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Published: 2017-03-25 22:40:41 +0000 UTC; Views: 948; Favourites: 23; Downloads: 0
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Description lVlechanomics 's Christmas gift... delivered (almost) on his birthday! ....OTL
Sorry it took so long to do between commissions baby, but glad you like the results. I WORKED REALLY HARD because this character is all my art weaknesses in one! (Beasts, Muscles, Men, Armor...)

Anyway onto the bio!

Project: Feryal's Virtues
Name: Cronus Panthera Tigris Cilmanus Domitor Arculatus (Cronus for short.)
Race: Primanati. They have two forms, their Venator (hunter) form, and the human form. His venator form is a Smiladon/Liger lookin' thing as seen above to the right.
Build: FUCKIN' TANK. He's around 6'5" in his human form and hundreds of pounds of muscle.
Rank: Arculatus (aka, first in command) of the elite Domitor Legion. Domitor's emblem is the broken spear, which in Primanati culture depicts Victory.
Personality: Laid back, friendly, easy going. In his off time he pretty much just goes with the flow. In command he's the type to march right alongside his men. The way to win his heart is through his stomach.
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Comments: 57

DreamPigment [2017-03-27 13:43:41 +0000 UTC]

Very nice character! I like the side by side comparison from human to beast

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Nuciferyne In reply to DreamPigment [2017-03-28 07:08:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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Maomour [2017-03-26 14:43:47 +0000 UTC]

This looks absolutely amazing! You did an amazing job with the lightning on the metall, it looks very realistic! I really like their designs, you simply did a very amazing job drawing these too!

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Nuciferyne In reply to Maomour [2017-03-28 07:10:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!
I was a bit frustrated with the metal at first, I just couldn't get it to look how I wanted. It was either too sharp or too realistic and looked odd on an anime style character. XD

Finally found the balance!

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Maomour In reply to Nuciferyne [2017-03-28 12:01:50 +0000 UTC]

You're really welcome!
And awww but you did an amazing job here! And this is true, you did an amazing job here! <3

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Yersinia88 [2017-03-26 01:22:03 +0000 UTC]

This is just way too cool.

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Nuciferyne In reply to Yersinia88 [2017-03-26 07:45:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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TheSybilSystem [2017-03-25 23:36:36 +0000 UTC]

For being weak at drawing armor, I have to say that you did a pretty good job!

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Nuciferyne In reply to TheSybilSystem [2017-03-26 07:47:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Armor slows me waaayyy down unless I have an actual reference to look at. But then there's angles and perspective to interpret. @_@
I guess I moreso meant it's hard to make up armor from written description. I'm glad that it looks good though!!
(And figuring out how I wanted to shade it to make it shiny but not chrome xD)

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infinitywaltz [2017-03-25 22:48:43 +0000 UTC]

hooooooly crap, this is amazing a @
honestly, you did an amazing job on this (especially for something so complex, i know you say armour's a weakness of yours but honestly i think it came out fantastic :'D)
you can really tell how much effort you put into this, the colouring is GORGEOUS *v* 

also that venator form tho.... that's scary <8I i would not wanna see that charging at me across the battlefield holy shit (i mean i wouldnt wanna see a jacked 6''5 dude charging at me across the battlefield either... ok tbh i wouldnt wanna see anything charging at me across the anything but jesus christ) 

this is seriously cool though, amazing job *v*!! 

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Nuciferyne In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-03-25 23:04:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!
I was trying to read this aloud and I kept choking on the last paragraph omfg. X'D 
I CAN JUST SEE YOU BLASTING OFF INTO THE TEAM ROCKET TWINKLE STAR

I actually had a client call me the 'master of armor' and I'm severely flattered but man, I struggle... so much. I want to live up to that name. ;__;

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infinitywaltz In reply to Nuciferyne [2017-03-26 01:01:14 +0000 UTC]

LMAO OMG 
he'll just send me shooting off straight into the atmosphere by the sheer force of his abs alone colliding into my face at 100mph 
the mental image is making me laugh, just like
his battles are that, just x10000 because there are people being launched into space left and right as he charges, just deflecting off of his chest 

honestly you do a really good job ;v; i need to practise armour too, i don't normally have much reason to draw it (but some of the uniforms in DWHaD have armoured bits so... gotta get on that >n>;; ) 
you seem to really have shading metal down pretty well tbh, i think that contributes a lot? idk art is hard lol

