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megami195 In reply to Andarion [2008-05-29 06:22:26 +0000 UTC]

XD wow. this is the longest comment anyone's ever left for anything.

Heh. what you say about Lulu/Zero towards Kallen is so true and it's even MORE so in season two. He's made me think "LOL Lulu you're such a bastard whore" like 4 times already in R2 and it's only been 8 eps. The way he is, I'm sure he totally wants to do her just cause he can. tho I think he'd do it in a way, that he wouldn't have to ask her for it, but wait until she gets so infatuated with him she can't hold her self back and throws her self at him or something.

Someone wrote a nice smuty fic along thoese lines
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Andarion In reply to megami195 [2008-05-29 20:31:55 +0000 UTC]

Really... but this comment is rather short in comparison with what I sometimes write (I torment some authors with comments three times this long XD I'm a BAD person)

Mhm lemme guess, one of those times was when he treated Rolo to "I'm your brother and I'll always protect you" stuff, just after he rescued his men from Britannian hands, right ?? Truuueee, I almost felt sorry for Rolo.
The first question is, in Which of his girls he is the most interested in C.C. or Karren (there is also that noble-girl but... she doesn't count ^^). With C.C. it would be a rather equal-rights relationship while Karren would be probably some kind of slave-girl (just imagine her in tights leather corset with her eyes blindfolded, she is lost, scared a bit, while Lulu walks around with a whip... whoops, sorry I let my kinky imagination to go to far XD
Anyway though I believe in what I wrote in the previous comment I don't think that Lulu is much of a bad guy. He has a lot of human emotions in himself and care about people around him, especially Nanally. If anyone would be called evil it would be Suzaku, unlike Lulu he is... very concnentrated on his aim and won't stop at nothing to achieve it, whether it will be betraying friendship or hurting Nanally.
Another kinky thought. I agree that Lulu won't make the first move, maybe he'd play with Karren, with her emotions so she would come to conclusion that she wants to do him but when I think about it Karren will be the dominating side. After all Lulu is (as it was stated on wikipedia) Underwhelming when it comes to physical activities, while Karren is very strong and agile, which means that she'll probably do most of the "job" if they ever land in bed.

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megami195 In reply to Andarion [2008-05-30 04:08:36 +0000 UTC]

I think CC and Lulu are perfect for each other X3. Lulu would be his typical smug self and CC would always call him on his BS. CC is a smart strong woman and I think he likes that in a woman and I think the fact she such a smart alec pain in the ass totaly gets him off.

Kallen he'd use as a sex toy. He reconizes he strength and her loyaty is uesful to him but she has no mind of her own and can't think for herself. I don't think he repects her as an equal the way he does CC. He likes messing with her and seeing how she reacts, since she SO dramtic.

I think Kallen's personaly is too weak for her to Dominat Lulu. It's the same reason I don't like Suzaku Seme over Lulu parings as well. Phicaly ya, they could take him, but metaly there personalites are too submisive. To be a dominate to have a strong dominate personality. Physical strengh doesn't matter. Lulu would minipulate her emotions and mind, make her think she's in control, but he'd be really be the one in control. Getting the job done in bed has nothing to do with phiscal stregth or stiamina you know ;3 If you know a woman's body well enough there's all sorts of ways you can get them at your mercy, and I take Lulu to be a fast learner. I have this kinky thought of Millay, The Student Body Prez being a good Sempai and teaching Lulu a thing or two every man should know but sure don't teach in school ;D She could dominate Lulu

Out of all the other people, CC is the only one I think could properly pull off turly compleatly doninating Lulu. She has the personality for it, she can so mess with his head, and you can SO picture her with a whip can't you. xD but Lulu isn't one who'd give up control esily. He'd be one of thoes agressive bottoms and make CC fight him for it. She'd win 'cause everyone knows Lulu is a weakling xD CC could so take him.

ya, the godess doesn't count. I don't like Jail Bait Parings... what is she? 12?

I don't think Lulu is a bad person. He's just become more obvious that he's useing people. You know he's messing with Kallen and Lolo. Tho I think Lolo will win him over and they will end up being close in the end. smuty thoughts of Lulu x Lolo action poping into head xD.

Lulu cunning and practical and doesn't look at the world through rose colored glasses. He knows the harsh reality of the world and people don't like harsh reality, but he's like. Look people, diplomicy has failed. I'm totaly on his side.

