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Mrs-Durden β Let's get shit straight...
Published: 2019-03-06 19:34:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 1306; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 0
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Art that happens to be mature content is still art whether you like it or not. And it shouldn't be an after-thought on an art site. It shouldn't be something that's given no attention to other than with regards to hiding it or getting rid of it for the poor souls who cannot stand it. Mature content deserves as much attention as any other art. Just because boobs are included in a photo, or some blood, or ideologically sensitive content, or whatever else, doesn't mean that artwork deserves to be cast aside for "family friendly" stuff instead. I'm not talking about shit that violates rules,or cellphone dick selfies here, I'm talking about legitimate artists who make outstanding art that is WORTHY of our time and appreciation. They don't deserve to be ignored, shunned, hidden away, black listed, just because their art happens to be mature content.
Rant over. If you're not happy about it I don't care.
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I'm in this platform for more than 11 years (this account is 11 years but I've an older one) , and since that time, mature content/nude content was filtered by age, etc etc.
What I've been seeing through the years is like a social regression of all sorts. In societies but also in the cyberworld.Β In Deviantart things are, how can I say, FUCKING WEIRD!!!!
I see fake profiles, stolen Art, stolen intellectual property, all kind of things that should get banned, controlled and avoided.
But what I see more, is the discrimination against mature/nude art. And I'm not talking about things that violate rules, even though I think some rules are just weird as hell. Ok this is not a porn site, but cmon people being offended 'cause of woman with a macro on her genitals? Hey I see more stolen pics here and intellectual crime than dick picks. And if people get offended 'cause of a picture of a nude person, and cry a river about that (when they just see it if they want) , why that same people don't do nothing when they see fake profiles or stolen pictures?
Just saying...
I'm a huge fan of nude artwork, nude photography, even more erotic (something that deviantart has a strange "filter" to it - In a stupid way I think) and I see some more crap works here (of common people like me) , than erotic. So I don't understand the problem that some users find about nude works.
Snowflake generation? Don't know and honestly I don't fking care. Tired about all this nowadays political correctness and censorshipΒ in everything. I call most of it : Hipocrisy!
If an image of a woman naked in woods with a candle in one hand and a dildo near her lips or vaginal lips is to get banned , well what to say about some shit 'that isn't art at all, in all categories. I advise people to go just for a 30 minutes search.
Another thing that bothers me like hell, is receiving private messages with threats, or with stupid nonsense at all , when for exampleΒ this account don't contain almost no nudity. 'Cause if it was for me , oh this account would be more severe to that puritans snowflake generations that can't handle a nude on a website , but in real life shove it up their eyes (and bodies)Β and relationships like no others, or in skype or whatssapp. Hypocrites they are. Simple as that.
And even Deviantart should think a little about the rules they have and the range.
If drawing like a retard , with no content or context at all is art and a nude picture cannot be ('cause a fking dildo near a mouth or a genitals) , 'cause its offensive. Let's bring the question
What's art? what's offensive?
Paedophiles its truly a nastyΒ stuff, and deviantart also have it a lot. What to say about that uhm?
Sorry the long text, kudos to You , bringing this subject. Continue Your good works!
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Well said, to you and everybody here
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I don't have anything against nudity on Deviantart but there's a problem when artists are drawing nasty fetishes like inflation; posting selfies of their genitals, breasts, and butts; and drawing women with their vaginas spread out. But it also pisses me off that there are pedophiles and art thieves on this website. There are kids and teenagers on this website and I don't want them seeing things that will give them nightmares or be disgusted. It gives the website a bad reputation whenever anybody is on the front page or they are typing on the search engine and they see things that's inappropriate or has nothing related to their search regardless if it's original artwork or fan art.
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Well said random person, well said.
There's a person who watches me, that they draw inflatoins and stuff like that, but it's more cartoon-ish and stuff. But i also agree.Once, when i was searching anime, i put see all in anime, then 3 nude pics of ariana grande had showed up, and the person who posted it , their name was Celebrity Nude Pics.
I was disgusted and shocked.
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That's really nasty. I hope this creep is arrested. But I hope these creeps that draw nasty fetishes, art thieves, and perverted photographers are banned. But I hope the pedophiles that are on Deviantart are killed violently or arrested because I can't stand seeing fan art and original artwork of underage characters being used for fetishes and sexual content.
