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otnesse [2023-05-23 03:18:26 +0000 UTC]
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otnesse [2018-09-09 11:32:19 +0000 UTC]
Say, if you're open to ideas, I think I have a pretty good suggestion for another Pauline-related artwork.
So here's the deal: There was this show a while back known as "Sex and the City" that deals with four Manhattan women who are defined by... well, their constant sex lives. It got a thematic sequel known as "Girls", which dealt with a similar premise, but was a bit more dank about it. The show's also notorious for the female fans having a tendency to think that that was how women are supposed to act. I was thinking you could make an artwork (heck, a comic even) where Pauline watches a few seconds of SatC before turning it off and saying something along the lines of "I live in a similar city, but we don't act anything like those four tramps". After all, being the mayor of New Donk City (which is pretty much the Mario equivalent of New York City), and besides which, pre-retcon anyways, she was a New Yorker herself, she DEFINITELY would have had personal direct experience with how New Donkers/New Yorkers are like. It's extremely unlikely Pauline would have been like the women in SatC or Girls, or that she'd even enjoy the show (heck, I'm doubtful that ANY of the principle females in Mario would have been like those girls in those shows or even enjoy it save for MAYBE Birdo, and Birdo has her own fish to fry if you get my drift there). As an added bonus, it probably would also act as a response to those who call Pauline a bimbo as well. So, what do you think? Good idea or not? I guess I could do it if you don't want to do it.
EDIT: Never mind, saw you don't do commissions. Well, guess I'll do it then. Either way, again, good PTPW artwork.
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Maripolifan In reply to otnesse [2018-09-09 23:54:04 +0000 UTC]
Well, I might not do commissions at the moment but I'm open for doing gifts. Your idea seems to be well thought-out, but there's one problem, I have neither seen Sex and the City nor Girls before. The few things I do know about the first show is from parodies in other series-
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Poenix369 [2018-09-04 02:35:07 +0000 UTC]
PERFECT WAIFU <3
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MarioLuigi25 [2018-07-08 23:31:46 +0000 UTC]
All of which are true btw
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Shipping-Guy In reply to Maripolifan [2018-07-11 06:24:59 +0000 UTC]
JA wie immer :/ Irgendwann schmeiß ich das tablet weg, aber noch brauch ich es leider ich wollte eigentlich so perfect schreiben :/
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otnesse [2018-07-03 21:17:25 +0000 UTC]
Heh, if it was at nighttime, it would be so similar to Batman you'd probably get a lawsuit from DC Comics.
Though technically, Pauline has it easy compared to Bruce Wayne/Batman, or heck, Commissioner Gordon even, since at least New Donk City is presumably corruption/crime free (Bowser's brief ruckus during the events of Odyssey aside), while Gotham City in all of its incarnations save for MAYBE Injustice (and even that arguably was corrupt in a completely different manner thanks to Regime Superman) is practically infamous for its high crime and corruption rate.
And yeah, I remember that quote from The Dark Knight. That was a good movie. I also watched the first season of Gotham, but I ultimately quit at the suggestion of someone online (Of course, I wasn't really impressed when I learned that they apparently turned Penguin and Riddler into lovers in Season 3 despite the latter already crushing on a girl in Season 1 and 2). The Jerome scenes on Youtube were pretty awesome, though.
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Maripolifan In reply to otnesse [2018-07-06 22:08:48 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! xD
Yeah, Pauline does have it pretty easy in ND City. No corruption, no mafia, no Dons. ND City compared to Gotham is arguably like heaven compared to hell. ND City probably doesn't even need a police station. xD
As for the TV show Gotham, I can give the all-clear, the Riddler and the Penguin do NOT become lovers (to many fans' chagrin). Instead they end up wanting the other dead
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otnesse In reply to Maripolifan [2018-07-09 00:59:55 +0000 UTC]
Well, it's certainly comparable to Metropolis if we're going to go by DC Comics comparisons, that much I can say. As far as police stations in NDC, eh, personally, I would assume that the city probably is crime free precisely BECAUSE it has a really effective police force (think along the lines of Japan's police forces, I guess. You know, the guys with those pillbox stations that we see in the Pokémon anime.). Stop and frisk as well as little tolerance to small-scale crime, I guess (and like it or hate it, at least those gets results). In fact, I'd probably envision Mayor Pauline's term as being closer to, say, that of former NYC mayor Rudy Guiliani if anything (she's certainly better than the current NYC mayor Bill de Blasio at least, the latter of whom has often sided with the criminals and even made anti-cop remarks, even going as low as to refuse to even attend, let alone helm, a police funeral, protesting at G-20 instead, which even his fellow friends in politics called him out on. Ignoring his politics, he should at least try to attend a police vigil, if for no other reason than to at least ATTEMPT to care enough about the city to give the appearance of actually respecting the police force and thus the rule of law.).
