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Eternal Darkness immortals.I didn't have anything scanned, so I doodled with computer.
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Where's Mantorok 
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He is manipulating them all behind the scenes. See the purple lining on the pictures?
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Ah, didn't notice the framing. Good work sir. Good work
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Oh and to further nail in the point Pious was guised as Edward. [link] I'll be searching for the video clip too ^_~
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That's a wiki that anyone can edit, and even if it says he was disguised as the ghost, that only means the person who wrote that thinks so.
That's the problem with fanedited wikis like that, where the fan-theories might be presented as fact. Like where it says that Pious holds deep respect for the ancients. Do we know for that, really? Maybe he just pretends?
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I've also seen the clip for my self, I'm still searching for it.
Oh I know moron's edit wiki threads so all information is taken with a grain of salt. He dose show a formal level of respect, addressing them by titles of royalty.
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I do remember the ghost turning into Pious, but I can't recall if he said anything that would make it certain it wasn't an illusion.
Well, one might want to be civil with one's boss, especially if they are inhuman monsters that could blow up your brain just by thinking it, even if one doesn't actually respect them.
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I forgot you like Eternal darkness too.
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I have other fanart of it in the works too.
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Any of our esteemed Paul Augustine?
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Well, he might get a cameo.
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It's rare when a game allows you to play a villain. Can't wait to see your Eternal darkness art.
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Or rather play as him before he becomes the villain.
It's effective.
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TouchΓ©. There is nothing better then to watch a hero fall.
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I think it was a shame we didn't get much insight into Pious's character after he became the servant of ancient.
There were hints though, that he did it to get power for himself, and not just because he was a puppet of the ancient.
He gloats to Mantorok, and in Xelotath-storyline she implies that he wants to betray her. That could be because of her insanity, but I think she would, even when paranoid, have some truth in it.
However, mortals being just little more than flies to ancients, and just caught up in their conflicts without ability to influence what happens is a big part of Lovecraftian horror.
And the final ending reflects that, when you find out you were just played by Mantorok all along.
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Also is it just me; but when Pious was pretending to be the specter of Alex's grandfather, he seemed a little too close. More then just pretending to be comforting, I always thought Pious had feelings for Alex. He would have seen her grow up due to her living with Edwin. One example while in the guise of Edwin, he berates her saying she should have died with her parents in the car crash.
That out burst along with the mixed signals shows that dispute what Pious has become he is still tainted with human sentiments.
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Pious was pretending to be the ghost?
I always thought it was all a part of Alex slipping into the madness, and that's why the ghost was saying those things.
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Nope, on the third time through Edwin turns into Pious. It was his way to try to discourage, or drive Alex nuts so she'd no longer b a threat to his plains.
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I always assumed it was all on Alex's mind, although Pios might have had something to do with it. And ghost Edwin is really seen in the game as well, even in the beginning. If Pious could do that, why not kill Alex outright?
Besides, I took that all to be a hallucination or dream when the ghost talks to her, since she is pretty nonchalant about it. If my departed relative would appear before me I would have more of an reaction.
Although, since insanity and not being able to tell what is real and not is kinda the theme of the game, it might be a question that doesn't have one real answer.
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While I do agree insanity may have some part in what Alex see's and or experiences; you still have to consider the amount of preparation Pious would have needed to summon his ancient into our world. Leaving his post could have screwed over things, and would be unnecessary drain on his manna. Making Alex believe she's gone off the deep end is a far less draining ploy. Even if it failed, Alex would be slowed down enough so Pious can get to his summing; he only needed a few hours.
A young women such as our protagonist efforts in his mind where futile--after all every other pawn of Mantorok 'failed'. Human arrogance was Pious's undoing such as the ancients thrust for conquest and pride was theirs.
Edwin could have really popped up during some of those cut scenes; including (obviously) the end where he assists his grand daughter during the end battle.
