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Published: 2009-02-24 19:11:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 995; Favourites: 27; Downloads: 9
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Description For everyone who wanted to see my budgies again, here they are all together: Nikki, Kathi and Tiko. Taken february 2009. Do not steal.
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Dnightshade [2012-06-05 10:19:52 +0000 UTC]

......this is gonna sound weird and insane, and it probably just my eyes messing with me, but while I was reading the picture discription, fron the top corner of my eyes, I could have sworn that the middle budgies was sort of moving, like it was breathing O_o
........yeah, gotta be my eyes, no more soda before bed for me >_<

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Lunchi In reply to Dnightshade [2012-06-06 20:03:27 +0000 UTC]

lol whoops, definitely no ghosts here, no. Except for the yellow one, the ones on this photo are dead now..

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Wild-Soul [2009-09-23 10:32:20 +0000 UTC]

I've featured your photo in my Journal. [link]
I hope you don't mind!

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Amber-jo [2009-02-27 03:04:20 +0000 UTC]

"Does ye thinks we should goes in for da kill boss?"
"No..." Holds up a wing to stop the budgie, "She will bring us the Snickers bar... if she knows what's good for her."
The three cackle.

Yeah... XD
They're really adorable ^_^ But they look like mobsters. Wonderful shot.

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Lunchi In reply to Amber-jo [2009-02-27 17:25:03 +0000 UTC]

lol haha. Could be them. Of course Kathi would coordinate the plan since she is the boss. And Nikki would be the clever one that tackles you from behind when you are not prepared for it and Tiko would be pretending to be scared when actually is only checking you out and finding the right moment to attack

But in this photo I think they look rather harmless, all with closed eyes because of my flash

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Vampiresheep [2009-02-26 21:35:12 +0000 UTC]

Ha, süsses Bild der 3
Kathi streckt sich wohl gerade bzw klappt ihre Flügel um es sich gemütlich zu machen.

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Lunchi In reply to Vampiresheep [2009-02-27 17:25:42 +0000 UTC]

danke. Nein immer wenn ich mit Blitz fotografiere, erschreckt sie sich und zuckt kurz mit den Flügeln, bleibt aber immer sitzen

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Ryan254 [2009-02-24 21:45:04 +0000 UTC]

Love the colors of the birds

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Lunchi In reply to Ryan254 [2009-02-25 19:33:31 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! They are easy to tell apart, ne?

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Vampiric-Conure [2009-02-24 20:52:57 +0000 UTC]

The fella in the middle reminds me of my Buzzsaw who finally passed from old age .

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Lunchi In reply to Vampiric-Conure [2009-02-25 19:34:02 +0000 UTC]

aw I am sorry to hear that

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Vampiric-Conure In reply to Lunchi [2009-02-26 15:36:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks . I miss Buzzsaw, but hey. She had a great run.

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CabbageWhite [2009-02-24 19:13:36 +0000 UTC]

They're so cuuuuute!!!

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Lunchi In reply to CabbageWhite [2009-02-24 19:19:42 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much I love them

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CabbageWhite In reply to Lunchi [2009-02-24 19:30:30 +0000 UTC]

I got one myself He looks a little like the girl in the middle, only more white xD

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Lunchi In reply to CabbageWhite [2009-02-25 19:37:50 +0000 UTC]

Nice. Only thing is, you really should buy more than one, because they are flock birds and suffer when kept solitary. Most lonely budgies get very sick. They really need a partner.

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CabbageWhite In reply to Lunchi [2009-02-25 19:45:31 +0000 UTC]

His cage is always open, he can fly around the whole house, the whole day, and I have a really good 'relationship' with him. He even kisses me goodbye!