Ya, I never liked Suzaku. Even in the first season. First he was a follower with his own High and Mighty ideas about how things should be, and now he's a hipocrit. Lulu would do lot's of things to get what he wants, but he'd never sell out his best firend. Lulu could have used his geass to get Suzaku to join him but he never did becuse he valued his firendship. At the first test of their firendship Suzaku turned on Lulu without a second thought and sold him out to gain power. I don't think he's really trying to gain peace for the good of Japan anymore. I think he's just trying to stick it to Lulu and be all like my way was right and your way was wrong sort of thing. D:<

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Andarion In reply to megami195 [2008-06-01 01:49:06 +0000 UTC]

Although Lulu and CC tried to bite off each others heads not just once they really like each other. I may be wrong but Lulu truly care about her and if anyone would dare to capture her... well Lulu would probably invent some Really nasty ways of punishing that person. CC is not only strong and intelligent but she is also very beautiful and have great taste when it comes to cloths. I contracted a jaw-drop when I saw her in those French-style clothes in the episode where Mao first appeared, she looks great in... well everything ^^

True, Lulu shows a lot of respect for CC, especially now, while Kallen is being treated more like a subordinate, someone who is Below Lulu. In the... 7th episode I guess he was quite close to raping her (Yes I agree it was just a kiss, but the situation itself, the way how he almost treated Kallen as a toy or tool with which he could feel better, it made me think that he'd end up raping her... though I wouldn't be surprised if Kallen would willingly give him her body... it all depends I guess

Oh Please don't torture me with pairings (yet XD) I merely finished watching the series and didn't really "jumped into fandom" yet so I don't have my mind made up as far as pairings are concerned (except for LuluXCC). Well it is true, Lulu is way to intelligent and strong-willed for Kallen to cope with. Well the One little problem is that Lulu probably Wouldn't manipulate Kallen, oh of course he manipulates and even kill people but it's all for his goal, for crushing Britannia and his father (to be frank I wouldn't be surprised if Lulu would wind up as the next Emperor of Britannia), he never uses his abilities to manipulate and use his friends for his personal purposes (he Geass-ed Shirley to erase her suffering for example).
Oh yes, have fun reminding a viring that he is still a virgin :-P Sorry I have no experience in this stuff so I have no idea what "those all sorts of ways are" :-P
Oh Yes Milley would DEFINITELY enjoy teaching Lulu a thing or two more than once I started to think that she is bisexual, she shares her "interest" and energy for both boys and girls, I really like her, they'll make an awesome marriage with Lloyd XD

Yeeaahhh... I imagined CC with a whip, with that bored, indifferent expression on her face, standing over Lulu who is tied up nice and tight to the bed... I think that if CC would smile Lulu would get a one heck of a heart attack XD She would definitely avenge all the misstreatment she received from him XD Oh and Yeah CC wouldn't have problem with forcing Lulu into submission both psychologically and physically (she'd shown a time or two that she is rather good in martial arts) Heh, fight over the dominance between Lulu and CC... now that would be something to watch, fight against Britannia doesn't even compare XD

Yeah something around that, though she seems Really enthusiastic about being Lulu's wife, she may grow into a rather interesting competition for Kallen and CC but for now Lulu just tries to neither offend her nor encourage her. Btw. while we're at this part, check out this guy's gallery, he's got some cool Code Geass comics
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STOP! Not even a word about LuluXLolo XD That would be too much for my poor innocent mind. Yeah I too have a feeling that Rolo will win Lulu over he seems like such a poor lost kid. Nope Zero is not a bad guy, Definitely, to be honest the more of R2 I'm watching the more I loose the grasp of "Who's the bad guy here" Even that damn Charles De Britannia doesn't seem so Evil anymore. As far as Lulu is concerned I like it that he is Still a fairly normal person with emotions, problems, fears and hopes, not some Insane mastermind who wishes to control the world and doesn't care about anything else, I believe Light in Death Note was like this (insane mastermind) though I never read/watched DN so I don't know it for sure.

Yeeeesss I totally love Code Geass for this, it's an extremely nice change from the shonens where characters just kept going forward yelling moralistic shit, Code Geass is dirty and nasty, Lulu doesn't stop from using nasty methods and making nasty decisions, that's what I love about this series.