Well, at least Riddler and Penguin are not lovers (and personally, unlike the fans, I'd prefer they not go that route. It had already been irritating watching Barbara Kean embrace it in the first season as it was, especially when she wasn't even that in the comics), and at least they're trying to off each other now. Still, the fact that they even considered making them, or at least Penguin, that without even so much as implying that they're gay at all in prior seasons (not to mention most certainly weren't that in the comics and other mediums, and if anything, Penguin was downright lecherous to women and never the type to go for men.) wasn't something I particularly appreciated in the first place. If they really wanted to make them gay, they should have done it from the start of the show, not wait a couple of seasons for it to happen without so much as even hinting at it beforehand (and just so we're clear, by "hinting at it", I mean something akin to, I don't know, how they hinted that General Blue was gay in Dragon Ball, or how Otokosuki was gay in Dragon Ball Z, or even how Rospark was gay in both story options of Mega Man ZX: Advent, or, heck, as much as I really hated what they did to her, what they did with Barbara Kean in the first season even [well, technically she was bisexual rather than a lesbian, but still...].).
Still, at least Gotham right now is better than Supergirl is right now from what I could gather. At least they didn't shill for certain real-life politicians in a not-so-subtle manner (President Marsden...), nor pushing for certain politics or social issues in a very blatant manner (one thing I can never forgive the writers for was their needlessly changing Alex Danvers' sexuality in season 2. I'm sorry, but like I said earlier with Penguin and Riddler, if they wanted her to be gay, they should have made that apparent from the start of the show, no ifs, ands or buts, they shouldn't have waited until Season 2, especially when Season 1 if anything implied she was heterosexual via that flashback in Season 1 of her attempting to get a date and her trying to date Maxwell Lord, and also using a rather stupid excuse to make her that in the first place that if anything just insults socially awkward people by painting them with a giant brush needlessly [let me get this straight... she's a lesbian because she's not good at interacting with men socially?! Ah, I am clinically diagnosed with aspergers, so I'm not exactly someone who can be classified as being particularly good at socializing with anyone, let alone the opposite sex, yet I am heterosexual, actually having physical attraction to the opposite sex. Besides, she didn't seem to have any problems with Maxwell Lord in terms of social interaction, or that kid she tried to ask out in that flashback for that matter {and her failing to get the date that time wasn't even her fault in the first place, as Kara ended up rushing to save a bunch of kids on that crashed bus with the chaos that ensued just having the kid and her not going out as a result.}.].), at least one of those even managed to wreck continuity because of it (I'm specifically thinking of when Maggie's father, in an obvious reference to Trump's 2016 election promise, mentioned that America wanted to "build a wall" across the border, and that was despite the fact that Marsden is still president, and she's the one who effectively legalized a bill allowing aliens to live openly in the prior season. Seriously, writers, if you're going to make those lame remarks against our current president, at least TRY to keep it within the continuity of the show rather than causing a train wreck?). That show had a lot of potential, yet it got squandered by the time it moved to the CW by forcing down our throats political messages (look, I wanted to watch an adaptation of one of DC Comics lines and see the hero, male or female, stop the criminal of the week and save the day with no political or social agenda whatsoever other than giving a classic tale of good versus evil and, you know, actually being entertaining. I don't want to get lectured at about embracing multiculturalism or how our current president is a fascist, how cops are racist, how guns are bad regardless of who uses them, or stuff like that, especially not if they force it into the storyline as haphazardly and bluntly as they did these past seasons.). To be honest, I actually wish THAT show got cancelled instead of Scorpion after this season.