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Lunchi In reply to CabbageWhite [2009-02-26 18:09:55 +0000 UTC]

That does not matter. Imagine you would have to live alone without other people to talk to. Budgies are flock birds which live in HUUUUGGEEE flocks in Australia and they are never alone. (You cannot replace a partner for your budgie, because you have to go to school/work/shopping/meet friends etc. and flock birds panick when left alone - it is not natural to them)
And they need other birds to talk in their own language and feed each other.
A bird which is forced to live solitary, soon starts to feed its mirror/plastic birds (inappropriate toys which can harm them deeply) or even its own shadow or your hand/finger.
These things cannot take the food, so he has to swallow it again. From the upbringing and again swallowing the crop gets an inflammation easily. Crop inflammation can become a decease which can kill the bird. Almost happened to mine when I was keeping him alone.

Modern books will all tell you to never keep budgies and other flock birds or animals living in groups (rabbits and guinea pigs for example) lonely because it is inappropriate to their species and as a good owner you should really do what is best for your pet and keep it as natural as possible.
This website here is good for information:
[link]

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CabbageWhite In reply to Lunchi [2009-02-27 07:21:23 +0000 UTC]

I can care really well for my budgie ánd my rabbit..

Stimpy came here when he was a baby, and so was my rabbit Rescal..

They're just used to it..

I swear, they are not alone.

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Lunchi In reply to CabbageWhite [2009-02-27 17:33:09 +0000 UTC]

Noone said you cannot care for them. But as both species are species which are very social and live in groups/flocks, it is only normal to not keep them solitary but at least in pairs or in groups if you really want to do something for them and keep them appropriate for their species - If you do not care about the pets, well thats a different thing...

Another question would be, if you do not care about the flock/group thing, then how do you feed them?
Appropriate to their species would be to feed the budgies with seeds mostly but also offer them fruits/veggies/salad from time to time and to give the rabbits mostly hay but also salad/veggies/little fruits and some of the food you can buy for them.
If you agree and if you do not feed them with sweets or human food, well then the next question would be: "Why do you feed them correctly and offer them enough time during the day to fly/run around freely but why are you not offering them the partner of their own species which they need as deeply as they need the correct food to stay happy and mentally healthy?"

A true owner who wants the best for his/her pets would provide them the best care possible and there a partner would be included. Cats and dogs do not need a partner but most rodents and parrots/parakeets and most other birds DO need one.
If you wanna do them a favor, just go and buy them a partner. Simple as that. There is no reason to refrain from it.

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CabbageWhite In reply to Lunchi [2009-02-27 19:51:59 +0000 UTC]

I do really care for them, and I love them.. As I said earlier, Rescal and Stimpy came here when they where just a few weeks old, they are used to live like this.

Stimpy eats seeds and he can eat by his own. If I eat fruits or veggies myself he always sits on the edge of my plate and eats together with me.
Also my rabbit Rescal gets normal rabbit food from the petshop I got him from. He also gets plenty of fruit and veggies. I would never give them anything that could be bad for their health.

If I would buy another budgie now, and I would put him or her in a cage together with Stimpy, they would fight till someone died… Also with the rabbits, a friend of mine had two rabbits together in one cage, but they were constantly fighting. They are in separate cages now. Because it just didn’t work. I tried to put three hamsters in a huge cage, I mean really huge. But they where also constantly fighting. I had to return them to the petshop because I didn’t want them to be hurt anymore.

I do the best I can to keep them happy, I really do. If I buy a partner for Stimpy right now I’m afraid the two will fight and eventually one will die… I just don’t want that to happen. He is my friend, and I’m his friend. A minute ago he was sitting on my chest like really fuzzy on one leg and he was making noises I learned him, while I was cuddling him. And now my rabbit Rescal is laying on my belly with his eyes closed.
Pleas don’t worry about my pets, they are happy, and I know that.

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Lunchi In reply to CabbageWhite [2009-02-27 20:28:27 +0000 UTC]

Wow that is sad with the rabbits fighting. I never heard of it before. Rest assured that it is not normal for budgies to fight if they are put together. Every normal budgie is very very happy to get a partner.
And I am again not claiming that you do not love your pets or do not care for them. Just saying flock birds should not be forced to be kept solitary.
If you are really so afraid to get him a partner, at least remember they are flock birds the next time you want to buy one (for example when Stimpy dies, but I hope he lives a long time) and buy two instead. If you buy them together, siblings or a pair or two males it will in 99% of all cases work out great. Just two females will usually fight.

