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Vcampbe [2017-01-04 21:32:29 +0000 UTC]
Hey Mr. Internet if you are doing request could you please do a Mystique or a Inque( from Batman Beyond)?
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MrInternetMan In reply to Vcampbe [2017-01-04 23:47:03 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for your interest but I do not take requests.
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Fanatic-Fusion In reply to MrInternetMan [2017-01-05 19:27:21 +0000 UTC]
I figured you don't take requests because you mainly stick to drawing many forms of your one character. To each his own but if you do decide to branch out beyond casual drawing it would be neat to see you try your hand on other things.
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MrInternetMan In reply to Fanatic-Fusion [2017-01-05 23:55:51 +0000 UTC]
Actually the reason I don't take requests is that my time is limited and I don't have all the time in the world to work on everything I'd like to, so I have to pick and choose. And if that is that case, I'm going to prioritize the stuff I like to draw first and foremost.
In addition, opening the door to requests would simply be a bad precedent to set. I've personally experience situations where people would not take "no" for an answer, and I don't want to be in a situation where another feels that they can dictate what I should or should not be drawing simply because they want to see me draw it. Doing a "request" can quickly become "You are working for me for free."
I know it sounds harsh, but that's the hard line I feel I have to draw. If someone really likes my work, they should be willing to pay for it. If not, then the person may not be so much of a fan than they are someone just looking for someone else to do their work for them.
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Fanatic-Fusion In reply to MrInternetMan [2017-01-06 07:56:33 +0000 UTC]
You can always set limits and run a poll, and even limit it to one a month if you have to. Ensuring that people don't become greedy with a free item teaches them not to abuse things that and it provides you with a safety net of sorts. As I've said you're free to draw what you want but I just hope you branch out. Perhaps you won't even have to do requests if you communicate with people more find out what interests your fans like, i.e me I like the various suits of your character so you could just I dunno make a demonica-esque bayonetta for instance. You aren't required to do it but if you think outside the box once in a while that would keep things interesting.
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MrInternetMan In reply to Fanatic-Fusion [2017-01-06 23:02:32 +0000 UTC]
Or I could stick with my policy, since it works well for me, and if people want to see me draw something specific they can respect my decision and pay me for the drawings they want to see.
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Fanatic-Fusion In reply to MrInternetMan [2017-01-07 17:57:30 +0000 UTC]
If you feel that will work for you in the long run let me know how it turns out. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable charging above 20$ for a digital picture until my skill nets me hundreds more watchers.
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MrInternetMan In reply to Fanatic-Fusion [2017-01-07 18:02:58 +0000 UTC]
Well, given the fact that I have over 300 watchers, and over 300,000 page views, I think it's working out fine.
People seem to already like what I'm putting out. Especially since I'm putting it out for free. And if they want me to do something different, they are free to pay my rates.
I don't see why I need to change my policy. Especially when such requests usually just seem to be a roundabout way of saying "Draw what I want you to draw for free."
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Fanatic-Fusion In reply to MrInternetMan [2017-01-07 18:48:52 +0000 UTC]
Well if you think it fits with your life schedule then I won't argue there. We all can't be Sakimichan
I imagine so, but not to a huge extent to be honest, as my friend on here (who has over 10k watchers) would say it's small and modest but you can't let it go to your head. I barely have over 100 and haven't done art in well over a year.
I'm not saying you should, but you could think about it when you decide to dig deeper into art and gain more of a following. That or setting up a patreon where if you hit a goal you could do monthly requests. There are soo many ways you could go about it to both get what you want and give something back. All i'll say to end it is it's up to you but just know that there are ways you can do things to benefit yourself and others in a win-win.
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MrInternetMan In reply to Fanatic-Fusion [2017-01-07 19:13:19 +0000 UTC]
Except I don't have to.
I have a well paying job that allows me to live comfortably. So drawing is just a hobby I do on my own for my own enjoyment. I'm not trying to make a profession at it yet. I have plenty of pageviews. I have plenty of watchers. I'm not looking to make this a competition. The more people watching means that more people are enjoying it. I'm not trying to get rich doing this.
Oh, I could probably get a lot more views if I do something different. But I'm not interested in doing that. This is a page that is about the stuff I am interested in. I fully understand that something like female to female transformations is not going to appeal to everyone.
I'm also not sure why I have to "give back" something when I am offering something completely for free. People are turning on to what I am doing. I don't see the need to cater to a very select few when there are many, many others who are happy with what I am doing the way it stands. And if they do want to see me do a specific drawing, then they have the option of paying me.
