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MarcosCeia — Hind by the year 1910 by-nc-nd

Published: 2008-12-19 14:31:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 3538; Favourites: 49; Downloads: 117
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Description A little breathing room in an otherwise too Euro-centric series of maps

The premise of this map is a stronger Persia during the early Islamic expansion, barring any attempts from Arabia from expanding east. With this, Buddhism in northern India is not overwhelmed, and so forth. Hope you enjoy it

I plan to develop more this idea with more mapping, stay in tune for more news!
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Comments: 6

Kurarun [2008-12-20 17:23:07 +0000 UTC]

That's crazily awesome. I wish I could do maps this well.

Am I right in thinking that there are no Muslim nations in India? Does that mean that there is no Islam ITTL?

Also, did you use a base map with the longtitudinal and latitudinal lines on it already, or did you draw those yourself? If it's the former, could you link to where you found the base map, please?

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MarcosCeia In reply to Kurarun [2008-12-21 05:12:34 +0000 UTC]

Hey, thanks! Yes, there are no Muslim nations in India, although a few Tamil and Malabari city-states have a sizable Muslim and Arab minority. Northern India is mostly Buddhist, with Manichean, Zoroastrian and Hindu minorities.
Islam does exist ITTL, but with its influence restricted to the Arabian Peninsula , outlying regions and in Eastern Africa shoreline, where Swahili never had the chance to become lingua franca.
I've used a map from William Shepherd's Historical Atlas. Can't find the link now, but I think it'd be pretty easy to find on the internet.

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MrSammy In reply to MarcosCeia [2008-12-22 07:53:20 +0000 UTC]

Just to correct you on one point there, the North is mostly Hindu with Buddhist and Islamic minorities. The main religion in the North is Hinduism by a huge margin, defiantly not Buddhist.

still a nice thought fictitious map.

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MarcosCeia In reply to MrSammy [2008-12-22 14:25:09 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I know the main current religion in northern India is Hinduism, with a Islamic minority, and that Buddhism is a tiny minority across India, specially in the North. This map, however, is not from the present times. It diverged in the 7th century, with a less victorious Sharhbahraz, which leads to a smaller and stronger Sassanid Persia in the time of Islamic expansion.
So, North India remains with a strong Buddhist minority, which is expanded in the following centuries by the conversion of the Central Asian nomad invaders (Uyghurs, Mongols, Nogai, etc) in the 13th and 14th centuries, and their endorsement of Buddhism.
Thanks for the comment and for the patience!

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MrSammy In reply to MarcosCeia [2008-12-25 10:53:25 +0000 UTC]

Are you suggesting that the development of Hinduism was a result of Islamic expansion?

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MarcosCeia In reply to MrSammy [2008-12-26 02:21:01 +0000 UTC]

Sorry?
I've meant that, with no other outside competing religious forces in the North, combined with state sponsorship from later Central Asian nomads, a higher percentage of Buddhists in North India could be obtainable. North India was the cradle of Buddhism, after all, and the Islamic expansion was very well-timed with Buddhism nadir in the region.

This map is only a part of a bigger picture that I plan to do, but right now I've three other maps on the making. I hope I can clear the picture with the sequels, though

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