Sorry for the long winded rant, but, yeah, I wasn't happy with some of the writing directions for Gotham from what I could gather or especially Supergirl (in fact, I was so disgusted with what they did to Supergirl in Season 2 that I didn't even bother with Season 3, only reading up on it at most, and I hear that Season 4's not going to be much better, either. Let's just say that Birdo is going to be Kara's new boss at Catco next season if you get my drift [you know, how in the Japanese version of Super Mario Bros. 2, Birdo, or rather, Catharine was gender confused?].). In any case, whether New Donk City has high levels of corruption or not [and it fortunately doesn't AFAIK], Pauline's definitely doing a very good job running New Donk City, and is definitely shown to actually care for her city's denizens' well being. At least she doesn't run it like Mayor Daly did with Chicago (and that's the guy who infamously declared "Vote Early, Vote Often" in reference to ballot stuffing), or Mayor de Blasio of New York City, New Donk City's inspiration, for that matter. If there was an election and I were a citizen of that city, I'd certainly vote for her after seeing just how much of a dang good job she did running New Donk City (and let me tell you, it's not exactly easy to get me to vote for a politician, Republican or Democrat, since I tend to require pretty high standards. Sure, during the actual election, I might vote one way if it's the best they've got, especially if one of them actually shows some promise towards ending a certain court decision, but for primaries, I tend to vote based on what I think needs to be done, even if the person doesn't actually make it beyond the primaries, so if I am saying I'd actually vote for her specifically for how dang well she ran the whole city, you know she definitely impressed me significantly.).
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Maripolifan In reply to otnesse [2018-07-11 01:42:03 +0000 UTC]
Idk, but ND City might have extremely strict laws and regulations and the population might generally be more disciplined than the average. Compare gun violence in Japan to the one in the US, for example; in Japan there's barely more than 10 gun deaths in a YEAR, whereas in the US this amount equates to one single HOUR. Anyways, these low numbers in Japan are all thanks to the strict regulations, so the same is likely to be the case in New Donk City.
Actually, the writers of Gotham had developed a friendship between Edward and Oswald beforehand; that friendship really blossomed in the beginning of the 3rd season, however, after Oswald had been elected mayor. Yeah, the Penguin turning out gay really was a surprise to anyone who'd known him before the show, but during the first two seasons of Gotham, Oswald had never really been portrayed to be attracted to either gender until he fell in love with Ed during his campaign, so, considering that, it isn't even too far-fetched (except that isn't accurate to the comics, of course).
As for the whole Supergirl stuff, I can't really comment on that; I've watched only a few episodes but stopped shortly after, mainly because of the time it was aired and the lack of tension (?). I barely remember anything about the show...
What you're telling me about the current mayor of New York City actually sounds like it would be about Gotham, seriously.
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otnesse In reply to Maripolifan [2018-07-11 03:28:02 +0000 UTC]
Well, it's more to it than just strict regulations in Japan. For instance, we've got the fact that gun ownership among citizens, unlike here in America or the rest of the world, never actually formed a cultural element for the Japanese in the first place, in fact, any chance of it having a cultural element was squashed with the Sword Hunt law passed on August 29, 1588. Plus, a large part of the reason Japan's gun control system even worked was due to extensive police presence, with Japanese culture also deferring to absolute respect to authority figures, including, you guessed it, police men, to such an extent that you have to be 100% obedient if a policeman or some other authority figure orders you to do something, something that's even briefly alluded to in Metroid: Other M with the infamous "authorization" mechanic (and there's also evidence that it results in a loss of civil liberties, though that's not quite relevant to the topic at hand.). Me personally, I support the second amendment within how its defined especially in terms of self-defense, but I also am a bit hesitant in doing any further support than that, mostly because I've read up on how some radical elements of the French Revolution for example actually USED shotguns to execute people, and the crowds laughing at the helpless sap's bleeding out (and some of the groups who did this, like the Cordeliers Club, who arguably made the Jacobins seem moderate by comparison, actually were inspired by our own founding documents from what I've heard). I wouldn't support arming a lawless mob who wants to cause a riot or make things like the general view of the Wild West of no law or order, in other words.