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-02 20:10:29 +0000 UTC]

For as large as Cronus is, he's dwarfed by the titans that are the Elephantidae genus who commonly stand between twelve and fourteen feet tall. They're actually commonly used as living siege weapons.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-02 20:27:26 +0000 UTC]

O_____O holy shit that's... really cool, actually, but i feel so bad for any soldiers that have to face off against one of them <8I 
having such a vast variety of species/races/genuses (i'm not sure what the specific term for it would be to encompass all of them ) must really change the dynamics of their battles oAo 
it's honestly really cool that you've put so much thought into all this stuff, all your and nuci's world building is seriously impressive *v* 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-02 20:40:27 +0000 UTC]

The species themselves are the Primanati, which translates to "children of Primus" who is their Matron Goddess and also the continent they live on.  Yes, the different types of Primanati do very much change the dynamics of battle. There are avian species of Primanati too, in fact Accipiter (Hawk) Legion is comprised entirely of avian Primanati and there are naval legions comprised entirely of aquatic Primanati. Most legions are comprised of the various types and shift and change their composition in time, but generally adhere to a set mixture of types so as to be prepared to tackle any challenge they might face. Cronus's legion, Domitor (Breaker, in the sense of breaking one's opponent) is composed mostly of the larger, stronger races as they're meant to spearhead a battle and overwhelm their opponent from the start, but also have the endurance to fight a battle of attrition. So they have more Elephantidae than normal. 

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-02 21:15:45 +0000 UTC]

8O whoaaa... the primanati sound like they'd be incredibly formidable opponents o__o do the primanati as a whole have like... one giant united army? or are there multiple under different rulers? o-o 
that's really cool that they have such a wide range of animal types that they can change into, is it hereditary for what kind of venator form a primanati is born with, and does that mean that you can end up with crossbreed forms? (since cronus's is like a lion/tiger type thing? unless they're based off of like... entirely new animal species that exist in that universe oAo) 

also i'm sorry if i'm asking a lot of questions, this is just really interesting xD 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-02 22:14:41 +0000 UTC]

I really don't mind the questions. Admittedly I'm pretty proud of them so I like talking about them, lol.

So the venator (hunter) forms are all based upon real life animals though they do have some differences, like Cronus having the elongated canines. Each Primanati only has one venator form that is hereditary and yes they can end up with different crossbreeds so long as they stay in the same approximate genus. Here again we can use Cronus as an example. His mother was a Panthera tigris, his father a Panthera Leo. They are both of the Panthera genus so they may produce a crossbreed offspring.  Couples of radically different genera, say Panthera tigris and Squamata (Lizard) could not produce offspring.

The Empire of Primus's military works very much like the military of Ancient Rome, who I've based the Primanati moderately on. Their military, the Legion, is comprised of several Legions. These are broken up into classes of their own. Regular Legions and Elite Legions such as Domitor and Accipiter. There is only two exceptions which are Sol Legion, the Caesar's personal guards, and Prima Legion who guard Primus's temple, Magna Hortus (Great Garden). Another outfit that doesn't fall into either of these categories is the Vocati (The Called) These are the elite of the elite, handpicked by Primus herself from the Prima Legion as her personal guard. There are fifteen of them and each one is given weapons and armor made for them personally by Primus. Their constant exposure and intimate interactions with her leave them with supernatural strength, endurance, and speed though it also has a side effect of giving them an almost sort of telepathic connection that functions like somewhat of a hive mind. They are still individuals, but they have a supernatural ability to work in perfect tandem, as if each knows what the other is thinking.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-03 00:20:23 +0000 UTC]

ahhh okay! 8D

that makes a lot of sense O: i guess that saves them from having a lot of crossbreeds that just... straight up wouldn't work xD; 
are all the venator forms more sorta bipedal/anthropomorphic as well? and (since it's a thing i've already thought about quite a lot, since my main universe with my partner features werewolves/werecats) how do they transform to and from their venator forms? (like is it purely magical, or does the body fully go through a biological transformation, because that has gotta HURT like hell Dx) 

ohhh that's cool ovo this is actually a really cool take on that sort of format, Primus's personal guard sound awesome as well, especially the whole telepathy/hivemind thing *v* they must be one hell of a line of defence xD 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-03 02:01:13 +0000 UTC]

All of the venator forms are anthropomorphic, but not always bi-pedal as there are genera of Primanati that are insect-like as well. But as far as genera with vertebrae, yes.