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Who Is The One Who Posted The NSFW Pictures Of Ariana Grande?
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Yep!if you mabey type, Ariana Grande Clothes or somthin like that, it might pop up.
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You're right but sadly we're living in the age of the 'few easily offended people'.
You have an app that displays art and want to be on Apple's app store on on the Google's Chrome store? Better be sure you don't have a side view of a bare female breast even with a covered nipple, cause that will get your app banned from both as it might "offend" people.Β
Which highlights the problem when people or companies in power start to "protect" us from content that might offend just a few of us. Take china for example. They blur earrings in male actors (anti-gay), crop TV and movies so no cleavage can be seen (anti-sex) and it goes on and on there. Such things start to happen at this part of the world too. Take Apple's upcoming entry in the streaming market. It's is going to to be family friendly, offense free (no mention of sex, religion, body fluids etc. or anything normal or things we take for granted) so it can be shown on Apple's apps and stores without offending anybody.
Or take payment gateways like "PayPal". No adult or sexualized content allowed. How does an adult content artist utilizing the internet then get paid? It's smart though, block off the money flow and you starve those "terrible offending dreadful" adult content artists off. Β And those gateways are the reason why for example Patreon is clamping down on adult content, where other soon will follow. DA, who knows, maybe one day too.
And we can rant all we want, I see no way to revert this road we're on forcing us into this offense free 'utopia'.
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if you're tired of the censorship, gab.com doesn't have any. and they're in the process of putting in an "album" feature.
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truth is truth. deviantart censors people. sometimes just to stop people complaining. I've seen art here that hasn't broken any rules, but enough people bitch that deviantart takes it down. gab.com doesn't do that, and it's one of the few places now that doesn't.
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Deviantart's problem is that they have double standards toward sexual arts and non sexual but nude arts, where the former will get swept up withing the waves of moderation, but the latter gets little moderation and can go on to the front page even though they're more sexual than the former. The solution isn't anti-abolitionism, but rather a shift in focus and direction and also gab does "censor" (it's just moderation) it's content, like with 4chan to legal extents like banning CP and they have banned a post from a neo-nazi, they're not the Slab City of the internet you or any other people who prop up Gab to be y'know, the part of the no censorship aspect you're propping up is not subtle, we know what you're talking about.
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you "know" what I'm talking about? really? are you secretly professor X?
I'm talking about a lack of censorship. plenty of people have posted things here that aren't against the rules, but they get censored anyways. is that right? is that fair?
gab doesn't censor. you have no idea what you're talking about. the only things you can't do is doxx someone, and post pedophile garbage.
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Because usually when a "free speech alternative" for anything comes up, the first to come are usually the ones that kicked off the other boat for unsavory behavior and if you are so sure there is a case of censorship without clear established precedent, you could probably make a case for a violation of antitrust law, and here's the thing the rule that's probably the reference here is "depiction of sexual themes" of which deviantart can at any time (because it is so goddamn vague) they can say that a piece violated the rule and they can take it down, but the problematic element is that it's so vague and my point is that typically within more unsavory circles, moderation and the banning of certain types of content (no matter what legal precedent the ban may follow, like the fact that technically lolicon is technically illegal) is taken as "censorship" even though it is just cleaning up the forum so as to make sure it functions in the way it intends to (IM NOT EVEN JOKING PEOPLE UNIRONICALLY GOT MAD THAT GAB BANNED LOLI SHIT AND TRIED TO PULL THE SAME GODDAMN FREEZE PEACH DEFENSE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BASIC AND FULLY LEGAL MODERATION THE WHOLE TIME THAT WAS USED THE CATALYST FOR MANY PEOPLEΒ GOING ONTO GAB BECAUSE THEY WERE BANNED FOR POSTING CHILD PORN ON NORMIE SITES OH MY G O D).
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Preach!
