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Description this is the technical term i am using that pertains to all and any anatomy drawings that have to do with Hans but PERHAPS are a good starting point for anyone dabbling in winged humanoid anatomies
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MoonlightOwlArts In reply to ??? [2023-02-12 08:57:20 +0000 UTC]

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Hannahdoodle100 [2016-04-30 19:35:29 +0000 UTC]

I've mentioned it before, but i really like the membrane you've put between the feathers and the back, it adds a unique and interesting feel as it almost bridges the gap between Bat-like mammalian wings and feathered bird/reptilian wings. Β 

So... here i am, over-thinking the subject of a third set of limbs (wings) once again, and i have a question to pose to you:
Where evolutionary (if your species are the result of evolution) does the third set of limbs come into play? and how does it affect other species?

you see, I personally have three possible branch off points for wing potential that doesn't affect all Tetrapods; Amphibians, Reptiles and Birds included (although how they even gained a third set is still unanswered). The furthest back for me is where the main Crown Mammals branch off as it allows them to lay eggs or even possibly carry young in a pouch (which is a kind of interesting idea but in practice probably wouldn't work well). the second possible branch off is Boreoeutheria, which lets me also create winged horses, cats & dogs but also means that Bats would need an overhaul. For me this is one of the best periods as mammals are hugely diversifying at this point due to the Dinosaurs just going extinct. Lastly, you could add the third limb as a Primate which means that the only species with three sets of limbs (or wings) can be humans or other closely related species.

I'm probably just overthinking the subject hugely but it's interesting to theorise the impact and to me helps me worldbuild a little... (Then again i'm thinking in the terms of if All humans had always had wings and how that one change influences how they interact with the world)

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Tytoquetra [2013-12-08 01:02:57 +0000 UTC]

This is a really well thought-out wing structure. It's very unique. Good job!

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mernolan In reply to Tytoquetra [2013-12-28 15:51:28 +0000 UTC]

thank you c:

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BirdGVee [2013-11-10 13:08:47 +0000 UTC]

Woah, you sure know good about bird-anatomy

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mernolan In reply to BirdGVee [2013-11-18 04:02:28 +0000 UTC]

hyep

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FarelleMoon [2013-10-27 01:06:02 +0000 UTC]

I really appreciate the color coding - I think it makes it easy to follow.

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mernolan In reply to FarelleMoon [2013-11-01 16:05:30 +0000 UTC]

thanks!

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nekonotaishou [2013-10-15 19:51:20 +0000 UTC]

Wow, he's got a double alula? Interesting!

I love how accurate and perfectly layered these wings are <3

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mernolan In reply to nekonotaishou [2013-10-15 20:21:44 +0000 UTC]

yeee something like that


I'm playing with the idea Β c:

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MojoLiazon [2013-10-13 12:11:59 +0000 UTC]

Nice work. My issue has always been with the sheer size of the pectorals, and the accompanying breastbone, that a humanoid would need to fly. Gotta make a magical excuse, or you end up drawing a distorted human, if you want to make a realistic flying human. Not too many people like realistic winged humanoids, lol! Nor realistic winged horses, either...

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mernolan In reply to MojoLiazon [2013-10-15 14:45:54 +0000 UTC]

i'm still conflicted about putting the pectorals over the shoulder as picture above BUT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY SHOULD WORK MAYBE??? I find breast plates are a good alternative to keels if you are looking to preserve the human figure as much as possible, but sometimes its fun to have a huge hulking creature m'right?

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MojoLiazon In reply to mernolan [2013-10-26 00:19:27 +0000 UTC]

Lol, yeah, breastplates as opposed to keels are good. But then I'd think you need insect-like wings, not feathers.Β 


The pectorals would indeed work whichever way, though, since the strength and fibre density of any muscle is not dependent on its size. Rather like the miniscule drumsticks fleas have, propelling them so far --- it's composition that matters, not size.


HOWEVER: as I always tell myself when drawing unrealistic animals, you can find a variation on every rule in nature.

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Sarablack10 [2013-10-12 22:46:25 +0000 UTC]

Definitely the most believable human-wings ever!

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mernolan In reply to Sarablack10 [2013-10-15 14:40:33 +0000 UTC]

thank youuu Β c:

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XandImus [2013-10-12 20:32:01 +0000 UTC]

that best insight ever!

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mernolan In reply to XandImus [2013-10-15 14:40:22 +0000 UTC]

thank!

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XandImus In reply to mernolan [2013-10-17 16:30:17 +0000 UTC]

wing it good!

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mernolan In reply to XandImus [2013-10-18 14:15:54 +0000 UTC]

HA Β 

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XandImus In reply to mernolan [2013-10-22 17:09:59 +0000 UTC]

hmmm!

