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I've almost forgotten today is March 1st meaning it's Mary Sue march. I've haven't been able create any mary sue related pictures since I had some issues. Sometimes people could take bitter with the sweets and if you think that Cotton Hill (hank's dad from king of the hill) is the worst but rude and insulting grandfather in the world you should take a look at Lexi Rogers (my oc from diva con).
When it comes to making a comic it always has to have a antagonist and Lexi is that antagonist. She's almost like Mackenzie Hollister, Trixie Tang and Trina Riffin altogether. Before you ask too many questions about her they are a few things you need to understand about this girl in pink.
Lexi Rogers is a typical 15-year-old high school who's like the Queen Bee, of Princeton High. She's rich, spoiled, typicially snobby and basically a preppy bitch. Despite having the whole school liking her and hanging out with the popular crowd she's basically the mean girl and thinks she gets what she wants and gets away with it. But in real life she doesn't really get want she wants because half the school don't like her because of her rude and insulting personality.
I've wasn't thinking about using her in this meme basically thinking how it would turn out. But when I created her in mary sue form, she looks whole lot like edward's whore than just some whinny bella swan wannabe mary sue.
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thanks,
and just to be clear mary sues are so evil
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I agree with that completely.
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maybe i dunno..seems like a club to be thats used to beat down certain archatypes.. i mean example.. there was a mary sue/gary stu test going around da about a year maybe two ago..
none of mine scored.. my ocs.. but it seems like 90% of the cannons i like.. and will ocassionally rp... all scored 95%'s
and i dont like the idea that making your oc love the main char is a mark of a mary sue.. its definately a mark of fangirling.. but not a mary sue.
my OC rose actually got a really LOW score on it.. as in.. was rated dull.. that was her ONLY ms'ish trait.
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you have a good point.
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thanks. i dint mean to be snippy but i really dont like it when people say that.. just seems negative to me.
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I know what you mean
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yah.. so how areyou any how?
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oh, everything is fine
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thats good then
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You got the fashionable idea in your work. That's so original!
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What exactly is Mary Sue? I heard of it but don't know what it is.
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you already know, but I'll explain this in a different way
From Wikipedia:
Mary Sue
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the term used in contemporary discussions of fan fiction. For other uses, see Mary Sue (given name) .
In fan fiction , a Mary Sue is an idealized character representing the author.[1]
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Origin[edit ]
The term "Mary Sue" comes from the name of a character created by Paula Smith in 1973 for her parody story "A Trekkie's Tale"[2] :15 published in her fanzine Menagerie #2.[3] The story starred Lieutenant Mary Sue ("the youngest Lieutenant in the fleet — only fifteen and a half years old"), and satirized unrealistic Star Trek fan fiction.[4] Such characters were generally original female adolescents who had romantic liaisons with established canonical adult characters, or in some cases were the younger relatives or protégées of those characters. By 1976 Menagerie's editors stated that they disliked such characters, saying:
Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk , Spock , and McCoy , if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.[5]
"Mary Sue" today has changed from its original meaning and now carries a generalized, although not universal, connotation of wish-fulfillment and is commonly associated with self-insertion . True self-insertion is a literal and generally undisguised representation of the author; most characters described as "Mary Sues" are not, though they are often called "proxies"[6] for the author. The negative connotation comes from this "wish-fulfillment" implication: the "Mary Sue" is judged as a poorly developed character, too perfect and lacking in realism to be interesting.[7]
Criticism[edit ]The "Mary Sue" concept has drawn criticism from amateur and professional writers.
In chapter four of her book Enterprising Women,[8] Camille Bacon-Smith includes a subsection on the "Mary Sue" concept. While not denying that such characters exist (and offering psychological observations as to why "Mary Sues" exist), she observes that fear of creating a "Mary Sue" may be restricting and even silencing some writers.
