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You just canΒ΄t compare hitler with obama.
Hitler was way different and most americans donΒ΄t understand a thing about him.
Trust me if youΒ΄re from Europe you know a bit more about him.
The same way you americans know obama a lot better then us.
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My opinions on abortion,or Obama aren't important
however,I would hope.....HOPE,that the Holocaust or anything like it would never happen again,I would like to think that the world wouldn't stand for it this time
But then again,there is a lot of current shit,so who am i to know
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Similar speeches different time and different meanings
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This is stupid. Crap artwork and uninformed message. Comparing Obama to Hitler may be trendy but it has no actual basis.
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Actually there leadership is strikingly similar. don't be ingnorant there very much alike
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Maybe on a very basic level, but the same can be said about most people. Lots of people have qualities like charisma and many people are intelligent, but to say that someone is like Hitler because of such basic traits is truly ignorant.
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He does do such a nice job of providing us proof.
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"Right.
The man on the left enabled a German holocaust of 12 million innocent people put to death in concentration camps.
The man on the right is enabling an American holocaust of 50 million innocent people (conceived but not yet born) put to death in abortion mills."
Awww, cripes...here we go again.
Hey, MORON...if they aint 'yet born' they AINT YET PEOPLE...Jesus, and the Right accuses the LEFT of bein' 'bleeding hearts'...the Left has NOTHING on the idiot 'no choice' Right...
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it doesn't matter, they become a person from the moment of conception, saying they aren't people is just a political way for pro-choicers to see it so they can sleep better at night. Whether people like it or not, abortion is taking a life. Get over that little fact before you start yelling at people
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I agree with you. There arguement is very weak. Its obviously alive and its not a parasite. It has its own DNA there two seperate PEOPLE.
the left wing is ignorant. its sad that ignorance results in death of children =/
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What sort of scum would justify the cowardly murder of children, for the sake of convenience at that, as being a "choice"? In the name of saint freedoom?
Leftards like to pretend they value "humahn lief" but they donΒ΄t, even the groups they favour over others are no exception.
1 black killed by 1 white is "racist" but 100 blacks killed by other blacks is insignificant.
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what no I agree with all that you just said.
I'm prolife and I think ALL crimes are hate crimes
not just white on black or visa versa.
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no one wants to hear a baby is a life.
Its like cause we cannot see it and interact with it every day, that makes it less of a human. How heartless is that?
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Its true. Very heartless.
God is the only one who has the right
to decide if life is taken or not who
are we to decide that
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Too true, glad to see I am not alone!
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it doesn't matter, they become a person from the moment of conception
THATS AN OPINION, Jesus H CHRIST when will you LEARN THAT??
When the 'child' can survive OUTSIDE THE WOMB, its a PERSON...until such time, its a PART OF THE WOMAN.
And I sleep just fine at night, NOT due to the BS reasoning you suggest, but because my opinions are grounded in REALITY not FICTION.
Abortion is NOT 'taking a life', and whether it is or NOT, guess what? ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
K
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wow how old are you? you debate by fighting and insulting, you do not even hear the opinions of the other person you just ATTACK. Grow up
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wow how old are you?
Old enough to know that you are an over-opinionated loudmouth that actually thinks to compare a man that butchered millions to a man that is attempting to help us and the world, and how completely INSANE and RIDICULOUS that makes you.
you debate by fighting and insulting, you do not even hear the opinions of the other person you just ATTACK. Grow up
Using terms like 'grow up' simply proves my point...you are the childish individual here, honey.
I 'insult' when INSULTED...its called a RESPONSE to an ATTACK.
However, I must tip my hat to you, it must be difficult to mouth off so often with your foot wedged firmly in your trap.
K
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Dude, back off, like I said, you think you are old enough, but you need to rethink how you speak, you insulted what I believe in, and didn't give a crap. Im glad not everyone in the world is like you, cause I think I would become a hermit, how about we agree to disagree and you chill?
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Dude, back off, like I said, you think you are old enough, but you need to rethink how you speak, you insulted what I believe in, and didn't give a crap.
AFTER you made YOUR insulting comments...lets get the facts straight here, sweetheart.
Im glad not everyone in the world is like you, cause I think I would become a hermit, how about we agree to disagree and you chill?
And Im glad that the MAJORITY of people in the world DO think like I do...see, thats how Obama got into office, he was ELECTED, unlike that phony retard Bush.
Im fine for 'agreeing to disagree' if YOU back off...I didnt start any of this, YOU made the insulting, ridiculous comments regarding our elected president.
But its obvious that no ammount of talking to you will change your 'opinions', so yeah...I agree we should BOTh just 'back off'.
