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Description What would you think, Anders, if you knew Hawke still imagines you smiling?

Oh crap wait, my comments are usually funny.... I TRUSTED YOU, ORSINOOOOOOOO~~~~~~~.

And uh, everyone else there! (THAT WORKS OUT GREAT BY THE WAY.) Hawke, you better be one of a kind, because every other mage in the world is a fuckup. I'm sorry.

Malcolm teachin' Bethany how to use magic... how nice of him.

I wanted Anders to look really crazy fried/starved at this point (poor guy ), but unfortunately, he sort of just came out looking like Dr. House instead. (GET ME MY VICODINS IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES JUSTICE GO AWAY.)

Malcolm had arm hair because he was a MAN. A manly, hairy man. Why the hell didn't your son get any? When Hawke takes off his shirt, he looks precious girly smooth.

Also, Bethany gets different hair since her normal hair seems too... styled, you know?

This page kinda... whatever. I always have a hard time drawing characters I haven't really drawn before. It takes me a while to get comfortable with them in my style, and I definitely have not drawn Anders and Merrill enough yet. But this will help! (Also it's another one of those "get me to the next one, it's the next one I want to doooo!" pages so... it has suffered accordingly.) Also it's like... gah. Artist curse. If I'm drawing people I'm like "waahhh I wish I were doing backgrounds" and when I'm doing backgrounds I'm like "WAAHHHHHH why am I doing these stupid backgrounds; I want to do people." Fussy, fussy.

It took me a long long long time to figure out how to FIT all these people onto one page in a logical and non-stupid way without it being crowded. I think it works okay. I'm excited to do the next page though. CONFLICT, IT IS MY NECTAR.

Edit: This page has been revised to... suck less. Yep.


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Copic multiliners, white gel pen, Copic markers, and pencil.

Fenris, Hawke (c) Bioware
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Comments: 39

Tofiam [2014-04-27 18:47:12 +0000 UTC]

You know, I trusted Orsino too - but don't you see?! It's just an act of a despair! He was under press for too long!Like all the mages! Let's start a riot, LET'S START A RIOT! *turn to Justice*
By the way, wonderful comic.  

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gatumon89 [2014-01-02 22:55:28 +0000 UTC]

ah so it was hawke saying this ^^

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Jocstarbunny [2012-06-25 14:38:30 +0000 UTC]

I still think the orsino boss battle didn't need to take place... I always thought he was above that crap and kinda charming and then at the end there I had this whole WTF?!?! face on...

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IceFarie [2012-05-04 01:38:30 +0000 UTC]

wow that first line in your comment section literately broke my heart. Like. Totally. I missed it the first time I read this comic, but, wow. Wasn't expecting that. I think I'm going to go cry now.

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AmandaKitswell [2011-06-26 00:22:28 +0000 UTC]

Wow. You drew everyone really well, in ways I haven't seen yet. I love it!

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chibilombax [2011-05-19 10:13:38 +0000 UTC]

lol vicodin and kitties that's the cure to spirit possession apparently XD lovely job though on everything

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Aroihkin [2011-05-14 17:38:50 +0000 UTC]

You know Anders has a hole hollowed out in a stack of "manifestos" for his vicodin. That's why he puts copies of the manifesto everywhere, so that no one will want to touch that pile!

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Kaytara [2011-05-11 20:15:37 +0000 UTC]

Gack! Anders is so scary here! It's the cheekbones... So gaunt and haggard!

Anyway, amazing work, as always. I particularly like how Merrill looks a bit more mature (which she would be, by that point).

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notationn In reply to Kaytara [2011-05-12 04:57:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! I was trying to make Anders and Merrill both look more "Act III"-y... older and a bit less 'smooth'. It didn't totally work out like I wanted, but at the same time, it was good practice for next time. I especially need to draw Anders more. He's a good character too, just not the one I chose for Hawke!

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patsedi [2011-05-11 19:38:10 +0000 UTC]

At first sight I thought your Bethany would be Aveline, but a think it's just the pose.

Your absolutly right about Orsino, didn't expect that, how dare he! I really wonder why Kirkwall is that full of blood mages, is there a spawning source or someting oO

And your Vicodin vs. Justice theory is a nice idea

Btw: Did I miss the part in the game were you are told, why her father is dead? Always wonder what happend to him...

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notationn In reply to patsedi [2011-05-12 05:01:19 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's probably the face shape... but I wanted a Bethany who looks more like a sister to my Hawke. (I wanted them to fit together, stylistically.) It does mean she got a stronger jaw/face though....

The Codex talks a lot about why there are so many blood mages/demons in Kirkwall (as does the evil tomes quest, a little bit). Apparently it's because so much blood magic was used there and so many slaves died, it weakened the barrier between the Fade and the normal world. More of that info should have been in the game dialogue, though, not just the codex!