The transformations are fully biological and as cubs it is an excruciating event. As they continue through life, however, and shift between forms regularly they develop a pain tolerance for the transformation and learn how to transform more quickly. Primanati enjoy a supercharged healing factor and more dense and reinforced bones. For the other races of Gaia, the only real ways of slowing Primanati are to amputate limbs or inflict overwhelming trauma directly to their heart or brain. It is difficult even for other Primanati to break their bones and highly unlikely for the other races to, the Erisians and Jupitarians having the best chance with it. The reason for this unusually high healing factor and nearly steel strength bone is because they aren't natural in the sense that they all adapted and evolved like the other races did. These feature were specifically added into their DNA.

As far as the effectiveness of the Vocati, those fifteen can easily be as effective as several cohorts of a legion.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-03 23:24:35 +0000 UTC]

ohh cool, i was wondering if there were insect forms as well xD

ahh, that makes sense, their first transformation must be so awful Dx at what age do they start transforming? there's gotta be a lot of risks that come with that, jeez *n*; 
i guess they as a race are pretty much created with battle/war in mind? they seem like the perfect warriors oAo 

holy shit though, that's amazing O_O 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-04 02:58:38 +0000 UTC]

Primanati are born in their venator forms and have to learn from others, like their parents to change into their human forms. This is done when they are around five years old. Many parents are demanding and push their cubs to shift to and from their venator forms as frequently as they can before needing rest in order to quickly build pain tolerance as well as hasten the transformation process.

It wouldn't seem that the Primanati would have use for these humanoid forms when their venator forms  sport enhanced senses, athletic ability, and all around fighting and hunting prowess but the venator forms aren't without their drawbacks. A Primanati in their venator form can only speak Mater ligula (Mother's tongue) their native language.  If a Primanati remains in their venator form for too long, they start to lose their humanity and become feral. This isn't a problem when they're cubs, the problem arises after puberty. There isn't much drawback to a Primanati remaining in their human form though, other than they might begin to get a sort of cramped feeling, like you do when you resist the urge to stretch long enough and given long enough, they'll lose their accrued pain tolerance to changing form though that would take years to really become noticeable. Otherwise a Primanati might become unfamiliar with their venator form's abilities and limits.

You're right in saying that the Primanati were a race created with war in mind. That's exactly what they were bio-engineered for. They began as tribes that often warred with one another and it wasn't for quite some time that the first Caesar, Vigil Aquila Chrysaetos Cilmanus Primus, would unite all of the Primanati under the Empire of Primus. Because  of such a long history of war, the Primanati view themselves as being "forged in the fires of war".

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-05 21:26:37 +0000 UTC]

oh wow oAo those poor kids D:> 

ooohhh, that makes a lot of sense. i can see how you'd start to lose yourself a bit remaining in a more animalistic shape for too long, that must be terrifying x_X i guess that would be a particular risk during long battles where they need to stay transformed for long periods of time and aren't given much of a reprieve D: 

that makes me wonder what drove the goddess who created them to make a race of super soldiers o3o 
that's really cool though *v* 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-07 12:39:27 +0000 UTC]

The time a Primanati is in the most danger of becoming feral is throughout puberty. After their mind matures and their hormones settle it will take longer before they become feral. Mental fortitude also plays a part as well, though through focus and mental training, any Primanati can learn to prolong their descent into becoming feral and it is part of the training the Primanati receive while in military academy.

The land of Primus, and by extention Primus herself, were actually created by another god. The Chief God Ceres. He was given the task of creating a race that would become Feryal's army and would be able to withstand the bad times ahead. To do this, he was given a sword called the Blade of Wight which was imbued with some of Feryal's divinity, allowing him to create Primus who would then create the Primanati.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-08 19:26:38 +0000 UTC]

ohhhh, are all primanati expected to under-go military training, or is it optional? o: 

...okay, the blade of wight sound cool as hell. 8I especially considering it literally had the ability to create a goddess, that's really awesome to imagine. *v* 
i hope they can stand up to whatever is causing the bad times in that case D8 

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Nuciferyne In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-10 22:40:12 +0000 UTC]

I'm gonna drop some links just cuz I'm not sure if you remember/recognize them:

