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Conception for a super heavy main battle tank of the Theiden nation. As one of the rare heavy vehicles they not count on speed and maneuverability it playes a main role on the few ground borders of the island nation. Designed to stand against technological weaker enemys with a lot of armoured metal it has active and passive armor, primary on the front. The MFB weapon(Magnetischer-FeldBeschleuniger(Magnetic-Field-Accelerator) - developers name "Lightning" for obvious reasons) is in basic a usual railgun, but instead of a solid projectile it creates a electromagnetic field in a chamber with fine metal particles, what induce the field, and the field turns the particles, so that it is stable for a few short seconds of flight. In this seconds, the cannon spits out a devasting plasma bolt, what delivers extrem heat and a compressively EM-field. Enemy sensors, antennas and other electronic devices than gets destroyed at best, or more worse, become a explosiv. Infantery must stay back and close communication to not gain damage from this dangerous weapon, so it is limited sight on the battlefields, but a warranty to be an dangerous enemy even for higher tech level enemys. 
Instead of the smaller multipurpose turret on top of the tanks main turret, this version have an microwave weapon for infantery control and to "prepare" some kind of harmless targets for fire from the main weapon.
Simple lunchers are distributed over the tank, to fire anti-infantery grenades, IR-active smoke or heat decoys.
Beneth them, some APZ´s grant that no infantery will come to close to the tank. 
Even if the tank is a nealry unbrekable island of firepower, the diverse enemys of Te´iden can bring much more vehicles and men to the battlefield they can fatigue even this ruler of the ground combat. 
Crew is about 4, or 3 if it was necessary to replace the, statiticaly better trained, elfish, dwarfish or human crew with minotours. Space through the backdoor, isolatet from the tank cockpit, is for 6 soldirs or 3 minotour size soldirs. Body is hardent and isolated against the often heavy radiation, toxic gasses or biological attacks. 
Drive is powered by a chemical reaction system.

Front:
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Side:
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Weapons:
150mm MFB cannon
22 APZ´s
"Buschfeuer" microwave weapon
10x4 multi purpose launcher

Dimensions

Lenght: 10,3m
High(total): 4,5m
High(Chassis): 2,9m
Width: 5,4m

Fix rules will follow
Oh and - i did all stucures by my own
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Comments: 24

Wolfwood-Extreme [2015-03-29 00:53:47 +0000 UTC]

Wait. Minotaurs. In a tank. Dude, NICE.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to Wolfwood-Extreme [2015-04-04 19:20:34 +0000 UTC]

Yes^^ The world is a post apo version of a original fantasy RPG, in which Minotours, Orcs and Elven are relatively balanced in mind and body(Minos are stronger, Elven are more dexterious and live just 120 years instead of 90 etc.). But all have the same mental potential.
Depending on area different races dominate the higher, worker and warrior castes. 

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miha9000 [2014-03-16 20:47:52 +0000 UTC]

added to 3D concepts in Sci-fi Archives  sci-fi-archives.deviantart.com…

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NikitaTarsov In reply to miha9000 [2014-03-18 12:34:29 +0000 UTC]

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mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-11 01:35:08 +0000 UTC]

whats the armor on this? i see what looks like slat armor as well as what could be applique armor

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-11 01:52:06 +0000 UTC]

"Designed to stand against technological weaker enemys with a lot of armoured metal it has active and passive armor, primary on the front"

As a design of people who has rail, laser and some even more wierd weapons, they at first aim for a smart material armor what can take hits from most of this exspected weapons. For the "easy" stuff flying around(speak: grenades with simple warheads, up to shaped charges) it has a ablativ hardening on the front side to reduce repair costs and expand lifetime(enemys are technological nuubs, but build WW2-like landcruisers(little bit better maybe) with nasty big weapons on top).

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-11 02:15:05 +0000 UTC]

how about plasma weapons?

