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If you stop yourself for a moment, and think deeply about reality, you can achieve a higher state of mind, in which you stop making up your own opinions and start searching for facts.I made this because I am not a person of strong opinions. except, maybe, my atheism, but thats a completely personal thing. Its like that with any opinion.
Reality doesn't care about human opinions.
Reality doesn't care about anything.
Opinions just exist in your head, facts exist in Reality.
One can doubt reality, but that wont make his or her opinion reality.
So why don't we all keep our opinions for ourselves, think about why there are people who have other opinions, and start talking about the consequences we have to take about actual facts.
I'm not even that perfect myself, but in my opinion (!) this is a good ideal.
Maybe I'll edit this later to sound less crude, but right now I don't have the time.
(What I mean is, people with strong opinions don't reflect on themselves, which is, in general, a pain in the ass to communicate with if they aren't your opinion)
(With "strong opinion" I mean a deep lack of understanding for how anyone can not have this opinion)
(I have some strong opinions, and I realize it. but I do in general reflect on them, and then I do choose them or not choose them, based of what I like more, which I understand that is forming a strong opinion)
(I realize that being upset about strong opinions is stupid, because that means to care about those opinions AT ALL intead of just facts)
(I realize that this stamp sports a strong opinion)
(also, on an unrelated note, making stamps is somewhat fun)
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Theories and are hypothesis educated guesses that passed for some little test. If it was a fact it wouldn't just be a theory now would it. Human opinions are good when a person has gone through experiences and they are giving you advice.Β
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You are misinterpreting the term "Theory". If a Theory was "just" a Hypothesis it wouldn't be a Theory - and really, not "just" a Theory at that: while a Hypothesis could arguably be called a mere "educated guess", a Theory is what becomes of a Hypothesis if that educated guess holds up to any number of tests without breaking down.
As long as you can't falsify a Theory, or find a new one with an even more negligible margin of error (and that is, an error margin that can be explained by mistakes in measurement rather than mistakes in the Theory itself), the theory - or at the very least its predictions - must actually be considered fact. If one does find a better Theory to describe (that is, predict) and/or explain a given phenomenon, that new one is from then on "the Theory". This is also what we call science. To say otherwise would be to take in question the existence of facts, and I do believe there is no need to elaborate on to why that would be contraproductive for essentially all humanly thinkable purposes.
Now, frankly, little do i care about what your opinion on the matter is. You are using a computer or smartphone or whatever device to browse, display and contribute to the content of this very website, and that is essentially made possible by this very principle.
Granted, human experience is a real occurence with real human applications. That serves, however, in no way to invalidate a Theory. Now if we are talking about humanities rather than natural sciences, due to subjectivity and limited spectrum of perspectives of individual experiences, would it not still be better to find a general Theory at a large? Especially considering that a Theory does neither try, nor have any need to, invalidate the value of experience on the individual level.
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All I hear is fap fap fap. look up the definition.Β
theΒ·oΒ·ryΒ nounΒ \ΛthΔ-Ι-rΔ,Β Λthir-Δ\
: an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events
: an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true
: the general principles or ideas that relate to a particular subject
Hmm see that it says in its definition idea, suggested, presented as possibly true, but that is not known or proven to be true.
The dictionary an elementary tool that will prove people use words without knowing the definition of them, and that they have been using it improperly for a long time.
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TheFreeDictionairy.com:
"1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena."
Oxforddictionairies.com:
"a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained."
You really cannot think without thinking something. That is why using the term "idea" to prove you would be right, in this case, is neither smart nor productive.
chemistry.about.com:
"Definition: In the context of science, a theory is a well-established explanation for scientific data. Theories typically cannot be proven, but they can become established if they are tested by several different scientific investigators. A theory can be disproven by a single contrary result."
this might seem like it goes against what i said. Actually it doesn't:
"... As long as you can't falsify a Theory ..." were my words. If you don't accept theories as fact-until-disproven, it is impossible to take actions:
merriam-webstter.com:
"a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action"
if you now think the term "belief" is any indicator for the contraty, all i can say is, yes, one does "belief" in facts, as that is basically the only thing you can do with the information that your senses send to your brain.