And, honestly, this whole discussion shows exactly why I don't take requests. You asked, I explained my position. But rather than respect my position, you keep giving me options as to what I can do to take requests, even thought I've explained that it has no interest for me. I continued to explain my position, but you keep giving me options to take requests. That's the sort of situation I want to avoid in regards to taking requests.
Opening the door to accepting requests means that I am going to get people who don't really care about my work, but just want me to do work for them for free. I have no way of knowing if these people are fans of my work, or if they are just looking for a free drawing and a free ride. It also means that I am opening the door for people who don't take no for an answer. Who would keep harassing me to work on their projects, or wondering why I haven't started working on their project yet, or why I'm not drawing what they want yet, and so on. I've already banned someone just like this from sending me messages because they wouldn't take no for an answer. They sent me daily messages asking me to work on their project even though I already told them I only accept commissions. I've also already had to deal with another person this month who kept sending me messages on an hourly basis asking me about accepting work on his project, even sending me multiple messages when he saw that I didn't immediately respond to his last message (I had stepped away from the computer to make supper at the time).
And using the "It could really gain you more of a following" argument isn't going to sway me either. Again, there are a lot of things I could do to increase my following. A lot of fetishes and situations that would get a number of people to check out my page. But there are a lot of things I am not comfortable drawing and will never draw. Which also ties into the requests situation. Even if I accepted requests, I doubt people would accept "no" for an answer if I told them I am not comfortable drawing that, because they could simply fall back on the rationale "But it would gain you more of a following/ make you more popular." It could. Or it could be just one person wanting me to draw the specific thing they are interested in, and are trying to give a grander, more moral "justification" for me accepting their work rather than (a) accepting that I won't draw something for them or (b) simply cough up the money to have me or someone else draw it for them.
So, no. This policy is not going to change. I'm not going to alter my stance. I'm not going to change my mind. If you want me to do a drawing for you, then pay me to do it for you. I'm not going to do requests. End of story. You and others don't have to respect that. But it is something that you need to accept.
If you want me to draw Demonica turning into Bayonetta, I will do so when my schedule opens up and if you pay me the price I give you. But if you don't want to pay me to do that work for you, then I'm not going to be doing it. And asking me to reconsider and start accepting requests is not going to change my mind. All it tells me is that it looks like you are just trying to get me to do a free drawing for you, and you hope that you can somehow alter things so that you will get your request some way in the end. Which seems to me to be a bit of a waste, because I think saving up your money in order to afford a drawing or series of drawings is far easier than trying to get someone to change their policy.
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Fanatic-Fusion In reply to MrInternetMan [2017-01-07 22:30:26 +0000 UTC]
With everything you said you certainly don't have to make it a profession and you don't need a fandom in the sense that you would branch out and do more unless you make a profit if you are comfortable with your standard of living then having a small fanbase is the best thing for you any greater fanbase would incentivize you for more money creating this as a side job.
And that is why it's perfectly fine now that I understand you are doing this as a hobby. For someone like me that doesn't have the luxeries like you do I aim to gain more from art if I can become more motivated to do so.
You don't have to do anything that people want, like I said I understand what you are saying so I take back the advice I gave, I realize it was very wrong to give the impression that you wanted to do more with art beyond drawing what you like. Don't take that the wrong way i'm just now understanding your thought process.
And I understand why you don't take requests and I explained that I misunderstood your intent for art and being on deviantart is just for a small fandom and to make money on the side. If I valued money over art I would get no where mainly because it wouldn't motivate me to improve but that is just my own thoughts on the matter as I said I misunderstood your intentions.
There are always going to be obstinate people when you are appealing to the public I don't have to tell that or how to deal with them.
I don't expect you to change now that I have the full story. I wouldn't want to commission works from you (for one i'm strapped for cash after the holiday season and two i'm trying to get back into art myself) but that doesn't mean someone else wouldn't pay you eventually. I respect that you don't want to do requests, you do what you want to do afterall I don't control what you do, I just wrongly assumed and now you've explained everything I don't have to push the matter further.
From this point on I won't push the matter or ask anything of you without paying you first if it comes to that. If you were burned badly by people then I know how you feel, it sucks to have people pester the living crap out of you for one thing trust me i've been down that road MANY times. I'm only coming from the perspective of someone who is trying to build up a following and gain popularity and money etc. You want to focus on yourself and what small time things you can do, again nothing wrong with that at all.
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poplovestar [2017-01-02 16:43:43 +0000 UTC]
Lovely
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