Well it's pretty hard to talk about Suzaku cause he is a fairly complicated character (not that Lulu is a simple one XD) though I think that as the series progressed he started to get more and more "Evil" while Lulu was getting "Good-er". Now when I look at it Lulu seems to be a much more postivive character than Suzaku, though the newest chapters turned the tables once again, I wonder... whether Suzaku and Lulu will end up fighting and trying to kill each other in the end or maybe they'll cooperate. We still don't know even 1/100 of what we'd like to know about CC and VV not to mention those "the Gods" Charles mentioned. Maybe Charles will be similar to Lord Genome from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann where Genome wasn't a villain but was a saviour of humans in fact.

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megami195 In reply to Andarion [2008-06-01 05:00:51 +0000 UTC]

Well when I say, Lulu will manipulate Kallen, I mean like he would use sweet fancy words and she would think he cares about her more than he does. Sure he likes Kallen and everything, but not as much as she would want him to. I really think his heart belongs to CC and she is the woman he cares most about after his sister. I think he's trying to push Kallen to think for her self and not idolize him as Zero so much. I think that's why he tried to force the kiss on her, trying to make her see that he's human. I don't think he would ever force himself on her... I mean...　he knows she could totally kick his ass XD

Lulu seems evil because he understands and accepts the concept of "necessary evil" but he's clear in his goal and motives and it's apperent he's working towards settling things with Britania. Now he realizes that it's not just his sister, that she's not the only one who needs him, he's fighting for but everyone who believes in him. Suzaku is hard to read. You don't know if his intentions are entirely pure anymore. Is he really working for the good of the people or does he just wanna stick it to Lulu?

I think if Lulu could explane what happened with Euphy...the whole thing about how much he cared about Euphy and how the whole massicare thing was an accident they MIGHT be able to make up. but I don't know. Sunrise isn't giving anything away....

I still don't like the Britainan Emperor.

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Andarion In reply to megami195 [2008-06-01 21:54:18 +0000 UTC]

Mhm true he did the same with Rolo, using sweet and nice words while in fact he'd be happy to see Rolo in the deepest pits of hell. I don't quite agree , Lulu was very close to depression, to psychological collapse then and I don't think that there was anything "deeper" behind his actions, he was in a very foul mood and was desperate to find someone who would comfort him, it was a desperation rather than conscious and planned action. Hmm... though it would be kinda sweet to see Lulu crying in either CC or Karren's embrace ^^ True Lulu knows that Karren could break his neck in like... 27 ways with her toe but as you said yourself he'd defeat her psychologically, I'm sure that Lulu would come with some clever monologue with which he could make Karren give herself to him.

Lulu is a bit similar to one character from a book I read loong ago. Guy's name is Dijikstra and he is a leader of Intelligence in one country, he uses different nasty methods like tortures, threatening, bribing and so on and so forth to protect and help his country but as it was stated by one king "You are a son of a bitch but a good son of a bitch" Dijikstra never hurt anyone because he wanted, never stole any money or did anything for himself. It's kinda similar with Lulu he IS bad but only because he have to, first for Nanally and now for all the Japanese people. I think that Suzaku is good, just look how he wanted to die all this time, putting himself in harm's way, even Zero pointed it out... or maybe it was Mao, nevertheless Suzaku truly regret what he have done and he wants to atone for his sins, that's why I think that he is good but uses nasty methods (just like Lulu ^^)

I'm not sure about this "making up" part even if they would explain the Euphy's case there's still the matter of being on the opposite sides. They are both on opposite sides of the same... idea ?? Until not long ago they were on colliding course but since Zero took Black Knights from Japan and left it for Suzaku to deal with they no longer stand on each other's way... at least for now, cause I'm sure that they will clash sooner or later as Suzaku will protect Britannia from Lulu's attempts to destroy it.

Neither do I but he seems less daemonic now.

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Imperator-Lawrence In reply to Andarion [2009-02-12 03:48:49 +0000 UTC]

Were things to have worked out without Kallen as an enemy, Lelouch quite possibly would have replaced Suzaku with her as his knight. C.C. could have the throne. And neither would mind.
Still, several of Lelouch's actions point to him not being an unfeeling bastard.

On the previous note, considering how nasty Suzaku got to be towards Lelouch by the end of R2... At that point, I frankly see him at least subconsciously wanting to kill Lelouch, if not his whole reason for doing this.

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megami195 In reply to Lawrence-chan [2008-04-28 02:19:13 +0000 UTC]

I could totally see him demanding something like this from Karen...who would go ahead and obey

some one wrote a nice fic along thoes lines X3
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