader, not a big head or a red eye.
Great work.
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The globe-headed Emperor Dalek is a great form of Emperor Dalek in my opinion.
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You should do the Psyche-Dalek from "Emperor Of The Daleks" and a 90s SWD from "The Genocide Machine" too
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The Psyche Dalek is already in the works - not sure if I'll be doing that SWD...
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Very nice. "Emperor of the Daleks" was an awesome strip - as an introduction to the Doctor Who expanded universe I could hardly have wished for better - and the globe-headed Emperor is visually interesting and much less silly than the static tripodal one the new series keeps giving us.
Purely out of curiosity, how many Dalek Emperors do you intend there to have been? Or is it always the same one but with an upgraded casing?
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(First, I must quibble with the 'keeps giving us' bit - we've only had it once, on screen, and I discount City of the Daleks on principle)
I really want to read Emperor of the Daleks - I'm hoping it'll be in the next 7th Doctor comic collection (due out next year)...
I figure there have been at least four Emperors - the original Golden Emperor, who lasts through to the events of Emperor of the Daleks (or something like them - basically, he loses to Davros), the Evil Emperor, who I take as being the next one along, so to speak, following the Renegades somehow restoring Skaro and returning home (probably coincides with Daleks getting proper time travel), the Big Finish Dalek Emperor, who takes over following the Evil one's destruction by the human factor Daleks and then dies during the events of Dalek Empire, and then the Time War Emperor. They've probably got a lot of mental continuity though - they'll be clones of one another and indoctrinated with the same information, so they see how best to run the Empire.
I shall be building five Emperor models - the original Golden Emperor, and its later form, seen here; the Evil Emperor (who, for the sake of argument, I assume is identical to the Big Finish Emperor); the Time War Emperor (a design I'm quite fond of, though it means building a Dalek mutant); and a New Paradigm Emperor, design to be invented.
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Or the big purple spherical one from "The Eternity Clock"?
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I think I prefer the idea that the Prime Minister is something separate...a sort of 'civilian' authority in charge of logistics. That way I get to design a New Paradigm Emperor *and* build the Prime Minister.
Not a huge fan of the purple sphere one...don't like free-floating components in Dalek designs. Too vulnerable.
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...And ignore the weird astonished smiley thing at the top right of my last post, it's not supposed to be there. Damn DeviantArt and its inability to edit a post!
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Apart from the containment rings of the Time Controller Dalek, of course
I suppose free-floating components for the Emperor could be just about justifiable given that it's very unlikely to go into battle itself, and having them function as an impenetrable shield makes some sort of sense. But I like the shape of the central component, presumably the Emperor proper.
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Good point! I guess what I mean is, I don't think the bit the creature is in should be free floating. If the power goes, it falls and crashes etc etc. Even without going into battle, it would be a bit inconvenient for it to end up stuck at an odd angle while the Skaro Municipal Council tries to lever it out of the ground...
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That's also true - but given the Daleks' latent telekinetic abilities you could always argue that a post-Time War Emperor would be engineered to move and levitate purely through the power of his mind, enhanced through the very best that Dalek genetic, biochemical, and psionic engineering has to offer. Though I'm not sure how comfortable I feel about an Emperor Dalek that would basically be able to Force-choke people into submission...
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Fair point, fair point. I guess I just prefer these things to be solid.
(And personally, I really like the image of the Dalek Emperor being able to Force-choke people!)
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I suppose you could have an interesting contrast between the comparative solidity of Dalek drones and the visual fragility of their Emperor. It would also tie into the idea of the Emperor being the embodiment of the Dalek Empire - look at our technology and biological superiority, etc - and be an interesting riff on the idea of the Emperor being very "brainy", something which links back to the classic sphere-headed Emperor look thematically.
I'm just riffing... but having a good time while doing so
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Excellent!
I'll see what I come up with when I try to build the NDP Emp...
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Wouldn't the Dalek Prime Minister be the equivalent of the New Paradigm Emperor?
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i like them but i wouldn't have them as 90s daleks
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Well, that's just me being whimsical. Glad you like them!
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I'm sure you need no reminding I LOVE the POTD (<-- funny acronym) Supreme Dalek.
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Awesome!!! These would've been the daleks that executed the Master
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Heh. Why not?
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If Doctor Who had been on during the 1990's, then I guess your Dalek design could be viewed as the Daleks that see the Daleks casings evolve from the classic incarnations to the Time War versions, just like the Clone Wars Clone Trooper helmets evolved into the Stormtrooper helmets from Star Wars for example.
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Have a look here: [link]
That's exactly what this project is all about!
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Good Lord, were those comic strips really published that long ago? Now I really feel old! Still, it's a stunning piece of work, and a nice reminder of one of my favourite DWM strips.
Your Dalek history series reminds me of something someone's supposed to have said about TH White - "the middle ages, not as they were, but as they should have been". You've given the Daleks the coherent, consistent evolution that the BBC never bothered to attempt
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Glad you like it!
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