Ceres: cosmicalarune.tumblr.com/post/…
Feryal: cosmicalarune.tumblr.com/post/…
Old Primus: orig10.deviantart.net/cd27/f/2…
(I'll need to redraw her because her body was designed as Xiuhcoatl, but we moved her to being Primus lmao)

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infinitywaltz In reply to Nuciferyne [2017-04-11 05:24:02 +0000 UTC]

AHHHH, I REMEMBER FERYAL, she's such a cute ;A; and primus as well, uh... well, i remember the original of that pic rather LOL 8I 
i think i vaguely remember ceres too, wasn't there another character that had like the mirror-skin as well? (at least one i think you drew P: )

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-11 19:07:38 +0000 UTC]

Yes there is! Luchean was probably the one you remembered: cosmicalarune.tumblr.com/post/… ----------  68.media.tumblr.com/0a09ffd798…


FERYAL'S MY BABY I hurt her so much. ;__;
And ofc you remember her aspect/your fav, Luna! cosmicalarune.tumblr.com/post/…

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-11 19:47:12 +0000 UTC]

oooh yeah! looking through the cards reminded me that enyo exists, i was just like AHHHH I LOVED HER ;A; <333 her and tourri, man, they were my favs (alongside luna ofc LOL) 

YESSSSSSSS LUNA WAS ALWAYS SUCH A CUTIE fbhjfbjd ;v; i love her new outfit (if that's still the one you're keeping for her? oAo)

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-11 20:36:34 +0000 UTC]

It is, that's the outfit she ventures out into the world in. Her little adventurer gear!
There's an old colored one somewhere too but I gave her smaller eyes to resemble her sister. The HUGE EYE thing was a cute joke but she looks better now honestly. XD



TOURRI STILL LOVES CAKE. And Enyo is still a precious baby.
cosmicalarune.tumblr.com/tagge…

Even with her goth makeup, can't hide that moe!

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-11 22:40:00 +0000 UTC]

ahhhh that looks so nice *v* ahhh yeah, i remember luna being super moe~ =v= (wait luna has a sister?? oAo i don't think i remember ever knowing that LOL or maybe i just forgot

AHHHH ENYO IS STILL SO CUTE but she looks so sad ;^; poor bab 

(also looking through that tag, i really like the way you were shading the hair in the greyscale? it made it look so shiny and silky *A*)

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-12 00:05:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah my quick shading for hair seems to be prettier than the full blown effort LMAO!
I've been sorta keeping to that but it isn't as drastic as in color. :T

Yes! Luna has had a twin forever! 
Back when Luna had that sort of 'matron mother' look too haha. Now that's just Peri's thing and Luna looks adventurey.
UGH I NEED TO DRAW PERI THIS IS SAD. 9 YEARS AGO.

But that, and also, Apolline is the actual birth daughter of Feryal. She treats Luna like a sister even though technically Luna is... a fragment of her mother.
 (Pff I never drew a serious image of Apolline either?!?!?! Her *coughincestuouscough* brother is MIA too.)
May as well throw in Feryal's color pic while I'm stuck down memory lane: 

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-12 04:43:51 +0000 UTC]

OOOHHHH NO WAIT I DO REMEMBER HER, I REMEMBER THAT SKETCH 
WE BOTH HAD A PERI, YESSS I REMEMBER 
omg nine years??? i'd love to see what she looks like updated tbh ;v; 

i remember those two pics too, apolline is gorgeous *V* shehassomuchhairholyshit 
i don't think i've seen what she wears outside of her ringleader outfit either LOL 

the feryal picture was the one based off that one song wasn't it? the one that was in an amv.... fffff.... nostromo? no wait i don't think that was the song name but the video had something to do with it xD i remember loving that song ;A; <3333 (at least i think it was...? :L)

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-12 15:07:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah! I don't remember the song name either... but yes that AMV!
This was a screenshot of the animated part where all the aura was around her but GFDI YOUTUBE NUKED ME so I don't have that anymore! ;__;

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-12 20:14:22 +0000 UTC]

oh man, rip Dx i forgot how bad youtube is with frickin copyright... x_x 
on the plus side, though, i found the song! ;v; 

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-13 18:03:17 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. honestly that was the nail in the coffin for Zodiac since I lost EVERYTHING for it.
But I've thought about redoing it anyway. Maybe more magical-hensshhiin than alien or something. Who knows!


