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nymphont In reply to MartinSilvertant [2013-02-05 04:27:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much. I was pleased with how the numerals and number related glyphs turned out as well. I don't know if you noticed, but I have carried on my penchance (sp?) for unusual '@' signs. The ampersand style used here is another I use often, though not always.

You know, I realized the discrepancy when uploading them & checking each character count. I didn't investigate further, but I will. If it were the other way around I could easier make sense of it, but as it is I do not know for what reason I omitted them. I will find out though.

The preview probably shows only a hundred or so glyphs, approximately 240 are not shown in the preview. Mosly extended Latin ranges, characters with diacritical marks and so on. Should create a new preview image that includes them or add them onto this one?

I made the two Robinne and Robinne Truecase separate fonts because initially I had made on the uppercase Robinne, with no intentions of making it in a traditional upper and lowercase form. But since it's design had gone so well and I did receive requests for a lowercase I decided to give it a try.

This resulted in the typeface I have called Robinne Truecase. I decided to release it separatly and with it's own name to avoid any confusion, since Robinne had already been released in it's all uppercase form. In addition, I really liked Robinne in all uppercase letters, (hence I would not have created it as such) and I felt like it had validity that way, so the upper & lower case version was given it's own separate, though related identity as Robinne Truecase.

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MartinSilvertant In reply to nymphont [2013-02-05 07:49:43 +0000 UTC]

This Robinne @ is not that odd, but the Whipsmart @ is rather conspicuous. I really like that. It's always fun to go a little nuts with these kind of symbols you don't use too often anyway. The ampersand is quite a difficult glyph to design I think, but a lot of fun as well.

Should create a new preview image that includes them or add them onto this one?
It's not strictly necessary but it might be good to include so people know just how advanced this font is. I personally don't think showing the whole glyph set is the best way to present your fonts though. The best way is either with a waterfall so you can show the different styles, weights, ligatures and accented characters (I usually add about 2 sentences in a foreign language to show the accented letters) or create an image like the font is actually used for a project, the way Hoefler & Frere-Jones do it. The latter method may not be ideal on dA because people might not recognize it as a font.

Anyway, showing just the glyph set might actually work better on dA. The people on dA are very different people from the ones who visit font foundries. A survey would have to be done to see which method works best for people. I will say this though, it's a bit of a pity to make your presentation image so small while you have so much space for a larger image.

But since it's design had gone so well and I did receive requests for a lowercase I decided to give it a try.
Ahh that makes sense, but I thought Robinne was released after Robinne Truecase, which is a bit confusing. If Robinne Truecase was released first then Robinne becomes obsolete. Still, it's not a bad marketing strategy to offer both typefaces separately. It means double the exposure. I'm certainly not deleting Dion Sans when I release Dion Sans Pro. Well, I have to anyway because Dion Sans will remain free while Pro will cost money.

By the way, why did you decide to offer all your fonts for free for personal use and donations for commercial use? I think I'm going to ask money for my typefaces but offer 1 weight per typeface for free. Making money with my typefaces is a clear objective, so a free for personal use model probably won't work for me. I still want to offer some things for free to lure more people. This worked brilliantly for exljbris Font Foundry.

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nymphont In reply to MartinSilvertant [2013-02-05 08:37:23 +0000 UTC]

Robinne was released prior to Robinne Truecase, I may have uploaded it to dA in reverse order though.

Also, thanks for taking the time to read & understand my text, sometimes I type just a wee bit too fast, sorry for all the typos and other mistakes!

Yes, most of my fonts are licensed free for personal use, donation to use commercially. But I have been advised that this is silly by several pretty reknown folks who know a thing or two, so I would like to go a route similar to what you describe, offering a limited version or single weight of a font free while selling the complete version or additional weights. Or selling a Pro version. To be honest I have been wanting to do this for too long,but I am not sure how to go about it. I contacted myfonts.com a while back and to which I was positively received, but I never took it any further by sending in fonts because I still have many questions about how I should best go about things. I have been doing pretty well with my honesty-donate policy, I imagine that by NOT selling my fonts in some commercial form, I could in fact be losing a substantial amount of revenue as my experienced friends in the biz have suggested.

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MartinSilvertant In reply to nymphont [2013-02-05 09:05:09 +0000 UTC]

I didn't notice any typos. If there were any, I think I might be reading a wee bit too fast

I think I'm also going to sell Dion Sans Pro on MyFonts. I believe you get 50% of the profits so that's not a bad deal. For my other typefaces I'm probably first going to see if one of the major foundries have any interest and make a deal so I can sell it both there and on MyFonts.

Can I ask how much money you generally make with your fonts? ~dawnland seems to be making a decent buck with his typefaces. As for Jos Buivenga from exljbris Font Foundry, he doesn't even have to work anymore. That would be amazing, to get enough money with my typefaces so I only have to work maybe 3 days per week. I wouldn't want to stop working altogether, but taking the pressure off is great.

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nymphont In reply to MartinSilvertant [2013-02-05 09:23:24 +0000 UTC]

I certainly am not at the point where I don't have to work anymore, not by any stretch, but in reality I am currently unemployed. Earnings from my fonts has (thankfully) been sufficient enough to provide for my expenses in the meantime. It does vary, and I do imagine it wont always remain this way, it's only a matter of time, but ... it works out to ... well I am reluctant to give a dollar amount publicly here at least (sorry). But I can say, it is like my job right now. It is not entirely dependable, but it is usually quite decent.

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MartinSilvertant In reply to nymphont [2013-02-05 10:20:27 +0000 UTC]

That sounds pretty good. I still have a long way to go myself. This year I want to go back to the art academy to get my bachelor in graphic design and then my master in typography & communication. So far my life has been a struggle, but my future actually looks pretty bright I think.

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nymphont In reply to MartinSilvertant [2013-02-06 06:18:15 +0000 UTC]

Right on, that sounds wonderful, I would love to further my education in such a way. Good for you, I wish you the best.

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MartinSilvertant In reply to nymphont [2013-02-06 12:04:20 +0000 UTC]

Why don't you though?

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nymphont In reply to MartinSilvertant [2013-02-08 07:15:42 +0000 UTC]

It is something I hope to do, very much so. I just don't know when I can afford to.

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MartinSilvertant In reply to nymphont [2013-02-08 13:18:11 +0000 UTC]

Can't you get financing? What about your parents?

Here in the Netherlands you can get a student loan. We can take up to 10 years to finish the educations we want. I've done 4 years so far. I have 4 or 5 more years to go if I want to reach my goal.

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nymphont In reply to MartinSilvertant [2013-02-11 07:49:40 +0000 UTC]

I've done 4 years so far. I have 4 or 5 more years to go if I want to reach my goal.
That's awesome, much respect.

I may qualify for some student loans as well, so I am going to look into that. Thanks so much.

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MartinSilvertant In reply to nymphont [2013-02-11 15:47:06 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. It would be a lost opportunity if you work now while you can climb higher by studying. That's the consideration I have. Besides, the economy is so bad that I have great difficulty finding a job anyway. Better just bridge the crisis with more school.

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