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Published: 2016-07-21 10:08:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 1328; Favourites: 9; Downloads: 3
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At left, flags of European countries that should be delivered into the hands of the countries whose flags are shown at right.Related content
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112 paΓses dicen lo contrario.
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Hey there (half) Belgian here.Altrough my opinion doesn't represent the opinion of the huge majority of Belgians but I'll write it down anyways.
I'd personally hate it if we were split up by these 3.I mean sure you could say Belgium is an artificial country but I'm damn tired of having my country being overshadowed by these 3.If Belgium was divided in any ways it wouldn't solve anything and it would just make Belgium even more overshadowed.Altrough it will remain a dream probably forever but I'd like to see Belgian troops putting up their flag in Paris and Amsterdam just to show them we're not their little bitch like they think we are (even though we really are I'm just saying I hate this situation).
And anyways even though I don't even live in Belgium but as far as I know the flemish parts wouldn't accept joining the dutch.And no flemish is not dutch it's a dialect of dutch, it's something like Bavaria in Germany.Sure even I admit that both are artificial but if the flemish wouldn't like joining the dutch why should we force them?If they were forced into doing so you'd only harm the flemish people with that (the reason I'm not saying the same about vallonians and germans is because as ik vallonians are fine with joining france and I dunno about the germans)
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Thanks for expressing your opinion about Belgian case.
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You forgot theΒ German-speaking Community of Belgium who should go to Germany.
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Yep, I've updated the image.
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French is an official language in Luxembourg, thus a part of Luxembourg should go to France
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You forgot Macedonia, where 1/3 of population is Albanian and 2/3 "Macedonian"
(Macedonians are almost the same as Bulgarians).
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I don't agree with this. It would not solve problems.
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North of Cyprus is inhabited by Turks and they have their own republic:Β Northern Cyprus
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Northern Cyprus was 75-80% Greek before 1974 when Turkey invaded and removed all the Greek Cypriots and settled loads of Turks there, who now almost outnumber Cypriot Turks. North Cyprus should be united with the rest of Cyprus, and the refugees should be allowed to go home.
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I think the split of the island or an unification as binational independent country are the best solutions. Not Turks dominated by Greeks.
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Why? You do realise Greeks are 80% of the Cypriot population (discluding immigrants). Why should Greek Cypriots have to bend over backwards to the Turks when they are only 20% of the population?
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20% of a population has rights too.
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Yes but Turkish Cypriots, before they ethnically cleansed North Cyprus, were scattered in enclaves around Cyprus, what are you gonna do, give all those enclaves to Turkey or you will give the lands that Turkey ethnically cleansed to Turkey (North Cyprus) ? That would simply legitimize the ethnic cleansing and stop those people from returning to their homes. 200 000 people were ethnically cleansed by Turkey in North Cyprus. That number may not seem very high, but the population of Cyprus at the time was 630 000, so almost a third of Cyprus' population was displaced. The population of Citizens of North Cyprus is 178 000 according to the last census. That means, there were more Greek refugees from Northern Cyprus in 1974 than there are Northern Cypriot citizens in the modern day (and this is not including population growth among the decendants of refugees)! I don't know why they should have more rights to the land than the native inhabitants who outnumber them as a matter of fact.
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A coup d'etat was promoted from Athens in order to an illegal "enosis", Turkey invaded to protect Turkish population. My opinion is clear, you can think what you want.
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Ah, so just because the Greek government fucks up, we deserved to be Genocided huh? I guess you won't call it genocide, its not genocide when a NATO member does it huh, NATO is above the law!Β
Please unwatch my page. I respect people who have other opinions but when they say its ok to commit genocide against my own people, I don't feel safe that a person who thinks like that about my own people to be looking at my page and my work. So please unwatch me just like I have unwatched you.
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Genocide? I haven't written about any genocide, I don't approve any genocide. I don't know what you're talking about. Past is past, what I think about that is irrelevant. Cyprus' present is what is. I don't want one injustice be solved with another unjustice.
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"Genocide? I haven't written about any genocide, I don't approve any genocide"
Yes. Removing people from their homes and raping and killing them if they refuse simply because they are from a different ethnicity is Genocide. You tried to justify it by saying that the actions of the Greek xounta makes the war crimes commited by Turkey ok, because killion thousands and ethnically cleansing hundreds of thousands doesn't sound like protecting people.
"Past is past,"
Past is past for some. It is not past for me when I have members of my family who lost everything because of this invasion and are living with the effects today. Simply forgetting about the past doesn't solve the future. Β
"I don't want one injustice be solved with another unjustice."
Exactly. However you are ok it seems with the injustice commited by the Greek xounta to be "solved" by a much worse injustice by the Turkish army.
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I've not justified any genocide, I wanted to say Greek people are not absolutely innocent, too. "Enosis" was against rights of Turkish people and Turkish invasion was produced in order to avoid that. Then, there was monstruous facts, it's true, I've not justified those atrocities. Maybe island should be divided, friendly and respecting human rights, when independence was claimed. I don't know. I'm sorry because of members of your family but, sincerely, I don't think solution nowadays be expulsions of Turks and "enosis". You can hate me, I don't care, I don't hate Greeks, Turks or Cypriots. I love Greece, Greeks and Greek culture but also think everybody has rights, Turks too.
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Of course Greeks did bad things, I never denied it and I never advocated to expel Turks. Enosis doesn't mean expelling Turks. Enosis is a democratic right. We live in a world where presidents can be elected on 30% of the vote but when Enosis is wanted by 80% of the population, its not allowed. Enosis doesn't mean expelling Turkish Cypriots, it means making them citizens of Greece with the same rights as Greeks just like the Turks in West Thrace, if they don't like it, its a shame but its how democracy works. When enosis is wanted by 80% of the population, why should the other 20% get their way at the expense of the 80%. Its very un-democratic and unfair. And no, I don't hate you, I simply disagree with you, there is a difference. Sorry for saying that you support Genocide. At the time I said that, it seemed like that was what you thought, but now you are clearer and it seems I was wrong so I'm sorry about that. Lets just put this behind us
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