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NikitaTarsov In reply to SpadeRiff [2014-03-06 17:05:59 +0000 UTC]

Thanx^^
Against heavy weapon, for sure, but these are a rarely sight in the cave and caverne enviroment of Garafim. And against explosives, the shape has some benefits. But for bigger caves, like city sights or something, the walker for sure must modify its movment. So in attack walk, the front legs would stand much more in line with the vehicles body and guard the body with its inclined leg-armor. This way it can, even its not designed to exactly do this, make a good mobile cover for infantery. The joints beside this are a relativly solid design, so it can take a lot of low- or middle-caliber fire without bigger scratches. 

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NikitaTarsov In reply to Enigmaticmuffin [2014-01-22 15:33:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes i know, but it´s an analogy, an technological abstraction. And "insectoid" doesn´t really fit´s to the shape and motion. 

If i would be pedantic, i would say that the weapon bay(concelealed by the head in the main picture through the head) and the below attached cannon are "limbs" too

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NikitaTarsov In reply to Andecaya [2013-12-28 23:24:55 +0000 UTC]

dada^^

Dankefön ansonsten

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-07-08 16:56:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanx a lot

No, never heared of till now - but a few pictures are maybe known form my younger days^^
For the design of my tank i had no idea at first, it cames with the work. Only idea i wanted to build into something was the magnetic suspension wheel(on this design also used for the links of the legs) - a friend and i had the idea 9 years ago. Then Audi told this to the movie makers of I Robot after a request for a futuristic car concept.
Yeah, i think my tank can also get lower to the ground. This would result in such a leg position like a spider, but i think this will be something like resting position. Minimal stress for the leg material and minimal space it needs to be stored.

Hehe - yes, Japan loves to use this designs. Think this is most of the strong imagery in storys the culture prefers, and the german tanks of this time have a strong pathos - beneth solid steel. AND, they have a love for the dieselpunk styles of the first world war, don´t know why.....

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-07-09 02:34:57 +0000 UTC]

ah, Magnetic Levitation technology was in its infancy back when Dougram was made, so it didn't feature maglev on its legs. Dougram had a finite end with no sequel, unlike the Gundam franchise that keeps cranking out new stories. the closest thing to a sequel it had was Armored Trooper Votoms, same studio but different storyline with much smaller mechs only about 3m tall (cockpit takes up most of the torso). these ATs had a motorized wheel in the bottom of their feet, which make them move very quickly on pavement with a nice turbo-like whine (like a dentist drill sound)

yeah, Japan is very fond of 2.WK Germany, probably because they gained a lot of knowledge from them, like jet aircraft, Lenkrakete, medical science, etc. they also don't understand the darker nature of Nazism, so they like the uniforms, swastikas and such to embarrassing levels it goes back to the mid-1800s, when Germans taught them modern medicine (I talked with Andecaya about this...many medical terms in Japan are in German) and gave them the first guns (I'm watching a period drama on NHK TV where they are obsolete flintlock muskets called Gewehrs, probably an early Mauser?). while they fought against Kaiserliche Germany in 1.WK, they got a raw deal from the Allies who encouraged their help in taking out German colonies in the Asia-Pacific theater, then when the war ended, they didn't want Japan to keep these colonies for themselves, but to return them to the natives. really. thousands of Japanese die to conquer these outposts, and the Allies want them to just return them, when the Allies themselves maintained colonies all over Asia-Pacific? is it any wonder that Japan became allied with Nazi Germany, and unlike Italy, remained a loyal ally up to the very end? thus unlike most all other nations on Earth, Japan has good feelings about 2.WK Germany, so it is not unexpected that German Panzer designs pop up in anime (like the PzKpfw III in Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood)

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-07-09 19:55:55 +0000 UTC]

Hah - found the reason why some designes looks known to me. The Game Battletech stole a lot of designs from Animes, always wondered who stole from the other on the Macross stroys
Now Wikipedia told me.

The japan guys love mechs for its tech^^

Yes that´s some reasons. Beneth this there are a few other, not so logical, things. Germany, America and England had a ebassy in China, Beijing, after the loos of the opium wars. The Japan invade a ranged part of China where a german military outpost was placed. And a relatly small outpost strikes back the whole invasion army, these impress the Japan as well as the Chinese alot. The Japan, based on a warrior cast what first unite the land and so characterize the society, are proud and see a respectable enemy. This respect never fall off.
A famos quote of a Chinese these days was "The Japan are wolfes, but the Germans are tigers" - what was fascinating, cause the Chinese was oppressed and disempowered form the Germans, not the situation you found such words(in your and mine cultur backround).
It´s hard to say but, Americans had a much more players behavior than the German, so they insult the Japan by every situation(without the intention to). The Japan had first asked the Americans for modern weapons, but this failed epicly through this cultural differences.
So Germans got the reputation as best representatives of the remaining world(in the sight of Japan).
Then anoter aspect is that the Japan loves tech in a very special way. Perfection in all its ways have a religious part, and this goes such far that in mythologie every unliving thing has a soul, or better a spirit called Kami(you shurly know if you interest in Anime). A masterworked sword for example has to be respected as the mighty, death bringing Kami it is. Carry it with cutting edge downside insult the Kami and will let it fail in combat.
The germans also had a love for tech and function, even much more pragmatic. This was a kind of equal language between the cultures. And our military nobels are a good equal to its own Samurai caste(even also absolutly different in founding and meaning). The pathos of smart tactics and win-or-die ideology are also a winning point for the Germans. So a strong friendship was established(even if both sides surley had not the slidest idea how this could work XD).
Narzism is a tricky thing.....every single culture gots it, as older, as more tradition as "the same" culture it has the stronger is the feeling that everyone else are less worth, or at last wierd. Yes, the Japan had a, from our point of view, strong narzistic ideology. The hard and most time very cruel wars of the uniting of the land has forged a militaristic pathos. Beiing part of something bigger, making a honorfull life. But i always thought that the short form Nazi was a little confusing - narzism means just loving itself more than normal - but Natsoc´s maybe sound not so good..., another point could be that "national socialisms" is a fitting word for all involved nations during 2.WW XD
But to be honest, i´m more in the society backround than on political or history, i always take the parts i need and not really sort the rest
So i´m not sure about the timeline of all the events.
But i can say, for the normal Japan guy at the 2.WW it was unthinkable that the Kaiser could be wrong in any desicion(cause he is elected from heaven, the gods and the Kamis), and he(how unique in history-.-) was forced from his high militarys to go in this war. These guys were blindet by its new strength the modern weapons has brought them and the fact they feel outclassed from a now much bigger world.
Much more then felt, the Japan has lost enourmous ego and culture with the loos of the war. All what the people had believed in was shattered, it was maybe comparable with a America this time, if all christian believer got the proof that there faith is a pointless joke.
All of the traditions today was restored but never brought on that level, its now more a relict today what was keept with great love. This old ideal was seen everywhere in Japan today, most in new patterns. The big concern succsess of the ´80 and ´90 was build on a social understatement of the medevil times. You live for your concern and increase its power and honor.
Think this designs was a reminiscence to lost times and its charm.

Wow....that, all in all, sound a little depressive ah?.....sorry....

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-07-10 08:56:05 +0000 UTC]

oh not at all! it's obvious you have studied the ethos of both Germany and Japan a lot, and I am impressed!

in FASA's old BattleTech map-game, Dougram is one of the mechs they borrowed, called Shadowhawk or something. it was one of the first mechs with Jump Jets, had a backpack mounted Big Gun, and was blue and silver in color. that game borrowed mechs from at least three animes including Dougram and Macross

I agree about the respect of perfection that both Germans and Japanese have. it's too bad that in the past, there was little of Japanese quality that was readily useful to Germany, because katanas were obsolescent in the age of guns, and the best rice doesn't trump a good Kartoffel or Gebäck sure there were pearls and silk, but it was only recently with the advent of affordable high quality electronic things that Japan finally produced something (other than anime, sushi and supertankers) that the Germans could use in quantity

what little I know of early 20th century in the Pacific, before 1.WK, the English, Americans, French, and I believe the Dutch didn't want Japan to be more powerful. these countries already had colonies, and didn't need an upstart Japan to become competition. Germany seemed to suffer similar "elbowing", being a latecomer to empire-building, in Africa and Asia-Pacific. Japan's misfortune was being very late to the game, and thus they met resistance at every turn

I believe both the Germans and Japanese also respect hierarchy, the order of authority, in similar ways. when the elders make poor decisions, though, not questioning authority has gotten people into trouble. as both countries transitioned to democracy, it has made it easier to keep an eye on the politicians (the Japanese may take things too far, changing prime ministers like one changes underwear) to minimize blind faith. their peaceful pursuits after the war has made both countries a lot more popular around the world than with the force of arms

sometimes hanging onto old ideas like Yamato-damashii or Bushido just gets you labeled as a barbarian as times change. it's easy for the rose-colored lenses of ignorance to make the past seem better than it was. people of many countries have put on those glasses, and it rarely turns out for the better. still, like my avid interest in the Byzantine/Eastern Roman empire, nostalgia can be like candy

sorry for my long digressions in the comments for your Arachnoid Tank, but I thoroughly enjoy talking with you!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-07-13 04:05:09 +0000 UTC]

Hehe^^ It´s fun to exchange such thoughts. Never really decidet to interest in human/societys behavior but....
Just "a lot" could be a too strong word XD

These guys wasn´t very cautious by collecting ideas. Even Lucas Films Ltd. has sued them for used word creations....omfg....
Sounds like the Mad Cat, but i don´t really know. The Cat was stolen by Macross
- this i know(and was still used).
Never found a connection to the game, but as option i had startet Warhammer 40K
Ok....it also could be a reson that i grow up in a games store of roleplays, tabletops, cardgames and such stuff^^

True, but we was two real small lands with not a good idea who the other really is. And without the globalisation such processes are much slower. Its so sad that Japan has more and more lost its special quality tradition to become a worldwide industrial player. The high suicide rate, and some extrem wierd parts of livestile not so less Japans did follow are a result of that pressure in combination with traditions who fall off from ther normal lifes. Sacrifice are wanted from the corperations, but they didn´t give this back to the people. It´s a one way tradition, and this burn out the people.
Hey - if you have to eat potatos all the time of your life, you would do alot for rice XD
Its a shame that Germany ignores the Japan today so much, even if the Japan show ther respect until the present day. But our politicans make good friends with(for example) the Chinese, who have gave up every remembering of its history. I don´t think this honor codex hasn´t a place even in todays society, maybe this would cure some problems in the world what was direct results of the loos of any feeling for honor.
Unfortunally war is the most realistic thing what would happend......

As sayed, i had a lot of lacks about precisely dated and assigned history. In school we didn´t learn much about history. I came from Hessen(i know you know^^), what is(all in all) the county of low education and earnings. So we learn the most time that the Germans are the bad guys in 2.WW. Thats enough for people who are risk groups to become neonazis(cause of no hope for the future)....
Ok, these are maybe a little hard words, but more than one time i got this feeling at school.

Hmmm, both are going a long, and different, way to this point. And both are not so easy to told "servants of the magistrate". In Germany around 1800 everyone has a voice, and as far as the person is from noble or rich as more silent is was(like todays democracy). The Germans has always fought, often against themselfes what absolutly goes into blood since we run around with a boar head on the head. That leeds to a strict hierarchy, what was hard proved from all people. So obedience was ever a strict rule in fix groups, family bounds, military, nobles.....but between this we ever fought and tried to get higher in the social world. The second world war was not the result of obidience in any way rather than of the opposit. Hitler had used the waves from the crash `20 and the political disunity of the normal people for its raising. Without a bunch of different fighting political partys and poor hungry pople on the streets nobody has cared for a freak who names a random reason for all bad in the world.
A funny thing is that Hitler was a democrat more than Hindenburg, who had ever started such a war. But with populism you can do everything with people, even today.
So to say - whatever huge numbers of people do, it leads to trouble. People don´t want to learn or see things coming.
About Japan i can unfortally not say so much, cause here i lack a little in timeline. But also these guys have made a bloody path to a united land. And with the religious way of perfection in mind its hard to do something half. So you have to reign with great power to not let space for rebellion. They liked this clear sorting in castes(like the Indians till now). So i think its not a disvantage to have such a way of live, but like all things it can lead to trouble. Japan was at the abyss, the world made pressure to open up the land and weaken the Kaiser, Japan had no way to resist the financial and cultural pressure, as well as it can´t give up the Kaiser with its absolute power. Both would have(one has) lead to a breakdown. And the militarys had made the desicion to fight a war who can´t be won to make at last a japanic way of win, even nobody survives. And at this point the discussion can start if a death in best beliving at a higher goal isen more or less good than a life in shame and without hope. And the Americans, beneth some others, had not the slidest interest in taking this pressure away to give Japan a better way out of this situation. Money had ruled, and in the eye of the breadwinner, i swear you, is every horrobile war better than a Japan like it was 30-40 years after the war.
Yeah...the politicans....what you await from a culture who had not really an idea of this concept called democracy(to be honest, if i´m watching TV, i´m also not really sure...).
Yepp, popular is a perfect word for it. Freakingly damn much people in the world-wide-web think that Nazi-Germany was cool, so Germany is cool. But thats the problem...one problem....Nazis are dangerous, all world knows. But facism is ok, or not noticed.

I would say nearly all people at the world wear this glasses, and not only by watching the past. Unfortunally this remains the not-glassed people silent screaming and warning from the next comming iceberg. So i lost my hope that ther will not be another big war or something equal devasting.
Nostalgia wasen´t my little warm cave, but the gift to live in a time where we can watch back to so many different cultures and times is a wonderfull thing, i think. Even if payed with the knowledge that the failures of the past now just have better names and PR managers.
Yeah - like candy for sure. Sweet if tasted with calm, but makes a dirty pain if chewed XD

Oh no problem, who ever scrolled so long, has earned it.
And its MY artwork, we can WRITE as LONG as we want
Dito, its interestng yes, i like such discussions a lot

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-07-13 08:38:22 +0000 UTC]

I think I played Battle Tech once or twice, even though I was very fond of mechs in high school. the feel of the game was more like a wargame, with long turns as each mech fired and moved...it didn't feel right, mech battles tend to be fast, and Battle Tech was anything but fast I played the PC simulation game of Battle Tech, but it is old and under-engineered, it wasn't very fun to me...