Smith quotes an issue of the Star Trek fanzine Archives[9] as identifying "Mary Sue" paranoia as one of the sources for the lack of "believable, competent, and identifiable-with female characters." In this article, Cantor interviews her sister Edith, also an amateur editor, who says she receives stories with cover letters apologizing for the tale as "a Mary Sue", even when the author admits she does not know what a "Mary Sue" is. According to Edith Cantor, while Paula Smith's original "Trekkie's Tale" was only ten paragraphs long, "in terms of their impact on those whom they affect, those words [Mary Sue] have got to rank right up there with the Selective Service Act ."[10] At Clippercon 1987 (a Star Trek fan convention held yearly in Baltimore, Maryland), Smith interviewed a panel of female authors who say they do not include female characters in their stories at all. She quoted one as saying "Every time I've tried to put a woman in any story I've ever written, everyone immediately says, this is a Mary Sue." Smith also pointed out that "Participants in a panel discussion in January 1990 noted with growing dismay that any female character created within the community is damned with the term Mary Sue."[11]
However, several other writers quoted by Smith have argued that in Star Trek as originally created, James T. Kirk is himself a "Mary Sue," and that the label seems to be used more indiscriminately on female characters who do not behave in accordance with the dominant culture's images and expectations for females as opposed to males.[12] Professional author Ann C. Crispin is quoted as saying: "The term 'Mary Sue' constitutes a put-down, implying that the character so summarily dismissed is not a true character, no matter how well drawn, what sex, species, or degree of individuality."[13]
Author, academic and radio host J.M. Frey , who has written several papers exploring fan behavior, analyzes Mary Sue type characters and their possibilities in Water Logged Mona Lisa: Who Is Mary Sue, and Why Do We Need Her? Frey believes that Mary Sue is a self-gratifying, wish-fulfillment device, but argues that they can be transformed into "Meta Sues" who "investigate the self or marginalized subjects in media texts."[14]
Variations[edit ]Marty Stu is a male variant on this trope , which shares the same wish-fulfillment aspect but tends to describe a character with traits identified as stereotypically male.[15] The Star Trek: The Next Generation character Wesley Crusher was called a Marty Stu by the feminist popular culture magazine Bitch.[16] There is speculation amongst fans and academics that Wesley was a self-insertion character for Gene Roddenberry.[17] [18] Other variations include Gary Stu, Larry Stu, Mary Joe, or Marty Sam.[19] [20] [21]
Einstein Sue is an intelligent variant of a Mary Sue. Like the way Mary Sue is perfect at her job, Einstein Sue is more intelligent than any other character. She (or he) will be the one that always comes up with the best solution to a problem, despite a team of equally qualified scientists thinking about the same problem.[19]
Jerk Sue is a short-tempered character who lashes out with her fists, usually at men. Intended to be a feisty, independent woman who can fight her own battles, a Jerk Sue actually comes across as an aggressive bully.[19]
Sympathetic Sue is a character full of angst. This is a type of Mary Sue who wants the reader's sympathy. Normally an emotional female character, Sympathy Sue probably had abusive parents, had a hard time growing up on the streets, saw her parents killed or is the last of her species. She cries a lot and might resort to self-harm.[19]
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The term "Mary Sue" is commonly used on characters or OC's that are thought to be overly perfect, powerful to a point of being ridiculous, and/or without a single weakness - just to name a few conditions. "Mary Sue" is used for female characters, while "Gary Stu" is used for male characters.
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Ah, now I see.
Thanks for the info.
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It's a really funny story: so there's this famous artist here on DA who created a character named Marilyn. I love her so much that I wanted to help direct a film based on her in the future when I become a director for 2-D animated movies, but there was this crazy, obsessed fan who thought I would destroy her based on the content in my channel, thinking the opposite of how I felt about the character. At one point, he mentioned "Mary Sue"... and I had no idea what he was talking about! But now I know, and it makes me laugh all the more how he thought I would turn her into that thing!
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Marilyn?
you mean that little girl with the short black hair?
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Ah, I see! Yes, people do tend to throw the term "Mary-Sue" around a bit easily. I gave you a loose explanation of exactly a Mary-Sue is, as there is much more too it, but people often use it as a last resort insult, here on dA. More often than not, they are completely incorrect, and are just ignorant to the actually definition of the term. The guy you mention sounds a bit too big a fan of said character.
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Well, thanks for that explanation, anyway. I'm more open to it, now. I don't seem to recall any characters that are Mary Sues or Gary Stus.
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He is. He thought that I was trying to take that character away and make her my own (which is not true), yet HE's the one who was acting like she's his character, setting the rules for her and trying to protect her from thieves!
At least we now have stopped arguing.
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Sadly, the amount of those types of fans is on the rise, as of recent. 99% of them just can't be reasoned with, I'm glad you were able to end the pointless bickering with him.
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Yeah. Well, her creator reasoned with him, telling him to leave me alone (you won't BELIEVE how many threat and hate journals he made towards me over something that won't happen for about 15 or 20 years!).
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Jesus! Now that's taking it way too seriously. That's is more that a little bit excessive, especially over a character that doesn't even belong to you.
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It's always a hassle when someone on the internet wants to pick a nonsense fight with you.
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Yeah. Besides, I didn't guarantee that it would happen. Her creator is grateful that I love her so much but he hasn't accepted me to become director for her film in the future. I just wanna be a director for 2-D animated films in the future so I can bring back the popularity of 2-D animation, thus making Marilyn popular too. If that doesn't happen, that's okay, I'll find some other projects to work on.
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Right on, I gotcha, bro. Sounds like a pretty sweet long term goal c:
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