Ahhhh I actually have this song on my HD still?!!?!

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-14 14:12:50 +0000 UTC]

oh god really?? DX nooooo those animations were so beautiful QAQ OOOOHHH that would be seriously cool though, i'm still a sucker for magical-people stuff so i back that 100% 8'D 
jesus christ it's been so long since i animated a henshin.................... part of me still yearns to actually complete one LOL with all the pretty effects and *v*

i still really love that song ;A; it always makes me headmovie beautiful, sad things LOL 

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-15 23:20:25 +0000 UTC]

Yep. The only ones left were some GIFs I managed to find where I'd sent them in gmail, so I saved those at least. :'c
cosmicalarune.tumblr.com/post/…


If that idea gets off the ground ever, I'll be sure and let you know then. 8)
Someday I will complete an original henshin again. The first two I did were awful, I mean with non-choppy animation.

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-16 13:33:24 +0000 UTC]

that whole 'character transitioning' opening is still such a cool idea QAQ

ahh, please do! ;v; 
and same 8'I i have no idea who for, or when, but... someday >:'L 
i think the only ones i've ever done have been tokyo mew mew OC ones LOL (which there's no shame in i still love that <3) 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-09 02:51:17 +0000 UTC]

Only Primanati men go through the military academy as they are all required to have basic combat training in the case they need to defend their home and/or village. Alongside combat, they're taught basic craftsmanship, construction, and farming techniques that way if they decide to join the Legion, they're have the know how to build and farm in order to keep their legion self-sustaining and not need to bring civilians in for building and farming, general repair work for buildings, armor, weapons, etc. For those that join the Legion, they will enter Legionnaire's academy where they will build on their training from the military academy. For those that decide not to join the legion, as said they'll have basic combat knowledge to defend themselves and homes, but also have basic knowledge to build off from should they decide to not be Legionnaires and instead be farmers or go into another trade.The only trade that they cannot enter is in construction as all of the construction is done by the legions. This allows them to have intimate knowledge of the city or fort they are garrisoned in and of their structures.

The reason that only men go through the academy is that in Primanati society women are revered as mothers and caretakers. They're more or less the head of the house and hunt and gather food, farming, and caring for the children. This role is more emphasized in the families whose men are in the Legion, for those that are farmers and merchants, these responsibilities are shared. Besides being the care-taker of the home, they are also seen as care-takers of the spirit. Only females can be spiritual leaders. These priestesses are called 'Matris vocem' (Mother's voice) and are highly respected in Primanati society. To the extent that Empire's senate will often go to these priestesses for advice and guidance. Aside from priestesses, it's fairly popular for women to also become merchants as well.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-11 05:27:57 +0000 UTC]

oooohh okay, that's an interesting take on things O: especially having the legionnaires handle construction work, kinda gives a new level to knowing exactly what you have to work with and how best to defend it ovo sounds very smart, actually! 

that's cool about the priestesses, is it purely spiritual/belief or is there magical elements to it too? (i don't know how otherworldly powers and such work in this universe, if say certain races have certain abilities, or if it's strictly something that only the gods and any direct offshoot of them have? o3o) 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-11 18:56:31 +0000 UTC]

In the Feryal's Virtues universe only the gods and their chosen Queens have divinity (magical power). The exception is High Queen Luna's family, divinity extends to Luna's children. This is partly because both Luna and her husband posses divinity but also because of the nature of Luna and her husband's divinity in which Luna is an aspect of Feryal, the mother of all life and all gods and goddesses, and her husband Abbadon is a member of a race that are made almost purely of energy. It ends with their children however, their grandchildren and on do not possess divinity. That said, different races posses abilities considered supernatural by our standards. The Erisians, for example are incredibly strong while the Charon also have the ability to change into were-beasts.

While the Matris Vocem do not possess any magical ability outright, they do commune with Primus and are the only ones to be able to communicate with her outside of the Magna Hortus (Great Garden); the temple she resides in and the area around it. There is a single exception here being the Caesar, the Emperor, of Primus. 

