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Published: 2009-07-21 10:33:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 1867; Favourites: 65; Downloads: 106
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Spherical panoramic (360° by 180°
consisting of 100 photos... due to only having an 18mm lens and no panoramic head... I was REALLY cautious to do a LOT of overlapping on this one as I had done some over the summer with disappointing results that could not be resurrected!This was from above all the lakes and shows quite a view! The Remarkables are in the center and to the left of them you can see the Cardrona range and Coronet Peak, and to the right you can see Lake Wakatipu.
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Pre wide angle lens and pano tripod head!
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wooooooooo Great amazing!
plz can i use 28 mm ??
tell me more about this technik
i like it very very much
thank u
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Well if you want to make a spherical panorama using a 28mm lens you will just need to shoot more photos. I would search for tutorials on how to take "Spherical panoramas" - It is quite complicated to explain on here.
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Let me know how you get on!
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Was the stitching automated by computer or done by hand? Either way must have taken forever.
I crashed my computer trying to stitch together 46 photos together with 6gb of RAM. =\
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I used PTGui Pro - some custom control points had to be made to help the program but all in all it was relatively painless.
I only have 2GB RAM and manage to stitch around a hundred just fine... not sure whats going on with your computer! May I ask... windows?? teehee - Sorry!
Try Hugin for some better stitches - free standalone program for pro stitching!
Thanks for the comment!
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I think it's probably more to do with Adobe CS4's code-bloat than with Windows.
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Probably, try out that stand alone program
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Woah 100 images dude!
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i know! BIG file! It will be so much easier with a wide angle and a nodal ninja!!
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That's a beautiful panorama. How did you stitch the photos together?
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PTGui Pro... the best you can get! Can be time consuming when the program cant find control points and you have to put them in manually but it is the best program by far... if you dont want to pay... try Hugin
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Another amazing photo of yours. This park is realy beautiful. Great job!
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WOW! Wonderfull pano, and pretty amazing how you naild it without a pano head! Do you know Nodal Ninja? They have quite affordable panoramic heads! I use an NN3, and it's really cool
Why don't you add a viewer like this: [link] ?
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Yeah Im wanting to get one but im a poor student and want to get a wide angle lens first! Im trying to sell as much as possible right now to try get some money together for it! NN3 is the next thing on the list! I may actually ask my dad who is a tooling engineer if he can make me one on the CNC machine at work... then Ill just buy the rotator etc.
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You lucky bastard 
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Like what? It is quite fortunate!
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Many modify their panorama heads to use it for aerial photography by mounting the camera on a kite. Others add a pole between the ninja and the rotator, allowing them to shoot from a height of around 10 meters. For the perfect 360 pano sometimes it is not ideal, that you must have the legs of the tripod below the camera: custom tripod designs that allow non horizontal placement of the ninja head would also be helpful.
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Oh I see where your going with that... then you would have a decent job cloning out that portion when you are photographing back towards the tripod tho... usually I can get rid of most of the tripod legs (below camera) by using my final handheld Nadir shot... tho I guess you wouldnt have a handheld nadir if you were using a pano head!
Id be keen to pick your brains in terms of the kite thing... check out Tristan Shu - His website is [link] and if you go to Portfolio - Action and make sure 360°VR is selected at the bottom. View the 1st one that pops up which has a single image of a skier right infront of where the photo(s) were taken... which looks awsome with no trace of the tripod being anywhere near there but seems a whole lot more simple than the two on the 4th row down with the snowboarder and mountainbiker sequences in the spherical panos... I DO NOT understand how he did this... could you please try figure it out? Also see his spherical panos while paraponting... surely you would need to do this in a single shot as he is moving! Can you understand it all?
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Just wow! That guy is insane
In fact the one with the single skier looks more difficult, than the one with the biker and the snowboarder. What he did, was to do a nadir image first probably from hand. That would be the place where he puts the tripod later. Than he can do a complete round shoot + zenith. With the round shot he probably had the camera slightly face lower than horizon, so that he need not use too much from the nadir image that was taken from a different angle, so for that he will need to use view point correction in PTGui while stitching. Finally he locks the camera in the direction where the action will take place, and have the biker/skier do the trick. He probably used a camera that has a pretty large buffer memory allowing lots of pictures to be taken in series. With the biker he had to turn the camera during the shooting of the series, but with the snowboard guy he only needed to use a circular fish eye. (Notice that everything happens in one half of the image.) Finally he stitches the panorama without the siker/biker, and adds the series shots to the project as in active images. When he creates the panorama he exports the extra images as layers, and in photoshop he can reveal them one by one.
God... I'm not sure it's easy to understand the way I wrote it down, but I hope you can put it together
The one with the skier going downhill... I have no freaking idea how he did that. I know how I would do it, but I'm pretty sure that he didn't do that
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How would you do it then?
I understood all that just fine, but how do you "add the series shots to the project as in active images"? I use PTGui Pro... so does he, he also uses a "shaved" Nikon 10.5mm Fisheye on his Canon 5D (meaning the lens hood has been cut/shaved off)
He reckons it takes him about 6 shots to get the spherical pano.
When adding these in active images (sequence shots) would he have them alined in the pano but not showing, what would appear in photoshop afterwards? A complete image with the layers hidden or would you have to import them and line them up by eye?
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To make a spherical panorama in 6 shoots you need a circular or fullframe fisheye lens. I usually take 6 round shot images to make stitching easier, but 4 is enough... besides the round shoots you need a nadir and a zenith, i.e. an image of what is under you and over you. For a full frame camera like the 5D (or a Nikon D3) you would need a 15mm fisheye to cover the sensor with the image circle, or a 12mm circular fish eye, that would draw the larges possible image circle on the sensor that still fits. (That means you would have a lot of unused black aria on the image.) For APS-C sized sensors (most digital cameras) you need a 10.5mm lens to cover the sensor with the smallest possible image circle or an 8mm fisheye that draws the largest possible image circle that still fits entirely into the image. Using a shaved 10.5mm on a fullframe sensor camera is similar to using a 12mm circular fisheye, but it will draw a smaller circle, leaving a larger black area behind.
What I meant by "add the series shots to the project as inactive images", is that you add them to the project, but set the blend priority to 0. You will have 6 or 8 photos with no action on them and blend priority set to 100, and the action shots with blend priority 0. Than the images will be aligned, but only the action less images will appear on the stitched image. At this point you will have to chose photoshop psd our layered tif as output format, and than if you open that up in photoshop you will have the stitched image as the background layer, and all of the source images (including the action shoots) as other invisible layers. Using layer masks you can reveal some part of the action shots for each image. Well... at least that's how I would do it...
As for the skier: I would walk down to the place where I want to take the panorama, do the nadir at an angle, and than set up the tripod shoot the round shoot, and the zenith. (Because I start with the nadir, I won't have a trace of the tripod.) When I'm done with all that I would have the skier come downhill following my footsteps, so that he hides my steps, and do a sharp turn in front of the tripod. Just before the sharp turn, I would take a picture.
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Thats helpful! Thanks man! I didnt know that you could do that with the action shots being blended but not appear... I also didnt know you could export it as a psd and have all the layers in there! That may be helpful at some other time too!!
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Your welcome!
There are very nice tutorials on the official website of PTGui. You should read them, as they tell you a lot about the nice features in PTGui, like the layered export
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