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So painfully true. I am scared to death of the Obamination.
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This guy is going to ruin our country and destroy our military and I think people are finally seeing his socialist agenda. And I voted for the guy. Makes me sick... Nice work.
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Wow...how...PATHETIC.
Oh, and TYPICAL...lest we not forget TYPICAL.
Hate spewed from the tiny brained GOP.
Yup.
TYPICAL.
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Hey, you bozos used it against Bush, so show us you can take it as much as you dish it out.
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At least 'us bozos' knew who deserved to have it dished out to them.
Bush was a trumped up little chickenhawk, an idiot and a liar.
He took us to war via mistruth and exageration to further an agenda.
When Obama wanders off into that territory, we'll talk.
K
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People jumped on the hate train for Bush, he wasn't half as bad as this man, he has no diea what he is doing, and he may be as you say 'stuck' in what bush 'started' but it was bush who got stuck with what clinton left him to begin with. Obama never should have been prez. He is too young too inexperienced and too full of himself. he wants to give rights to illegal citizens and other countries over his own people. he is cutting this country off at its knees with his apologies. The world thinks even less of us since he was elected in, and its only going to go down hill from here
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People jumped on the hate train for Bush, he wasn't half as bad as this man
WOW, talk about dellusional and WRONG.
Yeah, Im sure Obama is as bad as the fucker that LIED us into WAR, is responsible for THOUSANDS of DEATHS and has driven our world reputation and the economy into a fucking DITCH...man, are you BLIND.
but it was bush who got stuck with what clinton left him to begin with
Yeah, you mean that gargantuam SURPLUS that Clinton left us?
MORON.
He is too young too inexperienced and too full of himself.
Sounds like you are describing YOURSELF, honey.
The world thinks even less of us since he was elected in
Riiiight...
Man, are you THICK.
The rest of the world LOVES HIM, wake up...Germany, Africa, France...try watching something besides FAUX News and LEARN....Fuck me, you are PATHETIC in your stupidity and hate.
K
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mhmm, grow up dear, I never insulted you. You are what makes the worlkd hate Librals
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mhmm, grow up dear, I never insulted you.
Yeah, riiiight...you only insulted what I BELIEVE in...big dif, huh?
You are what makes the worlkd hate Librals
Hardly. I believe in freedom of speech, choice and thought... YOU are what makes the world LOATHE Conservative, Miss Hypocrite.
K
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*shakes head* I am so done with you, age doesn't matter, youre just a child inside that doesn't want anyone to ahve an opinion other than yours. How about we agree to disagree, cause no matter what I say, you'll only throw more insults
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*shakes head* I am so done with you, age doesn't matter, youre just a child inside that doesn't want anyone to ahve an opinion other than yours.
Your ignorrant comments are not opinion, they are HATE SPEECH...completely lacking in factual basis and slanderous at BEST.
You, my dear, are the child here.
I base my opinions on FACT, not hate.
I say we agree to disagree and go our seperate ways...unless you reply with more insults, of course...
K
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So he get's a free pass in doing the other things Bush was supposedly wrong for doing, namely spending money we don't have, running up our debt, violating the Constitution and increasing the size of the government?
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So he get's a free pass in doing the other things Bush was supposedly wrong for doing, namely spending money we don't have, running up our debt, violating the Constitution and increasing the size of the government?
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Riiight...as if Obama isn't STUCK dealing with all the SHIT Bush CREATED in the first place in everything you just mentioned...those who CREATE the problem shouldn't bitch about how it's being resolved.
No one said anything about a 'free pass'...I'm still WAITING to make any judgment regarding Obama, but he has already done more positive work for this country within his first 200 DAYS than King George the dipshit did in 8 YEARS.
-K
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One, I didn't create the problem; Big Brother did. And two, I have every right to bitch when the problem is being resolved by the very thing that caused it. I have a further right to bitch when I'm the one who's going to have to deal with the consequences of Obama's actions.
And while we're on the subject of "all the SHIT Bush CREATED", let me remind you which party was in control of Congress, the part of the government that must approve everything the President does before it is done, was the same party now in control of all three branches of the government.
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One, I didn't create the problem; Big Brother did.
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'Big Brother'??!
Are you SERIOUS?
Way to use paranoid and dellusional cliches, there...
The problems you mentioned were created by simple aspects to comprehend, my friend...GREED, LIES, and EGO.
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And two, I have every right to bitch when the problem is being resolved by the very thing that caused it.
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Well, since that ISN'T the case, you just argued yourself into a corner, didn't you?