Primanati are extremely spiritual and superstitious. Legions that conquer foreign lands are very wary of and will not enter any forests, jungle, or swamps there until they build what they call a 'tether', a stone statue of the likeness of Primus made of a special stone. They believe this tether allows Primus to see and watch over them in lands outside of her influence, as well as allows them to hear her 'call'. The call is pretty abstract and most Primanati will describe it simply as a feeling while others will describe it as difference in the landscape. They claim that they can feel the call through the wind and that the land around them seems more dead and fragile without it. The call, and by extension the tether, are so integral that before the Primanati will build fortresses or strongholds for footholds in new lands, they will first build the tether and then build their foothold around it. When Primanati die, they are buried in their home province as close as possible to their home village and buried with a tree sapling. They believe that in this way, they are returning to Primus and giving back to the land that gave to them.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-11 20:23:56 +0000 UTC]

ahh, gotcha :'D that sounds really cool, actually, is each Queen's divinity kinda specialised to whatever their god's specific area/speciality is, or is it just universal magical ability? 

oohh, i was wondering if the caesar was in any way connected to primus, actually oAo 

damn, you guys have really put a lot of deep thought into their culture O: they seem incredibly well thought out and believable honestly, you've been very thorough with the details, that's honestly really great to see :'D (idk, i've seen a lot of fantasy races that fall pretty flat because they don't seem to have carved out their own unique culture, in the way that people would if they'd existed for that long) 

i really like the concept of them planting saplings with their deceased too, it's kinda like completing the circle of life ;v; 

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-12 01:01:18 +0000 UTC]

You know, you mentioned somewhere thinking of making a wiki for your world building with Pod.
That reminded me.... years ago, when the Wii was new... I spent a very long time painstakingly typing on that wiimote. 

feryalsvirtues.wikidot.com/rac…

These aren't even relevant anymore because FV is now on a planet, no longer spread out over it's own galaxy. lol
But it can give you an idea of how much this story has flipped on its head. XD

I mean SOME of the stuff for each race is still the same. Just less futuristic, less vibrant skin shades, and wayyy more fleshed out.

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-12 04:52:09 +0000 UTC]

YOU WROTE ALL THAT ON A WIIMOTE?! jesus fucking christ... you have so much patience ._. 
man, that's a lot of races (and a lot of diversity too, which is always good :'D) 
i'd be interested in seeing how they've changed with the revamps and stuff O:

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NuciComs In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-12 15:06:12 +0000 UTC]

*fingers twitch from the memory* Yes. Because back then we only had one computer. 
So I would use the wii to do some browsing and shit to let Cal have some time on the comp, and decided, "oh hey! I can just work on the wiki from here!" XD

They're a lot more diverse now than they were with being fleshed out. Just took away so much of the whacky alien skintone stuff. XD
Now I have drafted a basic map, and Cal and I worked through the progression of which ones were the first few races, who they bred with, and how the other races formed. OvO

It's a lot of work, but it's fun work so I don't mind. The only part I mind is never being able to show it off to the world for many yearssss... which is why both of us are like, super excited to ramble about it to you! ^______^

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infinitywaltz In reply to NuciComs [2017-04-12 20:17:30 +0000 UTC]

my god, though... that mustve taken you ages *n*;

oohhh awesome 8O i really look forward to seeing whatever you do with it tbh qvq it seems like a really cool universe!

i know that feeeeeeeel OTL pod and i have literally got like... three/four arcs worth of granite plot that we havent really told anyone about, and a whole shit ton of side stories and AAAAA. we want to make it into things but... it's just so... time consuming *_* SOMEDAY. 

honestly i'm enjoying hearing about it! so you can both feel free to ramble as much as you want xD it's always fun to hear about other people's ocs/worlds, especially when they're as passionate about it as you guys are xD ;v; 

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-12 00:40:34 +0000 UTC]

The Queens inherit their divinity from the god or goddess that chooses them which tends to be specialized. For example, Eris uses ice divinity. When she chooses Ailith as queen, Ailith will go on to use ice divinity as well. Each God or Goddess specializes in a divinity in their own way so while elements are shared among the Gods and Goddesses, no two use it the exact same way.