I practically lived at hobby stores myself...mostly Plastik-Modelle and ROCO MiniTanks as a kid, then RPGs like D&D, Traveller, Twilight:2000, Gamma World, Champions etc. in high school. I started my current collection of metal MicroArmor (1/285-1/300) and 1/350 plastic warships in the 1990s, but since the mid-1990s, most of my time I spend on Steel Panthers series of computer wargames and MS Excel spreadsheets for US-Militär Gliederung und Ausrüstung (TOE) studies

as far as I understand it, Japan is dealing with more than Westernization...the combination of the stagnant economy since 1990s Bubble Economy and the empowerment of women has led to higher divorce rates and negative population growth as younger people aren't getting married as much, and those that do marry don't have as many children as they used to have. combined with increasing aged population, they are facing a crisis to continue taking care of older people. while they try to maintain their traditional music and arts, farmers have to turn more and more to machines as many children refuse to stay on the farm and go to cities to live. still, one bad tradition I wouldn't miss is arranged marriages...the whole concept was so male dominated, and I find the idea of marrying someone I barely know repulsive. I think that the shrinking population is a temporary thing, a "correction" of overpopulation caused by post-war growth mentality, and will reach Gleichgewicht soon

ach, everybody is talking to the Chinese, even the Japanese! but slowing economy has hit even China, which is not a bad thing...if they kept going at the phenomenal growth they had in the last 20 years, with what is it, 1300+ million people, they would have dominated the world economy more than they already do...a communist country with that much power is worrisome, from both a political and ecological perspective

yes, I agree, populism is quite capable of terrible things, and when combined with a strong adherence to hierarchy or with a like-minded majority, dissent can be suppressed. getting to the root of wars, it is easier to hate when one dehumanizes someone, thus even in a democracy, if the majority comes to hate another peoples, war can pass muster readily. the problem at hand is a matter of education, to know history so as not to keep repeating the same mistakes, perpetuating suffering. this knowledge must become universal, as it is worthless if only some people are tolerant of diversity and averse to war, while others (often in the same country) continue to hang onto obsolete concepts of superiority and "might makes right". democracy is just one facet to enlightenment, and while certainly better than autocracy, an under-enlightened population is still susceptible to propaganda and hate-mongering, which can lead to war by popular vote

equally important to democracy and education is fiscal well-being, that is, wealth is not polarized and focused in a small minority while the majority go hungry. I had an interesting discussion with a deviant about love being the cause of war, and it was getting to be as big a discussion as you and I have here, but that deviant ended up suspended, so I'm afraid that argument is lost my premise was, when you have children you love, you will do anything to protect them and take care of them. when someone threatens their well being, by attacking them, or starving them, or denying them medicine for curable diseases, the parental instinct of protection can override self-preservation, resulting in self-sacrifice and war. thus, democracy and education must be tied to having enough of what you need, whether it be food and water, clothing and shelter, jobs and money, or hope and peace of mind. when those three facets are satisfied, the argument for hate and war loses the legs it stands on, and advocates for violence would get ostracized and dismissed. but as long as people feel disenfranchised, are ignorant, or suffer from want, there will always be opportunity for crafty powermongers to sway the populace into hurting their scapegoats, if only for a momentary reprieve from their misery

as far as the Naziphiles, they have a fundamental misunderstanding: Germany is not cool because of the Nazis, Germany is cool despite the Nazis at the same time, while I don't condone what the Nazis did to its victims, Germany needed something in those dark post-1.WK years. the Weimar Republic was a joke, giving away its sovereignty to vengeful Allies who occupied its territory and forced it to pay massive reparations. what did that solve? not a damn thing, for it set the groundwork for the NSDAP to be democratically elected to replace the ineffective Weimar Republic, take back its sovereignty, and filled them with the resolve for vengeance of their own against the oppressors. it's a lot easier to hate when A. the people feel hopeless and suffer, B. an under-enlightened majority can be misled into blaming a scapegoat, and C. a foreign power controls your destiny. it is amazing that the two countries, France and Britain, who so espoused Roman ideals would miss the very reasons for the founding of the Roman Republic and overthrow of the Etruscan kings. but I'm sure I'm digressing again

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-07-22 21:52:54 +0000 UTC]

Hah, yes true, this i also mentioned. As i was younger and playing 40K i was such geek with extrem less calm. I played like a speed chees monkey, i even figure out the other players difficultys for the next role some times....

I´m sometimes a little obsesive in complex things like that.

The Battletech-people are most a little special, so i never found a good connection to them, two years ago i read a BT-book, more of happenstance, and really like this reallity. Wasn´t as clean as StarTrek or similar stuff, more like StarWars with more realistic parts, more dirta and over aged vehicles.

Haha, so much i know, if you were some years younger we had a big chance to meet each other(there are justa  few kilometers from hanau to Erlensee and its Fliegerhorst)^^ I know roleplay was also not unpopular to the Americans at Fliegerhorst, as a child i distribute promotion for our games store there. Was damn funny – as childs nobody realises us, we was first stoped deep in a security zone XD

From a nice girl officer^^

Survived also a lot of my childhood in a rpg/tabltop/LARP-social club......that was freaky times.....

My first live role play kill was another player – with 7 years.....what else should i become

Japan yes....sure there are more problems, but i would estimate this more than such, i think, consequences of it. I´m not the fan of collusive marriage and such, but the culture runs fine with it like many others - so i don´t think i have to judge about. Japan traditions are hard to both genders.

The war also did it´s part in debalancing the people, but i think this would balance at it´s own, maybe through imigration of cheaper workers from China - just an example. germany had gain a rush from Turkish people after the war, one reason why this culture is so strong involved into ours(ok, on a very special way - but that´s another thematic).

The actual narrowness of the big citys, the less space for living, strict behavior rituals and the need for output makes hard pressure for the single individual. Male and female. And the modern art gives the worst overcompensation a face, the absolute unsettled kids try to imitate. What you think about learning sexual behavior if watching Anime? It must not even be Hentai to get a devasting idea of what these kids have to deal with. 

And the old game of - he think he must act like this and she think she must stand it - goes on. Some kind of self-flagellation and social acceptance....

I agree that this population thing isen´t even in range to the worst problems of Japan.

China is interesting i think. It was fallen into a everything-goes situation and did what everyone would have done. The criminals get political job discribtions and earn money while the little landlords manage the rural areas. And the economy grows from the point 0 on, what is a enourmous groth....on the paper.....

Unthinkable how stupid such business man must be to find this interesting o.O

But the normal evolution has also hit China, who never see this comming. Groth stops(waht is absolutly normal and unpreventable - you can´t produce 7% more each year forever) and money from this source was shown as fictional(like America and Europa has seen the last two years, or maybe a little more). Then the criminals must fight about the last coins and will getting into strife. Beside this, no big country is managable so easy. Ther are a few tricks to keep the people entertained, at last enough to not burn down politicans or call out revolution and indipendence. At first, the most loved trick is - war. Call one little ethnic group the badass and the rest is united. America choose the Arabians and we have choosen the Jews. Tibet and Mianmar had to serve this position till now, but even the Chinese people will see that ther mostly Chiese people living. So a real war is needet. What a luck that China has armed his troops with new modern stuff the last years. Don´t know who will be the badass, but the conflict about a few little islands with Japan was a test, how the Japans will react. Russia wouldn´t be stupid enough to get lured, but maybe America is outraged enough to start another proxy war. Between 5 and 10 years i think. 

Must be wonderfull liberating to kick all traditions and reamins of a high culture.....

Education is a problem in itself. Cause it must brought to the peole in as much tongues as you have listeners, and if you equalize the message you got a meaningless mesh of misunderstanding and wrong interpretations. A example, i told you about my schools, i hear again and again that the germans are the bad guys and have to shame. Then you listen to historical documentations and see that this is a little easy spoken. In addition you don´t want to be a bad guy also just of a goverment not even your dad have seen with own eyes. And at alst - and this is a point only for more inteligent people - you see that other states, the good guys of the past, do the same things like the Nazis with broad agreement of all nations, goverments and people. 

This was for some of my class mates a way into the assumption that being a Nazi is a way of defending against this injustice.....o.O

As i have told, Nazis are evil/facists are cool - a great man who can explain this to me........

First all people at the world must rise its IQ about 20-30 points, than i see a way out of repeating the mistakes of the past, or standinf voiceless at the side of the things happend. 

Also democracy is a carved out lair fir criminals. Tell me when a politican have managed something you has elected him for. Or when was apolitican elected for what he has said rather than for how muchelection partys he has celebrated. 

American election has something like a circus with clowns, chicks, elephants and donkeys. We have not even this.....So again and again our politican repeat empty phrases of something we all know they wouldn´t do, just even can´t do if they would have the will. 

And to be honest, i´m happy to have better weapon controls, cause if stupid people, easily gained by by the next hatefull voice who declare someone as the reason for all misery at the world, can buy weapon, of absolutly no substantiation reason why on the half/not controled market, can go anywhere and kill someone, i don´t feel very save. And much more if i ordinary say things against the herds feeling. 

I search for a answear a long time what for creatures must hunt in America that a hunter can have juse of a M82A1? 

Yeah, everything starts somewhere. I agree that i understand every Al Qaida guy who ohas choose this way to get revenge for a killed child. But there this education thing starts again. Who is guilty? Are you killing Afghan children trhoug let you politican do criminal acts? Did the father wrong by not recognising what his neighbours plants were sold for? 

Iraq war. Reason was a dictator, buid up by America. Al Quaida. Reason was a forged resistance of mercenarys America build up to kick the Russians out of Afghanistan. Try to explain this to a regular American who have lost someone at 9/11.

You can´t force teh people to think about what they do, maybe in a circle of frinds, most of the time - but not for a country, a land or, like it is needet for the example above, the whole world. Now all teh world have internet to know what exactly is the truth........i´m just to sad to laugh on this point.....

I´m always in the tricky situation to have no solution. Even i do nothing, it would be ignoring the evil guys next to me.

The Nazis, in optical style and in behavior was very popular, what wonderfull shows the teachability of humans. Many of Turkish people in Germany think they are cool and agree with ther "foreigners are dirt" idea. They also think so. Not too less Turkish people at my school thought killing a ethnic group is ok, even today!! Tukey have until today not said that they did mass murder on the Kurdes. I know some survivors, but nobody gives them attention like a Jew get, even if victim in third generation. My school friend was victim at his own. and nobody cares to say that this issent ok for a global player. Russia have murdered millions on 2.WW, Roma, Jews, own ethnic groups......not a single word in global history. America today is torturing and dealing with mass murders - not a problem. Israel has forget a secret service in best tradition of the GeStaPo and love to shoot at children, UN-personal and own people who not longer wnat that damn wall. They forged a land, Hilter would has been proud of. And all this falsity hurts a little. 

So you see - i´m also very good in digressing.

Yeah, smartness wasen´t a sign of this time for sure. All big players was cigar smoking fat guys with one hand on the balls. So....like William Shattner, the series Boston Public shows relativly exact the person he really is. 

So nothing else can be expected. England has big balls and want the war, France was pissed from the 1.WW and also wanted it, even with more remembering of what it would mean. America has big balls and send the weapon transports to England in the knowledge that this is breaking the international rules, and declares the transporters to combatant units. German submarines don´t shoot on civil ships, we shoot on slaughter cattle his own goverment has made it to. So....maybe i can say, every politican has earned the absolut minimum of what he gained, but not the people, ok, not the few who not has cheered for ther own demnation.

Btw.....sometimes i wonder why popular patriotism is. Why can´t my goverment be false, only be beeing mine? I don´t think Germany is cool as less as i think all other lands are cool. Why so many land around the world have such a problem to take this?

I´m thinking some old cultures have much more good reasons for it´s wars and problems than we have. Making a mistake one time is for education, make it twice is for making it tradition......

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-07-25 14:25:13 +0000 UTC]

hah, you used to sneak into Fliegerhorst Kaserne? yeah, kids could get away with a lot of adventures...I took the easy way, in high school at Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, Japan, I joined the Law Enforcement Explorers (part of the Boy Scouts), we got to wear actual US Air Force uniforms and go on ride-alongs with the base Security Police (and occasionally end up on gate guard duty for eight hours...so boring...). one weekend we went hunting for wild dogs that live in the bushes on base (there were a lot of wild dogs on Okinawa), the adult advisor had a tranquilizer dart gun and we kids helped him by chasing the dogs toward him, running through neighborhoods (in our dress blue uniforms and polished leather shoes at that). fun times...

live role play? oh I got a good one for ya...one day, two of my friends and I were playing RPGs and we got to arguing about the usefulness of a shield in deflecting missiles like arrows and darts...my sadistic friend had lawn darts, about 50cm long, and a round metal shield he had made, also about 50cm diameter, so we go into the back yard (mothers are yelling at these words already, "GET BACK IN THE HOUSE! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU KIDS?!" ) to test our theories. well it was my turn to use the shield, and I stood about 5m away from them...then BOTH OF THEM tossed a dart at me at the same time, one went high and one went low. to protect my head, I guarded high, and that dart hit my shield, but the low dart hit me on my shin, I still have the scar this proved our theory that if more than one missile weapon comes at you, your shield bonus should only be applied against one of them (unless you're using a large shield). I got him back later, though...he also had an archery set, and we were taking turns shooting arrows at a cardboard box at the end of his yard (there was a slope behind the yard) while the two non-shooters would try to screw up the shooter's concentration by cracking jokes. well my friend that hit me with the dart was at full draw, and John was rolling out his best comedy material, and my friend cracked up...he lost his grip on the bow, but not the string...the bow came back with a *crack* and not only smacked him in the cabbage, it also broke his arrow! after beating the shit out of me, I promised him I would replace his broken arrow ah, memories...

oh, God help the teenager who takes social cues from Hentai! he'll spend half the time thinking it's okay to attack women if he ties them up, and the other half wondering where he can get some tentacles...either way he's going to end up with a hard leather shoe in his crotch (ow...). they should just watch Bleach, and pretend girls are like Tatsuki, Ichigo's friend and classmate that got pissed when he wouldn't tell her what was wrong (I think it was when Rukia lost her powers and was taken back to Soul Society to be put on trial) and she punched him right in the kisser, and he hit his head on a window so hard that it broke the glass and he cut his head yeah don't mess with Tatsuki...