'The very thing that caused it' has NOTHING to do with the current Administartion, and the fact that you are operating under such a misconception shows nothing more than the fact that you do NOT know the root of the problem.
The issues you mentioned were ALL caused by a greedy, self involved and war mongering prior Administraton that LIED, CHEATED and STOLE at every chance they got...when exactly has Obama done ANYTHING similar to those yahoos?
Never that's when.
All he is TRYING to do is clean up the shitstains that those assholes created.
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I have a further right to bitch when I'm the one who's going to have to deal with the consequences of Obama's actions
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See above statement.
You aint 'dealing' with ANYTHING Obama has done yet, and to attempt to make such a claim simply further illustrates your ignorance of the situation.
Anything negative you are 'dealing with' at the present time was caused by the previous assholes, plain and simple...for Gods sake, how can you be simplistic enough to think for a moment that ANYTHING Obama has set in motion could already be affecting your life??
It takes MUCH longer than the time he has had in office for actual 'affect' to take place...get a mitt, catch a freakin' CLUE.
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And while we're on the subject of "all the SHIT Bush CREATED", let me remind you which party was in control of Congress, the part of the government that must approve everything the President does before it is done, was the same party now in control of all three branches of the government.
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Riiight...
It aint like the Dems AND Rebublicans were LIED to about FALSE 'evidence' to take us to war with THE WRONG COUNTRY, a move that bled us DRY financially...
And while we are on THAT topic, lets not forget which president left office with the largest SURPLUS in 40 years, and which dipshit fake president MORON used up said surplus and has BANKRUPTED us all, shall we?
K
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"Well, since that ISN'T the case, you just argued yourself into a corner, didn't you?
'The very thing that caused it' has NOTHING to do with the current Administartion, and the fact that you are operating under such a misconception shows nothing more than the fact that you do NOT know the root of the problem.
The issues you mentioned were ALL caused by a greedy, self involved and war mongering prior Administraton that LIED, CHEATED and STOLE at every chance they got...when exactly has Obama done ANYTHING similar to those yahoos?"
Well, for one, it helps when you understand economics and don't keep your head wrapped around meaningless politics because you didn't like the last president. I'm not much fond of Bush, but I'm not ignoring reality by blaming the entire mess on him.
Plain and simple, we're in a recession because we have massive foreign debt and our government is spending money it doesn't have (which means it either has to borrow it, thus increasing debt, or tax more of it from the people, which leaves less for the free market). When Bush was in office, we kept hearing about how his deficit spending was hurting us and how our debt was increasing under him. Well, Obama's actions are causing the same thing; increased deficits and foreign debt. By that logical fact, Obama shares blame in what is happening.
"All he is TRYING to do is clean up the shitstains that those assholes created."
Maybe, but you don't solve a problem created by debt and deficit spending by creating more debt and spending more money you don't have.
"You aint 'dealing' with ANYTHING Obama has done yet, and to attempt to make such a claim simply further illustrates your ignorance of the situation.
Anything negative you are 'dealing with' at the present time was caused by the previous assholes, plain and simple...for Gods sake, how can you be simplistic enough to think for a moment that ANYTHING Obama has set in motion could already be affecting your life??
It takes MUCH longer than the time he has had in office for actual 'affect' to take place...get a mitt, catch a freakin' CLUE."
First off, I said I'm GOING to have to deal with the consequences. Unlike politicians, I look at the long-term, not the short-term, and Obama's actions and what he's talking about doing will certainly have negative long-term consequences; but hey, if you'd rather wait and learn the hard way, fine by me.
Also, I'd like to point out that a few weeks ago, Obama took credit when there was talk that the economy might be turning around. Logically, if he hasn't been in office long enough for anything bad happening to be his fault, how can anything good be his doing? You can't pat him on the back when something goes right, then turn around and say "Bush'es fault" when something bad happens under his watch.
Second, his out of control spending has already got the Chinese, who have been shouldering our debt, to start to back off from taking any more, which will lower the value of the dollar. Next, the money he's spending will have to be made up somehow, and if not by borrowing from the Chinese, it'll come from taxing people like me. Either way, I'm the one dealing with the negative consequences.
"Riiight...
It aint like the Dems AND Rebublicans were LIED to about FALSE 'evidence' to take us to war with THE WRONG COUNTRY, a move that bled us DRY financially..."
I'm going to reveal to you a very, very simple fact; Bush and the Iraq war have come and gone and continuing to raise them as attacks doesn't change the fact that they happened. You can moan and groan about them until doomsday and it's not going to change a thing. So, the best thing to do is learn from them and move on.
