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LadyClassical [2020-03-25 07:40:31 +0000 UTC]
J.K. Rowling may not have described Harry's appearance in detail, but she did have gigantic info dumps at the beginning and end of each book, and I found that a lot more irritating. I don't see what's wrong with describing someone's appearance in detail, because it gives me a better idea of what a character looks like.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to LadyClassical [2020-03-31 23:59:30 +0000 UTC]
I don't think everything is subjective. You'd have to explain your reasoning.
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LadyClassical In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2020-04-01 01:30:10 +0000 UTC]
What I mean is, almost any trope, cliché, etc. can be good if the author is good enough to pull it off.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to LadyClassical [2020-04-03 02:50:40 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but I also think you can break the rules better if you know them.
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LadyClassical In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2020-04-03 05:53:00 +0000 UTC]
Absolutely. Bucking the rules or following them, I don't care, as long as the author is good. But I can't say that J.K. Rowling handled her info dumps well. I will say that the books were originally intended for kids (at least the early ones were), and I don't think a kid will mind, because the info dump explains everything that happened. (Apparently Barty Crouch Jr. is a real blabbermouth under the influence of Veritaserum.)
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to LadyClassical [2020-04-03 07:10:44 +0000 UTC]
Fair point about J. K. Rowling.
And yeah, I think part of being a good author is being able to embellish or manipulate reality (which you can do better the more you understand it).
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LadyClassical In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2020-04-03 07:11:47 +0000 UTC]
So what about you, then? Do you like breaking the rules or following them? (I'm just curious.)
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to LadyClassical [2020-04-04 16:23:36 +0000 UTC]
Hmm...
Every individual situation is different.
Sometimes I realize my story would be better if I followed some rules (like using less adjectives). But sometimes an adjective can be used to give a sentence a certain ring to it.
There's so many different situations, I'm not sure if I can answer which I do most. I try to do whatever helps me achieve the goal I have for my story. As long as you have a certain standard you're reaching for, I think it's easier to use good judgment about when to break the rules or not. If you're trying to write a story similar to something else, say Lord of the Rings, odds are there are specific rules it would be wise to follow if you expect your story to be met with the same type of response from an audience. As long as you don't use "it's just my style" as an excuse, and are being wise in your judgment, I think you have to take each individual situation as it comes.
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Silversoulgirl34 [2019-09-26 21:40:25 +0000 UTC]
I have a rich,mean,snobby,bully character but she has a reason for it
1.Her parents don't spend time or much less care what she does,so whenever she is upset,they ignore her and give her money and then leave.
2.She never really express her feelings so she bullies to cover up her feelings or take her anger out
3.No one ever taught her what is love so she just flirts and tries to steal other people's date and thinks that's how it goes,and since she's insecure about her real look,and she's popular,she dresses up with revealing clothes,and people like her dressed like that.
4.She is jealous of a lot of people because she sees that they have people who love and care about them,but she don't
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KhaosDrawz [2019-05-05 03:26:25 +0000 UTC]
I just have to say, this was REALLY helpful to read!! Every time I think of writing a fanfiction or something I always can't resist having a self-insert. But I kept scrapping them because they were on their way towards heckin TONS of cringe and cliche. This gave me all sorts of ideas to avoid LOL
But again, thank you!! This is important to me and it means a lot. Thank you for making this!
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Vdwright [2019-02-26 20:08:14 +0000 UTC]
NGL, I can be a little cliche lol
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BladefulKnight [2018-12-26 04:39:13 +0000 UTC]
It is fun to reverse gender roles and literally everything you see in MakingFunOfStuff's list
#MaleTsundere
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GreyRoseKitII [2018-08-21 08:48:03 +0000 UTC]
I break Cliches a lot.
The brownhaired girl with no personality?
Me: The brown haired girl with multiple personalities. (I've seen the no personality brown haired girl cliche so much lol)
The goth who dresses in black
Me: I'll make my goth wear pink! (Goths who wear black are too depressing (even for me) lol)
The mean popular snobby girl
Me: I already have Jeanine? What do you want? (Yeah, that cliche will be eternally unbroken)
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Soursopful In reply to GreyRoseKitII [2019-04-22 08:56:46 +0000 UTC]
o hey lol how r u doing
(and yes i beak cliches a lot too lmao)
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GreyRoseKitII In reply to Soursopful [2019-04-22 22:08:23 +0000 UTC]
I'm pretty good. Just got back from a 16 day trip in Japan
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Kyharas [2018-07-07 11:51:38 +0000 UTC]
Im a bit new to writing fan fictions and I just wrote a couple chapters of an MLP one. Ive noticed a couple of the things on the list that I sorta did and others I don't care about and never plan to put them in any of my fan fictions. Anyone have advice to make my future chapters better and less.....filler?
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Corvus-monedula93 [2018-01-25 17:38:12 +0000 UTC]
I wonder in what kind of context you consider alcohol/drugs being a cliché or an element of an unprofessional writing? I think that they might not work out well for the story, if some (younger) writer who has no experience or knowledge about them decides to add them there to make their character "badass". On the other hand, in my opinions, a writer who really knows how those substances affect their user could use them as a really interesting way to support the story (for example make their user end up in different situations because of them affecting their behaviour or create a surreal feeling to the story by describing the world from the point of view of a person who has used LSD or cannabis).
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Corvus-monedula93 [2018-01-26 04:57:16 +0000 UTC]
It's more common in nonprofessional stories written by beginners as a way of being "edgy." Other than that I haven't read any stories about it, however.