Yeah, I remember that they briefly met in Season 1, and seemed to hit it off well. I guess you've got a point regarding Oswald never really coming across as having any leanings initially to either gender (in fact, the closest he has to a close girlfriend he has is his own mom if I must be honest). And eh, I pretty much gave up on expecting it to toe to the comics after they decided to have Sal Maroni gunned down by Fish Mooney in the Season 1 Finale after he insulted her one time too many (not to mention had Barbara Kean and Jim Gordon break up, and have the latter... well, go mad and kill her parents).
Supergirl Season 1 was pretty good, though that being said, even had some warts like pushing some SJW elements (though it was nowhere near the same level as Season 2, or Season 3 and 4). It's definitely after the move to the CW on Season 2 where things turned for the worse for that show.
And yeah, de Blasio probably would fit in with the corrupt elite of Gotham with his policies. Actually, I'd argue he'd be even worse due to his rhetoric of doing it for "the people" despite not giving a darn about anything but his Communist rhetoric. At least the corrupt elite of Gotham were somewhat honest and open about being corrupt and only in it for themselves. That's the main reason why I'm pretty sure Pauline's probably going to be at the very least pro-cop to Guiliani levels in her policies as mayor (granted, maybe not to the extent of Japan, but certainly pro-cop in that she doesn't engage in anti-cop rhetoric or side with cop killers). One thing's for certain though: Based on some of her quiz answers (namely, the fact that she likes freshly baked cakes rather than "packaged" ones), she definitely is not going to be like Hillary Clinton (let's just say that the one time Clinton made a reference to baking, back in 1992, it was in a rather sarcastic reference to homemakers as well as her job at a law firm.).
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Maripolifan In reply to otnesse [2018-07-17 02:02:40 +0000 UTC]
The US are arguably the only country where every citizen is entitled to bear an arm. Oh well. But that doesn't change the fact that fighting fire with fire is nonsensical...
I was really surprised to find how many roles were changed quite drastically in the show. I honestly liked Barbara and Jim together, but I didn't like the development of Barbara's character throughout the seasons. I mean she and Gordon were supposed to have a daughter in the comics. In the series, however, I thought it was the Ogre who killed her parents and not her?
As for Oswald, his relationship with his mother was, at times, really strange to watch; they were... awkwardly close.
I watched maybe 6 episodes, or so, of Supergirl, but it wasn't quite captivating enough, so I turned to watch The Flash. What do you think about that series (if you've seen it)?
I think we can conclude that Pauline does her job, and she also does it properly-
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otnesse In reply to Maripolifan [2018-07-30 03:21:41 +0000 UTC]
Well, to be fair, we WERE founded after having to rebel from Great Britain, which DID mandate we not have any weapons as they imposed some harsh sanctions on us.
Yeah, agreed with you there, especially regarding Barbara and how she was ultimately mishandled (having her somehow deciding to cheat on Gordon for Renee Montoya was definitely a very low point for her character, and not even bother to formally break up with him beforehand). And yeah, the penultimate episode did strongly imply the Ogre was the one who did her parents in, not Barbara (that was definitely a shocking swerve in the finale when she revealed she, not Ogre, killed them). Yeah, let's just say there's very minimal chance of Barbara Gordon/Batgirl being born at this point.
And now that you mentioned it, Oswald's... Norman Bates relationship with his mom definitely seemed very off.
As far as the Flash, to be honest, the only episodes I've even watched of that series were the crossover episodes up to Season 2. They're okay for the most part (the whole Invasion one was definitely one of the better highlights of the season, as at least it didn't have much political or social elements.), though I did have slight issues like with the Musicmeister two-parter (the writers ARE aware, for example, that the... ah, dads of the "Juliet"-esque character in Musicmeister's musical world, had they been nearly as openly gay as they were, are more likely to be lined up to a wall and shot for it than be the heads of the crime syndicate they're leading, ESPECIALLY considering they're supposed to be the Italian Mafia, right?).