China's got several options to start a war, Japan and the Senkaku Islands is just one scenario for them. they have their old stand-bys Taiwan (which is also under American protection, but less so than Japan) and a proxy war against South Korea via their vassal North Korea (which unfortunately won't be a surprise, since the Kim family's been so bellicose over the decades). they've already fought against the Russians on the Mongolian frontier and even Vietnam, and neither proved very satisfying. what I think will be a factor that will prevent China from starting a war with America is the fact that so much of their money is invested in America already; a "hot" war would not be in their financial interests, whereas they're in a better position to turn the screws on America financially. combined with the inroads they are making in South America, traditionally America's back yard, and rivalry for Canada's substantial shale oil production (hence America's haste in setting up deals with Canada as soon as possible), and China has America in a bit of a pincer move. wars are at best a temporary shot in the arm, look at America's experience with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. wars will eventually cause bankruptcy, and screwing with a superpower that has all your money will make it that much more of a sticky situation. no, if China were to go to war, it would be with a safer bet, one that is not under US protection, like maybe India; Pakistan is already a big customer of China, they may be a willing proxy once NATO is out of Afghanistan. now India is a long-time customer of Russia, and being a former crown colony, UK may also have something to say about it (means possible cutoff of any Canadian resources as well as possibility of threat from Australia and America). if not a proxy war, then China's only option would be an expeditionary stunt in Africa, and China has no history of having an appetite for that sort of adventurism

I agree wholeheartedly, history is written by the victors, and few are willing to stand up for the losers. but if you research enough, you'll find facts that contradict convention, that raise questions that aren't answered by the ordinary texts. look deeper, and you'll find where the supposed "good guys" committed atrocities at some point, but most of these are swept under the rug of history. it is only fair that all truths be made evident for all people to take into consideration. if I ever become a history teacher, I will have to keep that in mind...foster critical thinking, let the students decide for themselves

we must remember that fascism was created as a reaction to socialism, and in the early days, many capitalists who felt threatened by the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and the socialist fervor in western European cities welcomed something to offset this threat to their way of life. political leaders also found fascism appealing, for it touched upon nationalistic feelings whereas the socialists were fomenting rebellion against the social order that oppressed the working class and gave the wealthy factory and property owners unprecedented profits. it's disturbing that our current environment of increased productivity through automation and information technology resulting in the wealthy making all the money while the workers go jobless, homeless, and hungry is very much like a third Industrial Revolution, which sets the groundwork for a resurgence of socialistic advocacy for the plight of the less well to do. this may be the reason why many conservatives in industrialized nations, already all too aware of historical precedence, are going bat-crap crazy, leaning far to the right of center politically to forestall the leftist uprising that is inevitable if the inequity doesn't stop. this leaves the centrist-leaning conservatives out in the cold, as their parties go galloping off the cliff of stupidity

I have only one thing to say about the need for M82 12.7mm sniper rifles: armor.plated.armadillos. the average street thug or gangsta doesn't wear Kevlar, so it must be armor.plated.armadillos...with sharp pointy teeth!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-07-29 00:37:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh, cool - also wanted to see Japan some day. Ok, this heard like more adventures times^^

We have just some funny moments with the base. One time we play on fields, talk and don´t mind where we go. Without crossing a fence or warning label we came to a field what looks very......devasted, even if new grass was grown over the wounds in the ground. We don´t mind and make jokes what this place was, then a Cobra apears that damn close that i SEE the pilot asking himself "WTF!!" XD

Another freakink thing was me, driving with bycicle to supermark. About a mile away from Fliegerhorst. And while crossing a street with 8 meter tall trees beside i see a Apache crossing the street also, with a high near the trees tops - that was damn scary...and loud. This guy must must extremly gone wrong.....

Btw, for a few years there were rumors about a entertainment parl should build on the base ground and more, the whole space between Bruchköbel and Erlensee. I always told that a better proof of the ground would show what the Americans do to fix its runway. In Germany such a oiled ground must be repaired with enourmous costs - so no investor would take this boot on. 

Your mom is damn right i would say^^

LARP has a bad reputation in some lands i know. Cuse is that many people think that this has anything to do with blood, or satanism. Ok, i would not say this does not happend, but we - the people who have this hobby for a long time and try to behold what it means, a game with friends - have the constantly effort to correct this false perspectiv. 

I once explained the whole thing to one of the former lawers of the Deutsch Bank for international economy law(arch-conservative bavarian).....that was as freaky as it was a absolute succsess. 

XD

There were some moments in my youth to i tried to kill myself. Once a friend and i found a Katana and Wakizashi(no real, but made of steel and sharpend) by my stepfathers stuff(yeah - roleplay in second generation....). We have tried not enough it seems, so we not even hurt each other. Just of luck. Waht a luck that in Germany firearms are very restricted.....

I wish it would....

Yeah i think some girls find the right way nevertheless. But i see so often girls who are sexual unsuspectingness and take such ideas as ther own. This teaches her next boy the same idea and so this became epidemic. 

Sorry, don´t know Bleach than from covers. Don´t like the most Animes. Most time it misses some seriousness i need to keep listening the story. What a really like is Ghost in the Shell, even this wasen´t made for the international market. If not familar with japanese way of telling a story you have a bunch of unfitting puzzle parts. Like makeing charakter telling by something casually like haircolor or such, who the hell should notice that? And then the most debattes don´t make sense...for a european. 

China. Yeah, if America for one day declares that it wouldn´t hoist the Chinese flag for all its owes japan can have the unlucky position to be to close to the enemy(and was to bound in puplic opinion). Taiwan i think wouldn´t be a nice way, but also can went away in a few days.....even if good equiped, there high militarys told that China would reach back sky control in a few days. What a shame after building the world most modern missile cruisers a few years ago....

Hah, Korea yes.....another of such storys. After i take some looks to what happend these days let my play around with my usual ideas....

"Hey guys, now you are free to elect the only available politican, btw a American pupet. Isen´t that democracy?". And teh other side nearly that smart brought to arms from the russians. What a pity that Stalin just ignored the call for help untill the war while America is overexert oneself in this war. Tactical insanitys like Hamburger Hill and such stupiditys was a good example for people who fighting for nothing than the inability to accept a withdrawal, or accept anything what doesn´t fit to the world view. 

Even four star generals fall under PR-managment actions....

The family of Kim has now some deep problems, hehe. Even it´s not so shure if anyone would laugh if he got the wrong idea in his wierd mind. Have you seen the pictures of the jungest son? He have signs of being mentally retarded(by medical reasons, not only through the little reality his family is creating for some decades). And so he act, if anyone talk a way he doesn´t understand to him, or so stupid arrogant as the Americans like to do, and he explodes. And i give you my word, this guy have just the idea that the angry man of another land will stop talking so mean to him if he pushes teh button. Nothing else. And a huge number of his generals would rather die than give up his own illusions of a North Korean world domination.....

Pride is a nice thing, if taken in in reasonably values. 

But for the moment China is still dreaming its dream from the "hard money". Let´s see what happend if they realise than money is only worth like the mouth it has promissed you the money. Like sayed above, what will happend if the red flag has to top the pentagon? Don´t think the American would say "Hah, see - who had thought this. We played and we have lost our own game, but fair is fair. Now we can save the time we waste on election partys, let´s go out and barbecue".

Yeah sure, but money has lost its meaning. Its just the language of a unified and closed system. Till now the Chinese think they are part of them just cause of spending money to the pot. 

And war is in opposit a perfect way out of bankruptcy. Who fight a war is free of democracy, free of international critique and free to declare laws to do whatever they want. Afghanistan and Iraq wasen´t wars, that was just political games with no real danger. 200.000 dollar worth soldiers run on a hill to fight a child with a coat who want´s to protect his fathers home. That´s not really war. And only the modern decadence, expand through American.....hmm, lazynes to really fight have led to such cassultys. But the economy cheered all the time. 

On a real war this would change. America isen´t ready to fight such a war, and only the reamining allies would make a difference. Ok, for shure also China hasn´t a clear idea how war has to look like today. But they wouldn´t stop if loosing a few major citys, like America would. 

India is bound to Russia through weapon support contracts liek you have sayed(what doesn´t have a bound, but it let see who want to play with who). And China wouldn´t be so stupid(and they would a lot of stupid things!) to anger Russia, who is the only land that is positioned in the democratic world AND is ready for a modern war(in different meanings - financial, technologycal, moralic, quantity, equipment and such). And i think Russia will lean back and watch the show, knowing that China and America would overexhaust in such a war. Both lands are to big. 

The crown have found out that the last tiem they run jolly in a war, the decadence of his troops brought such a incredible bad mood to the people that they will mind about a second try twice i think....

Charging a urban combat zone WHILE friendly artillery is firing and enemy snipers try to not think "this is too easy" isen´t a nice upbeat for a strong fighting nation. And that not only a few guys in Englang have danced at the street, singing "Ding dong, the witch is dead, the witch is dead...." at Fletchers burial was a clear sign what they think about these kind of wars. 

Sometimes i think, a nation who has once got a epic kick in the balls have a slight other acceptance of war. 

Öhöm.....wait a second. Not that it has a point in the discussion but i have to tell it. China HAS adventured Africa(eastcoast a long way down). A great general is traveling there with the biggest ships who was build until the modern times. 50 meters in width, flat and bulky. Some have own vegetable beets stacked on main deck to support the fleet. Bevore they start, they have fought the biggest pirate war China has ever seen, over 50 pirate ships had been fighting and was destroyed by these monsters. Around 1400 i think, a Kaiser send his adventurous general o explore teh world and bring new goods home. These guy did, but as he came home his supporting Kaiser has died and his seccsess was a unpleasant memory for the new one. Now someone very classical who want´s China close and seperated from the world. 

But after being ignored from history(what is normal in chinese tradition in a situation like this) it has been proved that around 1400 giraffes has walked in the kaiser palace. Of the general only a memorial stone at the dry docks is left. 

Ok....nerdynerd.....

hehe, i see you would be a teacher i had like to had, but for sure not for long. In both of our "civilisated countrys" i have seen the practise to filter out such political incorect parts of the education personal. History is warped till nothing is really left and modern students have IDEAS!! Today scientists, experts, tell stuff i can refute with basic scholl education(and what cames after them....). T-Rex was a herbivore, did you heared? 

Science become a game of "who tells the most wierd story". And such stuff found audition! What, sorry that it always came to this cliche, American astrophysicans tell me about her field of science is incredible bullshit. I read books of Stephen Hawking since i was a child and know if i had shit on the ear. If i hear another trial about black holes i will hit the TV/journal with my teeth!

Gnphhh......i think i would get mad if i would see that the students decide nothing......

Facism. Mmmmmm...the word maybe. The human behavior it discribes was older. 

In fact sozialism and facism as acting pattern for a goverment has realitvly the same results. Both are tools to guide peoples opinion and keep them under controle while optimal used. When socialism is once etablished, it is not the tool of rebelion anymore than the exact opposit - in terms. The redred Russian at the 2.WW was exactly as facistic as Hitler, just with another color. 

We turned the trial of economicalisation too far, it become a religion for the actors. It must, in another way these people would see a sadistic murderer in mirror every morning. Thes is a normal way of human minds to prevent itself from harm. So this evolution of missery is a unstopable unconected sect in the middle of our societys. And it will break for a new "better and liberating" concept like so often before. 

And yes, the partys who talk about correcting the system will loos audition cause nobody want to her that lies again and again. But a spitting and screaming preacher of hate will always found audition. Such a guy can make a change ah? 

And the information enviroment has sepperated us much more than informed. Ok, to be hionest i´m happy to be able to get nearly all information around the world on my screen - but if i had a fix opinion i can find my proves with easyness. No matter what opinion. If i belive in brain sucking aliens who was formed liek Cola cans - i would find proves. In this enviromet i easily can choose what the people want to seen and they will see. 

Yeah...what´s left to say.....it´s a human behavior and the guys who tricked it out are long gone. Left is a unchained insanity who is virulent in human 

convictions. A memic pleague or something......

.......?.............

WhAT? Ok, your wilderness is a little more wild than ours(we have eaten everything what sounds dangerus-.-). But is ther really a need to have children run around with weapons? Everyone running around with one?

See, i´m often in thoughts to prohibit stupit people to drive cars. Ok, maybe this is a little extrem but.....if i imagine these people have weapons - i want some too. And i must use it daily to protect myself from reacionary, stupid assholes. 

Ok i also see the point of a high criminal rate and a veeeery leisurely cops. But this hadn´t gone that far if not every damn street gang can buy a MP. Also the prisons, everyone who go in a prison can leave it with a gang membership and the knowledge to be a real problem for the society - or dead. justice has leave the prisons to the criminals as training camps o.O

This is a trial downstairs. And this NRA&Co thing is a representativ for what i see. Everyone is so close to weapon use that the step to use it is much smaler than for someone who never had one at hand. And daily paranoia isen´t helpfull also i think......btw, i don´t say anything if people need a weapon against animal treatments of some areas, but it become lifesyle, and that´s a problem in my eyes. 

Another thing i didn´t understand - a damn M82A1can be a nice tool to de-elect the politican someone don´t like. America is so paranoid of terrorism, why giving them the tools to be really devasting so easily??? In Germany you have to by a real criminal to get a MP, yes, this wouldn´t prevent someone specialised not to get a sniper rifle and shoot someone, but one sniper does so, not every twentys guy on the street in the wrong urban areas can do. 

This.....i just don´t understand.....

Please don´t take it personaly if i givemy critique so often to big A`...........it´s just so.....present in so many examples.....

