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Description I love this show.

I don't even have a television, and I love this show.

Yay!

It's Me or the Dog copyright Animal Planet
Victoria Stilwell copyright...herself. >.>
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Comments: 50

Sleazinator [2014-01-06 04:07:11 +0000 UTC]

I used to love watching this show.

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peacefulinvasion [2013-11-14 07:42:24 +0000 UTC]

I like her methods. I used one of her methods to teach my dog not to tug on the leash. Instead of yanking it, or useing chock and pinch colars, i just stopped when she tugged on the leash until the dog sat down or stopped then continued. Eventually my dog realized "if i tug on the leash my owner will stop. If i don't tug on the leash, i get to the destination faster." XD She's doing much better now. (of course you should use this method when they are tiny puppies and can't yank your arm off)



I also agree with her on shock collars, pincher collars, and chocker collars. They are the most barbaric things in exitance. I've seen her get pissed off at somebody for using a shock collar on a dog and even had that person use the collar on themself at a low setting. Even lower then they had set for the dog. She'll make sure the owner gets to see the situation through the dog's eyes. 



The only time she's actually failed at training the dog was when the owners couldn't even be BOTHERED to follow her methods or put ANY effort into training the dog. And personally I don't blame her. No her methods arn't easy but they work. 



Positive working DOES work. I used it when I started to walk my dog. She used to not even be willing to go beyond the first step of my house. So I thought perhaps a bit of positive reinforcement would help. I praised her i used chicken, i pretty much was like "COME ON ROSIE COME ON GOOD GIRL YOUR DOING GOOD!" I looked like an idiot doing that, and i don't need to do it anymore (THANK GOD) but now when i say walk she jumps around getting excited and runs to the door and waits for me to grab the leash. Yup positive reinforcement might have worked a little too well for that. Walks a forbidden term in my house. 



I also used one of her tutorials to teach a dog how to not tug on the leash. She was a small dog but i was a bit worried it could end up causing harm to her throat with that collar of hers being the only thing stopping her. I just swapped to a harness and stopped when she tugged on the leash and waited till she stopped standing there for a few seconds before continuing. It actually works quite well. She never tugs on the leash anymore. 



She isn't a perfectly behaved dog that does all these fancy tricks. She doesn't return the ball when I say fetch *cause she doesn't know she's supposed to do that* but I can say her idea of positive reinforcement does wonders to a dog. You get MUCH further then you do using barbaric methods like shock collars, chock collars, and pinch collars. 




I just wish the people that use those things on their dogs would test them on themselves. They'd quickly take away those barbaric devices if they could ONLY feel the pain it causes the dogs. 

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Kingfisher-Gryphon [2012-12-26 20:32:02 +0000 UTC]

I love this woman.

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AWolfInAScarf [2012-12-26 20:03:12 +0000 UTC]

This lady is seriously my idol. I've used some of her tactics in my own training, and just... wow. I seriously wish to be like her.

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mls13 [2012-12-26 17:10:30 +0000 UTC]

Love her show, although haven't seen it in a while... hmm

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paniikkikohtaus [2012-08-23 19:11:54 +0000 UTC]

oh god yes

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bioopaw [2011-11-04 19:47:57 +0000 UTC]

hi dog

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SilverToraGe [2011-02-04 21:21:39 +0000 UTC]

shes much better than ceaser milan

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iluvsonicthehedgehog [2010-12-28 06:11:29 +0000 UTC]

Lol, I've been watching this show ever since it came out and I still love it! She is an awesome person! <3

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wolfsong14 [2009-11-07 19:13:44 +0000 UTC]

hehehe i love this show 2, victoria is amazing

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daysi-wolf [2009-11-05 18:13:24 +0000 UTC]

Victoria kicks Cesar Millan's ass ANY DAY

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ChristinaMandy [2009-08-13 13:24:18 +0000 UTC]

I LOVE her soooooooo much........she is so inteligent ...she has sense of humor...she's so sweet....ADORABLE...

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SwiftShepherd [2009-05-31 19:06:01 +0000 UTC]

Wow! Lovely!!!!!! I lovw her show! Today I just joined her site

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Marbletoast In reply to SwiftShepherd [2009-06-05 03:00:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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FloraTed [2009-01-03 07:10:26 +0000 UTC]

Awesome stamp, awesome show.

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Marbletoast In reply to FloraTed [2009-01-11 13:00:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, and yes, very. ^_^

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Arrin-Wolf [2008-11-19 01:22:58 +0000 UTC]

I love Victoria. I've been waiting for a stamp of her for a long time! I despise Cesar (go to [link] for more information), but Victoria is awesome. As a dog trainer myself, I based many of my methods from hers.

