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Published: 2017-08-02 12:16:34 +0000 UTC; Views: 2094; Favourites: 104; Downloads: 29
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Description So... I watched NGE recently (the show), after countless people urged me to do so (yes, , I haven't forgotten that conversation we had once), it was who convinced me in the end, and... WHERE'S THIS BEEN ALL MY LIFE??

*sigh* Of course now I can only try and encapsulate how I feel about this by doing a lot of art, eh? So I might be doing more of these in the future. 

Title is in german because Anime likes to give german names to powerful things, so... I feel proud of my language rn xD
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Comments: 43

leonmyntti [2017-09-27 19:20:50 +0000 UTC]

Best anime by far. Question is, Asuka or Rei?

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MonoFlax In reply to leonmyntti [2017-10-01 21:51:37 +0000 UTC]

Which one I like better? They're both interesting.

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leonmyntti In reply to MonoFlax [2017-10-02 00:24:20 +0000 UTC]

No man, Rei is bae ;^)

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Quirky-Middle-Child [2017-08-04 14:34:24 +0000 UTC]

NGE? I've never heard about it. But this looks dope, I'll check it out sometime.

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MonoFlax In reply to Quirky-Middle-Child [2017-08-08 18:21:31 +0000 UTC]

Neon Genesis Evangelion! Its an absolutely iconic anime show about teenagers piloting giant things fighting other giant things from space, basically.
BUT there's much more to the show than light entertainment. It has some very deep philosophical themes to it and it's plot is quite complicated and difficult to wrap your head around without help. For the full mindfuck experience I recommend watching the show. There are also the "rebuild" movies which are newer and have better animation quality, but they simplify a lot and sometimes just go in completely different directions. The show on the other hand takes its time to establish realistic characters, but has a lot more downtime as a result.

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Quirky-Middle-Child In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-08 20:36:23 +0000 UTC]

I am really interested in this. Thanks for letting me know about it.

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MonoFlax In reply to Quirky-Middle-Child [2017-08-11 02:33:46 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh lemme know what you think about it then

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Quirky-Middle-Child In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-11 15:36:29 +0000 UTC]

sure

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AnimusNocturnus [2017-08-03 16:45:52 +0000 UTC]

I can haz Rei?

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MonoFlax In reply to AnimusNocturnus [2017-08-08 18:27:21 +0000 UTC]

 
She's such a cutie <3

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AnimusNocturnus In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-09 12:45:54 +0000 UTC]

OMG! REI! <3

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TimoGuenther [2017-08-03 05:28:51 +0000 UTC]

You did some very good work with the background of this one. I like how the buildings can be interpreted as coming out of the shadows, due to sunlight, or as being ruins after a confrontation between the EVA units and their opponents. Makes me wanna read the manga again. It has to be somewhere in my cellar...

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MonoFlax In reply to TimoGuenther [2017-08-08 18:23:42 +0000 UTC]

Ohh, I like that interpretation a lot. I was thinking that it should be Asuka on standby, waiting for the initiation of one of Misato's mindbending strategies  
You were one of the people who recommended Evangelion to me in the first place, so I am curious if you prefer the rebuild movies or the original show?

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TimoGuenther In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-14 05:35:53 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I think I chose the original show. It had a major influence during the time when I watched a lot of Anime and read a lot Manga. I think that is a bonus point the rebuild movies can never get
Yeah, I'm more attracted to the old show than the remake. But that does not mean the remake is garbage, of course.

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MonoFlax In reply to TimoGuenther [2017-11-28 23:24:24 +0000 UTC]

I actually prefer the show too, by a long shot. Not a big fan of the rebuilds personally. They generally made things look better and more modern, but they sacrificed a lot of the character interactions in favor of mecha battles, which kind of turns it from a dissection of the mecha genre to... just another show in the mecha genre And with that it also kind of loses its theme... not to mention how it derails the plot in the second rebuild... The rebuilds are still cool though! Just bad compared to the actual show which I really respect by now. 
Sorry it took me so long to reply xD

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TimoGuenther In reply to MonoFlax [2017-11-29 06:41:38 +0000 UTC]

No big deal. All of us have their busy times, no?