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-07-30 23:47:22 +0000 UTC]

ah, the Cobra probably belonged to the Cavalry unit at Büdingen, 4/7 CAV. reminds me of when I lived in an apartment building near the ocean in Okinawa, the F-15s landing pattern curved right around our building. being the tallest building so close to the end of the runway, I think the pilots used it as a reference point...I was on my patio one day when an F-15 flew by so close that I could see the pilot turn his head and look right at me  it's a good thing I wasn't a good looking girl in a bikini, he might have messed up his approach! the Apache flying too low might have been on a public service mission to trim the trees I'm sure Ops had some words with the crew later...

yes, I live near a closed military base here in California (El Toro), and same thing, they had all sorts of plans to make it into a utopian business and commerce park surrounded by new housing, but so far all they seem to have is a hot air balloon ride, all the rest of the plans fell apart because of the clean-up involved. there's another closed base (Tustin) where they did take one corner of the base far away from the maintenance hangars and made a shopping mall; the center of the base used to be for zeppelins before 2.WK, there are two huge wooden zeppelin hangars that are historical landmarks (they use them for movie and sound studios inside, I've seen at least two TV commercials that were shot inside there). I like them, they're incredibly huge...America still has these zeppelin hangars on former Navy bases up and down both coasts, there are more at Moffett Field near San Francisco. the US Navy used to have about five of them, two of them built by Zeppelin GmbH in Friedrichshafen

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-08-01 17:49:07 +0000 UTC]

Possible, didn´t know about the bases vehicles so good. 

XD yes, a nice top has maybe let this story end a little sooner for sure. 

Yeah.......sometimes i bet with a friend the pilots play a game called "That's not you dare"

...this would explain some things......

I know from a hangar of extem size, build for the scales who are not so economically today. It was converted to a water park with sand beaches, big plants and all the stuff you see in a resort. Must be cool i can imagen...specially on rainy days.

Cool, hope sometimes to have enough moments i critique about Germany also so that it not sounds that i wouldn´t give this right back

I see too much patriotism around me, in American, on my site and all around the world. If more people would also talk about the bad parts of its own society there was a couple of obsolete wars.....

Btw: Hehe, i know the slogan with a more...dirty part.... what paraphrase the worth of the single opinion XD

Okay, i´m that lazy in answearing that you don´thave to hurry much

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-08-02 10:55:26 +0000 UTC]

yeah, when I lived in Aschaffenburg as a kid, I didn't get to see aviation very much; the 3.Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized) had one Panzer and two PzGren Bataillone, a Lance Artilleriebataillon but no other Artillerie, a Pionierbataillon with Kipper Lkw, a Feldjägerbataillon and a Sanitätsbataillon. every once in a while (like maybe twice in the 7 years I lived there), I saw a UH-1 fly in to Graves Barracks, but I didn't find out they had a tiny Flugplatz next to the Main river until just a few years ago on the Internet...amazing that I could live there that long and not know about it. one day, during Reforger, I saw two A-10s flying at low altitude come over the city, but they were far away. when I visited Hanau, I never got to Fliegerhorst (to my dismay), my dad was driving and we only went where he had business, usually Pioneer Kaserne, a couple times to Lamboystraße's Kasernen (Hessen-Homburg, Hutier, Francois), I think once to Wolfgang Kaserne, and once to the Hochschule near Wolfgang (a visit, I left Germany before I started 9th grade)

the indoor water park sounds like a great idea, you could enjoy it in winter as well!

oh I know you do, we are both equal-opportunity callers-out of horse shit part of the reason so many Americans act so proud and don't bag on themselves is because that's the way they are taught, by their teachers and their parents. I grew up with ignorant shithead kids that only knew about American victories, how they could do no wrong, and other nationalities were crap. it's bad enough being a foreigner and having to put up with that shit, it hurts that much more when you ARE an American and they accuse you of being a different nationality just so they can ridicule you. I'm sure if my dad was younger, or perhaps cared more, then he would have been pissed that the son of a US Navy veteran was being mocked as being Japanese. but he always had this laissez-faire attitude about me, never seemed to truly understand what I was going through. he just wanted me to stop being a victim and get stronger, so I did

now, having grown up on military bases all my childhood and a few years of my adult life, I am partial to trusting the federal government a bit more than the average civilian, because of the things you've mentioned: there are a lot of nut-jobs out here, many who know only two things, skewed interpretations of religion and the Constitution. if they at least had a respect for laws as well as love of country, that would be something to work with; but remember that many people in certain states are advocating secession, and have little regard for Washington and progressive ideas. in the 1960s, when the feds mandated desegregation of schools in the south, it took federal troops to safeguard African American students. in the 1990s, armed militias sprang up, requiring federal intervention. today, unscrupulous people sell guns without conducting background checks, and insane people can buy massive amounts of guns and ammunition to commit mass murder. yet, when the government is caught spying on phone calls and internet usage to track down terrorists, it's a fucking calamity. we have a problem with CONSISTENCY, not conspiracy

sorry, I had to edit this (yet again), because it was getting too long and I was getting pissed off at the situation. you can't always say what you mean, on a permanent environment like the internet archives. that's probably why my responses to you take such a long time...I have to think and rewrite, think and rewrite  I still want to discuss China, but later

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-08-02 17:18:53 +0000 UTC]

Haha, i ever interested more in groung vehicles^^^

Think everyone seek what he not see all day. But A10´s i would have love to see also. Only plane i saw was a hercules with thrusters to manage our small airfield

Oh, Aschaffenburg cool. That´s a nice city...ok i only know th elast years but....i like it a lot. With Fliegerhorst you don´t miss so much. It´s close to Erlensee and this isen´t the nicest place.....some of it was real ghetto stile, and this was in result found in the base too. Children of Americans and Germans have a hard stand some time i think, and this makes a counterreaction. So on school, everyone was acting badass. God i hate my schooltime-.-

But Hanau wasen´t much better i leraned later.....at last this city have the excuse to ARE a city...

Yes, never meet but. Ah maybe some day i will try. But, what a luck, my girlfriend have more interest in making a trip to the tank museum in Münster on my birthday

Hah, what a luck again^^ Being a teachers soon maybe gives a additional perspective of education buisness^^

And growing up makes the search for failures much much easierXD

I can also take moments of history to be proud of my land, but if i watch the biggest part of guys who share my nationality....i don´t like to tell it too loud-.-

America is just such a good example, it´s in international politics, economy - just damn everywhere. And the basic posing isen´t a big help to keep silence....

Sometimes i watch N24 or some other chanels who have most documentary of American stuff. And specially on the docus about military stuff i want to scream, take a red pencil and mark all the worng informations. Its more like watching promotion for a product.....and i know, Americans see this documenations too! What makes some reactions understandable.....

Yeah i understand....as  i have say, i have my ideas of education service providers....

But if i remember my schooltime, i sometime must ask myself if they could do ther job with a sense for social problems and behaviors. Like psychiatrists this maybe is an elimination for the job to have a eye for such things. And being a veteran add´s another unfitting behavior to this, in basic difficult, circumstances. Everything can be done with strengh....yeah for sure....but in the in retrospect the adult people most time are pissed if you solve your problems with classmates through a assaultrifle......maybe a little inconsistent?

Yeah, be a soldier in any kind warps the perspective for sure. You have more to do with the pain your buddys get than with the reasons why they must fight or the enemy will hurt you. And i abslutly understand that this reasons are nothing worth if the first friend died in combat. So the only way to not get involved is to not be part of a war in any way...what sometimes its hard if your goverment has not the slides interest in to hear your critique, or arguments. America has unfortunally such a tradition in leading wars that it became a good and normal job to fight and to kill. Together with the intention to bring as much low educated - the not employed of tomorrow - people it goes dirty more and more. It was like 1980´s novels, where big nations have there own caste, stupid, horray-patriotic and willing to kill. 

Not that enough people think the defend freedom and democracy but.....it´s less that heroic every day. 

And after America indicates (nearly) all wars in the last time it has similaritys with a locust swarm, eat up everything and then go to the next food grounds. All this supports a normaly not economically survivable nation. 

And as you say, every nearing to a real modern state must delivert to the easy and agressive people with force, or more economically - not at all. Who cares for a racist murder in the southern states? Some places it is called tradition and decency. 

Baaahhh.....see, i think America is simply too big to be called one nation. In fact it isen´t. But the economically consolidation makes it incredible strong, strong enough to kick everyones ass(ok...that´s the past...) to declare it´s "being right".

And the Homeland Security is a good example of the fear what makes such a big land able to reign. If the people are frightend, they obey. And the insanity of a facistic state grows and grows. I really hope that all peole i like who live in America not someday wake up in a 4th reich. Cause there are not so much differences, beside the terms of another time. 

I can absolutly understand.....but it´s good to let it out rather then let it make a ulcerated stomach

Wow, that´s hard....harder than i imagine....

Ok, no problem. Hope i don´t bring you in trouble anyway.....

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-08-06 14:58:04 +0000 UTC]

I had no idea...living in "A-Burg", we always assumed that since Hanau was closer to Frankfurt, that life would be nicer. the notable exception was Babenhausen, where an Artilleriebrigade was located (all on one big Kaserne, complete with a short Flugplatz). we had kids come to our school from Babenhausen for one year, I think their school was being rebuilt, and they were tougher than the buttholes at A-Burg! it didn't make much sense at the time, they were closer to Frankfurt, yet they were like tough city street kids 

we did an exchange visit with a German school once, where we were paired up and invited to lunch at a German kid's house. now it was tad unfair, I found out that Mittagessen is the biggest meal, so we ate delicious Schweinekoteletts und Kartoffeln, but when we invited the German kids to our school, we bussed over to the Officers Club where they fed us hamburgers! granted, the one time we took a trip to an army Kantine, we ended up eating hamburger helper (like sautierten Eintopf with ground beef and noodles), so the deluxe hamburgers at the Officers Club weren't too bad still, in hindsight it was a little embarrassing...

oh wow...she wants to take you to Deutsches Panzermuseum Munster? you are a lucky man, she is a keeper! back in the '90s, I downloaded every page of their website, and between SysTran (?) and my German dictionary, I read each one for details...that's where I learned about Laser-Entfernungsmesser (LRF), Wärmebildgerät (thermal sights), Lichtverstärker (passive/light amplifier sights), all that and more I learned from DPM. it was only in the last few years or so that I began picking up Tankograd books, not just on USAREUR subjects but also Bundeswehr - die Anfangsjahre des Heer and the M48 Patton in der Bundeswehr. part of my military history research was looking up the various Heeresstruktur organization and equipment tables, and the first Tankograd book covered 1-3, and 4-6 (?7?) I picked up on the internet. I used the info to correct mistakes in my computer wargame WinSPMBT, but they eventually got someone with better info than I had to make official changes...but for the better part of the last 10-15 years, that's where my interests were

I have no respect for abusive teachers who are bureaucrats...I was fortunate to have had many teachers who actually cared about their students, but I had a few bad apples too I think these bad teachers forget what it was like to be a student, how they would have wanted to be treated. if I become a teacher, I will not forget that experience...I'd like to take whatever subject I end up teaching, and make it interesting for the students, to help them want to learn it, and never forget that the students are human beings. we'll see how it goes

oh, you notice errors in programs too? yes, you have to remember that Americans have elevated bullshit to an art form, and there are plenty of intellectually lazy media types that make blatant errors. I like to watch military history shows not so much for the information (which I already studied in book after book) but to see the actual footage of action, it's still amazing to watch history unfold...and watch real people taking part in things I've only read about. as far as factual errors on equipment, don't I know it...back to the M48 Patton again, I've researched the hell out of at least a dozen books, dozens of websites, and I've been able to piece together something as mundane as production figures for the various models. I still come across errors like "the M48A2 was the most numerous produced" (bullshit), "the M48A3 was fielded in 1968" (bullshit), "the M48 was fielded in USAREUR in 1953" (bullshit), "the M48A5 had LRF and thermal sights" (bullshit except in non-US use), so on and so forth. it's particularly irksome if it's in a book I just paid money for...grr... you'd think, in a freakin' thick hard-bound book, it's not too much to ask when a particular model was fielded, by what unit, and where, but I guess that kind of information is either real hard to find or the author just doesn't give a crap...grr...but I digress

you have a point...America as one country is a concept most appreciated by those employed by the federal government like soldiers. but the individual states have sovereignty, and they constantly butt heads with the feds. ironically, the ultraconservatives are the ones who talk about how evil the federal government is, how they should cut the government and overturn laws, and eliminate taxes...and they glorify the founding fathers and want to go back to the idealized past before there was a federal government. they forget that there are good reasons why laws like the Sherman Anti-Trust Act or the Privacy Act of 1974 had to be enacted...under the Constitution alone, abuses happened. it's like the "don't eat the urinal cakes" sign, you wouldn't need a sign if people weren't doing the deed. look at the author Henry David Thoreau, who wrote Civil Disobedience and advocated resistance against an unjust government, and yet he was an abolitionist and a philosopher with very strong views about a better government, not eliminating it. frankly I don't want to "go back" to when slavery was legal, where a religious nutjob banned alcohol, unscrupulous businessmen could railroad people and screw them over, or arguments could be settled with a freakin' duel. nostalgia is blind, the past was not better

nah, I'm good, I just don't want to be too partisan, not because the feds would be concerned, but possibly employers (they already look up your Facebook pages, and that's perfectly legal). besides, as you allude, being too enamored by any one political party is folly...better to have your own point of view not clouded with propaganda or alleged "patriotism"

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-10-20 23:27:36 +0000 UTC]

Im actually don´t too....i just compared it with Erlensee or Frankfurt....

In the end in all corners are some dump ass guys i think..... It´s always better somwhere else^^

Ah, i think burgers are a great thing, cause its something special in opposit to the regular food. And kids never anger about burgers XD

So i think they are not TOO unpleased^^

Hey btw something similar, my girls sister once was in Japan and live by a guest family. They always tried to make most German food, with a lot of expansiv beef, and on the living room table always stand a cup with some fresh apples(every day fresh, what was really expansive, 5 DM the apple!) - just to make her feel home. She repine one or two days to say it, but she came to see another land and its food. 