And yeah, we can definitely agree about that regarding Pauline and her job.
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Maripolifan In reply to otnesse [2018-07-30 17:52:00 +0000 UTC]
The writers of Gotham really need to handle this issue with Barbara, and, apparently, they only have 13 more episodes to do so. Idk, they could make her forget all the insane and horrible things she's done and make her fall in love with Jim again. That would definitely be cheap, but having Barbara cheat on Jim with another woman really wasn't any better...
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otnesse In reply to Maripolifan [2018-07-30 18:10:46 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, agreed with you there, they really need to fix her character quick ESPECIALLY if they wish to keep Batgirl around instead of ensuring she's never born. I also suspect that the only reason they turned Barbara into a villain after Season 1 was because she got a lot of complaints by viewers for how she was depicted, especially after she uncharacteristically proceeded to cheat on Jim for Renee Montoya. And that was definitely a very low point for her character as well, especially when the immediate prior episode had her literally risking her life (even if foolishly) in an attempt to save Jim from being assassinated by the mob, and overall she actually DID attempt to aid Jim in his quest to eliminate corruption in earlier episodes, even if she did screw up a few times. As badly handled as she was and whatever flaws she may have had, at least she prior to the second half of Season 1 actually DID attempt to help Jim and actually WAS loyal to him. Shame that she got screwed over due to complaints by the viewers, and now she's got a big hurdle to cross especially if they're going to ensure their daughter's existence thanks to the hole they dug for her. In a way, what happened with Barbara in Gotham reminds me of the mishandling Peach got in Super Mario Sunshine (Peach also ended up trying to help Mario prove his innocence, only to get ignored, and then she got kidnapped too easily even regarding her reputation on such by Shadow Mario, and that's not even getting into the infamous introduction of Bowser Jr. Though at least Peach never turned into a psychopath and one of Mario's worst enemies in any of the games unlike Barbara.).
I'd prefer avoiding going the route you suggested regarding forgetting those things Barbara did to get them back together, but as you indicated, that may be one of the few options left to salvage her character, not to mention any chance of Barbara Gordon being born (especially after the whole thing of her cheating on Gordon for Montoya). Talk about a rock and a hard place regarding this...
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Maripolifan In reply to otnesse [2018-07-31 23:25:15 +0000 UTC]
Well... Peach definitely had that grin of a psycho when she entered the stage and annihilated some enemies in Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle...
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otnesse In reply to Maripolifan [2018-08-01 01:23:19 +0000 UTC]
You're going to have to show me a clip of Peach doing that, because I haven't even played that game and thus wouldn't know anything on that bit.
Though to be fair, the Rabbids weren't exactly the most well-received characters anyway, and besides which, even Mario has shown some... well, questionable reactions to how an enemy is defeated (Mario saying "That is-a so nice!" upon Bowser falling into lava and turning into Dry Bowser in New Super Mario Bros. comes to mind).
Still, the most important thing is that at least Peach and Mario are still at the very least best friends (I'm not going to go into whether they're romantic or not, since you have your views, and besides, I don't care all that much about shipping anyways, being completely neutral to the whole thing), which is still much better than what happened between Barbara Kean and Jim Gordon, where she became psychotic and, at least until she nearly committed suicide by jumping off the church, was REALLY dedicated to making Jim's life a living hell, and Jim Gordon pretty much hates her at this point and time, refusing to forgive her even when she attempted to reform, meaning they can't even hope to be friends, let alone a loving couple, not without outright ignoring past episodes anyway.
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Sweet-corn-flakes [2018-06-29 00:21:08 +0000 UTC]
Gotham is a great show
That pose reminds me of Wonder Woman for some reason
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ShadowNinjaMaster [2018-06-28 23:07:38 +0000 UTC]
She reminds of the scene in Injustice where Bruce Wayne looks over Gotham, totally awesome.
Nice work.
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Maripolifan In reply to cartoonfanboyone [2018-06-30 01:51:18 +0000 UTC]
Pauline The Perfect Waifu
... I couldn't think of a proper title ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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