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Cheslittle [2018-07-02 14:41:29 +0000 UTC]
Sempre vou preferir a Road hahahaha, mals ai Lenalee. HAHAHAHA bem a cara do Lavi achar isso o máximo né...
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Chaoussu [2018-01-08 01:03:00 +0000 UTC]
BWAHAHHAHA This is too funny!!!
Honestly they both have good points!
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-01-17 22:41:27 +0000 UTC]
True, true. Which one of them you like better?
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-01-17 23:29:27 +0000 UTC]
as a character I like Road more, however I think Lenalee wins this fight
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-01-18 20:49:11 +0000 UTC]
I confess I also like Road a lot more XD
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-01-20 17:01:10 +0000 UTC]
TEAM ROAD!!!
though I am not sure if I want her to be with Allen due to all of Lenalee's reasons
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-01-31 17:59:15 +0000 UTC]
Well, I don't know. I think it depends a lot of how the story goes XD
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-01-31 18:42:21 +0000 UTC]
That is true, but so far I am not vouching for her. Mostly because I have some theories about her feelings towards Allen
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-01-31 19:33:12 +0000 UTC]
Oooh, tell me, tell me????
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-01-31 20:14:15 +0000 UTC]
Well I just have a theory that she isn't really interested in Allen-Allen, but more like the Nea-Allen... do you get what I am saying?
Unlike the others, Road wasn't killed by Nea, which makes me think, why didn't she die? Did Nea not kill her because he couldn't or because he didn't want to? I mean the guy killed all of the Noahs except of the Earl, who is Mana his twin brother (from what we are told), which shows that he might've had issues with killing him, but what about Road? What makes her a special exception?
Some scenes in the manga shows that she was close with Mana and so she must've been close to Nea as well. Furthermore her last words before disappearing was "Don't stop, keep walking", which were important words said by Nea to Mana, which she also told Allen, showing that Nea might not be THAT bad... or at least not in her head.
She also has a great liking towards Tyki, as seen in how she freaked out when Tyki was greatly hurt, while she was pretty much okay with Skinn Bolic dying (Noah memory made her cry but that's all). She seriously attacked Allen, due to the pain he caused Tyki, and Tyki looks a lot like Nea, which both Wisely and Road think, as Wisely mentioned it to Road, but she wanted him to keep it a secret.
Then when Wisely talks to the weakened Road, he mentions the deep hatred his Noah memories has for Road, but she only and somewhat reluctantly says that Nea is different from them and that makes him scary, showing that she doesn't have much hatred towards him, despite of everything.
Furthermore I see no reason about why she must be that interested in Allen, I mean yeah he can see the akuma souls and wants to save them, and yeah she did play around with him, showing that she was a noah, destroying an akuma soul and taunting/teasing him a lot, but that is like a kid showing interest in a toy, not something deeper that would make her risk herself for him. I mean as seen here, SHE FREAKING STABBED HIS EYE WITH A CANDLE! Suddenly she won't allow him to get punched by Apocryphos?! I mean the guy wanted to absorb Allen, not kill him, so how much damage would it cause Allen?
Tyki also mentioned that she probably didn't wake up because the hit damaged her Noah memories, meaning that she might've protected him from the attack in order to protect his Noah Memories a.k.a NEA
That is my theory
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-03-08 00:23:50 +0000 UTC]
I thought about that, too! It's true, we don't know if she is in love with Allen or somehow felt "Neah" without realizing it and mixed her feelings up.
I think she didn't die because she is too powerful and may have retreated to her "dream" before Neah could deliver the killing blow (plus, remember that Allen threw his Crown Clown sword at her and it didn't do a single thing)... I think he tried to kill the Noah to help Mana who was being dominated by the "Earl" side (I mean, they both used to be a single entity, but Mana was the one who became the Millennium Earl... -> And yes, this was confusing as hell to me. Just.... What?)
I think she at least understood why Neah wanted to kill the Noah and, as such, doesn't hate him like the others do. Neah's attack, as Wisely said, was strong enough to break their memories, so they don't have a sensation of "family" with him, only a hatred they can't truly understand. Road survived, therefore, she remembers it. Wisely obviously do as well, but is keeping his mouth shut. I don't think she was okay with Skin Bolic dying, I think they just "felt" that their tears didn't fully come from themselves, but "something else inside them" (I have no idea if I'm explaining it right). If they were alright with it, they wouldn't have attacked the Order later on and messed with Kanda's memories of Karma. The Earl himself said that though they had took the chance to get control over the Third, they were doing this for Skin Bolic. Kinda reminds me of how Chrollo and the Spiders went on a mass killing and Chrollo was at the top window of the building, moving his hands like a maestro and saying it was a elegy for their fallen comrade in HunterxHunter...