However, i find this line of thinking not very useful in duscussing these matters and in general.
www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html
"...When used in non-scientific context, the word βtheoryβ implies that something is unproven or speculative. As used in science, however, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena."
Dictionairy.reference.com:
"1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine."
and lastly, again, your own citation:
merriam-webster.com
"3:Β the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art "5:Β a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena π: 0 β©: 1
if you wish to insult my use of language, you could at least refrain from intellectual dishonesty. The definition you are using might be acceptable in a context of less than scientific conduct. However, i think it was clear from the beginning that your definition is not the use of the word "theory" i was talking about at all.
I don't know if you are trolling or trying to win an argument. Whichever you are trying to achieve, i already wastet too much time on this crap and i will not reply beyond this point, as i have no desire to discuss this matter for what feels to be the fiftieth time. Draw your own conclusions (you already did), and consider yourself invited to leave me be if you don't like mine*.
*note: i don't give a fuck if that constitutes an opinion. I made this stamp ages ago, it was supposed to be dickheaded, and i progressed from there.
Not real definition. Look in a real dictionary. Learn. Stop going to other sorces and thinking their all real. It just makes everyone laugh at you.
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correction "Reality nothing" ===> "Reality cares nothing"
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is this your opinion?
I must say your stamp is ironically funny yet interesting, I already read your comment yet I still wanna tell you my opinion
well, I don't think opinions are stupid.....but I think people who only stick to their own opinion and refuse to the others.........um...I think that the person is stupid, not opinions
we humans are kinda......young species, we are foolish, or ...............unknowing to the knowledge and wisdom, we cannot see the whole fact at one time, only part of it, that's how we have opinions~
in other words, opinions are pieces of puzzles that putting together we can keep ourselves closer to the fact~
I like you said that "Reality doesn't care about human opinions.Reality doesn't care about anything." it just I think you forgot to mention that Reality doesn't care about anything, we humans are still part of the Reality, and we never stop making opinions. So although Reality nothing yet our opinions still might effect the Reality, or at least, us, the humans
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I won't argue about this anymore. only wanna remind you the stamp is supposed to be provocating, exaggerating.
Except the reality thing. I consider, for the purpose of this stamp, thoughts and especially opinions to be not reality.
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hehehe I see
but I'm not here to make argument, just making a comment~
(you don't have to accept my opinion at all, afterall it will be too boring~~~
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Actually, you may very well tell me your opinion, as long as it doesn't blatantly defy logic. And as long as you realize that it's an opinion and therfore not inherently factual.
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LOL why thank you
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hahaha this is dumb as hell, look how wrong you are
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I think one of the problems with expressing opinions, besides conflicting worldviews, is that people don't take the necessary tact to express them without sounding rude. To me opinions are to ideal as facts are to truth. They are both vital things apart of human nature.
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Do i assume right in that you came over from the MSPA forums?
Well thanks for the fav, i guess. I'm hating this stamp more and more. thats why you shouldn't make things when you are upset.
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Realizing that is the beginning of greater wisdom I think. 
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Uh, this stamp made me wanna type some feelings. I always write kinda jumbled, so I appologise. But I hope you find my comment interesting.
Isn't the world complicated? Everyone has their own opinion, their own view. Reality is what we make of it. It's hard and useless to try to change such true facts. But I do agree, making up your own answers and not looking into some kinda of fact is in fact "stupid". Stupid is knowing your wrong and doing the opossite. Ignorance is not having been introduced to the idea, if you know what i mean.
For some reason I feel like saying this to an anthiest..so don't mind me: I'm not religious, but I am open minded. It seems most athiests, since I grew around them, are quite..closed minded. Not to mention, they have a hard time expressing themselves...after all, they try to stay in one place and forget to try to have fun. ( Though, most of the athiests I knew did manage to be happy, but they always avoided some truths...even if they try their best to counter them. It's impossible to change someones opinion if they don't want to, of course, which is where love and tolerance works it's magic.)
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If you want to put it that way yes, I'm an atheist. a big one. the longer I think about religion, the more nebulous and obscure it seems to me. I don't understand Religion. To me, it's plain nuts. (Opinion! Because I don't get it!)
Though I do not actually like the term "atheist". It's the negation of "theist", thus dependant on it, instead of being an independent thing.