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-11 02:37:18 +0000 UTC]

On the armor you mean? The ablativ armor wouldn´t take much heat(if we talk about an effectiv weapon), but it would be worth to loose them, casue it must be an eye-level enemy, in technological perspective. Tanks body will for sure have a good derive of thermal energy(slow taking and quick emission). But plasma weapons are tricky to explain if you really want to pierce through solid armor. 
The Lightning gun is so far a plasma cannon, just with some physical explanations(what is a SciFi term for "excusses"), and not the best to pierce through armor, cause the gas surly will have a stable flight through its semi-supercavitating effect through atmosphere but, you would need such amazing speed in the gas, that it has kinetic energy instead of just thermal. Like a tomato becomes armor piercing if fired fast enough(without atmosphere, for sure, other way it´s just a funny noise and dirty smell), hte gas must be fast enough that the metall can´t moce, and teh gas, as particles also can´t deflect from the solid object. And now we still talking about molecular friction - very unrealistic, even for SciFi. So i focus on that self-induced field, what is more tricky to refute xD

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-11 02:46:36 +0000 UTC]

well i figure a directed continuous beam would generally have more AP, while an explosive pulse would direct less energy in punching through and more into a big explosion
dont know what effect that would have though frankly, depends on target
not that id target you/your tank

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-13 15:27:53 +0000 UTC]

Plasma beams would have an amazing energy need, while bolts would take advantage of the quick acceleration the most projectile weapons work with. In this case kind of railgun. The pulse through the rail comes with the speed electricity can make, additional through some final pull at the barrels end(look at the Gauß-curve, the weapon theory is basically named after(Gauß-cannon)), so the acceleration is uprising, instead of a constant flux. Such a flux is possible for sure, but this would need a peristalsis working of the magnetic field - higher energy cost(what so not can be spend to accelerate) and just a constant, not uprising acceleration curve. And for sure, it woul dbe really tricky to design the EM field a way that it woulnd´t destroy the field that is part of the projectile(if my ammo-type would be the example).

By the way, i think the armor would contain Aluminiumoxid and Borcarbid, first is great against heat effects and kinetic impacts, while second has also very good properties in this direction and a neutron control effect, what could be, under correspondingly electric charge, can negate too high grade tech wepons or at last lower ther effect.

If we would find a (even some hoe explainabe) way to feed a constant beam with enough energy, or create it of the right ion charge, we shurly could use the molecular friction effect to pierce through every existing matter even without harm them. It would so just be a bridge to pump energy from the own energy sorce directly into a target at all. But that´s dizzy hardcore SciFi. I try to be as solid as the thematic let me

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-13 16:06:22 +0000 UTC]

rail and gauss use two separate techs, rails and electromagnetic coils. but the forces shouldnt destroy the projectile though some of the projectie body will "burn" away in flight under certain conditions to form a big tail of plasma

the armor sounds good, i would assume its sectioned into tiles instead of a giant slab?

well i know about that, frankly last plasma cannon i made would simple have damage about the same as a tank gun firing a HEAT shell

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-14 15:27:12 +0000 UTC]

All magnetic acceleration weapon go back to the mathematical and physican work of Gauß. So Gauß are just another name for all magentic based weapon systems, and i think he´s worth to name him. But it´s okay to make a difference between the single concepts what base on different other scientists further work, like rail or coil(even they are not that basic in it´s work to give ther names).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilgun

That´s another idea, but very depending on atmospheric conditions(what in case of my tanks world can be really different(post apocalyptic wastlands and such)). I use a field instead of a solid projectile to bypass some problems. Through its less desity and high thermal energy the "projectile" can get much higher speed, and so induction = stabilisation, as well as real kinetic energy. 

Yeah, it shouldn´t shatter at once and take advantage through the slow acting mass of a metall grid. Some kind of Chobam armor, just with little differences for little divergent porpose.

Yes, i agree that it´s real tricky to bring some imba super mighty things in play. I just create a reson for the use of plasma weapon instead of simple grenades while having a similar effect and get much more stability to a fictional world(s)

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-14 16:31:34 +0000 UTC]

two separate ones with separate principles frankly

i believe with chobham its sectioned so one "tile" of the interior ceramic can take a hit and leave the rest intact

my plasma cannon is more of a prototype weapon, even based details on the design of the old whittle jet engine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Whi…
but its not the only DEW of my setting, there's lases, lightning, and particle beam weapons too but they're larger more heavy weapon roles, and often bolstered with more traditional weaponry like autocannons and even recoilless rifles

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-18 14:42:21 +0000 UTC]

Bread is bread no matter which flavor

Jepp, some of the materials of Chobam are not gasing, rather than just decompose, this takes the kinetic energy of a energy weapon - even today this isen´t such a big reason for the material. Got to know how good we´re prepared for alien invasion xD(if we would chamber the material in vacuum, for sure....)