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HoneyFHam [2013-10-12 20:07:26 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

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mernolan In reply to HoneyFHam [2013-10-15 14:37:54 +0000 UTC]

WELCOMES

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HoneyFHam In reply to mernolan [2013-10-15 14:38:36 +0000 UTC]

angels were always a huge pain for me since I could never draw them properly

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mernolan In reply to HoneyFHam [2013-10-15 14:50:02 +0000 UTC]

angels are celestial beings you can prolly cheat and give them magical abilities

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HoneyFHam In reply to mernolan [2013-10-15 15:01:14 +0000 UTC]

maybe so, but the anatomy has always felt wrong when I draw them. I'm horrible at drawing in general really, my skills are more with stories, but i always wanted to draw an angel once

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mernolan In reply to HoneyFHam [2013-10-15 15:04:42 +0000 UTC]

it just takes practice - things will come in time c:

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HoneyFHam In reply to mernolan [2013-10-15 15:08:57 +0000 UTC]

maybe so, but not everyone has the time or the skill to do it

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Bristlefurr [2013-10-12 19:00:33 +0000 UTC]

Really happy with this. I hate wings on humans because of all the anatomy no.
But the shoulder and elongated pectoral muscles really seem to look nice and believable.

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mernolan In reply to Bristlefurr [2013-10-15 14:40:00 +0000 UTC]

welp this dosen't exist in real life for a reason :'D

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LazyButPassionate [2013-10-12 16:07:15 +0000 UTC]

Wow! I'll definately be coming back to look at this, repeatedly!

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mernolan In reply to LazyButPassionate [2013-10-15 14:38:20 +0000 UTC]

looking forward to it!

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algorithmguy [2013-10-12 12:52:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much, this helped me out a lot with drawing birds!

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mernolan In reply to algorithmguy [2013-10-15 14:32:30 +0000 UTC]

glad i could help!

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Egaboot [2013-10-12 09:33:07 +0000 UTC]

Wow this is so eye catching. The anatomy is great and the size of the wings are just right.

One small thing though.

From the current position, it looks like the "shoulder" joints of the wings are in the same level with ones of the arms. This may cause limited range of downward flappingΒ motion.

May be moving the wings up, or the arms own a bit will help.

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Still, loves your drawings!

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mernolan In reply to Egaboot [2013-10-15 14:37:06 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah for sure - you'd have to move the arms around to make everything fit comfortably, I was focusing more on the muscle structure and just didn't incorporate that into these drawingsΒ 


I HAVE SUPER OUTDATED REFERENCE THAT DOSE MENTION MOVING STUFF AROUND THOUGHΒ mernolan.deviantart.com/art/Wi…


thank you for the comment anyways - always good to know that people are thinking these things through c:

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Sarracuda [2013-10-12 05:53:26 +0000 UTC]

Nice

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Devilchild93 [2013-10-12 05:38:17 +0000 UTC]

LOOK AT YOU BEING ON THE PAGE!!!!Β 

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UNlikeableMegastos [2013-10-12 03:21:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for sharing this research!

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mernolan In reply to UNlikeableMegastos [2013-10-15 14:30:47 +0000 UTC]

no problem! hope it helps!

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UNlikeableMegastos In reply to mernolan [2013-10-16 19:36:32 +0000 UTC]

Yes, yes it will

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Parism [2013-10-12 01:26:56 +0000 UTC]

cool!

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mernolan In reply to Parism [2013-10-15 14:31:48 +0000 UTC]

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MrMadhatter45 [2013-10-12 01:10:35 +0000 UTC]

This is perfect!

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mernolan In reply to MrMadhatter45 [2013-10-15 14:31:20 +0000 UTC]

you're perfect

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MrMadhatter45 In reply to mernolan [2013-10-15 19:43:47 +0000 UTC]

Awww thanks.

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DKillustrations [2013-10-11 23:51:53 +0000 UTC]

This is great! Thanks for sharing!

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mernolan In reply to DKillustrations [2013-10-15 14:28:46 +0000 UTC]

no probs!

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InnerBushman [2013-10-11 23:23:16 +0000 UTC]

Finally someone have done some research on how to attach a wing to a man. Bravo!
I so much hate when people mindlessly put those skinny little sticks on the back of their character. I wouldn't dare to hang a single atom on those wings, not to mention a whole person.
Your wings look anatomically correct and big and strong enough to lift a person. I like it ;]

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mernolan In reply to InnerBushman [2013-10-15 14:30:37 +0000 UTC]

yes i know how you feel - all it takes is a little bit of research!

go big or go home

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mactombs In reply to InnerBushman [2013-10-12 22:01:26 +0000 UTC]

Agreed! It also irritates me when there's no distinction between feathers -- primary, secondary, etc.


I was obsessed over this once, and it's great to see a decent approach to it. Don't know if it would fly, but it at least looks like it.

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