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peacefulinvasion In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2013-11-14 07:44:22 +0000 UTC]

You know I used to like Ceasar. Until I realized just HOW barbaric his methods were. 



I used some positive reinforcement with walking my dog. It used to be she was scared to leave the house. Now I say walk she runs to the door and waits for the leash wiggling her little butt. She also used to tug on the leash. I used one method she taught in this tutorial, XD she's gotten much better with the tugging on the leash. 

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Marbletoast In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2008-11-19 03:23:58 +0000 UTC]

And just wanted to add I now have read through the whole article, though haven't yet gotten to the linked ones. It has given me a lot of food for thought--thank you! This is the first place I have seen it effectively compared to horse training (not verbatim, but with the same vocabulary) and I got a much clearer picture than I believe I had.

I am much more familiar with the body language of equines than canines, so it was certainly educational. I'll be looking into both sides further now--thank you!

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Arrin-Wolf In reply to Marbletoast [2008-11-19 03:46:01 +0000 UTC]

No problem. Glad I could help influence your opinion. Thanks for being so open-minded about it. Alot of people I have discussed Cesar with got pretty nasty and insulting in the conversation.

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Marbletoast In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2008-11-21 05:19:18 +0000 UTC]

Nasty and insulting is useless. Thanks for not getting nasty as well. :]

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Marbletoast In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2008-11-19 02:48:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Glad you like the stamp, and thanks for the link. I was also looking all over for a stamp of her.

I've heard both sides of the issue, and I suppose I ought to take that out of my comment, since it is supposed to be just for Victoria, and not really about the Dog Whisperer and that on-going discussion. Though it is good to keep informed.

I do love Victoria. Thanks again!

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Hopeanuoli [2008-11-03 01:33:43 +0000 UTC]

Yay, finally I found a stamp for the show. <333 Thank you for making one.

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Marbletoast In reply to Hopeanuoli [2008-11-03 01:47:26 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome--glad you like it!

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HassySoda [2008-10-30 02:41:10 +0000 UTC]

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE
HER!

haha i love her show and how somtimes she can be comedic with her visuals.

like how she puts a paper cut out of the dog on top of the fridge and everyone else at the bottom xD

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Marbletoast In reply to HassySoda [2008-10-30 02:57:02 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha, yes, the magnet pack order is fun.

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HassySoda In reply to Marbletoast [2008-10-30 02:58:38 +0000 UTC]

i like that one episode where she was in the woods and she made 23940285092385035 signs with yellow paper saying stuff like "oh a rabbit" "hay wuts that over there!?!" "whats that smell?"

to represent the dogs distractions xD

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Mycatjewel [2008-10-12 20:22:33 +0000 UTC]

I love the show. Its so funny seeing a small British lady make those high pitched noises at dogs!

But I still think she looks like a dominatrix in the intro. What with her whip and black leather outfit.

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Marbletoast In reply to Mycatjewel [2008-10-13 15:04:54 +0000 UTC]

Yea, the whip and the leather suit is alarming.

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Mycatjewel In reply to Marbletoast [2008-10-13 17:22:37 +0000 UTC]

It is.

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Butterfly-Kissezz [2008-10-04 05:28:29 +0000 UTC]

That show rocks. I remember the one with the two young greyhounds and just wow. Awesome show! ^^

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Marbletoast In reply to Butterfly-Kissezz [2008-10-06 20:37:47 +0000 UTC]

It definitely is! ^_^

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swift-whippet [2008-10-01 15:23:27 +0000 UTC]

Using. I love her show and I feel like I've learned a lot from it. I can't wait for training classes with my future new puppy. Thanks for this!

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Marbletoast In reply to swift-whippet [2008-10-06 20:37:34 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it! Thanks for using!

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Idess [2008-09-27 15:50:19 +0000 UTC]

I'll be using this! I love Stilwell, she's a bright hope for TV dog trainers after the disaster of Cesar Millans techniques.

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Marbletoast In reply to Idess [2008-10-01 03:56:21 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it!

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sassawj [2008-09-18 01:07:17 +0000 UTC]

This stamp is great.

I really enjoy the show, It's Me or the Dog - Stilwell's training techniques are clearly effective, all with the use of positive training. I do not at all like the Dog Whisperer - Millan's work is aversive and dominance based. Too many people attempt his techniques at home with their own unruly dogs, which can be very dangerous and can cause physical/mental damage, other side effects too, if not used or proposed properly, when it states at the beginning of each show not to do such unless supervised by an expert. And what those people fail to understand is that Cesar Millan is not a dog trainer, he is a dog behaviorist.