And no, you're not told why Malcolm is dead. I wondered that too! At the same time, it's a bit more interesting to decide for yourself what happened to him.

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Rana-E [2011-05-11 17:38:20 +0000 UTC]

Poor all of them

That really breaks my heart how every mage is really messed up in this story.

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notationn In reply to Rana-E [2011-05-13 23:22:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's so sad! Even the ones trying to do good end up doing more evil.... Merrill's might be the saddest, I think.

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Zara-Arletis [2011-05-11 13:25:12 +0000 UTC]

Poor Anders. Poor Merrill! This page reminds me of just how messed up every mage you meet is. Even the ones from the side quests - blood mages, helpless apostates, and headcases all. Damn. Looking forward to the next page!

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notationn In reply to Zara-Arletis [2011-05-11 13:38:25 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I get that they were trying to make it a little more complicated than "waahh wahhh poor mages and the big bad Templars" but they ended up overcompensating.... There aren't many good mages at all!

Next page I can get back to characters I like drawing more, haha. I have no problems with these people but I think Orsino is the only one I have any real interest in drawing. I guess Anders too, but if I drew him again, I'd want it to be more angsty. (Angst is fun!)

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Zara-Arletis In reply to notationn [2011-05-11 14:45:58 +0000 UTC]

I agree. I think in an effort to make it hard to see mages as merely victims they landed a little too firmly on the "mages are all kinds of messed up" side.

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notationn In reply to Zara-Arletis [2011-05-11 15:02:47 +0000 UTC]

This really hit hard in the Act III "Best Served Cold" quest where some blood mages WHOM I HAD SAVED come back to wreck up my shit. What the ffff?

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Zara-Arletis In reply to notationn [2011-05-11 15:34:27 +0000 UTC]

I ran into the same thing the first time through. I was like, WTF?!?!? They make sure you get royally screwed by magic at every turn. Test your resolve and all that. Suffice to say, I thoroughly enjoyed my second playthru as pro-Templar.

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notationn In reply to Zara-Arletis [2011-05-12 04:52:48 +0000 UTC]

I've played the pro-Templar ending a few times (including on playthroughs where my primary ending was pro-Mage, since seriously, save and reload! A great thing about games) and honestly, in a lot of ways, it seems pretty reasonable from Hawke's point of view. I just wish it were more interesting if you were also a mage, since you can even legitimize that with self-loathing. I mean, seriously. Almost EVERY mage you meet is mindlessly evil or tries to kill you for almost no reason.

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bukittyan [2011-05-11 13:09:48 +0000 UTC]

Hawke and Bethany were the only sane mages, weren't they? Well and Keeper Merethari, but then...

I trusted Orsino too! Why, Orsino, why?

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notationn In reply to bukittyan [2011-05-11 13:34:59 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it was surprisingly hard to list off the good mages Hawke knows. Thankfully I set this before Merril's last quest or I'd have even fewer....

I'm still annoyed Orsino went bad. He really didn't have to be, and we didn't have enough good mages in the game, much less developed characters like him.

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DrNib [2011-05-11 11:07:07 +0000 UTC]

I think Anders looks, in your words, "really crazy fried/starved", but has then just been distracted by something. I wonder what.... Also, I agree with the lack on hair on Hawke, very unmanly. Excellent page

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notationn In reply to DrNib [2011-05-13 23:21:46 +0000 UTC]

Maybe he's been distracted by how CRAZY BAD he wants Hawke. Because no matter who you play, no matter what you do, Anders would give anything to latch onto your face. Poor guy, I'd like to give you a chance, but--!

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DragonsFeather [2011-05-11 06:00:01 +0000 UTC]

lol and I watched Dr House last night Still excellent art as usual^^ Your style make them different, and in a very good way!

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notationn In reply to DragonsFeather [2011-05-11 13:33:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I think Merrill will look most different when I draw her again. Anders is not yet right, but he's not horribly far off (for an Act III Anders) in my imagination. Merrill though... bleck. The problem with Merrill is I think she looks too much like a doll in the game... when I draw her, I want her to look more like a person. It's hard though!

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DragonsFeather In reply to notationn [2011-05-11 16:43:27 +0000 UTC]

Well, Anders isn't even supposed to look "normal" in Act 3 after the "Justice" quest (if you helped him until the end), he's thinner and reminds of Justice in Awakening. :shock: I don't get why Bioware didn't let that in the game...
Anyway, I understand why it's hard. And I'm used to the "cute" Merrill, I admit, but what you did wasn't bad at all.