Haha, not without own use Not that she isen´t a keeper, damn she is! But its so wonderfull to share so much things with her, not just through her acceptance(think i would feel unpleasant if she would do it just for me....). It´s not her basic interest, but for creating RPG´s all infos about tech are interesting, and so she makes space for this interest(beneth having a trip with friend&boyfriend;)).

Huh, i think i´m not so firm with the tech details as i could be, but i more prever the bigger picture (XD – sound much better than calling myself a Nuub).

But the game – ther is no need that ther guys are better informed, too often game/movie-producer have no real interest in paying an advisor.

They just care for teh basics and good, and most people are fine with that. I was very confused about some relativ new kind of tv-series callen Flashpoint. The are so refreshing realistic.....

Hah...in some moments i think these teachers remember very well what it means to be student AND NOW TAKES REVENGE. So they changed from victim to offender, like many students do also. On a school trip to Italy we had a week in that we don´t saw a single teacher exept if one of them came off the teachers bungalow to bring out a empy box of wine bottles and buy a new one-.-

The best teacher i ever had was a indian guy on vocational school – unfortunally he had to rebuild up a education ruin........

Uh...sometimes i wish i had another basic situation around education, but live goes on.

Yes, these authors are like the game/movie-producers above....“why should i do rechearch? The book gets selled or?“. I hate the faact that they are right. I hate that the publisher don´t have to fear the lost of readers trust if publishing such dirt.

These political wing is riding the problems everyone can see, whatever the people like to her, this will be said. Before our last political setting the left wing said: „yes ok, let the other make ther goverment, let them solve all the problems they always make us responsible for. This would show how false the rhetoric was all the years“. Phah, they did, turned half ther way about 180° and led the rest as aimed against the wall. And what the people understand? Nothing.....

If i would be politican i would make clear that i cant make politic with this people. Sometimes i wish a education test before election could help-.-

Don´t eat the urinal cakes.....i will remember that, not a bad analogy. Yes – i think i like it.....

I see my complain as some kind of self-therapy. Maybe like screaming, but with a little chance that others has something from it(even if just a bad conscience). So i see the point that open speaking more and more can produce problems in life, but in my position i´m safe so far. And ther are no bound of (visible) personal datas to this account as like in Facebook(one of the biggest attacks of the surviving ´80 scifi-authors who warned from monitoring – now the people do it from ther free will o.O i wouldn´t be suprised if the one or other comits suicide if mention Facebook).

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-11-18 14:59:43 +0000 UTC]

well, in my favorite old movie "Patton" with George C. Scott playing George S. Patton (must have been easy on the set..."hey, where's George?" ), it was interesting to see American tanks being represented by M47 Pattons, and the German Panzers were represented by M48 Pattons! (probably the only tanks they could readily borrow from some National Guard armory or something...I believe they also used M48s for Panzers in the Big Red One). but in "Saving Private Ryan", they at least made an effort to make the Panzers look right, two Marder III (must have been scratch-built, in the only close-up it wasn't moving) and two Tiger I (modified T-34s, from the roadwheels, looked a lot like the ones they used in Kelly's Heroes), even a SdKfz 251 half-track (the lower half was hidden by the tall grass, so I assume it was a modified normal truck, but the upper half looked good). but the most authentic Wehrmacht vehicle I've seen in a Hollywood movie was the huge SdKfz 7 half-track in The Dirty Dozen, that one was authentic (since the movie was shot in England, maybe they borrowed it from Bovington?)

I know some teachers are not that different than a doctor who looks down on the patients (like House), or a lawyer (I've met a couple of those), even politicians (they may be the worst, because they'll tell the constituents exactly what they want to hear to get the votes, then once elected, they serve the wealthy special interests). here in California, there has been a rash of teachers being arrested in the last few years...the worst case is one accused of playing a game with his elementary school students by having them wear a blindfold, and he would put his semen on cookies and have them eat the tainted cookies while he videos them  he is denying the charges, but several students have told the same story, and the police (and the press) have the videos. he's an old man, he won't last long in prison

speaking of intelligence tests and politicians...I might have mentioned Republican Senator Rand Paul (his father Ron Paul was the Libertarian who ran for president several times and never got elected...he was the isolationist who wanted to do away with taxes ). anyway, he used to make these profound speeches, using movie references to be attractive to the younger voters. well, he was caught plagiarizing Wikipedia articles! he used them in speeches, almost verbatim, without attribution to Wikipedia or the article authors, only to who made the movies. the scandal became international when a Mexican reporter interviewed him and asked about his repeated plagiarizing. he got pissed...but didn't fire anyone on his staff, oh no, he got pissed at the members of the press who outed him! in reference to one newswoman on MSNBC who spearheaded his outing, he said he wished they still allowed DUELLING so he could defend his honor! as saner minds on his staff prevailed, he made a simple statement that he would be more careful in "footnoting" his speeches. he doesn't seem to understand what plagiarism is, and what it can do to your political career

oh, and former Republican President George W. Bush just gave a speech at a conference held by the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America. apparently this is an organization that wishes to convert all the Jews in Israel to Christianity ("awaken the sleepers"), which will cause the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and trigger the Apocalypse, as all the converted Jews and Christians will rise to heaven as the world is wiped clean. needless to say, his speaking at this conference didn't sit well with the Jewish community, who considered him a friend to Israel the timing couldn't have been worse, as the nuclear talks with Iran broke down and Bibi Netanyahu is saying if they accept the "easy" terms on Iran, then "it would only leave the military option for Israel." it's apparent that Netanyahu doesn't like President Obama, and if he feels that his friend Bush now wants to proselytize the Jews, then he might feel he doesn't have any friends he can count on, and might take unilateral action which just might trigger the Apocalypse that the MJAA wants, with or without the Second Coming 

you're right, dA is more secure than Facebook...and I am rapidly reaching the "don't give a shit" stage (note that my first deviation was a short story with a mature filter for language, and yet I'm starting to swear in Comments) ah, give me time, I'll turn into that mayor of Toronto soon enough!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-11-18 22:19:29 +0000 UTC]

DD was and damn old thing..maybe some vehicles just stand aroundXD

Sounds wierd but, in the years after the war till, in parts, today - you can find the one or other relic on a farmers barn^^ Do you know the english move "Hot Fuzz"? Ther is a joke with a barn full of arms and a sea mine....not as far as someone would mind.......

If not - take a look, it´s a damn funny movie

Yeah......think they live in a reality in what a butcher don´t have to be nice to the meat. And those group of jobs work with people instead of meat......

All positions who lift individuals over other people have the problem that these individuals loose the ability to stay back from the individual story and missery of the persons he works with - or get broken through it. But i don´t see teachers in that right(if the desicion to be an ashole is a right), cause they don´t act with humans in its worst moments(in front of justice, in illness or something equal). They just have children to work with, and has it in own hands if these children can be cruel to each other or not(yes sure, ther are subtleties, the teachers must work together to "hold the line" against stupid parents, school guidlines and such problems but....in the end, they can do something when lawers and doctors just have to correct the results of problems). 

Hah...the land of hearsay....don´t know what realy happend there. But if guilty - hey, have fun in prison dude. If not....hmmm, i would say at last he is guilty of playing the wrong melody what is easy to missinterpred. Maybe it was some kind of "cool" social experiment what is repeatet some times in movies. And even some big universitys have made some....questionable experiments in it´s history and has been more or less proud of these(LSD is just an example). Ther is a other enviroment for understanding of such things in America than in Germany, ok i think so after all i hear. Don´t know if child abuse is a so much bigger problem in America than in Germany(don´t really think that this differs that much), but it seems that in America is a much more wake watch for such indications, and with these in combination with a reactional vein, a quicker reaction. Maybe less thoughtful - even the child who was saved through this would surely not complain. And so i, but also the ones who was innocently judged in reaction to a "bad feeling". Tricky.......tricky......

The bigger gun for prove his right has an old traditionXD

Hey, don´t anger too much in think over this people like real humans.....they are not really....think sometimes they was just television jokes or something....

To a political career in which land? Sub-Idaho-redneck-Empire? That´s the places this guys live mentionally in, they are not part of the same worlds as we are. They are just too rich born to count as insane dude who don´t hurt anyone. Haha, we had a similar problem with the drowning mental stability on incesting nobles....France and England can sing a song of itXD

Don´t worry, no arabic or persian politican would ever think any American could be his "friend"(or any comparable term). It´s luck of th emoment that these guys don´t really know how to play the instrument of western credulity. Btw. have you seen some interviews with Achmadinedshad? Wow that guy is amazing funny! I saw an interview, and he ripped the interviewer in pieces, just with nice words and a friendly smile. 

Whooohooo...these radical christian sects are more hardcore than i thought O.O What drug they need for such a.....creatice basic of faith?

Hehe, do you feel the corruption i bring over you?:evilplan:

I´m sure that would be funny

But remember, you must learn to drop all the educativ load that others may see the reallity a little more clear and find satisfaction in kicking idiots faces(rhetorically...so...the really painfull versionXD). Don´t know if i would give my vote to turn a nice guy into a....politican

Think your´re too good for that

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2013-11-26 14:06:09 +0000 UTC]

I saw the highlights of Hot Fuzz on YouTube…it was the “By the power of Greyskull” moment, right? what a freakin’ arsenal! The clip also showed the two cops jumping over the fences…well, ONE cop jumped over the fences, the other went THROUGH the fences it is hilarious…

when I first heard of the rash of teachers being accused of such things, since there seemed to be an arrest every other WEEK, I became suspicious that it was a conspiracy. this was right when the government was fighting about the budget, and the Republicans were saying we need to get rid of government employees like police, firefighters, and teachers. a cynical mind would ask, who would benefit the most from getting rid of tenured teachers approaching retirement age? if you were a teacher getting close to retirement, it would be pretty stupid to throw away not only your pension but your freedom over such a disgusting experiment. note that in some large American corporations who shall remain nameless, I hear that they deliberately make it harder and harder for older employees nearing retirement to keep working…things like suddenly increasing their work load, or changing their hours to another shift, or transferring them to other branches unnecessarily and more frequently, all to burn out the employee before retirement so they’ll be forced to quit. this is especially a problem for non-union office worker types, since they don’t have a powerful union to back them up and most aren’t paid enough to have a lawyer at their beck and call. big bureaucracies do immoral things, because they don’t answer to their customers or their employees, but to outside influences like shareholders, or perhaps they need the money for something else. this whole episode neatly derailed my plans to become a teacher, too

yeah, sometimes saying bombastic, stupid things like that just makes politicians more popular with the gun-nut crowd. I wonder if the NRA sent a boxed gift set of two pistols for his comments

it wasn’t all that long ago that they were burning “witches” in Salem, Massachusetts but yeah, advocating for the end of days sounds like fodder for a movie, not something sane individuals would wish on anyone, not even your enemies

aaargh, yes I am being corrupted! hah…if anyone voted for me, they would deserve what they get! have you seen those videos of mayor Ron Ford of Toronto? holy moley, what a meltdown…and what he said to the media just a few days ago about some woman’s allegations against him? I mean, he does realize he’s a politician, right? “I’m married, I get enough to eat at home,” he says…oh lordy, I blew a snot bubble when I heard that…if I became emperor of Canada, I’d hire him as my court jester, he’s a laugh a minute!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2013-12-07 17:36:52 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for the late reply.....actually types&words make me confused very soon  

Yeah think it was that scene

It´s a great movie - i have it in my shelf and never regret it! You absolutly should see the whole thing^^

Btw...."Shaun Of The Dead" is 90% the same crewXD

Check, is it also that buisness managment ruins humans through this "sort out of uneconomical employees". But it is good for the concern, so the goverment would be stupid to stop anything what is good for the money bags of its primaily electors. And the unions are so damn much more deregulated in America that there isen´t a question why they don´t make something effective against this. It´s ther daily raison d'être. They exist through its corner existence in what the have an lever to politics. They have a good live. Even German unions are for from any kind of "employees best friend" or even a backup. 

And about the political perspective - you know my idea of a epidemic insanity in this circles.....

"People are easy" is easy to keep in remembrance-.-

Unfortunally also for the easy ones.....the same triggers work even after all the time humans exists.....

Oh yes my girlfriend told me, i remember......Ron Ford O.O

Amazing on the one hand, absolut normal at the other. The most fascinating thing i think was: Why the heg NOBODY have seen this totally loose of sanity on him??? The drugs do exactly what he has shown, but why such a person takes this kind of drugs? As a politican, cocain is basic and nobody wonders about a selfish, arrogant politican with no fears or? But Crack?

...so this was my better picture of Canada

But in a line with Achmadinedschad, Vladdy and such persons in public - i must respect that he make a funny moment and a big critique on the political systems(even he don´t know that he had...what....reduces the fun a little bit).

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-01-28 16:25:57 +0000 UTC]

oooh, Shaun of the Dead I had heard of! I’ll check out the rest of Hot Fuzz soon…

sometimes it feels like they’re just not thinking things through, which is unusual for business leaders used to predicting outcomes and trends, or political leaders who find ever more creative ways to attack their rivals. remove these government employees from the work force, and what’s going to happen to them? they’re not going to disappear, no matter how much they will it. then these same idiots are the first to complain about “where are the cops? where are the paramedics?” and don’t even think about making them pay for their own police and firefighters, oh no, what do they pay taxes for? meanwhile all the laid off workers go hungry and lose their homes. freakin’ nuts…

yeah, crazy politicians can be entertaining…and he's still at it, that wacky Canuck just a few days ago, after another embarrassing public display of being sauced off his rocker, he admitted to reporters that he went back to drinking ironically, he is very popular with his constituents

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-01-29 18:51:24 +0000 UTC]

Hit ya couch! xD

Hehe, this is my vision of the political job:

One man is elected to say something, and a hundret have to make interpretations of it to fill ther own money bags. And if one of them has depledet the peoples money - the one man was blamed and replaced.

