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Published: 2020-02-28 20:19:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 1766; Favourites: 11; Downloads: 0
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Here's my latest comparison... this time, I'm going to take a good look at two bullying jerks with superhero identities, and how they stack up against each other: Bakugou Katsuki from "My Hero Academia"; and Chloe Bourgeois from "Miraculous Ladybug".Well, I'd say things are pretty simple, all things considered.
Both characters are blond self-centered jerks who bully the main hero/heroine (Izuku in Bakugou's case, and Marinette in Chloe's case), and they both act like they own the world and life owes them everything.
But in "Miraculous Ladybug", Chloe gets her classmates' disdain for the way she acts, and all the other pupils tolerate her at best, and outright dislike her at worst. Her only friends are Adrien and Sabrina, and even they have limits to how much of her bitchy attitude they can take. Because, you know, when someone acts like a jerk, of course other people are not going to like them!
Not like in "My Hero Academia", where everyone seems to put Bakugou on a pedestal, and even his main victim Izuku shrugs off his inexcusable behavior as "Kacchan being Kacchan". Seriously, the fact that Izuku considers Bakugou a friend, despite all those years of bullying and abuse, makes no sense at all. Oh yes, Bakugou does get taken to task from time to time, but... it just doesn't feel enough, you know? The narrative is still doing nothing over his hair-trigger temper and his general attitude.
So, yeah, in terms of personality, they are quite similar. In terms of how the narrative handles them, Chloe is more realistic, balanced and nuanced, even though she's still a terrible person.
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(Also, Chloe never told Marinette to commit suicide.)
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(No, I'm not sweeping THAT under the carpet.)
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I just wish Chloè was treated a bit better by the writer.
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Yeah I personally am not the biggest fan of Bakugou because of that infamous line. Seriously, commit suicide? That’s a seriously low blow especially considering that Izuku at the time could effectively qualify as disabled! I know that I can like jerk characters and bullies, but only when handled correctly and have them, you know, get some sort of comeuppance for their bullying
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Personally I think Bakugou is very well written and is developing rather well as a character. One that you can not really understand if you only look at him on the surface level. Though I can not say if Chloe is truly better since I have no real interest Miraculous Ladybug at all.
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It's not so much how Bakugou is written as a person that's the problem - it's the writing IN RELATION TO him. His development as a character SHOULD work, it really should...but when he's not faced any believable consequences for being a bullying dick and isn't met with more disapproval from others for some of the unbelievably horrible things he says and the way he acts, it breaks my suspension of disbelief, thus breaking my immersion in the character and his story. With this kind of character you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. His development NEEDS to come with forcing him to confront his worst behaviors and the hurtfulness of his words and actions on others like Deku. It NEEDS to really challenge him and make him seriously push himself to be a better person who makes better choices and does right by others who he'd hurt in the past. Because until it does, I cannot consider him fully redeemed for his colossal assholery in the earliest chapters/episode.
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He never apologized for telling Izuku to commit suicide.
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Did he truly mean it though. I personally think Izuku and Bakugou are closer as than they appear to be. Thus why I think Bakugou is far deeper character than most people give him credit for being. His actions can not always be taken at surface level nor can his personality either. One of the character I think that understands Bakugou the most is Izuku and vice versa to a certain degree. Thus content, surrounding, even knowledge both of them had at that point(they had no idea that Quirks could acquired though means other than birth yet),what was revealed about his character through the story following chapter 1 until now, etc make me personally think that he was not truly serious.
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"Did he truly mean it though."
IF he DIDN'T mean it, then that gives him even LESS of an excuse for saying it. Merciless bullying reaching the point of telling a very depressed, troubled, vulnerable person to go kill themselves is a VERY serious matter. There is no "you have to look deeper beneath the surface" here. What Bakugou said was inexcusable and warrants the sincerest apology he could muster. Period.
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I really don't care. It was still a rotten thing to do.
And exactly, how are the actions of a bully supposed to be taken? I've been a victim of bullying, and for a victim of bullying, all that counts is the surface level.
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Though I thought idea was whose the superiorly developed character though. Thus I am judging Bakugou based off of that not if what he said was wrong or not. Because it seriously was and that one of the biggest flaws in his personality and actions. However as a fictional character that why I think Bakugou is interesting because what he says and what he means are not always one and the same. The person at fault for that line is not really Bakugou its the series creator Kohei Horikoshi. He could had that line even Bakugou's personality and actions be completely different yet still hold I feel after following the series for six years was the deeper meaning.
Again I do not recall ever once saying bullies or bullying was right. I merely stated I personally think Bakugou is an interestlingly developed character at the least and thus not inferior to Chloe(who I can say nothing for nor against because I have no real interest in the series she comes from). I think bullying and bullies are wrong though can not related to truly either. I do not recall even being bullying the past, people have annoyed to the point where the thought of their mere existence made me physically ill at times though. Yet that was all me and my thoughts towards them only.
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See, in my opinion Chloe is the better written character because she does suffer consequences for her actions, and the people around her don't make excuses for her.
The problem is, Horikoshi (in my opinion at least) is falling for the Japanese notion that "school bullying is harmless". I would like for him to acknowledge that what Bakugou did was wrong, and take him to task for that. Until he does that, I'm not gonna like Bakugou or think he's well-written.
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No I do not as your opinion is your opinion. Its does not make you right or wrong, its merely your opinion. My opinion (which can not include neither being superior or inferior since I do not care about Chloe or her series truly) is that Bakugou is at the very least equal to Chloe. Bakugou does suffer the consequences for his actions and the people around him do not make excuse for him(some do try to explain the reasoning for them which is different from making an excuse).
Was Horikoshi wrong for doing Bakugou as he did.....I can not say because I do not know the person and neither do you. So neither one of us can really say you know with 100% certainty exactly what was going on in their head when they were creating Bakugou and his role in the story. I personally will not judge Bakugou's actions over the last six years the series has been in existence merely because of what was said in Chapter 1 only. Claiming one character's development is superior to another should not have anything to do with weather or not you like the character....at least in my personal opinion
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Fine, fine. Can we just agree to disagree?
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I'm not particularly that big a fan of Chloe, but even I can see she's a better written jerk than the Amazing Consequences Houdini himself, Bakugou.
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Thank you. At least with Chloe, people behave like they reasonably should for her attitude.
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I feel I'd have liked Bakugou better if he'd paid realistic consequences for being such a dick and was met with more disapproval from others, especially over crossing the line with comments like "go jump off the rooftop and die". Because when the writing doesn't do that, none of the supposed "character development" he receives feels earned.
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