I don't give a damn what happened in the past eight years; I have zero ability to change it. The only value it has to me and anyone else is a guide on what to let the government do and not do.
Yeah, I admit Bush had a hand in our current economic mess, but to say it was he alone is to ignore how our government works. Even assuming the whole "Bush lied, people died" thing is true, Congress would've still understood our money situation, as they are the ones in charge of it. If they didn't, then it is still their fault because it is their job to know how much money we have and can spend. Ignorance is and never has been an excuse.
"And while we are on THAT topic, lets not forget which president left office with the largest SURPLUS in 40 years, and which dipshit fake president MORON used up said surplus and has BANKRUPTED us all, shall we?"
And by your own words, we're bankrupt, so please explain to me how spending more money will help us?
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Siiiigh...
Look, Bud...we are doomed to continue this 'back and forth', and NEITHER of us is bound to change who and wht we stand behind...
I stand behind our current prez 100%, I'm giving him time to see if things improve...basically, I cannot see HOW he could POSSIBLY be any worse than the DISASTER that preceeded him.
You are going to continue to think Obama is 'evil', etc, no matter what I have to say.
let's just agree to disagree and get on with our lives, yes?...
I WILL give you credit, however, in that dispite the obvious fact that we disagree on these issues, you have been mostly courteous and ibntelligent (and non insulting, for the most part) with your responses...however, I still think that attempting to draw a comparison between Obama and Hitler is flat out assinine and mostly hate based...Hitler was a genocidal mad man responsible for the death of millions, a man filled with hate and ignorance...to 'compare' that to Obama is simply and flat out RIDICULOUS.
But I digress...let's just agree that we both DO NOT agree and move on...
Peace...
K
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Right.
The man on the left enabled a German holocaust of 12 million innocent people put to death in concentration camps.
The man on the right is enabling an American holocaust of 50 million innocent people (conceived but not yet born) put to death in abortion mills.
"The fruit of abortion in nuclear war"
- Mother Teresa
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Only if you ignore the minor fact that Obama is a Liberal whereas Hitler was uberconservative, as well as the overwhelmingly different stances on things like war, foreign policy, etc. . .
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Hitler was a member of NDSAP. If you want to call it anything, call it socialist. Republicans hate socialism.
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Hitler was a Socialist in the same way North Korea is a Democracy.
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can you elaborate on that?
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Sure. Hitlers political platform did have the word Socialism in it. Similarly, North Korea has is called the Democratic Republic of North Korea. North Korea is far from Democratic in any way. Similarly, the National Socialists are far from being actual Socialists.
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The term"republic" refers to how a state (government) is organized--and has nothing to do with democracy, per se.The United States' actual system of government, despite ignorant morons thinking we're either a complete democracy or a complete republic. We're actually a combination of the two
When the "Republic of South Korea" was established illegally in 1948 (in violation of the Potsdam, Cairo, Alexandria and Oslo agreements) by the US, the Republic of South Korea was a military dictatorship under the control of President Syngham Rhee who was installed by the US. South Korea was a right-wing anti-communist military dictatorship until the mid 1990's. It is still right-wing and anti-communist but is much more democratic than previously.
The "Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea" was established some five months after South Korea was established. At that time elections had been held at local village and regional levels and the country was far more "democratic" than south of the DMZ. Because of the actions of Syngham Rhee and his cabinet and military, the north had to build up its military and slowly the north became more paranoid and less democratic and more centralised.
If the US had obeyed international law and the international agreements, then Korea would have had its nationwide elections in 1948 and be a unified country and no Korean War would have been fought
In a Democratic Republic, the leaders are chosen by popular vote. In Korea, the people vote for candidates who elect delegates who elect higher level delegates to the Supreme Peoples' Assembly who choose the leadership. A similar system elects the Presidium of the WPK. There is nothing in their constitution about being the worlds first communist non-Marxist-Leninist (Juche), hereditary absolute Monarchy.
At the end of the Second War War, the late Kim Il-Sung (father of current leader, Kim Il-Jong, believed to have been recently stricken with a stroke) founded North Korea with the political support, diplomatic backing of Stalin's USSR and its then-ally, Mao Zedong's People's Republic of China, and economic and military aid from the Soviets and their satellites. Customarily, the Eastern European republics, which the Soviet Red Army and its political commissars absorbed into their political orbits called themselves "People's Republics" or "Democratic Republics". For example, pre-reunification East Germany was formally referred to as the German Democratic Republic ("GDR"). In Marxist-Leninist ideology, Western parliamentary or representative democracy (with its competing political parties, civic society, contested elections, secret ballots) is a creation of the bourgeois and is but a sham perpetuated and manipulated by the ideological class enemies of the proletariat. True democracy is vested in countries where the power-monopolizing Communist Party captures the organs of the state and the means of production. The CP is the vanguard of the workers and the leaders of the inevitable revolution (which will overturn the capitalist order and establish the classless society). One should view the terms "Democratic" and "People's" as Orwellian appellations which reveal the essentially dictatorial nature of the M-L types.