In this evolution, not the smartest guys came in this "one man" position, or someone who has made the contract in frist - i made it, i will nod a lot, and after all i take my blame and a biiiig fat position in the economy without real work.

DA-DA! Everyone get´s happy, nobody losses. 

Ok...maybe the people and other things with no relation or worth to the politics. 

It´s kind o Roman society. The upper class have no idea where it´s money cames from("Öh....from the stock marke, or?"). And so ther is no reason to fear anyone. They think everything is ok, for decades they thought so. And to be honest - the system works. The rich get´s never victims of it´s own policy. Maybe some on the lower ranks get cut, but....hah, why should the survivers care?

That´s why the don´t understand that it´s so close to the point that social rules fall appart, that police and such isen´t a god-given thing what existis like air. sometimes i mind we must face this truth - this people aren´t evil, they are just insane. Disconnected from reallity in its ivory towers. 

But we life in a time where also we(and our "class") are blindet, first century that we can call so many people wealthy. Poor people died to all ages on all levels of social peace, were just the "new" poor:/

Hah, cool somehow....i would estimate the people are so disenchanted that they estimate nothing, and think the best if the gain something....in this case possibly "This guy at last say soemthing others wouldn´t dare!".

Yeah...it´s insulting to the people...but i think i possibly overestimate them with that.....sorry, i have my limits of imagination

But this limits get expand atm....got new applications for our event  

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-02-03 14:11:32 +0000 UTC]

very interesting take on politics, Nikita! it certainly seems that way, and explains why most politicians are rich, and somehow no matter what party is the majority, the rich get taken care of while everyone else either stays the same or suffers. oh sure, every once in a while, you hear about a rich person who went bankrupt, lost their home, etc. but they are damn rare (unless they are arrested for some heinous crime, like Bernie Madoff)

yes, it is insanity...and very much like the 5th century CE Romans. the economy stagnates, the rich pay less and less taxes as they invest more and more in personal armies of guards, turning their plantations into little countries, while the Empire itself crumbled around them and the cities starved. it also means the rich are poor students of history, not that it matters...there will be no Visigoths or Ostrogoths to take over administration this time

remember a Keanu Reeves movie called Vernetzt - Johnny Mnemonic? the rich corporations lived in opulence in their "ivory towers", while the majority of people were suffering and dying from a disease that the corporations had a cure for but would only sell it at an unaffordable price (I particularly remember this movie for the appearance of a famous Japanese comedian, Takeshi Kitano aka "Beat" Takeshi, as the corporate/yakuza leader Takahashi). Keanu's character, the title name Johnny Mnemonic, was a courier who used his brain as media to store data...he happens to be carrying the formula for the cure. as he gets involved (involuntarily) in the uprising to distribute the cure among the poor, he starts bitching about how he misses the fancy hotel with the silk sheets and free dry cleaning service the more recent Elysium with Matt Damon and Jodie Foster is of the same vein

our society today is rapidly reaching that point...there are business elites who have no freaking idea how the average worker is suffering, how the good-paying union labor jobs are disappearing and are replaced by piss-for-wages, no-benefits crap jobs, creating a rift in the strata of the former middle class. all too soon, it will be the rich and those henchmen who work for them at the top, and the masses of chronically underpaid, disadvantaged, disenfranchised people who could never afford a ticket to the Super Bowl let alone buy a house. businesses would cater to the rich and concentrate on products they buy, and the poor would eke out an existence going from 99 cent bargain stores to Goodwill charity centers, riding public transportation or bicycles to get to work, their health ruined from working long hours in multiple $hit jobs under unhealthy conditions...and if they get sick, "oh just go to the Emergency Room" without thinking about how the patients are to pay for that expensive care, or if they don't pay, how the hospitals and communities will have to cover the debt. how can we be so far advanced, and be backsliding into 19th century societal issues? it can only be insanity

as long as people keep in mind that the bombastic politik coming out of the mouths of their political leaders is just that, a lot of hot air to satisfy the masses, and won't be connected in any way to actual policy, then I'd say "sure, have at it". the problem is that there are politicians who don't realize that it's supposed to be that, and actually enact laws that follow some of the dumbest, most hare-brained rhetoric that scares the crap out of me it's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt...

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-02-07 22:01:42 +0000 UTC]

Some ill trees must be cut from time to time to safe the wood. 

Hah, seems that i learn better and better to compress my critiqe

Yes, even computer games have a higher judgment than our bad programmed reality....

Sounds a little bit liek the history of the Mafia.....just without Napoleon

Yes, very well^^ Cause it´s such a perfect example for "what is Shadowrun" xD

But Elysium i haven´t seen atm. wanted to, but never find time&chance at the same time.....im wierd some times....

hah, yes, i belive in some kind of herd-illness. Whole (statistical) societys can get infectet by a delusion and suffer the disvantages of a illnes. Maybe they get a fever and get healthy again, or die. 

I take it with writing, who have some equal ideas, or at last depressing facts in live, will see the critiqe i write. That´s one of my favorit draft horses to be honest. This is the system, and the main charakters break out of them, only for themselfes, and the rest suffers the great illness. So i can cry out my frustration as well as a fiction of hope. Veeery pleasing.

And god yeah, there are not that much qualifiengs for politicans(rich house born, old boundarys to dusty money&economy, same dusty  universitys who teach the same old and obsolete bullshit, same brain-fucking sororitys what makes you ready for a fine sect-puppet-life). 

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-02-10 14:38:41 +0000 UTC]

yes indeed! now if I can just do the same...

oh no way...Napoleon and the Mafia? I thought he was on Corsica?

ah, yes, Shadowrun! cyberpunk was very popular in the '90s. I haven't seen Elysium yet either, from what I have seen it seems to resemble Vernetzt - Johnny Mnemonic crossed with Mobile Suit Gundam (with the war of the space colonies)

now it is MY turn to regret not being able to read German, so I can read your stories! I certainly hope society gets better, even in the quaint Star Trek way where everyone has their needs taken care of, and only work to get what they want or to improve society. I've often wondered why business people tend to look down on Star Trek and Trekkies...I remember one Star Trek episode where they rescue a bunch of people frozen in cryogenic capsules, and one of them is a 20th century businessman. one of the first things he asks for is a copy of the Wall Street Journal so he can check his stocks. he is rather distressed when Mr. Spock tells him there is neither a Wall Street Journal nor stock exchanges anymore (I believe he even said there is no money anymore). obviously Gene Roddenberry was an anti-capitalist progressive, even if he jealously guarded the rights to Star Trek and made a lot of money off of it through Paramount Studios...

you nailed it...reminds me of the Republican politicians who said the "Soviet Union is the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States"...two years ago. someone please wake them up and bring them into the 21st century

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-02-13 20:17:29 +0000 UTC]

Ähh, yes....The Mafia(Morte Alla Francia Italia Anela - don´t get my with wrong spelling, its written from memory-.- it means: The cry of Itali, death to all French) is build from the mercanary "soldiers", the Don´s pay for defending ther land against Napoleons army(what was expectet soon), but he never came, and the soldiers found out, that they can also get ther money for not take over ther richt clients. The old slogan "Mercenarys - you must pay them to fight, and than, you have to pay them again for stop fighting"

That´s the history backround of the Mafia, what... means only the Iltian/Corsican organisation what uses this name. The others who are declered themselfes as "Mafia" are just see the word "sydicate" maybe as too boring, or complex.

Hah again my lack of historical animee facts

Never seen, just mentioned that pictures somewhere. 

Haha, again i can rule as the master of negativ thinking(yeah ok, maybe it´s not a feat, but soemone told me i should do what i can do best).

I think, Star Trek is more honest as the writers ever saw. They try to write down an relative perfect society, but in the cast shadows of that fiction, some kind of very realistic things was shown.

Society was isolated on spaceships and life the most of ther life there, or on colonys with nearly the same lifestyle. whole familys was stationed on warships, what in case of war will fight and possibly gets destroyed. Colonys all around teh universe was set without a backup in case of aggresive takeovers or plunder. This devidet, box stored society can´t have a democratic exchange, cause of the space between them and the only way to make communication is through military equipment(ha-ha-ha). All humans are a kind of ressorce, box-stored, calibrated and equalized without a chance to break out. 

It was a nice idea with that "there is no money anymore", but humans always need a value-count, no matter in which form, but money or obligations are needet for a society, bigger than 50 persons. So, ok, ther isen´t a stock market anymore, but the same old game goes still on. If i can force this colony of stupid aliens to build something, i can sell it on other aliens for a higher price and and and. And i can tell the Federation, that my way to build shiny new spaceships is 30% less cost intense in ressorces - at last in case of conflict, they WILL look in the other direction about my style of production. This - or the Fed isen´t ready to win even against small pirate fleets, no matter how much family-cruisers they send to the slaughterhouse. 

But......yeah you know....i just can´t help myself....

Hey i remember a famous Graphitti from Hamburg: Everybody is a socialist till he earns his own money

Huhuhu, don´t know what damage they can do to the human race IF they would be part of our reality:/

Unfortunally, against all voices they who cry on this words of bottomless stupidity, ther are enough people who would listen to such popolistic statements. We can´t help a race with a lions part of people who would follow teh most ruthless and shameless liar. But the opposit would be a agreement with the world view of cast-people, where the easy people would be used and thrown away like toilet paper. We could directly spawn them in retorte, give them steroides to keep tham strong, stupid and with a max livetime of 40 years(Chinese scientists had made an invention for someting like this, it´s biological based). The rest can have managment and research position, who is too stupid or criminal gets a downgrade and the same drugs as the Omega-cast. Sound wonderfull, didn´t it?:/

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-02-20 14:48:51 +0000 UTC]

the history of Cosa Nostra is very interesting. I believe the bad blood between the Sicilians and the French went back to the War of the Sicilian Vespers of 1282, when Sicily was ruled by Charles of Anjou. Charles wanted to build a French empire by taking out the Byzantines, and for that he needed a lot of money. so he taxed the crap out of Sicily, but wouldn't give them representation in his empire (like he did for Naples). this bleeding of money without anything in return was pissing off the Sicilians, and on Easter Sunday in Palermo, things came to a head. some French soldiers got drunk during the festivities, and started groping Sicilian women, and the Sicilian men killed them. word quickly spread to all Sicilians to kill all the French, and eventually the French were driven out

yeah, I've often wondered how Star Trek eliminates abuse of replicators, like "Computer...Caviar, Beluga, premium quality" over and over maybe it doesn't cost any more to replicate caviar than a Big Mac? btw regarding families on warships, that only came about on Star Trek: Next Generation, probably because Roddenberry realized that sending married Starfleet crew on a "five-year mission" into deep space without regularly returning to Earth or wherever their families are living was not going to work, and nobody would sign up for Starfleet except pimple-faced kids with wanderlust and sociopaths, or worse yet, the ships would go out with 100% crews and come back with 150% from all the kids being born in transit! notice that even with all the families on board Picard's Enterprise-D, it still made more return trips to Earth than Kirk's Enterprise did! oh, and the one time they were being pursued by who was it, the Borg? or was it Q? that they did transfer all the families into the main hull section, and detached the saucer section to turn around and fight while the main hull got away or something. impractical...without the main hull, the saucer section can't warp, so what's to stop the enemy from leaving the saucer section behind and going after the main hull instead? sometimes, I think Paramount could have seriously used a real military advisor before writing these scenarios...

sheesh, if they had the capability to manufacture people to taste, wouldn't the priority (and easier reach) be to eliminate the part of the brain that causes criminal behavior? so much wasted in life, property, time and effort in law enforcement...just make people stop being criminal! or if they're looking for strong, stupid, and with a 40 year warranty period, why not build robots, and make improved birth control for the flesh-and-blood humans so they don't over-reproduce themselves? seriously, we're already replacing factory workers with robots, but we haven't kept up in distributing the benefit of robot labor to all the people the robots displaced. also, sufficient birth control so we don't get into the vicious cycle of robots producing food for people, who make more babies, who need more robots to feed them, and so on

speaking of robot labor...with the decline of labor unions and the rise of self-driving cars, I predict the next thing to happen will be the replacement of garbage truck crews and taxi/limousine drivers. if that happens, those former garbage handlers and drivers have to be gainfully employed elsewhere, or compensated for the work the robots are doing in their place. see, this is the moral dilemma business leaders and politicians aren't thinking about...sure, just put robots in factories, they can do repetitive work over and over without error...whoops, now we have UNEMPLOYMENT problems (no duh). if we keep finding more and more things robots can do instead of people, what are people going to be doing to eat? I have yet to hear a political party anywhere come up with that answer, except for that one you mentioned that said why not just give everyone money. if we get enough robots out there, that might not be a bad idea...or better yet, free lodging and replicators for everyone! "Computer...roll of toilet paper...two-ply"

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-03-22 19:30:42 +0000 UTC]

I recherched only for a bigger understanding of the traditions of modern syndicates, so some older roots get´s loose for me;^^
Most of this wasn´t known for me, but Mafia wasen´t my "favorit" syndicate either
Much mre interesting was Triaden and Yakuza. Interesting to know is that all syndicates was born through repression, and specially the Yakuza here get´s a real charming picture....what....no Clan tries to carry on - but hah, at last ther is a interesting concept for RPG-charakters left^^

Yes, i understand this for minor problematic things, like luxurious food, but if all technicans can easily crack the security routines, why ther is so less drug abuse?
"Hey mister, your time budget for the holodeck is exaustet, and the "drugs, chicks and rock´n´ roll"-program is smoking. So, get now back to your sterile lifestile and work!". Sorry, i see ships full of crack heads......
A funny question: If i can build a holodeck what builds a reactor chamber, why not building a big one, and create a reactor and a holoemitter. This makes  another "picture", but mobile. The only source you need is energy to create a perpetomobile. You could project whole ships of self-inducing force fields, holding the energy in the needet lines o.O
Destroyed ships would just disappear xD
The same is for replicators. If i have a big one, i create ships of the dust of stars. 
But okay, they would have much less problem if they would realise that  sweet lillte nuclear weapon can make a beam as well as a helpless five men assault team......Perry Rhodan knows this many years before!
But this soldiers-with-family-in-mission sounds logically, not moralic but.....