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MonoFlax In reply to TimoGuenther [2017-12-04 01:52:02 +0000 UTC]

Indeed Dx

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studio-toledo [2017-08-02 20:38:35 +0000 UTC]

It's a shame Latin was not used more often in EVA (given the Biblical refs and all).

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MonoFlax In reply to studio-toledo [2017-08-02 22:13:40 +0000 UTC]

Heh, apparently they thought German was a more powerful language B)

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studio-toledo In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-03 00:20:09 +0000 UTC]

I suppose, but I still think Latin sounded more appropriate given the context.

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webkilla [2017-08-02 17:49:25 +0000 UTC]

make sure to see the movies as well - there are three movies out, which basically redo the whole series, but much better

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MonoFlax In reply to webkilla [2017-08-02 22:22:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the tips, I definitely want to watch these too. What do you think is better about them though, specifically? What I like a lot about the original for example is how deeply it explores the main cast and how each member of it has a lot of depth. Wondering how that's possible to do within the span of three movies, especially since I heard they expanded on the action scenes, which were relatively brief in the original.

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webkilla In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-03 18:54:12 +0000 UTC]

You ask what is better about them

to answer this, I must give you a small history lesson on the original Evangelion show:

TLR - they ran out of money towards the end. The show basically never got a proper ending. I can only imagine that other corners, animation-wise, also ended up being cut to keep things within budget.

These movies are fixing that - they have all the money. They're cutting out a ton of the 'filler' episodes from the show - it was a monster of the week show after all - and introduces a few new interesting characters.

...and then it also sort of retcons a shitload of stuff from the show. A lot of fans consider the movies an alternate universe to the original show canon. I don't mind either, but I do find the movies superior, as "bio-mecha vs giant monster" entertainment.


and yes - they did action scenes a lot better. Holy crap. They did everything better: world-building, action, everything.

You want to get to the 1.11, 2.22 and 3.33 versions of the movies - they're sort of like the directors uncut versions, with a few more minutes of content. The plain 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 don't have everything in them.

Evangelion 1.11: You are (not) alone

Evangelion 2.22: You can (not) advance

Evangelion 3.33: You can (not) Redo

oh and lets just say that at movie 3 the movies radically diverge from what happened in the show. The fourth movie is supposedly currently in production, but has been delayed a number of times. I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

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MonoFlax In reply to webkilla [2017-08-04 01:51:47 +0000 UTC]

Hm... I have seen snippets of the fight scenes from the Rebuilds. They are bigger, and convey scale better, and spectacle... but they are also littered with CGI, especially on the angels. And at least from what I've seen, the editing doesn't seem to be nearly on top of the original series's game. A lot of that was propably indeed due to budget constraints, but... I don't see that as a disadvantage. It is afterall within the boundaries we get that we really start to find creative solutions. And I think that is what happened to the... "ending" of the show aswell. It went from what they later did in the EoE film to... well, a meta artsy thing. Though I should point out that the ending actually makes perfect sense with the rest of the show. It just doesn't give a lick about whether the viewer gets it or not. I am actually curíous as to what you consider filler in the show? I would actually say that there are things that should've been expanded upon, if anything. Like the twist with Lilith at the end of Ep. 24, which is never really brought up again in the show, although its such a vital part of what the conclusion is about. So I will definitely watch the rebuilds, and then I'll see what I like better

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webkilla In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-04 05:55:53 +0000 UTC]

Ya, they went heavy with the CGI

but honestly - for the angels - then I think it actually works. It gives an un-earthly vibe to them.

but ya, I can get why some might not like it.


as for 'filler' in the show - I don't consider very much of it filler, because there aren't that many episodes - but some of the things that happen simply aren't of as nearly great importance, as others.

