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MatiMS In reply to FinexiaPL [2011-12-23 11:48:17 +0000 UTC]

Dzięki, dzięki

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Alluris In reply to ElvenRaptor [2011-07-03 08:43:08 +0000 UTC]

Maybe becuase you're misled as to its meaning, and it's actually worth preserving.

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lanternjoe In reply to Alluris [2013-10-21 18:13:34 +0000 UTC]

The new Constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution—African slavery as it exists amongst us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the Constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The Constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the Constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slaver —subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
—Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America

But yes, keep going on about how it's heritage, not hate.

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Alluris In reply to lanternjoe [2013-10-30 17:43:23 +0000 UTC]

We were originally going to hang witches, but Massachusetts had done that to death by the time our plans got rolling, so we had to improvise.

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lanternjoe In reply to Alluris [2013-10-31 04:36:57 +0000 UTC]

Gimme a response that isn't a non-sequitur.

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Alluris In reply to lanternjoe [2013-11-02 06:04:49 +0000 UTC]

As if I owe you a response at all.

How about this: you get over the sins of our past, and we just might get over yours.

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lanternjoe In reply to Alluris [2013-11-02 16:27:47 +0000 UTC]

I'd "get over" the sins of your past if they weren't being celebrated.

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Alluris In reply to lanternjoe [2013-11-07 21:51:59 +0000 UTC]

Yep, that's me. Celebrating slavery and all manner of humanity's worst offerings!

Pull up a chair, join us!

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lanternjoe In reply to Alluris [2013-11-08 03:30:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm not talking about you in particular.

Please tell me what the Confederate flag represents other than keeping black people in chains.

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Alluris In reply to lanternjoe [2013-11-08 23:40:22 +0000 UTC]

Please tell me what any flag represents other than atrocity.

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lanternjoe In reply to Alluris [2013-11-09 01:01:22 +0000 UTC]

The Confederate flag stands for nothing else.

But please, I wish to know what you think it represents, and why you said ElvenRaptor was misled about its meaning. I've said what I think, now I want to know what you think.

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Alluris In reply to lanternjoe [2013-11-09 03:26:17 +0000 UTC]

It stands for anti-Martian and your mom's number in my book.

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lanternjoe In reply to Alluris [2013-11-09 04:02:27 +0000 UTC]

Seriously, what do you think it stands for?

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Alluris In reply to lanternjoe [2013-11-13 02:59:30 +0000 UTC]

What does it matter? You can't fill a cup that's already full. Telling you what my forefather's flag stands for would serve no purpose than to humor your wasting of my time.

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ElvenRaptor In reply to Alluris [2023-09-25 22:38:00 +0000 UTC]

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MatiMS In reply to ElvenRaptor [2011-04-29 11:26:20 +0000 UTC]

Sorry if it hurts You, i didn't make it in order to hurt anybody.

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