I'll expand further on the divinity system. So it's kind of like having a prism. Feryal is the origin of all divinity so naturally all elements are blended into one. Divinity is then split and channeled from her much like how light is split into a rainbow out of the otherside of a prism. These channels connect to each God and Goddess in their own unique blend of one or two elements. These channels are then passed down to their chosen queens. If, for example, Eris was somehow destroyed, Ailith, her chosen queen, would be stripped of her divinity. The only exception to this is once again Luna's family and the nature of their divinity. They have a non-elemental divinity that is sourced from Luna and Abbadon themselves. If it were to have a name, it would be called 'will divinity' as their divinity is their will given physical form. The stronger their will to achieve a goal, the stronger their divinity will become to help them obtain that goal. This is not without drawback however. Should they have a strong will to do something, but a strong negative emotion is attached to it, they will begin to strengthen the main enemy of the story who feeds on negative emotions.

Expanding further on the religion itself, the main Pantheon being used in the world is called the 'Ceresian Pantheon' which includes:

Feryal - Mother of all Creation
Mercury - God of Wisdom and Medicine
Venus - God of Love and Marriage
Mars - God of War and Strategy
Ceres - Chief God
Jupiter - God of Agriculture and Harvest
Saturn - God of Generations, Periods, Diplomacy
Uranus - God of Travel
Neptune - Goddess of Oceans
Pluto - God of Afterlife
Orcus - God of Law and Order
Eris - Goddess of War and Chaos
Sedna - Goddess of Health and Vitality
Varuna - Goddess of Weather
Quaoar - Goddess of Song and Ceremony
Typhon - God of Hunt
Charon - God of Death
Ixion - God of Commerce

Though this is the main accepted Pantheon, most of the races have their own spins on the lore heavily influenced from the lore they followed from before the introduction to the Ceresian Pantheon. An example would be that the Erisians still practice some aspects of animal worship and believe that every night a massive beast closes it's maw around the planet. Morning comes because each time this happens, Eris is able to beat the beast back. However, they also believe that one day Eris will fall battling the beast who will go on to devour the world and when this happens the fallen deemed worthy will stand beside Eris in the after life to do battle with the beast once again. 

The Primanati do not follow the Ceresian Pantheon and only worship Primus

The Caesar and line of succession is where Primanati society gets a little weird. Okay so save for Caesar Vigil I each Caesar procreates with Primus and produces a son who will inherit the Empire, who then goes on to procreate with Primus to produce another son and so on. The Caesar may marry and have an Empress to rule beside him and may even have children with this Empress, but only the child that the Caesar has with Primus will inherit the throne. Because Primus isn't a normal person however, the standard rules to inbreeding don't apply. This method of doing things ensure that the Empire isn't embroiled in civil war or otherwise split or diminished. The Senate is more normalized and former Arculatus vie for positions in the senate with all of the normal political shenanigans that go along with it. Attempts to assassinate the Emperor are met with resistance from the Sol Legion and in extreme cases Primus and the Vocati themselves.


Yeah, I've really put a lot of time and effort into the Primanati, their culture, land, every detail I could think of, so as I'm sure you can guess, I can really get into talking about them. I've begun detailing even the inter-genus culture and how different genera interact with one another, and though for now they use a minor altered variant of Latin I hope to flesh it out into a true unique language sometime.

It was actually The Elder Scrolls series that inspired me to dig so deeply into world building. I loved learning all of the little intricate details. I'd created the Primanati before hand but TES is what made me flesh them out to such a degree.

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-12 23:09:51 +0000 UTC]

ohh that's cool, i see! 8D that's... actually a really good way of describing it, i got what you meant pretty much instantly ovo 
the whole 'will divinity' thing is cool too, i can see how that would be a double edged sword *n*; especially if the main antag feeds on negative emotions... .A. that could lead to a looot of bad outcomes Dx; 

8D i'm glad you guys are including varied beliefs for different races, i guess it wouldn't be particularly realistic to just have one view of things accepted by the entire world. :L 
(also that erisian legend is really cool oAo kinda reminds me of norse stuff in a way :'D) 

oh okay oAo a liitttle weird but there's been way weirder in irl mythology LOL i guess that works for them, though xD 

yeah, it's awesome tbh! coming up with your own unique language seems really difficult, so good luck for when you do that! oAo honestly all that work on the details seems like it's really paying off, even just the primanati seem very much like a vivid, believable race with their own rich history/culture ovo honestly, if this is the level of detail you guys are putting into your races, i can't wait to see/hear about the rest of them LOL :'D 

that's cool, though :'D i haven't really played much of any of those games myself, but i've watched pod (my partner) play though some of skyrim, i'd like to play it myself at some point P: (ngl i'm a liiiittle put off by the giant spiders... >_>;; )