Like I said, I think this is because she KNOWS he and Mana/Earl used to be a single being, while the others either don't know or forgot.
And I see your point and I agree. I also have no idea if her feelings for Allen are genuine or if she just wants to mess with him (again, in HunterxHunter, Hisoka was worried when Gon was nearly dead and even helped him before, but this is a man who just wants to wait for Gon to grow up and become stronger so HE CAN KILL HIM). I get the Noah are all messed up in the head, but this is a special kind of "messed up". I think being absorbed WOULD be worse than the candle, if Allen was absorbed, he would just cease to exist and be a part of Apocryphos. She may "punish" him per say (and oh, god, this sounds wrong in several levels, sorry), but won't kill him OR allow him to be taken by a creature (and frankly? Thank God! I think dying is FAR better than to lose your conscience and sense of self, becoming a part of that thing. Assimilation scenarios such as this are such a nightmare fuel to me... *shivers*).
Well, we have some options regarding her emotions...
1) She pierced him in the eye because he said she was a human. Road has show a GREAT DEAL of hate for humanity, almost as if it's personal, so being called one by Allen was enough to make her pierce him like that (just like Tyki can snap like he did in the white Ark, it was her berserk button). Honestly, the Noahs can have pretty fragile self control and pretty scary tempers (And I'm looking at you, Sheryl).
2) She wasn't IN LOVE with him then, she merely said that she had decided she would love someone like him (and may have even lied, messing up with your enemy's mind is a good way to win and the Noahs clearly enjoy this sort of thing). Perhaps after seeing him crying for an akuma (something NO Exorcist would do), she saw that his determination to destroy akumas in order to save the souls was genuine (following her hate for humans, she probably would have mocked him for being a hypocrite had he not ACTUALLY fought to help, to the point of putting himself in danger, as the explosion could have either hurt him pretty bad or even killed him). After seeing that what he preached was true, she started to actually feel something... And like a little girl with a crush, she went with all and that's how in their next meeting, she was kissing him, sitting in his lap and whining that she didn't want to get away from him.
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Road, please go to therapy, honey.
3) Like you said, she may even "like him" (after all, Allen is very different from the Exorcists they meet. He speaks of peace and uses his Innocence with the purpose of saving akumas and humans, not with the idea of just winning the war or something. He has a sort of purity and determination that they have never seen before and it calls their attention), but is not "in love" with him. Following this, she may be just messing with him when she says she loves him or she is mixing her feelings up without realizing it (we have not seen her reaction to the reveal that Allen has Neah and she has not spoken of the subject, so we don't know).
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-03-08 10:33:51 +0000 UTC]
I guess you're right, after all Road did call Neah complicated and hard to understand.
As for why Mana started turning into the earl. They were one entity in the beginning and split up, which doesn't mean that the previous earl had died. He just split up, which can mean that his traits got divided. Then it can be theorised that Mana is the Noah part of the earl and awakened to his lust of killing humanity later in his life, while Mana was the more "human" part of him. Again I have no idea about what kind of person the previous earl was, except he seems to have been one in a lot of suffering due to how Wisely described him and how he was crying while looking at the sun
Well I have no idea which one it is, but I do suspect that she has some feelings for him. Whether it is love-love or family-love I don't know, but Road is too nice to Neah and Allen, for me not to suspect anything. Like you said she could have been ticked off about him having called her a human, which is sort of understandable (I would get pissed/sad if someone called me a spider, disclaimer I hate spiders).
However I am leaning towards nr. 2 as I think she mostly just had a great interest in him because like you said, he was different and thus somewhat more interesting. She also said her dream was to see him suffer, which means she finds him entertaining to mess with.
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-04-09 01:07:49 +0000 UTC]
Same here, it's just confusing as hell. I think maybe Mana got more of the Earl's memories (reason why he is all "I have a mission" at times), or like you said, the Noah side of him despite having lived like a human for so long. I'm just confused at how he "died" and later got "revived" by the Earl... Ugh, I'm so confused.
Indeed, she shows more care for them than she did for anyone else. Heck, even Tyki was shocked that she kissed Allen, as she never did so to anyone that wasn't the Earl. Even if she was just messing with Allen, then, she wouldn't have done so. I'm leaning more to "she was teasing him at first, but fell for him when she saw he truly cares for saving akumas" stuff.
Yes, my take is that being compared to a human, for her, was the "berserk button". Like, don't ever do it unless you want to severely piss her off. And yes, I'm lean more towards the second option. I think her interest became something serious (I just don't know how serious it is).
I think that, as a Noah, she wants to mess with him. They are still enemies and she said that Noah feel a killing desire when meeting an Exorcist and the Earl also commented they can NEVER forget their hate for Innocence.