I'm all for positive training.

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Marbletoast In reply to sassawj [2008-11-19 03:20:33 +0000 UTC]

Hey--just adding another comment here. Wanted to note that since you left this comment, and since I received another polite disagreement comment, I did even more research into both sides of the Millan issue. Right now, I won't vouch for standing on either side of said issue (though it has made me reconsider my original stance!), but learning more about what I thought I knew has been eye opening.

So thanks for the comment! Again!

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Marbletoast In reply to sassawj [2008-09-22 14:47:39 +0000 UTC]

Daaah, my computer corrected the spelling of Cesar's name.

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Marbletoast In reply to sassawj [2008-09-22 14:46:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

And in a sense I agree, but I like Millan's technique. His work doesn't endanger the dog physically or mentally when properly handled. Any technique can be wrongly and dangerously applied (even Stilwell's)--personally, I think the fault lies more in the viewer who doesn't take the advised caution rather than Caesar. In reality, both trainers are working from basically the same principles of dog behavior and pack order; Stilwell's is indeed more accessible to general public without special training, basically, which is undeniably a good thing, especially in the sense of it being a widely accessible television show. But even still, no one should work SOLELY from a television show to train their dog.

But for folks who watch the Dog Whisperer with the same regard they would watch, for instance, Parelli, Roberts, or the other Horse Whisperers, Millan is fascinating--and his work is positive; it just involves less treats and more natural behavior studies, like you said.

And Caesar says it too--it's not about dog training, but rehabilitation, which is definitely more of behavior study and development than a training with vocal commands and treats.

Anyway, all that to say thanks for the comment! woo!

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sassawj In reply to Marbletoast [2008-09-24 18:20:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh, don't get me wrong - I respect Cesar and his way with handling dogs, I just don't agree with how aversive based his work is. Nor am I shouldering all the blame on him when simpletons who have no idea what they're doing attempt his techniques at home. When an average Joe or Mary has a dog, for instance, with severe aggression towards children, the owner of the dog should hire a recommended behaviorist that specializes in the aggression department - not attempt altering that behavioral issue at home, as it can result in disaster, injury to either the dog or the owner/child, or it could even make matters worse - thus, the owner's mistake. But when an average Joe or Mary has a dog, for instance that barks nonstop, it's fairly simple if the owner is willing to make a commitment to stop his/her dog's excessive barking - of course, in a humane, non-aversive way.

That's just what I attempted to point out. I do not like aversive techniques. In my "experience", training all five of my dogs and working with some shelter dogs with positive reinforcement, even without treats or food, plenty of praise and enthusiasm goes a long way. My dogs go ecstatic when I praise them for going potty, even though most of my dogs have been potty trained for 5 & ^ years. They all just love hearing "Good Girl!"

Just my opinion.

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Marbletoast In reply to sassawj [2008-09-24 18:43:49 +0000 UTC]

And a totally valid one, certainly.

In the long run, It's Me or the Dog is still my favorite of the two shows.

(It's that making a commitment to work with the dog consistently over the long term that you mention that I think most people completely ignore anyway, no matter what method they ascribe to. x.x Unfortunately.)

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KiddoBradley [2008-09-05 05:58:03 +0000 UTC]

Awesome woman, awesome show.

Seeing her take control, and put the pets and owners in line, that dominance is rather sexy. lol

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Marbletoast In reply to KiddoBradley [2008-09-06 12:51:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the favorite! :3 It *is* an awesome show.

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metalik-fairy [2008-08-23 22:54:28 +0000 UTC]

Victoria is v. sexeh

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KiddoBradley In reply to metalik-fairy [2008-09-05 05:58:17 +0000 UTC]

Amen.

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Rad1986 [2008-08-02 14:47:07 +0000 UTC]

My parents (well, my mom anyway...) LOVE the Dog Whisperer! Mom got a dog that was neglected and possibly "lightly" abused from the shelter/adoption place and she says that the Dog Whisperer has helped so much!

What'd you use to animate it? I thought you didn't have an animation thing-a-ma-giggy?

~*~ Rad

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Marbletoast In reply to Rad1986 [2008-08-02 15:14:12 +0000 UTC]

Turns out Photoshop can do it. XD Narf!!

Yes, I like both shows a lot. Very like Natural Horsemanship, but with dogs. *is a fan*

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gumboland [2008-08-02 03:14:21 +0000 UTC]

I idolize Victoria. LOVE this show as well!

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Marbletoast In reply to gumboland [2008-08-02 15:16:34 +0000 UTC]

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