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lVlechanomics In reply to infinitywaltz [2017-04-13 04:06:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, we took inspiration for the Erisians from the Norse while the Martians are more of a greco-roman culture. The others are less notably inspired from any one real life civilization and more inspired from a culture or way of life. The Quaorians for example are based of from bards while the Jupitarians are inspired from the idea of a simple laid back farm/hunter lifestyle. The Sednians are inspired from the tribes of people residing in the arctic circle like the Eskimos. Mercurians are inspired from the STEM field and a pursuit of knowledge. Anyway, yeah as I'd said before, even though the Ceresian Pantheon is commonly accepted, each race has it's own collection of beliefs and stories that extend to the Gods and Goddesses as well. The best example would be the Erisian and Martian versions of one another's deity. To start, as stated in the list in my previous post, both of Eris and Mars are worshiped as the goddess/god of war respectively. However in Erisian culture Mars is not recognized as a god of war but as a deceitful god tricking other races as well as trying to trick the Erisians themselves into worshiping him as one to steal followers away from Eris. Martians on the other hand believe that Eris is a barbarian goddess of discord posing as a goddess of war in order to steal worship away from Mars to weaken him and the Martian people so that the Erisians can eventually destroy Martian civilization. This comes from countless years of war and rivalry between the two races that continues on in present day despite the fact that the Queens of both Mars and Eris are close friends. Also for the longest time Erisians believed that Eris was a male and did not take easily to the fact that Eris is actually female. Some Erisians stubbornly cling onto the belief that Eris is a man in present day. On the subject of the Erisians, there is actually a village of Erisians living close to the Sednian border called Hailstone whose residence still practice worship to the old animal gods. Erisian men sometimes make the perilous journey there to be tested though most don't survive the journey and even fewer survive the test. Ailith's royal guardsmen are comprised of men who've not only passed this test, but are former residence of Hailstone, calling themselves the "Hailstone Guard"

The frostbite spiders of Skyrim really bothered me for the longest time as well but somehow after so long playing the game and seeing them, they eventually stopped bothering me. It was worth getting past the stress of having to fight them to really get into the game and eventually the lore. The Mass Effect trilogy is another good set of games to immerse yourself in for the lore and science, though there are some eyebrow raising retcons and inconsistencies, overall I was really able to get into it and the lore. It's not as in depth as TES but it's still pretty technical. 

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infinitywaltz In reply to lVlechanomics [2017-04-14 17:41:55 +0000 UTC]

ohhh cool 8D i really like the concept of the erisian and martian's views of their gods being so different, that's great xD that's gotta suck for the queens, though, having their people mostly hate eachother <8I; since there's been wars and such between the two, i'd guess that comes with a lot of discrimination between the two races? ...that's got to really suck for them, since i assume that both of their countries are under a monarchy, being that they have a queen? as far as i'm aware, since the UK is still under monarchy, the queen has to give the declaration of war, our government doesn't actually have the power to do that alone - is that how it works for their countries too, or is there a government that can make that choice? idk, i just imagine that would be horrible for the queens, to have to actively declare war on their close friend's people. especially what with how war can totally tear countries apart... ._.; 

the whole thing about erisians stubbornly believing their patron goddess is a man is pretty cool too, iii'd imagine that's probably led to at least a bit of misogyny in their society?

it might be partially due to the norse-ish aspects, but i really like the lore you've got for the erisians too xD (which is amazing, actually, since i tend to be veeeery picky with high fantasy stuff, it seems to be very hit or miss for me P: i'd imagine though that that's most likely due to the fact high fantasy is typically incredibly lore heavy, and not everyone's very good at that/or they just stick to the same old tropes without bringing anything new to the table. you guys seem to be involving a very wide variety of concepts and ideas (plus you've got an entirely original world too), so you've actually got something pretty damn unique and interesting, so that's 100% 👍👍👍👍 in my books xD) 

oooohh, i've been wanting to play mass effect too, particularly recently (i've been playing the saints row series lately, and the entire ship hub of saints row 4 is apparently one big mass effect reference xD so that kinda got me curious about it. ovo) i'll probably have to give skyrim a shot at some point in that case, when i eventually run out of games to play... which probably won't be for a while since i've built up a massive backlog OTL i'm only just getting through bioshock infinite BUT it's going on the list \o/

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