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Published: 2019-07-11 23:29:26 +0000 UTC; Views: 21669; Favourites: 242; Downloads: 90
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Description Just a bit of cap I made out of frustration.
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NoArtistJustHere [2022-02-25 18:40:24 +0000 UTC]

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Probochka [2020-10-05 16:56:06 +0000 UTC]

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Nodem123 [2020-03-07 14:21:34 +0000 UTC]

Love this. Can agree that many of the elements used in those stories are very cliche.

I’m really questioning myself at this point, in terms of my gender, and I’m really scared.

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Thinking-Silence In reply to Nodem123 [2020-10-11 21:42:02 +0000 UTC]

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Evenas In reply to Thinking-Silence [2020-11-09 11:58:18 +0000 UTC]

I can’t tell if this comment is trying to be poetic and supportive or bigoted and stupid.

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jacksondawg25 [2019-07-14 20:47:11 +0000 UTC]

Too bad there's no existing medical procedures that actually do this.Β 

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Lillyazu In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-07-27 07:15:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh, but there is.

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Lillyazu [2019-07-27 17:40:43 +0000 UTC]

Hormone replacements and removing parts of your genitals doesn't actually make your gender different.Β 

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-07-29 03:50:39 +0000 UTC]

You're right. Gender is internal, so nothing is ever going to change that. Your sex, however, you can change via surgery and hormones.

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-07-31 00:13:46 +0000 UTC]

A biological male can, through no mean available as of yet, get a working vagina or the organs requires to get pregnant. Just as a woman cannot make sperm.

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DraygaQueen In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-09-17 20:11:18 +0000 UTC]

XY Women have given birth to babies...
And technically, a pregnancy doesnt require a uterus...

But yeah, facts dont matter if they dont support your drama

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-07-31 00:17:09 +0000 UTC]

So sterile men and women are not men and women?

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 16:59:14 +0000 UTC]

Circumstances can make people sterile/infertile but they were still born with those biological capabilities.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 18:10:28 +0000 UTC]

There are hereditary causes that make people infertile too. These people therefore are not men/women in your eyes?

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 21:14:42 +0000 UTC]

They are defects and conditions that actively go against what the body's original functionality would have been. If not for the defects, they would have functioning genitals. Therefore, they are the biological sex as determined by their chromosomes. There will always be minor anomalies somewhere but they are the exception, not the rule

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 21:51:00 +0000 UTC]

And being born the wrong gender is a defect as well.

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:01:13 +0000 UTC]

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:02:08 +0000 UTC]

time.com/5596845/world-health-…

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:07:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeah they also classify gaming as a mental disorder so I don't really care. Play the hand you're dealt in life. Honestly what happened to encouraging people to be happy with who they are?

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:09:29 +0000 UTC]

If we're encouraging people to be happy with who they are, then we should be encouraging transsexuals to crossdress, go on hormones, and get surgery. Because that's who they are.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:15:53 +0000 UTC]

Just because you feel like you're a girl doesn't make you a girl. To spit in the face of science is to spit in the face of progress.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:24:14 +0000 UTC]

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…

Science says you're your desired gender.

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:27:11 +0000 UTC]

M8, just because a guy thinks/acts in a feminine way, that doesn't make him a girl. Physically, he is still male and no amount of mutilation of his genitals will change that.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:28:34 +0000 UTC]

Sure it does. If it looks like ice cream, tastes like ice cream, feels like ice cream, and behaves like ice cream, it's ice cream.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:32:22 +0000 UTC]

If it a mixture of frozen cream, sugar, and sometimes eggs, then yes of course it is. But if it lacks cream or sugar, or if it isn't frozen, or if it has some other ingredient that ruins the food's actual foundation, then it is no longer ice cream. It needs to meet a set of criteria.Β 

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:33:36 +0000 UTC]

The basic composition is the same. And if you replace the sugar with corn syrup, it's still ice cream.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:35:50 +0000 UTC]

M8, you know you're reaching for logic that isn't there. A person's perception has no bearing on what is and isn't.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:40:49 +0000 UTC]

Sure it does. Gender is a social construct, and sex is something as simple as what body you're in. Men have penises, women have vaginas and, in most cases, breasts. Surgery and hormones can change those, making the body match the brain.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:45:08 +0000 UTC]