I was so happy as i first saw the Deep Space Nine series, cause it was much darker, more realistic. People get hurt or die instead of this good old three-helth-level thing (fine/unconscious/out of scene...okay, charakter models like Kirk got an additional health level between fine and unconscious – ripped cloth xD

Haha, no, ST and tactics never meet. I always prefered Raumpatrouille Orion(black and white, but basically the same as the old Enterprise series, just.....cooler somehow^^). Ther are dirty secret services, treachery in the military and such. And the good guys kill bad guys instead of play the moralic). Oh, AND, ther are woman much more important that this phone secretary Ohura

Never call an adviser if you know the first advisement would be „Don´t do this, take this script to the paper junk and ride something usefull“ xD

Specially military advisors often lack of some sensitivity the film guys so addicted in

In basic good questions. But i would say, the distinction between criminal and nessecary behavior are the circumstandes. Would i kill a person? God no. But could i if i had to protect me or my friends – i don´t have doubt, even it possibly isen´t as easy as i would imagen(today).

So killing the criminal behavior is killing the skill to stay alive as a race. And all the modern aspects of psychopaths or other mental „deviations“ what aim for other human beings, are in the end a evolutionary reaction on too big societys without a working pack or herd function.

So i wouldn´t say it´s an disvantage rather than an evolutionary hint. Even...same victims may not have the luxury of this differentiated perspective. So this isen´t a statement to not fight against this outbreaks, but to see it in a context.

Hehe, in all storys i sooner or later came to the point that it is much more cheap and decentralized to use humans for workers or soldiers. The human is easy to manipulate if you don´t care for the lifetime, they automatically sychronise in big herds and – what may be a last good reason if it becomes incredably easy to produce good working robots – have a last thought for ther own survival. So, a giant robot spacefleet is easy to occupy, while soldier still will have an interest to stay on the suviving side and would mutiny, or resist against an occupation through higher officers. So, humans can work as kind of safety circuit.

And i use them as reasons to send more and more financial ressorces in a war. If just robots would fight in a universe for humans belongings, the core world, who never saw or even feel war wouldn´t spend money for something. Dead bodys on the other hands(it´s okay to use poor recruits from overpopulated exploited mine colonys, they have no use otherway) makes reasons to feel fear, and send more troops(more poor guys – that´s good for the economy, good for the society, and keeps the poor colonys from rebellion against the rich worlds).

In basic that´s the main problem with robots and humans, you not nessecary need war as an example, but it´s a good one i think. Robots are luxury goods and more expansive as humans, who even make babys on the most terrible conditions. So will always have more humans than robots. Many robots would start an reaction of humans who feel a treatment through antother „race“, and an reaction. It´s not a good situation for you if your race can just make babys in overspecialised factorys.

It´s kind of very two-edged benefit of SciFi-writers that all great visions of a good future can levered out with basic human behavior and function:/

Yes true. But as i say, i think ther will be an „immunoreactive“ from the human race at once. Yeah ther will be automatic infra structure systems, but electronic terror against them in the same curve as they gain importance. First as an human protection behavior, and second as a worth target for terrorism(finacial or ideologic). Robots as weapon can have its legitimation as long as you can fight against an bigger, fearsome enemy. But the humans will soon have more compassion with the bleeding soldiers in this war. Again the situation above, even without spaceships. Robots are a tool, but not a solution for our problems we have with or society at all. We can use them to make a final(and sure a real painfull) solution coming some years later but.....never stop them. Only way for that is killing all humans and let the robots do the rest.

Hah, you know people – they can have an dirty ass, but the first thing in mind is a roll of money, unregistred noumbers

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-31 14:27:43 +0000 UTC]

I had to look up the Triad, interesting how they started as Shaolin monks. and yes, the common theme appears to be oppression from government and/or being outcasts from society. looking up the Yakuza, apparently there is a stigma in Japanese society for those who work with death, like gravediggers (but surprisingly not doctors or priests), butchers (but again, not sushi chefs), and leather workers (this came as a bit of a surprise, since leather is an integral material for samurai armor), and these workers tended to flock to the Yakuza

Yakuza also have been better at responding to disasters than the Japanese government: in both the Kobe earthquake and the more recent Tohoku earthquake and tsunami, the Yakuza responded immediately, providing hundreds of truckloads of emergency supplies and opening up their facilities for refugees, long before the central government did anything. I remember when Japan Airlines flight 007 Boeing 747 with over 500 passengers went down in mountains back in the 1980s, American forces offered to immediately send rescue/recovery helicopters, and they were TURNED DOWN by the Japanese government who didn’t send their first helos until the next day. the Yakuza have a better reputation at taking care of people than the sluggish, somewhat incompetent central government

oh wow...Raumpatrouille Orion looks amazing! the music and hairstyles are so 1960s cool, and the female characters definitely seem important, just from looking at a few minutes of episode 1! that female general is absolutely hot...I get the feeling she’s one of the not-nice-person characters, but my goodness...I love strong women my German is so limited, but I get the feeling they’re sending Commander Maclain and the Orion on some deep space patrol for three years? and the female general is no fan of his, and thinks sending him off like that is a good idea, to keep him away from home? btw, that actor playing Maclain looks a little like a young Captain Kirk, too now the Orion itself...several major improvements over classic Star Trek’s Enterprise: 1. you can actually see the CEILING on the bridge (the grillwork looks a bit like a modern submarine’s); 2. when approaching for a landing, the Orion flares (tilts upwards) to slow down like a real airplane; and 3. work stations with lots of chrome knobs on the control panels, instead of a plethora of “idiot lights” on relatively tiny consoles the Enterprise had. finally, I like the hallway leading to the general’s office which lights up only when someone is walking through it, and the lights go off as soon as they enter the room...an eco-sensitive light system!

heh, the three stages of health except Kirk don’t forget the young officer with the red shirt, he only has two: alive and dead (it gives Dr. “Bones” McCoy the opportunity to look at Kirk and say “he’s dead, Jim” ). imagine the years of training and whatever-they’re-using-for-money to prepare one ensign for his one-way encounter with doom...what a waste. it’s always an officer, too...don’t they have enlisted personnel in Starfleet that do the dying? oh that’s right, they stand around dumbfounded while they get blasted by the Borg, or have heavy debris fall on them, those are the enlisted folks...in real life, a Ticonderoga class cruiser has about 11 enlisted per officer, while the more modern Arleigh Burke class destroyer has a bit over 7 enlisted per officer. still, I can’t imagine that on a starship, there is anything close to 1:1 enlisted to officer ratio, even with the ship’s computer doing much of the work

yes, context is important...what is the difference between criminal behavior and survival skills? the intent. criminal intent is undesirable, whereas the ability to fight, kill, steal, etc. are necessary for survival. it’s like how soldiers used to behave before they had international laws...the ability for controlled violence needs to be separated from rape and murder. there was a scene in the Lee Marvin movie The Big Red One where a reluctant soldier is talking to the sergeant (played by Marvin), and the soldier says he can’t murder anyone, to which the gruff sergeant replies, “We don’t murder, we kill.” there is a distinction...not in the First Commandment, mind you, but in a society based on laws...between murder and killing. to kill the enemy is not only sanctioned, but necessary for survival. to murder another human being is not only punishable by law, the intent is criminal, and must be eliminated

if by working pack or herd function you mean making sure there’s enough resources to prevent suffering, I agree. making sure everyone has gainful employment to provide for themselves and their families will eliminate the need for criminal behavior like theft and murder. this leaves only criminal intent, the willingness to commit crimes even when one has enough for survival without such behavior. another movie comes to mind, Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Running Man, where he was a cop and helo pilot who sees food riots...he refuses to fire on the rioters, saying “they just want food, for God’s sake” but he is framed for murdering them. thus, not having enough resources causes desperate people to commit criminal behavior...the hungry people try to steal food, and desperate leaders try to murder them to reduce the population. causing overpopulation by banning birth control while not providing enough jobs and resources is tantamount to criminal behavior (perhaps criminal negligence, even if the intent is not criminal), and such leaders should be held responsible

I agree, self-preservation, motivation, instincts, experience...these are all valuable traits in humans that robots don't have. Americans call that “having skin in the game”, having a vested interest in the outcome. I just happened to see an old Korean War movie on TV, Die Brücken von Toko-Ri, where a Navy pilot gets shot down in North Korea and is killed. contrast the emotional toll of that to the “outrage” over Iran jacking one of our unmanned recon drones and capturing it last year or so. we’ve lost plenty of drones around the world, but if one of our pilots gets shot down and captured or killed, all hell breaks loose. risking human lives takes a little more consideration, from both leaders and the warrior. even Kamikaze pilots in 2.WK weren’t always successful in crashing into enemy ships. such suicide attacks feel barbaric and desperate today, whereas a cruise missile feels nothing about sacrificing itself (and no next of kin gets bad news...as a matter of fact, it might be GOOD news to the manufacturer of the missile...replacement orders, ja?)

you know, that’s probably why Star Trek doesn’t have money replicate unregistered bills... maybe it would be more convenient to replicate a fistful of Krugerrands?

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-04-05 20:58:04 +0000 UTC]

Makes a good job in finding a „moralic“ piece in all of this societys – what is most interesting for roleplayers at last.

About the Yakuza(Ya-Ku-Za), its named through the worst possible hand you can have in a low-class card game. Such a strong class society like the japanese, what also includes religious and spiritual classes(so you can´t hope for a better up after death like europeans could in medivel times), makes it hard to find a place in live. And those who was born on the thin end of the street had nothing, no hope as well as no justice. And then, in a periode of another real arbitrarily kaiser, the people cryed loud for justice without this bad status ratings. That need was the birth of the Yakuza.

Really normal people, gambler, dirty craftsman and all those brought justice to the people who can´t expect this good from ther goverment. The regular proceed was, that a normal person went to the Yakuza and asked for help, then the head of the local Yakuza judged over this case and brought justice, for a small cost.

This respect under the normal people makes the Yak´s invulurable against goverments arm, cause noone reveal them to the hated goverments executive. After a while, whole areas fall under the protection of the Yakuza. This makes the society wealthy and influential. They now had a lot of training in organisation, so they grow, join together and establish a functional clan-beside-clan politics.

The original statement of the Yakuza don´t allow criminals to hunt under ther protected people, so a lot of simple pickpockets die through the syndicate. But well, ther is a first dark point, you need to be protected to gain this security. Today it may sound like extortion, but if the goverments help failed you need a helping hand, so you just can post this money under „taxes“. Nothing different was with many regions in europe or around the world.

The trick in acting with (true and traditional oriented) Yak´s is, they would never come to you, rob your house, steal something from you or treaten you in any way – you must make the first step. Go to ther prostitute, play in ther gambling houses or ask for revenge for a killed son, and you have to pay the price. This would make a good and solid pillar of the state.

Unfortunally, like all humans sooner or later, they give up ther great traditions one by one, deal with drugs or treat normal people(or much more forbidden – police men who not have made a crime, just making ther job). Ther this guys have become the same dirty criminals like those we call Mafia, Vory vy Zakone, Triades or all this other clubs.

Oh btw. Leather work was tricky in most cultures, at first through the incredible smell the tan and coloring of leather procuces. As someone who does this a long time, you never get away this smell. It´s liek always – the most luxurious colors and goods makes the most dirt. It´s the ability to pay with this lives all great societys name as a benefit.

You become, what you do. This could be a good simplification for this perspective in old Japan. And working with death is tricky then....

But till know, Japan not managed to kill all this, the peole see in the Yakuza tradition, so it´s not a crime to be a Yak´ in Japan, but in all other lands it´s simply a criminal society.

Hehe, yeah it was really cool. The studio never gave up th erights for the series, so maybe we will see a remake(...sometime i fear they could ruin it...).

Ah yes, she´s his direct boss, and McLains former instructor(and maybe kind of really really frustrated mentor). And ML is for sure the really Kirk-version of a commander, noone who would have a easy life in a functional fleet. He´s a cowboy, what makes it much more funny to write a story for him^^

The whole Orion bridge is still existing on a movie park and open for visitors, and yes, its more economically designed – even you have to look for your head in case of impact....

A lot of objects on the bridge are build of very simple things.....so old TV´s, plastic cups and EVEN A IRON was build in

Oh, exploding planets was solid with a crater what was filled up with dust, and this – in impact – was blown out with a hoover xD

And the alien spacecrafts on the screen was tacks on a glass surface, lightend from above so that they glow, and they gets moved by magnets – this guys was very imaginative this times....

That „He´s dead, Jim“-thing was so popular, and we still use it from time to time

Haha – sometimes i thought all job is done by the computer, and the driving officer for example has just a few buttons on his pannel: Start engines, stop engines, fly to the named coordinates“

And i imagen a academy with millions of officers, all looking forward to a irrelevant future with commanding an loading robot or something like that. So all places on Enterprise and equal famous ships are full to the top with people who need a special situation to show ther quality. This would explain why the Starfleet don´t have someting like Marines on board(just in a few episodes ther is something equal, but why not in heavy armor, decorated with tactical tools and such?

A pitty that i have some experience what shows that people can´t have enough of anything. Peope can´t get happy and sadisfied. Even we had enough to be happy, maybe even enough to be fat, this wouldn´t stop people, groups of peoples and lands from wanting more than other have, at last to be different in some way. Humans want to fight, and want to make ther lifes more secure, what means, another humans have to pushed back from ther borders as far as it gets. Maximum security means a maximum of advantage against all others who could decide to attack you, and how this looks from ther position i don´t have to tell.

Fighting is a basic part of evolution, if we would stop, we would die out, cuase we had to kill all will to anything for that goal.

The only solution for a „united“ world is oppression through a mighty hand. If all people gain ther daily food, work and entertaining – you just have to kill the few who wants to break out of this system, on positiv disires, like for equality or freedom, or on on negativ desires like greed, hunger for might or insanity.

This the movie sketches, if i open the camera window that far that i can see the whole world and not just this scenario.

