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Nenilein — U.O.E. Intro+CH0: Sketches
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Published: 2019-02-25 22:09:46 +0000 UTC; Views: 469; Favourites: 9; Downloads: 1
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While I am far from unhappy with my finished work, I find that sketches and rough drafts are really cool in their own right, so I decided to collect the sketches for all pages of "UnReLaTed Overflow Error" that I've posted so far in a PDF and upload them here as well. The sketches show quite a few things I've scrapped, such as drawing Flowey with rounded petals early on and some messing around with Frisk's and Kris' designs, as well as showing stuff I altered or added while finishing the pages (some of which was done by suggested and/or with help of friends). Feel free to go through and compare the sketches to the finished pages in my gallery as you please~! I'd be glad to answer any questions you may have about why I decided to finish certain sketches a certain way. Might be a learning experience for me too.I usually draw my sketches on the back of print-outs from work or university in order to save paper, so you might notice some graphs and words shining through. Feel free to try and read, but they're not hidden messages or anything. Just scientific papers on japanese population growth and stuff.
These are just the sketches, mostly without dialogue. The actual, finished comic chapter can be found here: www.deviantart.com/nenilein/ga…
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Looks like some pretty interesting things are going to happen soon enough. And I agree that sketches are pretty helpful in getting us some good practice with our drawing skills in general and they’re pretty cool~
By the way I like your new design for Kris.
Hmmm questions, how did ya come the conclusion that someone else had taken Kris’s body? And what made you make changes to his design? ^^
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Thanks for commenting! It makes me super happy to read that you're enjoying this~!
As for your questions:
We hear a lot about Kris from the townsfolk during the epilogue, and though they're made out to be mischievous and a bit of a douche, the person we hear about is nothing like that creepy, slasher-smiling ax-murderer we suddenly see in the end. You can't reconcile that with their friendship with Noelle, their obvious deep love for Asriel, or the way the townsfolk seem reasonably fond of Kris, in spite of their more douchy tendencies.
When you think about Frisk's situation in Undertale, even though we possessed Frisk's Soul, it was STILL their Soul, and by the end we let go of that Soul and Frisk goes on living as themself. I do think we're controlling Kris' Soul in much the same way, but it's still theirs, and whatever takes over the body is not them. Remember, a human body cannot hold two human Souls.
I think we dragged in an Interloper when we started the game. I'm not sure if it's Chara or something else, but that's not the real Kris, just like we're not the real Kris.
As for the second question: I really hated the way I drew Kris' hair early on, especially after I'd settled into how to draw Frisk's hair. While I wanted Kris to look less cute and groomed than Frisk with more of a bedhead, I do find it important that the humans are all reasonably pretty (and the way Kris' hair moves in their battle sprites is quite beautiful in its own right), so I decided to go for an a bit "smoother" look down the line.
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Heya, sorry for late responses, but yeah I am really enjoying Under Overloaded Error a lot. ^^ Really loving the storyline. It's pretty great. And of course the characters too. ^^
I totally agree with you in the fact that we control Frisk during pretty much the geno route because the reality is, we drive them to kill everyone and thanks to us in completing geno, we get punished in the in the end for it. I know a lot of people blame Chara being evil, but that's only because those people didn't want to accept what they did. But for those like us who faced the truth in what we did, I think Chara would forgive us if she knew how sorry we were for it. After all she, much like Frisk has a compassionate heart, even if she's more less forgiving than her to an extent.
And we do control Kris as well. We save over their file as in the beginning of the game Kris had their own file. Yep of course a human can't hold two souls as God created each of us with only one xD
Good point on that and the same could be said for Frisk. I don't believe it is Chara, as they've been dead for a long time. Like someone else stated before me, perhaps what had happened to the real Chara is that her soul moved on to the afterlife much like Asriel's. But a shadow of them, some kind of essence was left behind for whatever reason, and perhaps this shadow form of themselves have retained the memories of someone who once was alive but is no longer there.
I believe that whatever path we pick, just like how we teach Flowey Mercy, we also teach Chara to Mercy as well in the good routes, but in the evil path they think that power and killing everyone is the way to go because that is what she's taught. She looks to us for guidance, it's why she's with us the whole way and she makes the journey fun with her narrations. ^^
Awww and I see ^^ That's good. Again I'll be looking forward to your next pages c:
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Yep, while I do believe the narration in all of Undertale is Chara, I don't think it's their Soul, as we never see a second red Soul at any point in the game, even during genocide. What I believe is that Chara's memories have somehow latched onto a force that represents the player's control over the game itself, and created the "demon" which is only really a demon when you give it a reason to be. That demon may call itself "Chara", but, much like Flowey, is probably only a shadow of what that person used to be, mixed with something else entirely.
The Japanese version of Deltarune has evidence that the "interloper" taking over Kris is the "Chara" we met in the end of Undertale: During the creation sequence, during the last two lines, the speech mannerisms, which were previously clearly Gaster's, suddenly switch to someone else's, and in the Japanese version, they're clearly "Chara"'s speech mannerisms from the end of Undertale. (I speak Japanese, so I can confirm as much). Toby Fox was closely involved with translating Deltarune, so that's definitely not a coincidence.
Speaking clear text, my own, current theory is that what's taking control of Kris in the end of Chapter 1 is the "demon" from the end of Genocide Undertale, but I wouldn't necessarily call that thing "Chara". I think it's the embodiment of the perversion that is the player's godlike control over the game, nothing more, nothing less. The embodiment of the gameplay itself. The game has decided to try and evict us from our player character and basically play itself. At least, that's what I think is happening right now.
Either way, regardless of whether or not you agree with that interpretation, it's not that important for enjoying the comic, thankfully. Aside from using "CHARA" as the name that overwrote Kris' save-file (which a lot of people definitely did anyway), the story I'm writing is compatible with a lot of different interpretations of the ending of Chapter 1. So there shouldn't be any issues.
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Well I think it's quite logical in what you just said, given you know Japanese. I'd have no way to tell if playing the game in jap unless I used google translate which would take forever. Soo I believe you that it most likely is the "demon" from the past geno route we played in Undertale.
So this embodiment is a kind of AI or something? Or some other 'force' perhaps? Like the same one the shadow of former Chara got taken into. You're probs right though, I do agree with you.
We all have our interpretations of what Chara is like after all, and I aim to show that in my Alternate Undertale Universe comic too. It's called EraseTale. I haven't exactly done anything, but for me, Chara is the hero and Frisk is the ghost this time. Also kinda a villain, but they're going to be under the control of someone else.
Hehe, of course. And likewise I'll continue to enjoy your comic. ^^
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