On the other hand, as a girl, she is interested in Allen and would like to be able to spend time with him in a normal way (cue her sitting in his lap and being all cuddly when she met him in the Ark).
Reason why, if Allen was to become a Noah without losing himself (meaning, without being taken by Neah), she would be on cloud nine (along with Tyki Mikk).
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-04-14 17:46:38 +0000 UTC]
Maybe they referred to Mana as "dead" once the earl took over. Then once he killed Nea, the shock from doing so, shocked the Mana part of him so much that Mana took over, thus was "revived" due to the Earl's action of killing Nea. Then he lived as Mana for a while and met Allen, but then once he was dead again, he "revived" the earl part of him, as the shock made Mana think that he was dead?... now I am confused and this was my idea... though I don't think it is correct. If it is correct, then I am going to say "what a headache"
Yeah I definitely would get pissed if someone compared me to a spider (note: I absolutely hate spiders). I definitely remember some classmates in middle school comparing me to something (what it was, I don't remember) and I started beating them up Well you can never tell how serious people are about a topic like that. Not even the people who are being serious or the person they are being serious towards.
Yeah that is the best idea so far. She would definitely be happy if that happened, along with Tyki, along with the Earl and Sheril will just get overly pissed
btw did you notice how close cloud nine is to Klaud Neine the general? I couldn't help but think about her, when I read it
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2018-07-02 19:43:38 +0000 UTC]
Maybe... I don't know, really, this part is confusing as hell to me. I kinda understand what you mean and yeah, it makes sense. I mean, we need SOME explanation here!
Yes, things like that can get in someone's nerves, so I think that's what made Road react like that... I can't say that she would favor Allen over Neah, since we have no idea of what their relationship was like, but I think she truly cares for him, at least on SOME level. Sheril would be furious either way, if you ask me XD If it was Allen joining, he would be angry. If it was Neah, he would be angry just as well (there is no pleasing this guy, is there? XD) As for the Earl... I have no idea. I think it depends how much of "Mana" may be left in him or if he would see Allen as being the new "neah"... Argh, why this family has to be so complicated???
Yup, I did XD
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2018-07-06 12:11:43 +0000 UTC]
Yeah... sadly enough the chapters aren't coming out as fast in the past (though I must admit the quality went up, which I appreciate)
I don't know either. They say all the Noahs hate Neah, so in a way Road should like Allen more than Neah, but well... Road seems to know more, even more than the Earl. I think Road and Wisely are the only ones that know what happened with Nea, because the Earl certainly seems spiteful as well as confused about anything regarding Nea. I just think that they don't say anything because of the Earl's obviously weak mentally (proven by his second meeting with Neah).
back to topic, Sheril would DEFINITELY HATE IT, if either Allen or Neah joins them for a while, because he doesn't want Road too close to Allen (especially with what happened to Road) and as I said before, all Noahs are supposed to hate Neah, so... yeah Sheril hates Neah, why? I don't know. I don't know if he even knows why himself. Road and Tyki would be happy hands down, the Earl... I think he would be happy, but only because of his previous statement of wanting to be close to Neah and hugging him while crying... so... I'm guessing he would be happy, even if Allen is present, he can still pull Neah out, as proven during the many times Neah had come out after some provocation.
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2019-02-21 21:02:21 +0000 UTC]
Same here. The art go so much better, but things are so complicated I have no idea of what to think anymore. And it's being so slow that it can make the fandom's interest fade. Not disappear, but some people may give up on the story (I hope not many, though).
I think the Noah who were "killed" hate him, or better saying, the "memory" hates him due to the betrayal, which must be a hell of a sin. It's something that just don't happen between them. Road, however, was not killed so she, as a person, remembers the details of what happened and perhaps has a better understanding of it as well. She hasn't showed an outright hostility for Neah yet and Tyki, while he seems to hate Neah too, seems to like Allen to an extent. I think if there was a way for Allen to become a Noah without being taken over by Neah, he would actually be rather pleased.
Agree. I don't think even Wisely knows about everything, but Road does. Heck, the Earl doesn't even remember he is Mana. Kinda. In a way. Uugh, my brain hurts everytime I try to understand it XDD
I think Sheryl just follow the instinct and also hates Neah on principle. He killed the family, he is a traitor, no more is needed. And Allen... Well, he is an Exorcist and his "daughter" likes him, so that is reason enough.
Yeah, I think the Earl would prefer if somehow Neah and Allen shared the body, so he could have both of them. (Yeah, because this wouldn't be creepy or weird AT ALL, Earl, you nutso).
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2019-03-16 13:45:15 +0000 UTC]
I hope so too. I mean I appreciate that they go more into quality than quantity, but maybe a bit more quantity, since now many are willing to watch several months for the next chapter...
