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I thought you were never supposed to stack two panels atop another on the left...
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word balloons are part of a comic book. so they should be incorporated into the final design of the pages.
these rules of "absolute" storytelling are fun to say but have little practical value unless you are going to be a cookie-cutter douchebag your whole career.
if everyone followed the rules, there would be no Mignola or Miller. all we'd have are X-Men books. that would suck.
now, this page isn't my strongest, but i have to draw over 90 pages and mix things up otherwise lose the reader. as for the panel flow, you should notice that i created the letter "U" in the first three panels. add word balloons to those and your eye goes where i want it to go.
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... well I did have big plans on being a cookie cutter douchebag, but, upon careful consideration...
I hear what you're saying and you're definitely more of a creative storyteller than I am. I was just surprised to see someone successfully "break the rules". I guess it's true; learn the rules so you know how to break the rules.
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absolutely - things also change over a large run of pages too. you can make your own visual vocabulary.
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Yeah, I need to get a lot more pages under my belt before I start getting to where you are.
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Who told you that? If you work the information within properly, you can break all the storytelling 'rules'...
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I did see how you used flow in one of the earlier pages to force the eye, it's less obvious in this one. I suppose you could always use word balloons to do it.
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Well, good storytelling should require no balloons or color, as Joe Kubert used to say. I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here though- Zach's a really good storyteller.
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I agree with that. Also Zach clearly knows what he's doing. As for Joe Kubert, I'm still sorta bitter about the school. I had high expectations and... well, I guess if you have nothing nice to say...
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Lol! Understood. For me, it was awesome, pretty much life-changing. But I know others did not have the same experience.
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Oh it was Awesome alright! I just had a few disadvantages that kept me from reaping the full benefits of JKS. I thought there would be some sort of stewardship into the professional world and unless the school picked you as one of it's apprentices it was sink or swim. I'm not much of a sink or swim type of guy.
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Hmmm... I didn't have that experience. I found that you got what you put into it. Many of my classmates did not care or work hard enough to make the school work for them, and they had a similar dissatisfaction with the end result. I put a lot into it, pretty much the whole of myself at the time, fully committed. And it worked out. I think lots of things in life are like that though...
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Well I did give it my all and my efforts were recognized by being awarded the Norman Maurer. So I must not have been like all of your classmates who did not care or work hard enough. When I graduated I thought, like you, that my success was exclusively tied to how hard I tried and that there were no outside factors. Instead I learned that reality is not exclusively up to me. There are things within my control and things that are not. Since graduation I have not only been focusing on my work, but, on the disadvantages I mentioned before that made things more challenging than they otherwise would have been.
So I congratulate you on your success and suggest that before you offer the idea that the reason for a persons dissatisfaction hinges on their work ethic you might want to give them the benefit of the doubt especially if you are not aware of their personal circumstances.
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You mis-took what I wrote as something directed at you- it wasn't- it was simply an observance from my experience during my time there (all that one can offer really without knowing all the circumstances). I should have been more clear, as that's all it was. So, my bad on not being more transparent in my writing (always hard to spell out tone in this type of forum); I'm glad for you and your efforts (though I have no idea what or the Norman Maurer is), and bummed that for whatever reason, the school didn't work out for you.
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Then I hope you will forgive me for misinterpreting your comment.
Whatever level of skill or work ethic I have I owe to the school and for that I'm grateful. I just remember being led to believe that the school would help us get on the path and then finding out that wasn't so. That coupled with what was going on with me made it impossible. I apologize for bending your ear, I just had no idea of the hardships I would go through after graduation. If I had the chance to go back and do it all again I wouldn't. When I remember how bad it was... man, those were some really bad times.
Anyway, sorry for jumping down your throat.
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No worries- as much my fault as yours. Again, sorry to hear you went through hard times. I consider myself very lucky; the school turned my incredibly crappy life around and helped lay the foundation for where I am today- basically the polar opposite of your experience it sounds like. Maybe I was the exception to the rule; I know too many people that had negative experiences there.
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Well, like I said there was a lot going on. I wasn't equipped for all that happened. 
I do think that to have a school where only 1 person out of a class of thirty or more winds up in the industry or as any kind of professional is "wildly impractical".
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