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notationn In reply to DragonsFeather [2011-05-12 04:54:28 +0000 UTC]

Well, I wanted Merrill to look a bit older, since it's act 3, but I lost too much of her elf-ness. Things to remember for next time!

And yeah, poor Anders... he's such a wreck!

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astro-erin [2011-05-11 05:57:30 +0000 UTC]

I adore this comic more and more with each page you post. <3

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notationn In reply to astro-erin [2011-05-11 18:48:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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jactinglim [2011-05-11 05:03:51 +0000 UTC]

nice art

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Uminoko [2011-05-11 02:42:36 +0000 UTC]

LOL Anders on Vicodin...

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notationn In reply to Uminoko [2011-05-11 02:55:56 +0000 UTC]

Maybe it would help...!

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Uminoko In reply to notationn [2011-05-11 03:00:51 +0000 UTC]

Some Thorazine would probably be better. (they give that stuff to schizophrenics) Or Lithium! (bipolar)

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TwilightHellsong [2011-05-11 02:21:01 +0000 UTC]

Last page was 16, this page says 18...did I miss the 17?

Regardless, it's interesting to see how you draw everyone else. Anders looks just a little bit like Kristoff here. Makes me think Justice does something to his host's bone structure, y'know?

And hey, everyone IS logically arranged on the paper! You succeeded

Gotta wonder what your Hawke (and Fenris, for that matter) would think of second cousin Amell, who may or may not have been the Hero of Ferelden...or something like that.

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notationn In reply to TwilightHellsong [2011-05-11 02:31:37 +0000 UTC]

Oops, just forgot to link page 17 as well. (I normally go to the most recent submission and copy the list of links, but I have to add the link for THAT deviation too!)

As for Anders... I was kind of surprised his appearance doesn't change more over the years, you know? In my mind's eye, by the end, he's a total wreck. Justice runs him absolutely ragged, after all. They could have at least given him darker circles around his eyes during the different Acts, yeah? As it stands, he doesn't look quite pitiful enough by the end!

And thanks again . I wanted them organized as companions/friends/family, but dividing the page into three sections each with space for two people in a somewhat original way (especially taking into account my other layouts--don't want to be repeating them) was tricky! Malcolm was also hard since I didn't want to show -him- at all, since don't know what he looks like.

As for the Warden... well, I used a Dalish warden, so it wasn't a problem in that respect. I doubt Hawke's really had any contact with his cousin, if that cousin still exists and just isn't the Warden though... or didn't die in the big mage tower conflict. Don't want to draw attention to yourself when you're an apostate! I wonder what they'd even write about?

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TwilightHellsong In reply to notationn [2011-05-11 02:46:21 +0000 UTC]

Right, 17 was the color-y one. How'd I forget that? Honestly, I swear my brain doesn't exist sometimes...

About Amell, well, that was just an idle thought. Since Hawke is related to him/her and whatnot - regardless of Hero status - makes me wonder what Amell is/was like and where he/she fits on the whole spectrum is all. Would Amell about prove Fenris right about magic being evil, or set the cranky elf back on his heels yet again like your Hawke did...?

And then that line of thought leads to what Hawke and Fenris would have thought about Anders had they met him back in Awakenings, when Justice was a seperate entity and Anders was still fun. What if, what if, what if, right?

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notationn In reply to TwilightHellsong [2011-05-13 22:57:35 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I don't think Fenris would have liked Awakenings-style Anders, either. Fenris is too serious about these things! I think Anders would have been able to bug Fenris EVEN MORE actually... since he'd be all " ... *jab* ... . .... *jab jab* "

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TwilightHellsong In reply to notationn [2011-05-14 06:14:00 +0000 UTC]

Except in those rare moments when Awakenings-Anders was completely serious, such as that heartbreaking conversation next to the tree in Amaranthine. And that would have been before Anders was possessed, at any rate. I'm not saying they would have gotten along, but... And they could have met Justice back when he was nice. Now him, I think Fenris would have gotten along with up to a point. To a point. Except Justice of the past would have pointed out EVERY injustice - only half of which Fenris even believes exist.

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notationn In reply to TwilightHellsong [2011-05-17 11:46:08 +0000 UTC]

I think Fenris would have found Awakenings Anders to be too flippant, annoying, and kind of a waste of space... but I don't think he would have disliked him nearly as much as DA2 Anders. Awakenings Anders was inoffensive and mostly concerned with personal freedom (not even that of other mages, usually); I don't think Fenris would like it, but he could deal and maybe even sympathize a bit. Like, "that's too bad, BUT--". He clearly doesn't even listen to DA2 Anders. Not really.

I think Fenris and DAA Justice would have been way interesting, though! Some people are mad about how Anders changed between DAA and DA2... honestly, I kind of like it, but I do feel -Justice- got a bad deal there.

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