Ahhhh yeah... That is kinda understandable, though I much say that I am still a bit curious as to what Road experienced, considering that she is the only one that has lived since the incident and still remembers it. I mean we did see how pissed she was when Tyki got severely hurt, so that must mean that she doesn't like her family getting hurt, yet she isn't really pissed at Neah for hurting killing her entire family, which leads me to two ideas.
1. She doesn't blame Neah for doing what he did, meaning there is a hidden reason to it all, which she knows
2. She doesn't get that pissed over her family getting hurt before her, but rather that Neah gets hurt. She cares for Neah and still cares for him to the extent that she portrays Neah unto Tyki, since Tyki looks like him. I believe in this idea the most, since she denied Tyki the right to cut his hair saying she likes it long, which was how Neah had his hair too.
I don't think only Tyki would like Allen to turn into a Noah without getting overtaken by Neah. As you mentioned the Earl would like to keep Allen as well, especially if he ever remembers that he is Mana. Not sure about Road, since I think a part of her only likes Allen, because she is part Neah. But hahaaha Yeah Sheryl wouldn't like either Allen and Neah to join them, he doesn't want to be with a traitor and he doesn't want to lose his daughter. He follows orders, but I bet he really just wants both of them dead.
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Nara-Wolf In reply to Chaoussu [2019-06-18 23:41:01 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that the quality improved is great, but several mangas also had an improvement of art (Fruits Basket for example) and did NOT have so many hiatus. I've read somewhere that Hoshino even lost interest in DGM, but I don't know if that is true or just a rumor.
I think every Noah hates seeing their family hurt (hypocrites, much?). As for Road, I'm with you. I agree with the first option, I think she knows things no one else does, which means she understands what happened far better than anyone. While she is pissed at Neah, she isn't angry enough to want him dead. Maybe she would want Neah and the Earl to merge and go back to being a "whole". I dunno, that part of them being one and the Earl being Mana still makes zero sense to me.
Oooh, boy, if the Earl ever remembers he is Mana and that Allen is his son (adopted, but it doesn't matter), I don't even want to imagine what may happen (kidding, I want to). Because even if he does, he will still be the Earl. He will just want Allen to join the family. Geez, Allen will give Luke Skywalker a run for his money with this... Road, well, I think she actually loves Allen for Allen, but she also likes Neah, so if they shared the body so she could have both, she would be quite pleased (yeah, because again, this wouldn't be weird at all).
No doubt about it. I think if the Earl remembers who he is and kidnaps Allen (we all know he would), Sheryl would kinda accept him a little more, since he is family too, but he would NOT be pleased.
Honestly, this family needs some fucking therapy.
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Chaoussu In reply to Nara-Wolf [2019-06-25 22:33:55 +0000 UTC]
I sure hope not. While I don't like the big breaks, I still excitedly read it several times
Definitely hypocrites. Hurt my family and I'll brutally kill you. Don't hurt my family and I'll just kill you... not really a choice pal. I don't think even Wisely knows. He does seem less pissed and angry than the rest, but you can see that he reacted on Tyki's appearance, so maybe he does have some sort of issue? Like he knew it was Joyd, so he didn't get pissed, but he still reacted and whispered to Road, as if there was some sort of issue, since he didn't want the others to hear him. Same it doesn't make sense, but hey Kanda and Allen have arrived to the house, so maybe we'll find out... I was about to say soon, but with the huge breaks between chapters I am not sure...
He already wants Allen to join the family, so I think there won't be the biggest change. If any then maybe contemplating on making Allen turn into Neah or keep Allen as Allen. I think that Road will have that to think about too. As you said if they could share body (in a better more proper way than right now), then I guess they would be happy. Except Allen and Neah that don't want to be a part of the family.
I don't know. I mean Sheryl does like his family (especially Road and Tyki), but he doesn't like Allen since Road likes him (... come to think about it, the people Sheryl likes, likes Allen, perhaps more than they like Sheryl) and while Neah is a Noah, I am guessing he dislikes Neah for the whole traitor thing. As you said this family seriously needs a therapist... and a shrink!
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mangaholic13 [2017-12-09 01:36:17 +0000 UTC]
... Honestly, part of me wonders who will be this series Final Boss: the Earl or God?
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Nara-Wolf In reply to mangaholic13 [2017-12-09 14:07:18 +0000 UTC]
I think it will be either the Earl or Apocryphos, to be honest (And I can't imagine even God is pleased with that creep)
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triangleheadxjames [2017-12-06 21:49:41 +0000 UTC]
LOL!
Hey, at least Kanda seems to agree with Neah's idea....
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Nara-Wolf In reply to triangleheadxjames [2017-12-06 22:44:00 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, he's like "his problem, not mine, don't care" XD
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