A lot of the new nude work I've seen as of late brings a measure of taste into question.Β Is it "soft porn" or just a "perspective" or "fetish"?Β I dropped from several groups because I didn't care for what was being accepted, but I didn't raise a metaphorical banner saying all is lost.Β I just didn't like what I was seeing, plain and simple.Β Some groups have sent requests for a few of my deviations to be permitted there, but I always look at the content currently present.Β If I don't like it, if I don't want to be associated with them, I say no.Β No raging, no lecturing, none of that.Β
What I've been dealing with as of late are people coming to said deviations and leaving really creepy comments.Β Rather than commenting on the modeling (I'm the model) or even reading the information regarding the picture, I constantly receive comments calling me sexy and all things along those lines.Β I reported a couple because they also sent me notes requesting private sessions, photographs just for the, and other things that don't need mentioning because anyone reading this can likely imagine what I had to read.Β It's the viewers that are, most often, the issue.Β
The commentary is one of the reasons why I've stopped modeling.Β I want to work for the artist/photographer/sculptor without dealing with creeps and people who make me feel like I need to bathe in bleach.Β I also don't want to deal with the Puritans lecturing me.Β It's exhausting.
Before I go to the main page with new deviations I do turn on the mature filter.Β A lot of what's submitted isn't what I want to see.Β I turn it off when I go check out the DDs because those are in good taste IMHO.Β
I've only reported things that are blatantly pornographic, like insertion of toys, opening the vulva with fingers, displaying an erection, etc.Β IMHO we ALL have to follow the rules, it's why they're there.Β Unless it's a clear violation of those rules I don't bother.Β
Folks who don't want to see nudity or mature content just put the filter up and shut up.
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Some people are just crazy. I think you're completely correct, sista
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I do notice the site kinda has a problem whenever a mature content filter is put on a picture, it will get noticeably less favs when compared to something without a filter on it... It stems from the fact that the site doesn't show any pic with a mature content filter on it if you have the filter on. When years ago in the past it'd just show the grey box when browsing. But since an update a long time ago it now doesn't show them at all, which contributes to their loss in attention... which is a shame really.
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Please do not use my post and drag/insult people in it. You linked a bunch of peoples art to essentially call them out, I don't appreciate that so I'll be hiding your comment. I don't want artists to be publicly called out on my page.
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No I didn't use this post to call out people. How else would you have gotten my point without visual guide? Screen shots? I'm sure you would have found a reason to be upset with those too. Them being notified was only a side effect of it.Β I would have gladly done that and yet you still call what they make art? and those people artists? Really? And you take issue with them being listed here when they are ALL ON the main page and being forced into our faces? And yet, with the post hidden, you fail to address a single one of my questions and use that as an excuse to censor and reroute/redirect the perfectly valid points I made. The Irony.Β I guess there in lays the nature of the beast.... Your response and tone, (Which is a natural extension from the tone of the rant, if otherwise, please feel free to correct me), when my tone was polite and inquiring tells me all I need to know about where your priorities lie in representing DA and your stance on such things and you are the speaker for the house so you speak for all of DA then. Shame really.
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Feel free to feel that way, I don't have the time or desire to continue this argument. I didn't want people being tagged into a comment disrespecting their work, regardless of how I feel about whether it is ''good'' art or not, so I hid your comment because this is my personal space and I can choose whether or not I want people to be dragged into something they have nothing to do with (my journal).
Have a good day.
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So you are not speaking in an official capacity then but in a personal one? Okay, I respect that.
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Yes I am only speaking about how I personally feel, what my viewpoint is on the topic
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I thought you were speaking in your official capacity, not just venting your feelings on a personal level, and again, for that you have my apologies. I never intended to invade your right to your feelings or your personal journal space. 
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Absolutely forgive you, thank you
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Agreed 100%. I've been around long enough to remember when mjranum had to deal with even his safe photos being tagged as mature simply because people were having hot flashes and pearl clutching reactions to "sexy" women. It's pathetic.
There has definitely been an ongoing wave of images being uploaded to dA that depict people being subjected to acts, sexual or otherwise, against their will, and these folks are using the word "fetish" to hide behind. Taking a look at the Most Popular of All Time Fetish photography images on dA shows a BIG difference in the quality and intention when compared to the Most Popular of the last 24 hours or last week. These kinds of images are now permeating other categories as well, particularly the Photomanip and Digital Painting categories.
It is a shame that legitimately good artists who make gorgeous Fetish images are being drowned out by what essentially amounts to Pornhub-style content.
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Has someone been having a go at you?