As for Alex's nonchalant reaction to ghosts; is it not hard to believe that even though what she's seeing is real, believes it to be a part of her greif baked delusions? Many people in real life refuse to believe in the supernatural, looking to science and logic for answers, believing that there is meaning and explanation some where in the chaos. Alex was a mathematician before the game started; she seemed like a person that could only believe what is experienced by the five senses, and measured. Eventually Alex has to accept that and use magic she learned from the tomb to save humanity, going against her very core beliefs about reality. It's very much magic/chaos vs science/order.
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I'm not saying you're wrong with that, just that I'm not sure if it was Pious, or just Alex having hallucinations after reading about him in the book, or Ed's ghost, or all of them.
Edward definitely appears in the end, and Max appears to Edward as a ghost, so ghosts can appear in the mansion.
I'm not sure if Pious knows about Alex, or thinks about her as a threat. He eventually sent the guardian to kill Edward (although I'm not sure why he didn't do it before), and might have thought that took care of the threat.
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Oh I know you aren't saying I'm wrong; its a debate and you were the one that said you hate to agree to disagree ^_~.
Though I guess we will never truly know what Pious thought or knew of Alex, or why it took them so long to kill Edward. The ancients weren't too concerned over the guardian city of En,Gaah(sp?)being destroyed. If Edward tried to warn the world he'd end up like Maximillian Roivas. So he wasn't a true threat at the time. Pious had time on his side; waited until Edward now withered and brittle with age to attack.
But being a women with a fondness of unrequited love, I like to think of the ideal that maybe Pious had feelings for Alex. Could explain why he went easy on her compared to all the other chosen. He also went easy on Ellia, even allowing her the chance to escape with her life. So me thinks Pious has a weakness for the fainer sex.
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I don't think we're actually disagreeing here. But it's fun to think of different possibilities about stuff the game wasn't clear about.
I wonder how much Pious had free will, and ability to maneouver.
Here's a thought; maybe part of Pious wanted the ancient to fail, maybe since he had still feelings for humanity. Or wanted to die to escape his undead existence.
Or perhaps he didn't want his ancient to succeed, but also wasn't going to directly betray him/her. After all, if the summoning succeeded, the ancient would have no use for him anymore(or perhaps it was promising him death?), so Pious might want to keep the things as they were.
I can't find my copy of the game, and I haven't played it for a while, so I forget a lot.
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Well said. I also had the feeling once Pious succeeded that he'd just be killed off. More then likely Pious wanted to transcend the bounds flesh and earthly physics. At least it's hinted in Xel'lotath and Ulyaoth's scenarios.
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Even if he wasn't to keen on following the ancient, it's kinda hard to go back to your old job when you're a glow-eyed skeleton.
I wonder, what was it that made some people special? We're they different somehow from normal humans? Why was Pious chosen, was it just because he was there?
The guy who gets thrown in the pillar of flesh could see through Pious' magic. He was originally intended to be one of the playable characters, but replaced with the architect.
Here's another idea:
maybe the people who got the book, as well as some of the others had ancients or guardians among their ancestors. Mantorok sent his guardians to mate with humans in the past, forming a link with humanity. In some families, like Roivas, his blood runs strong.
The game doesn't hint at that, but it's a kind of Lovecraftian idea.
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whoot whoot ! isnt Eternal darkness inspired by Cthulhu mythos?
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Well, pretty much. They even mention Lovecraft.
When Alex inspects her uncle's library, she notes that he was apparently interested in Lovecraft's work.
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Hey this is really cool. The blocky style reminds me of the artwork from Zelda:Windwaker
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They look awesome. Like an inscription in some forgotten temple.
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Thanks.
That what I was kinda thinking of.
I'd kinda like buying some clay again and making ancient artefacts of these three.
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He's pulling the strings behind the curtain. Note the colour of the frame.
Actually, I didn't feel like drawing him.
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The three Lovecraftian monsters from game "Eternal Darkness", my favourite horror game.
More realistic pic I made earlier
[link]
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o cool so ill have to check this game out
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Do that. If you have Gamecube or Wii.
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