The sad fact is, we have the technology to feed all people on earth. But not the unity between the peole. We can(relativly cheap) sporn seaweed what gives all needet elements of food for a week in only the dried space of a spoon – but this not even would stop hunger in Africa, cause of the systems, the supporters, the radical elements and not at last – the people who hunger.

Africa is a good example for the problem(cause it´s so popular – cause it´s on a lot of posters). We build fountain, we build schools, we gave agricultural equipment and knowledge. And all of this goods are wasted. The tractors was used till they get damaged, and instead of a repair the owner stole another one. People kill people, just cause it´s more easy than think a second about something new. We, specially europeans, ruins a lot of cultures there through our colonisation, but even all others only copy our worst behavior and intermeshed them with ther own worst behavior.

Oh, i found that memory, think it is very good as argumet too. A German hare breeder was requested from North Korea to make a concept against the food lack. The prized „product“ of the breeder was the „German giant“(the name is program), and can be breed very easy. So he get payed for his animals and travel with them to NK. He gets invited to a big reception dinner with important people of the goverment. Guess what was the dinner? All of the hares(about 200) gets killed, cocked and on the table

Sometimes i anger that all humans on earth needs an IQ-up of 30 points to at last have a slight chance to get even someting like unity:/

American PR can´t be more worst these days, but suprisingly, all few month the goverment came out with another big thing what tops the last.....

What remindes me on a comparison of a politican cabaret i really like, he spoke of the dialectic of war. He say „It is funny that people, who drop aimed bombs from 11.000 meters, are heroes, while peole who fight with most easy tools against an, in noumber and technology massiv superior enemy, are gutless“.

So we agreed in the lions part.

It´s such a pitty that ther are no simple enough solutions, that you can start it with whole mankind.....

Hmmmm, i see a lot of puberty Starfleet budding tech officers generates trading goods to exchange it on the next planet against solid money and alien prostitutes.

Also a way to make a good jump from military service to private sector xD

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-04-12 14:57:06 +0000 UTC]

well, considering the shortcomings of the government, I can see where Yakuza are a necessity for the day to day needs of society that aren’t being met by an indifferent government bureaucracy.  but since the rise of business conglomerates, the Zaibatsu (that were technically done away with by the post-2.WK constitution under the guidance of the American governor, General MacArthur) have evolved into the super-corporations that form another pillar of society.  the problem with this pillar is that unlike either the government or the Yakuza, they couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ about the people, only in the profits for themselves.  this makes the super-corporations a somewhat dangerous pillar, because while they provide employment for thousands of people and generate tax revenues for the government (and probably the Yakuza), they suffer from the same ills that plague the other pillars: money is power, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

both the government and the corporations suffer from bureaucratic “bloat” that makes them indifferent to the plight of the average citizen, which is the arena the Yakuza seem to excel at.  unfortunately, like you said, when the Yakuza suffers from bureaucratic indifference, it translates into physical crimes like drugs and violence.  at least the government’s indifference results in neglect or unjust incarceration (since Japan doesn’t have to worry too much about starting wars anymore), and corporate indifference results in dangerous products, pollution, etc.  thus, of the three pillars, I think it is this that generates the most fear among the ignorant masses...government and corporate “mismanagement” can be exposed by the media, resulting in scandals, investigations, that sort of thing you can just watch on television and shake your head at.  when the Yakuza “mismanages”, it can be a decidedly dangerous situation for the unaware...

oh I see, so the female general was McLane’s mentor?  that explains a lot  yeah, he does seem like a cowboy type (I suppose it takes king-sized balls to take a starship into deep space).  I’ll have to watch more episodes, so I can see some of the conspiracies you mentioned...

your descriptions of the special effects reminded me of when my dad used to talk about the old Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon shows he grew up watching.  I saw a few episodes of Flash Gordon (1930s vintage)...oh gawd...when the spaceships fly across the sky, they have flames shooting out the back but make a buzzing and popping noise like high voltage electricity, and the ship models tend to wobble all over the screen like the models are hanging off of puppet strings

yeah I’ve noticed that...Star Trek is more like the 18th-19th century, when Navy sailors tended to land in boats, and the few Marines tended to fight on the ship.  I suppose Roddenberry did that so that Captain Kirk and his officers would be in the landing party, and not a bunch of Marines like nowadays, but it certainly doesn’t make much sense (the one time Captain Picard went on a commando mission against Cardassians wearing all black attire, it didn’t go well...”THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!”  )

they cooked all 200 hares the breeder brought? incredible...oh wait, I know, rabbits are born in holes in the ground, so if you plant the bones, new hares should sprout from the ground by summer it reminds me of a story about English engineers building a well so a village could get fresh water to drink (can’t remember where that was...probably Sudan?).  after the English left, the villagers promptly filled in the well with dirt, because the local leaders didn’t want to be corrupted by English influences, and they went thirsty

the problem with the spoonful of seaweed powder for food is that there is a reason why humans eat food...teeth, jaw muscles, gastro-intestinal system all depend on a certain amount of solid food (of course, the appendix is a relic of a time when people used to eat food straight off the ground without washing, cooking, etc.).  back in the ‘90s they used to talk about the beef vat, a large container inside which one would grow protein mass, the equivalent of an entire cow’s worth.  it was supposed to solve the world’s food problem.  the problem was, I guess it depended on stem cells, and politicians who were uncomfortable with cloning and stem cell research (based on religious beliefs) made it nearly impossible in America.  yet, just the other day, I heard about the breakthroughs in bioprinting using a 3D printer and stem cells to replicate organs...the stem cells can come from the bone marrow in the patient’s thigh bone.  if that’s the case, then couldn’t they use cow stem cells from their substantial bones to bioprint meat on demand? that’s the closest thing to a food replicator I think we’ve got, and it’s reality now! outside of the printer and the computer system and software driving it, the only material cost would be cow bone marrow (and you wouldn’t have to kill the cow to get it, and a healthy cow should grow more bone marrow...it beats recycled food a la Judge Dredd )

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-04-13 01:09:30 +0000 UTC]

You´re absolute right. I like the basic idea, but as you say, it´s only the name left. Today it possibly has the last corner that it is some kind of nationalistic monument, so i know that about ´80 and ´90 the people in Tkyos streets at last are a little happy that the Yakuza coordinates crime a little bit. A pitty that these guys could have a moralic place even in our world today, but sell it away for a few bugs, like everyone else too....

For japan people it must be always a bit more dangerous-.-

A land that overexhaustet so much in war and than in traditional lifestyle, not possible to conect to other societys lifestyles, was tricky to build up again. And maybe you will use some

brittle bricks too to rebuild your house. Damn, i didn´t had gone so deep into that materia now....my little sister has married and make her honeymoon flight to Japan just.....

Noone can hate McLane so much as a peron who really know him xD

Think it was cool to really intermesh the nationalitys of the crew, you could have fun with the „new“ crewmember he gets.

I really like this „equal“ feeling of the crewmembers, ther aren´t sexistic jokes or something, and in the opposit no female officers who would burst into tears about it.

Wuhuhuhuh – that´s creeeeepy. Think i have seen some pictures about this „wooden“ times of SciFi.

It´s a little bit embarrassing, but yeah – i´m a graphic whore. I suffer while watching all too bad effects and graphics, its facile, but true:/

Think it´s a poor proceeding of the story writers of the Kirk.series, and maybe all later wirters have to conceal this painstakingness more or less

Huh, increadible idea O.O

Planting hares.......damn, that makes sense....somehow....

Yes, sometimes i watch problem-regions and must say – that´s the way the people like it. Don´t know why but....i don´t have to understand everything....

Africa is such a example, even without the western influences who exploit the people. The people gain trackors, seeds and all the technical support they need. But they don´t want to learn how to repair it. And if one tractors gets broken, taking the neighbours one.

If everyone have enough to eat, and nevertheless it ends next year with a machete, standing in the neighbours house – it possibly must be a problem of that people, not of the circumstandes.

Hmm, the most people with big hunger problem either way eats just tasty tasy mud-like stuff. But the can be used in some variations, also in bread(with creepy green skin and killa-nutritious). Yeah people are quick in refusing solutions, but on the other hand the corpration who commercialize such ideas have no moralic or even strategic doubts to research function of the product in human market testing. So, that´s the point i would refuse it too. Cause i can´t imagen that the technologie is proven enough before thrown on the market. That....just wouldn´t fit to my study of the markets.

About that stem cell thing, i see some good reasons against an open research-run on all bound technologys. You know why. For sure, someone would make the dirty research netherless, but it will need a little more time if it can only be made with low ressorces(cause a forbidden market means no earnings=no research-run).

But another funny thing – grown cells can be forced to become a stem-cell again. This opens creepy doors. And in this research line we found out, that all cells are organisms for ther own. A bio-generator-evolved heart-cell-cluster, feed through broth, begun to pump(with no direction, just in a „instinct“-reflex. I think that´s a real hard bone to chew for the religious guys

I still planed to have „space pigs“ in my story, containers of 3x3x6 meters with a life support system. A seperated box with organs can be detached, and voila – the flesh is ready to harvest. No bones and just a tiny tiny brain. My main charakter will have a hard struggle to keep ther appetite xD

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BasileusIoannis In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-05-01 07:31:33 +0000 UTC]

oh really, your little sis is having her honeymoon in Japan?   congratulations to her, it sounds nice...and quite a long trip!  I just saw a program on Japanese television about the old capital of Kyoto, and I’m amazed at how many Gai-jins (foreigners) were visiting.  one man actually lives there, and runs a tea house with tables and chairs instead of tatami mats...apparently, with the influx of foreigners in the late 19th century, a dedicated style of tea ceremony was created with tables and chairs to cater to foreigners   I hear the cherry blossoms are in bloom right now, and it’s not too hot yet, so it’s an excellent time to visit

yeah, I could really appreciate that progressive behavior of women in Orion.  even growing up American, the sexism in classic ST was irritating...improved quite a bit in Das nächste Jahrhundert (loved the first security officer, LT Tasha Yar...tough as nails, with an interesting back story...her first encounter with the sexist Ferengi was hilarious! )

oh, you too?   I wasn’t as bad as some of my friends about “unrealistic” spacecraft with engines constantly burning (like the Colonial Vipers in the original Kampfstern Galactica), but my pet peeve is cheesy explosion effects in more recent television shows...if you can see through the flames, and while the actors are throwing themselves to the ground as if reacting to shock waves but objects lying around aren’t affected by the same shock waves, I tend to emit a “boooo!”

ah, yeah...I could go on for days about why the Church would be opposed to cloning (and probably pi$$ off half the world in the process it’s not so much that it’s a sin to “play God”, it has more to do with undermining credibility in the whole afterlife and God system if souls didn’t really exist).  but I digress...if stem cells create muscle cells, and we consume too much of such “manufactured” meat, will it affect the DNA of the consumer?   the old saying goes, “you are what you eat,” but you can eat normally butchered beef all your life and you won’t grow a tail or cloven hooves.  also, is it inhumane to “manufacture” such meat?  I doubt it, if said meat lacks a cerebrum so doesn’t gain memories.  like your “space pigs”, it is merely a collection of living flesh that can be harvested, like potatoes or grain.  but most humans who find such “manufactured” meat offensive will have no qualms about hacking a cow’s head off to eat its flesh...hence we have vegans

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BasileusIoannis [2014-09-11 03:28:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah - somehow she managed to have all things quite perfect around her wedding - now she´s prepared for a devasting daily life xD

Hehe, yes, even the good old Japan is adjusted to the western culture. First through knowledge, followed by force, and money in the hindsight...
Oh yes, think he told me about the cliche^^ But hey, she´s a real manga girl - what could fit better
With her glowing orange hear she maybe looked liek a pop culture japan girl....i remember that japan television has a crew in our town and they saw my GF(on her way back from work, in post office uniform and with "classical" (2)braids) as well as my sister(at work on pastry shop) - and both got instant the attention of the lense xD

Tasha..yes, i rememer. I wondered about something i can´t really grab, today i would say it was the extrem way the charakter was played. She was tough, but fragile the same way - as she wouldn´t be that hard a longer time. Think it was the role. This progressivity was missing a bit. The Bajoran girl in Deep Space Nine was made much better, still a bit social reflex-heavy bit...better. 
For some reason i first mentioned now that Perry Rhodan was a German series o.O
Till now i know the first 31 books, and always wondered why girls don´t have a role here....that´s anoying. They exist, they are liberated, but they don´t want anything, don´t say anything, and if one girl becomes even a bit important - you can be shure she´s dead within at last a half book-.-

OMG -  it went that far that i have problems if i read about bad designs:/ I had a book from an good author the last time, and the story was nice, cool ideas and such stuff...but the designs AAARRGGGHHHH!! So painfull.....
Oh and..that items are designed to be in use on a battleship in sapce, isen´t it logical that they are build accident-save? With magnetic reactive parts that makes them in-movable if ships activates combat-ready status. 
(That makes 50 Dollar consulting fees for the producers of the series xD)
But so i try to create all this effects i want, and think, that they are logical, in my story....i hope i didn´t exaggerate it

God yes, and it has become tradition to be against it..who would want to blame the former - bad instructed - speakers......
Hmm, it´s not the meat at it that may be the problem, but the parts of the interacting genes we don´t understand today....most...cause it´s not very interesting or easy to research this reactions. And sometimes i think mankind starts to fear the next answear they may get....
At the moment it´s to expansive to use stem cells for such products, we had to deliver all the "food" in an bioreactor what forms the muscle - it´s way more easy to use a "carrier" what has best attributes to grow fast, eat eaven waste, be resistant to illnesses, need not so much space and and and. Think it´s a hard way till pigs find ther economic ending. Fish is the only interesting thing, the life in an 3D-area what is very cheap, and can transform very simple food into more fish. 
Yepp, things may be bloody, inhuman or stupid..but it´s proofed! xD
And the same way people do stupid thing just cause it has worked a long time, other people try to be different, just to be different, not peacefull, humanly or smart. Vegans just fear to be not special enough, i often think(and 99% of them i know aren´t special...in any way...). 

Sorry for the long waiting for response....my writing ability is....fluctuate..at best times  vs. 

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