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Corvus-monedula93 In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2018-01-26 15:41:29 +0000 UTC]
I once read a book that was about an ex-heroin addict's memories and involved naturally using that substance, I thought it was interesting to find out about her experiences, and of course, the drugs were the main theme there. In conclusion, maybe, if the descriptions of using alcohol/drugs really are necessary for the story or add something interesting to it, they are fine but on the other hand, if the writer just throws those topics there for the sake of having them in the story, then it doesnt work out well?
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Anuyushi [2017-11-01 16:41:41 +0000 UTC]
Aaahhhhh thank you. I hate it when people just barf a paragraph of description. I usually just skip the whole thing. When I write a description, I point out the obvious at first, then as things are looked at more, actions are done, things are said, then I add a little bit more if it's necessary to the topic. Nobody cares if the carpet is brown and fluffy. I also try to add the characters thoughts on everything around them.
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ExcitedHomie [2017-09-09 00:09:34 +0000 UTC]
The main problem, especially with creepypasta OCs, is how they try to use their tragic backstory (of which copies completely off of Jeff the Killer's story, of which was already bad,) as an excuse for them to kill innocent people who haven't accomplished their dreams, and then to make the reader feel more bad for said killer. You can't get a life back, once it's gone. I really love the cliches this points out when it comes to OCs.
It's still alright to use cliches, but try to use them carefully, and creatively for that manner.
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Digijun [2017-05-16 09:14:17 +0000 UTC]
is it bad i havent made any of this but i have too many inspirations from anime?
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UAs-Art [2017-04-25 22:50:59 +0000 UTC]
It's like looking back at all the old works I wrote when I was a teenager. XD
Awesome list, I hope it gets through to some writers out there!
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Half-Demon333 [2017-04-09 01:27:25 +0000 UTC]
I like this list, but you forgot something.
THE OVERLY POPULAR/HOT GIRL WHO RULES THE GODDANG SCHOOL
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TheHuntressOfDarknes [2017-01-02 01:24:39 +0000 UTC]
"Is this the kind of thing I want my grandchildren to see in years to come or is it something I'm going to want to burn in humiliation?" Is something I think of regularly and the main reason that I rewrite... ALOT. So, quite accurate!
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SmokingFoxx [2016-09-11 08:30:57 +0000 UTC]
I need you to look over all of my characters XD (because my plot works more with the character than I realized)
But it's always good to have some insight on these things... especially since I'm an amateur and I want to be an author
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CaptainWolfe11 [2016-07-28 07:13:39 +0000 UTC]
I admit I write, and enjoy writing, fanfics. And I know that they're just little outlets for fun and developing writing style, and that most of them I'd never let see the light of day, but I think that even fanfic writing can be artful. You're borrowing a world, a lore, and some of the characters, but you can still make the art.
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quailboyfriends [2016-07-08 00:55:48 +0000 UTC]
"BACKGROUNDS:
Turned crazy from being abused
Turned depressed from being abused
Turned anything from being abused"
these are all things that can happen to abuse survivors like ... are u saying that an abused person whos depressed because they were abused is cliche and trying to be funny and random because if so thats really rude ....
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Saomi1214 In reply to quailboyfriends [2016-07-12 02:12:09 +0000 UTC]
That's not what the article mean. Of course things will happen when a person is being abuse. What "cliche" here is meaning the drama is being overused. And just to let you know, yes, people are using the abuse topic to turn their character into the center of the attention. Rather than letting their character fighting with their own mentality and develop their own feeling, many Mary sue author turned their character into a victim and let other characters shelter these Mary-Sue
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scourge728 [2016-06-26 01:01:21 +0000 UTC]
to be fair the "random" type characters are usually used in humor stories
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TheWritingWZ [2016-06-19 14:30:43 +0000 UTC]
This cliche-list just made my day ^^
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BloodInTheTea [2016-06-08 12:05:18 +0000 UTC]
Is this an okay amount of description for a character's looks - "Looking into the mirror Victor notices he looks a mess, short dark green fur sticks out in odd positions, dirty and matted blackish green hair hangs low and looks greasy"
In the beginning of the story i did this - "Victor stands up and stretches, leaning forward as his wings burst out from his back and stretch as far as they can go"
I didn't mention the color of his wings, since i don't think that's to important. Note that i placed those descriptions in separate paragraphs, those two scenes are probably around ten to fifteen minutes apart in the actual story.
Are they good? i hope people can imagine what he looks like alright with those descriptions. If not i can always link them to his ref sheet, since that's the best place to see what he actually looks like.
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quailboyfriends In reply to BloodInTheTea [2016-07-08 00:56:50 +0000 UTC]
im no writer but if i read that first sentence id think its a bit of a run on sentence but its good and the second one is really good, it lets the reader know that victor has wings
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Lebender-Geist [2016-03-11 22:42:22 +0000 UTC]
A couple years ago, I wrote a fan fiction that I thought was REALLY good. I read this, and then went back to the fanfiction to read it, and then I had a cringe attack and thanked the fandom gods that I didn't post it on the internet.
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Glaceonlover2206 [2016-03-07 00:05:06 +0000 UTC]
I hate how everybody always has those depressed "BAWWWWW FEEL BAD FOR ME" characters.
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1jasminelemon [2016-01-29 00:58:19 +0000 UTC]
Omg, advice really. In truth, my fic is clich. I believe I rushed it a lot. I'm glad i found this. Now i can refix my work. Thanks so much, i'm laughing so hard at myself. You're an awsome advice giver in a very comedic way.
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EmmieyCathiey [2016-01-06 01:50:42 +0000 UTC]
Question; could the breast size technically be stated if the size makes the OC's back hurt? I know people who have large breasts who have back problems due to having large breasts.
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