Like, ep 4 which is all about Shinji having run away - that's condenced down into a much shorter sequence in the movies IIRC. Stuff like that. Not wasting 30 mins of that

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leonmyntti In reply to webkilla [2017-09-27 19:25:16 +0000 UTC]

I think the movies are garbage compared to the show. More dumbed down and streamlined, although they do change the story after the second one. Best to view the series first, although the End of Eva movie is better than the last 2 episodes of the show.

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ReaderNo31142 [2017-08-02 17:24:21 +0000 UTC]

looks fantastic, Max

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MonoFlax In reply to ReaderNo31142 [2017-08-02 22:23:14 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! :3

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Pankujei [2017-08-02 15:33:02 +0000 UTC]

I didn't understand the ending of the show :v ...
I became confused more and more D': ...

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MonoFlax In reply to Pankujei [2017-08-02 22:17:10 +0000 UTC]

Understandable. I think I understood the essentials of it by now, but only because I had the benefit of a HARDCORE eva fan "guiding" me through it, telling me the correct order to watch the show in order for the narrative to make most sense, and clearing a few things up the show just straight doesn't tell you. Like how Lilith just comes out of nowhere in ep 24 and is never brought up again although its like one of the most important turns in the story. The plot is littered with stuff like that xD

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Pankujei In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-04 15:58:29 +0000 UTC]

I guess, one of the main problems I had is that I watched the movies when I was a child :v ... (Very disturbing part of my childhood xD..)
That somehow helped me, but also confused me even more xD...

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MonoFlax In reply to Pankujei [2017-08-07 02:17:59 +0000 UTC]

Maybe you oughta give it another go then? Its actually really interesting to watch when you are more mature, in terms of character study. And you might very well get the story this time around!

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Pankujei In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-07 03:29:46 +0000 UTC]

Ill try after I finished Avatar again

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MonoFlax In reply to Pankujei [2017-08-07 12:27:35 +0000 UTC]

Oooh
The show? Its one of my favourites

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Pankujei In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-07 19:18:34 +0000 UTC]

Yea I realized I probably watched every episode in TV, but shuffled :'D

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Cambion-Hunter [2017-08-02 14:27:13 +0000 UTC]

Great job, MonoFlax. Evangelion is my favorite anime of all time. How much of it have you seen BTW?

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MonoFlax In reply to Cambion-Hunter [2017-08-02 22:18:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I can see why you like it so much, it really is a frikkin masterpiece. 
I watched all of the show and the "End of Evangelion" film. Haven't watched the rebuilds yet, but I am planning to

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Cambion-Hunter In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-03 00:21:59 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome and yes indeed. Rebuild kicks ass too. Check it out.

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MonoFlax In reply to Cambion-Hunter [2017-08-03 00:25:27 +0000 UTC]

Which one do you think is better?

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Cambion-Hunter In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-03 00:40:45 +0000 UTC]

The original, but Rebuild comes damn close.

And there are implications it may be a sequel........ Not confirmed.

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Zorbonaut [2017-08-02 13:06:28 +0000 UTC]

Incredible drawing! I never understood Japan's boner for our culture.

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MonoFlax In reply to Zorbonaut [2017-08-02 22:20:30 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, I think its funny actually. I don't see german as particularly cool or special, but that's propably just because I am so used to speaking it. A lot of people from other countries apparently dig german because of how powerfull some terms sound, and I think its the same with the japanese. Although you could argue that this relation between japan and germany goes back all the way to WW II but I know too little about that to tell you anything

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Zorbonaut In reply to MonoFlax [2017-08-03 18:19:47 +0000 UTC]

I read an article about German in Anime a million years ago... I think it's partly related to Germany being one of the central cultures of the middle ages, and anime's love for fantasy. Like SnK is probably set in alternate germany, there are many quotes from Faust in Madoka Magica, etc. Makes me kinda sad that there's no german folk hero in the Fate series.

Also yeah, I think Germany and Japan just have been on politically amiable terms for a long time.

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