Definitions
democracy:
the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them majority rule: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group
Social democracy:
a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means. a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices
Representative democracy:
Representative democracy is a form of government founded on the principle of elected individuals representing the people, as opposed to either autocracy or direct democracy.
Socialism:
Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources.a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. any of various social or political theories or movements in which the common welfare is to be achieved through the establishment of a socialist economic system an economic theory or system in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the community collectively, usually through the state. It is characterized by production for use rather than profit, by equality of individual wealth, by the absence of competitive economic activity, and, usually, by government determination of investment, prices, and production levels An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity. There are many varieties of socialism. Some socialists tolerate capitalism, as long as the government maintains the dominant influence over the economy; others insist on an abolition of private enterprise. All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists.
Communism:
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. any leftist political activity or thought, esp when considered to be subversive advocacy of a classless society in which private ownership has been abolished and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community An economic and social system envisioned by the nineteenth-century German scholar Karl Marx. In theory, under communism, all means of production are owned in common, rather than by individuals ( see Marxism and Marxism-Leninism). In practice, a single authoritarian party controls both the political and economic systems. In the twentieth century, communism was associated with the economic and political systems of China and the Soviet Union and of the satellites of the Soviet Union.
National socialism: the doctrines and practices of the Nazis, involving the supremacy of Hitler as FΓΌhrer, anti-Semitism, state control of the economy, and national expansion. Nazi ideology drew on the racist doctrines of the comte de Gobineau and Houston Stewart Chamberlain, on the nationalism of Heinrich von Treitschke, and on the hero-cult of Friedrich Nietzsche, often transforming the ideas of these thinkers. Nazi dogma, partly articulated by Hitler in Mein Kampf, was elaborated by the fanatical Alfred Rosenberg. Vague and mystical, it was not a system of well-defined principles but rather a glorification of prejudice and myth with elements of nihilism. Its mainstays were the doctrines of racial inequality and of adherence to the leader, or FΓΌhrer; its constant theme was nationalist expansion.
According to Nazi dogma, races could be scientifically classified as superior and inferior. The highest racial type was the Nordic, or Germanic, type of the βAryanβ race, while blacks and Jews were at the bottom of the racial ladder. Intermarriage contributed to the deterioration of the superior race, and the Jews, knowing this, had furthered prostitution and seduction to defile the Germans. Consequently only small islands of the pure remained, but it was their destiny to govern their inferiors and, through scientific breeding, to extend the βmaster raceβ and limit inferior races.Nazi expansionism was linked to race in the geopolitical theories of Karl Haushofer; from the degenerate Slavs in particular the Germans would wrest Lebensraum [living space]. The ruling βmaster raceβ itself was to be organized into an authoritarian pyramid, at the apex of which stood the infallible FΓΌhrer. Strength and discipline were deified by the Nazis, and democracy was spurned as a depraved form of government that protected the weak and mediocre.In April, 1920, Hitler advocated that the party should change its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). Hitler had always been hostile to socialist ideas, especially those that involved racial or sexual equality. However, socialism was a popular political philosophy in Germany after the First World War. This was reflected in the growth in the German Social Democrat Party (SDP), the largest political party in Germany.
Hitler, therefore redefined socialism by placing the word 'National' before it. He claimed he was only in favour of equality for those who had "German blood". Jews and other "aliens" would lose their rights of citizenship, and immigration of non-Germans should be brought to an end.
In February 1920, the NSDAP published its first programme which became known as the "Twenty-Five Points". In the programme the party refused to accept the terms of the Versailles Treaty and called for the reunification of all German people. To reinforce their ideas on nationalism, equal rights were only to be given to German citizens. "Foreigners" and "aliens" would be denied these rights.
To appeal to the working class and socialists, the programme included several measures that would redistribute income and war profits, profit-sharing in large industries, nationalization of trusts, increases in old-age pensions and free education.
Nazi:
a member of the fascist National Socialist German Workers' Party, which was founded in 1919 and seized political control in Germany in 1933 under Adolf Hitler
Iβm still confused. What is your point? I donβt see it.
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Your words only show your ignorance of true conservatism.
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i cant read german...... anyone willing to translate ? or are they so similar that the right is basically a translation?
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