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MeganeRid In reply to pablocascon [2016-12-26 04:46:10 +0000 UTC]

not really. I'm trying to make a game res version though, in my spare time.

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MeganeRid In reply to cullyferg2010 [2016-10-30 17:01:22 +0000 UTC]

Indonesia is pretty big country actually, New Guinea and Borneo is 2nd and 3rd biggest island. Sumatra is bigger than Japan's main island and Java not that small either.

The problem is mobilizing the tanks between islands I suppose, we'll need more and better transport ships than current ones haha.

As for their use, I'm not sure either. In Java they'll probably be used in urban warfare I guess. I'm of the opinion that we should boost up our maritime power more instead of the land based ones, but I guess you can't just satisfy one side, the other ones need their toys too haha

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cullyferg2010 In reply to MeganeRid [2016-10-31 01:51:08 +0000 UTC]

My question is:  Who would you use it against?  I would believe you would need something smaller, something along the lines of an Infantry Fighting Vehicle, preferably a wheeled variety.  

I don't know what industrial capabilities Indonesia has, but something made in-house to meet the military's needs would be what's needed.  Maybe talk with Singapore Industries for suggestions. 

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MeganeRid In reply to qzbk [2012-11-21 08:30:23 +0000 UTC]

cheers

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MeganeRid In reply to MelvWolfe [2012-11-21 08:30:38 +0000 UTC]

cool! I hope the deal goes through

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Siregar3D In reply to Panzerfire [2011-11-25 13:51:41 +0000 UTC]

Its a part of the planning budget to purchase these MBT.
Some local news source in english if you would like to read.
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Panzerfire In reply to Siregar3D [2011-11-27 23:09:08 +0000 UTC]

Ahhh thanks a lot for the share.

Hmmm so the idea is to obtain second hand equipment with a life expectancy of at least 20 years. Sounds reasonable. However I don't know if Leopards 2A6 will be available for sale from retiring stock of the German Army, I'd think it'd be easier to get brand new ones. However there may still be some older 2A4s ready to be sold, Germany has been getting rid of those for quite a while in exchange of 2A6s. The 2A5s may also be made available for sale soon but I wouldn't put my bets on it.

The German Army is more likely to keep the 2A6s for itself hoping to continiously upgrade them for a long while. For example, Many of the 2A6s will be upgraded to the 2A7 standars in the coming years. Any remaining 2A6 will probably be made available for sale when a new Leopard variant is manufactured. Work on the design of a "Leopard 3" should begin within the next 5-10 years

Now, I don't know if other countries such as the Netherlands, Greece, Spain (All 2A6s variants user) have plans to sell their tanks but I can tell you that at least from Germany, any exports made from 2A6 variants or upgraded versions will come as a sale of brand new equipment instead of second hand equipment. At least that has been the rule so far.

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MeganeRid In reply to Panzerfire [2011-11-21 05:07:15 +0000 UTC]

I can only find Indonesian sources so yeah, probably not 100% confirmed, it's just one reason to do the 3d model haha

Anyway if they do come I'll be glad, the army) really needs to renew its aging assets, we still have some WW2 era stuff lol

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Panzerfire In reply to MeganeRid [2011-11-27 23:44:49 +0000 UTC]

The source thingie has been taken care by Siregar so no problem.

And WW2 era stuff? Yeah that would strike me as an indication of a very needed upgrade

So far I read from Siregar's sources, it seems the plan is get about a 100 units. Sounds like a good number. Not too many to make the neighbours uneasy, and not too few either.

But yeah, Indonesia is not a nation very suitable for armored warfare. Large portions of territory separated by Sea and Lakes, lots of forests and maybe also mountains? I'm not very good at Indonesian Geography.

Anyway my point is, that there isn't a need for large amounts of tanks because the terrain in Indonesia is not quite the best ones for large armor warfare. The best thing Indonesia could invest to build up its defences is on a good naval force and air force.

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MeganeRid In reply to Panzerfire [2011-11-28 15:12:53 +0000 UTC]

A Number of large islands separated by sea, so yeah considering the amount of sea in our country, more ships would be better, but I do think they're trying to improve all three forces, so tanks for the army I guess

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Panzerfire In reply to MeganeRid [2011-12-02 15:40:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. Well a 100 should be a nice round number. Not too few but also not many enough to make any neighbours uneasy.

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Tribersman-FR In reply to Panzerfire [2011-11-20 20:24:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, if they don't get it from Germany I'm sure my country (France) would gladly sell them some "Leclerc" and "Rafale".
...as our president tried to sell Rafale to Kadhafi before. Yes, he is that bad.

Anyway that's a good 3D model, I'm learning to use Solidwork and I don't know how many hour each day it would take me to reach this level of details).

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Panzerfire In reply to Tribersman-FR [2011-11-20 22:05:22 +0000 UTC]

lol, that's good point. But I think Indonesia would have an easier time trying to buy weapons from the Russians. If the West has little regard to who they sell weapons, boy Imagine the Ruskies.

Or perhaps China, 'though I've heard they're more worried about supplying their own demands that those of other countries.


So, you new at 3-D modelling? Well, with practice you should be able to recreate any kind of vehicle or equipment or object you want to create. The key is practicing as much as you can. I once worked about doing 3-D models but it was a short face. I never got very good at it. But anyone with enough practice can pull anything they want.

I wish you good luck.

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MeganeRid In reply to Teeroy766 [2011-11-15 17:27:57 +0000 UTC]

hmm I guess they do, but very few countries D:

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Teeroy766 In reply to MeganeRid [2011-11-15 17:30:05 +0000 UTC]

Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

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MeganeRid In reply to Starkesven [2011-11-15 06:24:33 +0000 UTC]

cheers! probably placed in borneo island, which is quite large and borders with Malaysia, that'd be my guess :d

Anyway, even Singapore has them MBTs haha

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MeganeRid In reply to fighterace2688 [2011-11-14 14:46:09 +0000 UTC]

just lurks once in a while but not that much, I didn't do much military models after all @_@

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MeganeRid In reply to gyro5 [2011-11-14 00:11:31 +0000 UTC]

well Singapore already has Leopard 2 haha, I'm talking about Indonesia (my home country)

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gyro5 In reply to MeganeRid [2011-11-14 00:12:11 +0000 UTC]

Wait ... INDONESIA!

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