... come to think of it, I think I would prefere to be an empirist.
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Almost everything in your description is an opinion.
Before you get the flamethrower out, you should know I agree, it is better to make choices based on facts than opinions.
In a perfect world, ones opinion would be the culmination of ones thoughts and decisions based on solid facts.
This is not a perfect world, and humans are painfully imperfect, and thus you get strongly worded, poorly grounded opinions spewed out by masses of ignorant people.
Having an opinion is a side effect of being a sentient organic creature and is hardly a bad thing. It is people who trumpet their opinion as though it is some gods word without actually doing any research that give the concept of an opinion a bad name.
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okay, no one can be perfectly neutral, but I think we should at least aspire to be.
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You are saying what I am thinking with one sentence.
Thank you.
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If only one sentence were all it took to reason with people. :ΒP
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Socrates had that little cool thing called Synthesis, I believe.
So the equation would be: Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis.
True, facts are facts, but the processing of our vision over them can only happen after:
1 - Our senses had conceived its presence (whether in memory or locally)
2 - Our subjectivity (the compilation of all our memories and assossiations which is an intricate web of synapsis in our brain)
3 - Language, hence abstraction. Abstraction, hence -the vulgar term- opinion.
Without the debate between two different opinions you get nothing out of abstract and metaphysical theories. Of course there are asses out there who can't mae such encounter productive, but I see different opinions as pieces of a same puzzle, and if confronted in the right angle and environment they can produce a whole piece, which doesn't comprehend their existance as separate elements but as a whole.
Have you ever wondered about the similarity between the the words "opinion" and "option"? Would you say that options are stupid? Yet they also enclose you to one partial choice, but hey, you have made a choice: you are experiencing a point of view instead of none.
The state of mind you have mentioned, shredding mysticism aside, is basically what science is: Empirism. But there are many facts our science technology still can't grasp, and until we can make our way to them, we need to debate the next steps, and this requires opinion. Have you ever seen how broken and chaotic the different areas of Psychology look when you try to mash them up in one single term? Yes, Psychology, an alful oversimplification when in this budle you wanna stick Psychoanalysis along with Behaviorism along with Somatic Psychology, Psychodrama, Gestalt and so many others. All of them treat the same phenomena, the human mind, in different ways, creating both the capacity to act and the limitation of how far they can go.
Opinions land you the capacity to debate and to envolve in dialog, but will delineate a template you will have to fit your thoughts in if you want any consistency. Not only, opinions are not taboo, and you are free to mutate them as you go: there is no shame in it if such changes are well based.
Many important faculties of civilization still rely wholefully on opinion: Politics, Law, Economy, Market, Diplomacy. It is your right to think opinions are stupid, though this will be an opinion already, and a very counterproductive one, in my own opinion.
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It would be counterproductive if it were actually possible to not hold opinions.
But it's not actually possible to never hold and opinion, so the end result of the message of the stamp is someone who thinks more neutrally, and hence more critically. The wisdom here, when followed, leads to better decisions, not worse ones.
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"Opinions are stupid" is not neutrality of mind;
"stupid"
1.
lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2.
characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3.
tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4.
annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5.
in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.
I strongly doubt the fact of a point of view being partial makes it "tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless", for example.
Even though, I agree with the final message.
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The phrase "opinions are stupid" is just an, hm, let me call it artistic exaggeration of what I actually think.
I made this after I stumbled upon the Razortongued Group that I also submitted it to, so the stamp itself is meant be a bit less objective, more offensive.
The opinion I try to form about opinions in general is not.
To understand (or at least read, because it get's somewhat incomprehensible) my train of thought, you may want to read my most recent journal in which I try to write my dubts away. (read here: [link] )
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awful*
bundle*
existence*
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Oh. Ok.
(I'm german, for the matter. Our language is designed so we grow up to be grammar nazis. 
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(Germany is a place where I'd totally go 
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I mean, I do know that this is just an opinion, and I do know that at that point of reflection facts don't matter anymore because at this level it's only opinions left, so that it cancels itself out.
I realize that.
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Woah, I just added regards to that one moment before I read your comment, so, uh, well. My best guess is your get the idea.
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