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quisles In reply to Lunchi [2009-03-08 09:49:52 +0000 UTC]

Sorry this is really random, I just happened across your debate and felt like saying something.
I had two budgies before, and I got them when they were very young, they were siblings and grew up together, but they still fought so much that sometimes they would get injured.
So really, there are alot of cases, every animal is different so we really can't say what is "normal."

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Lunchi In reply to quisles [2009-03-08 13:13:48 +0000 UTC]

The case you mentioned, that two budgies fight very much is not usual. That happens maybe in one case of 1000, if not less often.

But as I said before, budgies live in huge flocks in Australia and they are social birds. Scientists even prooved, that the sounds they make when "talking to each other" in their own language, sends out special vibrations which causes the birds to be more healthy.

If they have no partner, they talk less and make less diverse sounds. Most lonely birds become very unactive and lots of them pluck themselves all feathers out because of their grieve.

If an animal lives in flocks or groups or swarms normally, one should never keep it lonely... That should be a natural thing to do for all owners. But as you can see in most cases, people tend to be very selfish. They want the budgie to be tame, to learn to talk, to concentrate on the owner instead of a partner bird.
Those are very selfish reasons, because those owners think only of themselves, and not of the bird.
What would the bird want? To be alone when the owner goes to school/work/parties/shopping tours? Or would it want to have a partner of the same species around to talk to/play with/feed it?
Would a bird want to fly around the whole day and play or would it want to have its feathers clipped and sit in a cage all day long?

If I am trying to talk some reason into these selfish bird owners, I don't do it tu argue but for the sake of those lonely birds.

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quisles In reply to Lunchi [2009-03-08 20:14:05 +0000 UTC]

I never said budgies aren't a flock bird.
I simply don't agree with the way you generalize things, such as saying "every budgie is very very happy to get a partner" and "selfish bird owners," I know you feel strongly about this issue, but this way of wording things is just irrational.
I am also not going to "justify" myself by telling you how I raised my bird, because I know that it was happy, and I don't need to get into some weird pseudo contest with you about it, you are not a vet.

I just came by to try and tell you that not all birds or humans are the same, it may not be wise to push your righteous views on everyone, because it may not always help.

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Lunchi In reply to quisles [2009-03-08 21:41:33 +0000 UTC]

no, no I do not generalize things, I have often accepted on other people that there are exceptions, even with wing-clipping!
As I said it is in most cases that the birds like to have a partner. Because I know so many owners and even breeders, who keep huge flocks. And they never had a problem with one of those birds, that it was fighting with the others.

I even know cases, one of my birds is one of them, who were kept alone and then joined a group after years of solitary, - and it worked out fine.
My budgie Kathi was kept solitary I think before a friend found her on the street and gave her to me.
First she only focused on me but finally she accepted the other birds and now they do everything together, even resting, feeding, preening at the same time.

So once more, I am not saying, that every bird behaves like this. I just say they behave like this in most cases (because it is their nature) and that many owners who keep them solitary have those selfish reasons (I talked to them and they told me those reasons!) but I am not saying EVERY owner is like that and EVERY bird. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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CabbageWhite In reply to Lunchi [2009-02-27 21:58:00 +0000 UTC]

I believe you that the budgies like to have a partner. And I'm not forcing him to live "alone" I just don't want to get him confused or scared, and so if I'd bought one, I don't want it to be confused or scared. With one budgie you can really get one on one with him or her, you can learn it talk and sing songs and it will be a friend you know. If you get a partner, you'll never be like, one with the little one, it will always focus on the other budgie. And I really want my pets to trust and love me like I trust and love them.

But I'll consider about buying two budgies next time n__n

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