Either way I'll put my opinion on the table - I've never had an issue with mature art - nudes/blood/ideologically sensitive - in fact, those things can add another level to an already great photo/painting/story etc.Β
My issue is with crudely drawn cartoon girls with boobs or behind (or both) unrealistically big, like bigger than the rest of the body. I once had a guy on here ask me to draw a 10 year old character from a TV show in a bikini with boobs. I don't really even draw - I think he was just asking anyone who'd answer him.Β
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YES. Art can be challenging and boundary-pushing. If people don't want to be challenged or have their boundaries pushed, fair enough. To each their own. There's plenty of art that I don't personally enjoy for whatever reason. But groups on DA prohibiting horror submissions is so commonplace now that I don't even think about it anymore. It's become normal for people not to accept horror as art to the point where it's often presented as a moral issue. It doesn't have to be to everyone's taste (is anything to everyone's taste?) but that doesn't make it Not Art.
One of the qualities of DA listed on the Advertise With Us info page is 'audacious'.
So, willingness to take bold risks.Β
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You and I are pretty old-school.Β Remember when dA (hell yes I used the lower-case "d") meant "deviant" ART?
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Word.
I'm with you right there.
And those who do not want to see it can leave their mature filter on. Easy.
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Yeah I get worried with my Crystal Magnum piece because I was hearing a lot about something called purity league or something and mines actually rather tasteful in my opinion. No pussy shots or anything like that was just practicing burlesque body types.Β Crystal Magnum Β I still worry I will get in trouble over it though.
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That one should not get you in trouble.Β If it did, I'd raise hell on your behalf.
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lol I would hope so because I see stuff on here all the time that violates policy like masturbation images, insertion images, and stuff XDΒ
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I'd like to see a vetted voluntary group be implemented.Β Not to so much be "the police" (in other words, they don't have the final say), but to at least be the front line on policy.
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phydeau I am with you 100 percent... they could be implemented into the volunteer staff and part of the DA enforcement team since they haven't been able or willing to commit the money or emplyees to doing so and this whole place is run by volunteers for the love of this place anyway... so absolutely brilliant, brilliant idea!!!!Β Btw, your gallery is stunning and absolutely gorgeous artistic nudes!
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Thanks for the compliment.
I seriously have been wanting a volunteer group for years, since, as you said, this place is already largely volunteers.
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I wish they would consider it and have a hierarchy of volunteers to bring forth issues and then enforce them. I am also for more strict tagging and content blockers so I don't have to see so much sexualized violence to women or soft cor porn yet still be able to view amazing works that are created for artistic reasons that have "adult" content in it. I just am not sure that DA really cares... it has the major hold on the market, raking in millions through adds and view, etc... they do what they want and despite what they say, really don't care about us. Yet we remain... because we love our art, our community, the social support, groups, challenges and more which are no where else to be found.
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Makes sense I usually just ignore images anymore I don't bother reporting unless its like child porn or under-aged nudity.
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I've been trying to say something for, like, 30 minutes.
Basically, that's the problem.Β People don't even bother to report things, anymore.Β We have robots making the decisions.
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I know and understand your frustration all too well, I gave up after I reported child porn and the artist threw a shitty excuse at the mods and they let it fly. They told the mods it was a 30 year old man who liked to dress up like little girls and get spanked (had spank marks on the inner thighs like genitalia spanked) but the image screamed little girl who'd been raped it was quite disturbing. It was rather evident what it really was. It got a pass and that's where I stopped caring because it caused more stress than it solved problems.Β
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Your work is beautiful... I would be so proud if I had created a work such as that.
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Thank you T.T; That means a lot to me. I really spent a lot of time on this piece. I think about 2 weeks a few hours day.
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You should be very, very proud and imo, this is the kind of work that deserves attention on the front, main page and would adore it in my feed. If I put the adult content filter on, I would never get the opportunity to a wonderful work like yours is.
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Thank you so much. I put the filter on to keep the kids safe, because if I don't want to expose my kid to it I think other parents deserve that respect as well. It's hard sometimes with pieces like this versus the smut pieces because the filter applies the same across the board. I wish DA had a system of different blocks in place like the filter we have up for mature mature stuff and have a blur for milder things it would be cool.
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Yeah people can share whatever they want, if people don't like it they can push the go back one page or cover their eyes
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