You can make the argument that gender is a social construct, fine. But sex is not malleable. So I can just as easily counter with: Alright I don't date "girls" I date "biological females." Or I could say: These aren't the men's and women's rooms, they are the male and female rooms. If I get robbed and the police ask me for a description and I say it was a man, they aren't going to look for suspects that identify as men, they are going to look for the people that are actually male.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:46:56 +0000 UTC]

An out m2f transgender will not look like a man. If you are robbed by a post-op m2f transgender, you will likely tell the police you were robbed by a woman, and they will search for one.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:49:46 +0000 UTC]

If they are tall, have broad shoulders, no breasts, lack feminine facial features, and/or generally sound like a man, then I'm gonna say it was a man.Β 

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 22:52:56 +0000 UTC]

statehornet.com/wp-content/upl…

So if she beats you up, you'll report to the police you were beaten by a man?Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 22:58:26 +0000 UTC]

Like I said, I'd judge based on appearance. I'm sure you've probably just a transgender's face pic (conveniently leaving out the rest of the body) but going by that picture alone anyone would say that's a woman. Now like I said, I'm sure you sent me that as some kind of trick, like it's a feminine looking guy. My point with this tangent is that people only care about what they can actually see in the people around them, and not waht the person may or may not identify as. If a man that looks and sounds like a woman robbed somebody, then obviously they would tell the police it's a woman because that's what they saw.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 23:10:56 +0000 UTC]

That person is a post-op transgender. Because these are the people I'm concerned with - people who have gone all the way with hormones, surgeries, and voice lessons.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 23:14:33 +0000 UTC]

Aight cool, at first glance that person looks to have a very girly face. That's neat and all, but let's say that I, a straight male, start dating someone like that. One I find out they have a fucking penis/lack a fucking vagina, that relationship is done. Because I care about the actual physical body of the person MUCH more than the gender identity.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 23:21:38 +0000 UTC]

That's your right. Transgender people often have trouble finding relations for that exact reason, even when post-op. And I will not judge a person for calling it off for that reason.

The people I do judge are the ones who believe a post-op woman has no rights to use the bathroom and should be locked in a mental institution.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 23:25:00 +0000 UTC]

I don't believe they should be locked up. I do however, believe that nobody with a penis should be going into a women washroom and vice versa.

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 23:25:24 +0000 UTC]

A post-op doesn't have a penis.

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 23:29:12 +0000 UTC]

This is news to me. Also isn't this entire issue the reason gender neutral and transgender washrooms are being implemented?

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Meliran In reply to jacksondawg25 [2019-08-01 23:39:42 +0000 UTC]

In the rare places they are. But yeah, I only support a person using the bathroom of their chosen gender if they are out about it. In other words, they've seen a gender counselor, are certified as transgender, and are living full time as their chosen gender.Β 

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jacksondawg25 In reply to Meliran [2019-08-01 23:47:30 +0000 UTC]

Fair. I think we've lost track of the original point. What I meant when I said that procedures like this don't exist in real life is that procedures which change a person completely with no negative side effects and no similarities to former self dont exist. They are a product of fantasy. I would treat a hypothetical science-fiction or fantasy magic gender swap like in the stories found in tg captions very differently from what we have in real life.

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TGPuppet [2019-07-14 05:59:34 +0000 UTC]

Oof. I feel your frustration. It's especially transparent in this capΒ  Β 

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readingwiz5 [2019-07-13 12:32:55 +0000 UTC]

Reality sucks. No wonder isekai is popular nowadays.

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Matisguy [2019-07-12 17:30:10 +0000 UTC]

This girl needs an award.

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Dragonkingdom0 In reply to Matisguy [2019-07-14 03:57:12 +0000 UTC]

So True

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random-person-sayshi [2019-07-12 15:08:30 +0000 UTC]

lol. nice job. l loved her sass and awareness of,and subversion of the tropes.

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Rocomotives [2019-07-12 11:15:18 +0000 UTC]

A TG caption after such a long period of time.

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Avarus-Lux [2019-07-12 10:07:48 +0000 UTC]

"I reject your "reality" and substitute my own." - Adam Savage

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xxCantgetupwithaname [2019-07-12 08:25:58 +0000 UTC]

I wanna start HRT too >~<

Also are you okay? Why are you frustrated?

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Denojab [2019-07-12 07:24:33 +0000 UTC]

β€œReality can be whatever I want” -noobmaster69

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