Hmmm, sounds unpractical. Needs constand food and just make s a big torch. Sounds like a huge-size-zombie-defense weapon. But the heavy weapon role makes sense - as long as the targets economise this weaponary. For big wars, economic warfare and handy weaponary, i think, relativly simpel projectile weapons(like ours today) makes the most sense. But sometimes.....it has it´s need to sound just cooler
American military(for example) would spend billons of dollars for a useless laser weapon, but not a  few bugs for a AR that rocks(last, but not least, seen on the XM8 process:starre - Same is for designers of a fictional world.....hate to feel forced sometimes copy real world idiotism to stay authentic, belivable:/

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-19 16:53:06 +0000 UTC]

the boon of laser is no need to carry ammo
how many rounds does it take a CIWS to kill an incomming ASM

as for my plasma cannon, it generates a toroid of plasma and accelerates it as well as compresses it into a big bolt of plasma which is contained with a magnetic guidence system as its propelled forward at a mach or two
but again, its supplemented with autocannons like the bofors and even autoloading recoilless rifles as well as 155mm HEDP missiles and anti-ship missiles as well, and im planning a 90mm cannon aswell

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-03-21 18:25:16 +0000 UTC]

A questionable boon, today lasers have much bigger batteries(at first in whight but also in size) than every Gatling phalanx can burst away in solid ammo. So far its more economically to use gatlings. But for the future it will be a big question how electronic warfare will evolve. A laser with, let´s say, equal need of space than an gatling and an small sized battery can make the job much more precise. Even a AA-phalanx needs a good spred to hit the target in flight, but a laser have no time delay to the target. So pointet shots would be great, but it´s to expect that the enemy have some functional, or equal level ECM tech, what blurs the exact spotting of an target. 

American military evolution atm is aiming for a combat situation against an much less equiped enemy - who in fact no where exists. Russian or chinese(to ride some popular fictions) military have the same ECM/ECCM tech level than American, russian in special cases - better. So all the new tech is made for the past century.

Ah, so we are not that different with our technologys^^
Guidance field is, i think, the first i would imagen the enemy would generate an protecting "distrubtions field" against. So the more physical weapons still have its legitimation, and i think further, they will have this till the end of warfare. Anyone will still have a use for it, maybe as cheap weapon, or as backdoor against an technologically evolution what is blind aiming at the most cool future energy weapon and shielding. Noone can protect against everything, at last not economically. Good i think, other way future warfare could get very boring soon xD

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-23 15:58:49 +0000 UTC]

oh i get ELINT and ECM, actually need to make some stuff of that for my ship
but generally ASMs arent made to be stealthy unless hugging the water and jinking around help there, though those aspects are to hide/protect it from the CIWS

the field may cancel the reach of the guidance, but there's still the explosive bolt of doom heading at the target
but generally, plasma weapons of my setting would hit with power similar to HEAT rounds because its easy enough to look up the effects of a HEAT impact and easier to conceive fairness in something when i can be paralleled to something existing

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NikitaTarsov In reply to mythril-blackpaw [2014-05-02 14:31:24 +0000 UTC]

Always a question of enemy electronic warfare power. I try to keep this more....carefully, before i get down in economic thinking - cliche german thinking xD

The bolt still comes with an incredible speed, and the unrelieved resistance of the atmospheric particles will still be an solid wall, specailly in that single moment the guidance field get´s off. 
Yeah it´s tricky to balance situations if ther is much more effectivness than a regular round. I just would give some explanations why this system is more popular than the (more easy to produce and not working with so much volatile energy) simple smoth barrel cannon. 
I did this with the big arm manufactors they rule the weapon market with ther shield systems(effective against energy weapons only) and plasma weapons. Both systems can be raised in small variations and so make an "new and best" product for the comming year. God, i hate economics so much.....

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mythril-blackpaw In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-05-02 15:09:05 +0000 UTC]

there's always  cleaning a path with a laser pulse, that's what the bolos do with the hellbore cannons

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Andecaya [2014-03-11 00:21:00 +0000 UTC]

Boah! Der is sooooo cool!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to Andecaya [2014-03-11 01:29:38 +0000 UTC]

Das von dir zu hören is´ ein echtes Plus

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Andecaya In reply to NikitaTarsov [2014-03-11 13:10:34 +0000 UTC]

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Vir-Norin [2014-03-10 23:23:44 +0000 UTC]

Very cool design

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NikitaTarsov In reply to Vir-Norin [2014-03-11 01:29:12 +0000 UTC]

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