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Published: 2018-12-10 10:59:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 2126; Favourites: 44; Downloads: 0
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One thing went wrong, then everything else did, and at the same time, catastrophically!Fragmented Planet - www.pixelstalk.net/wp-content/…
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I'd have loved it even more had you titled it, Trump Happened. Because imo sooner or later Donald Trump himself *will* be the cause of catastrophe; if not (I trust) on quite that scale.
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I hold the opposite view actually.
He may yet release hidden technologies that will bring a new golden age a bit closer to reality.
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Eep... again I make the mistake of assuming someone intelligent I meet can't *possibly* be a Trump supporter. I seem to be making a *lot* of faulty assumptions these days.
Well, I don't sour a perfectly good relationship airing my political view here... again. So believe in him if you want to... God only knows why you would... but I don't know what hidden tech you think he can unleash when he's trying to move us back into the 20th century rather than move us forward into the 21st. His understanding of science and technology is, as far as I can see, less now than mine was when i began grade school... in the early 1960s!
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I'm good with agreeing to disagree without being disagreeable.
I use to be a liberal minded person in the past, as well as conservative, and mainly just leave most politics in the crapper.
LOL!
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I went the oppsoite way; being conservative (and being in the military and a steady church goer will contribute to that) and steadily grew more liberal as i aged; in large part because I hated how conervatives and the religious folks dissed science so excessively.
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Anti-science is bent, even though some science is far from painting the complete picture.
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That's because science is a process that is still ongoing, and is continually self-correcting. That's an aspect of it many regular folks don't seem to understand. Scientists don't claim to have all the answers... but they've don better by us than all the priests and holy men that have ever lived have.
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Yes and no.
Some scientists are totally dogmatic in their beliefs even when contrary facts surface.
I've seen and heard of other scientists that even hide certain findings that don't support their preconceived notions.
Going along with peer consensus, as well as potential loss of tenure and research money are undeniably huge impediments to truth, especially when the money comes from government/corporate sources that have their own agendas that may be completely separate from the public's desire to learn everything there is to know.
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I never said all scientists are saints; they're only human too. I'm talking by and large however. If you doubt that, just remember that without science and technology all humanity would still be living in caves - with a total population count maybe 1% what it currently is. No electricity, no indoor plumbing, or cable, phone, or internet. What have preachers done that is even remotely comparable to that?
That last paragraph however sounds more like Republican propaganda about findings of Science they don't agree with (for the sake of their lobbyists and payola) than actual fact. And since when is peer consensus a bad thing. When you see a doctor for a problem, wouldn't you prefer they all find the problem and agree on a solution rather than each one identifying it as a different problem and with a different solution - and be right?!
Where else may i ask do you find peer consensus to be a BAD thing? Or, contrarywise, a lack of consensus to be a good thing? I don't know about you but *I* can't think of any! Thre's a lot less of that bushwa about research just for the sake of grant money and nothing else than some politicians would have you believe. They're not trying to save money; they're trying to save their own vested interests to that *they* can get a bigger piece of the pie! Many of those congressmen don't know good science from mysticism anyway. As they often openly admit themselves, they're lawyers, not scientists.
You wouldn't trust your teeth to anyone other than a trained and licensed dentist, right? So why do so many people believe how the world works from a lawyer or a pastor than from a trained physicist? I have never understood that, but please understand that much of the anti-science rhetoric you are hearing is propaganda and often pure crock!
I can't believe i'm needing to say this to an obvious scifi fan of all people!
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I understand your points of view here, and while I don't have any problem with you or anyone else having their own opinions, I also respectfully disagree with some of them.
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Which ones specifically, if you don't mind my asking.
I would have been a profssional scientist myself I might add, but couldn't afford to go out of state for the necessary training (Maine's University system lacked a decent science curriculum at the time) and really wasn't cut out for lab work anyway. So naturally I feel a little defensive here, in case you were wondering. So you're not just talking to your average joe here when it comes to science and its promotion in everyday life. I almost became a science teacher in fact. Just so you understand where *I'm* coming from.
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My major in college was Geology, and I had lab work but couldn't afford to complete my degree.
I also worked at The Science Place so have been around science all my life.
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Ummm... and you dodged my question.
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Which question specifically?
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You said "I understand your points of view here, and while I don't have any problem with you or anyone else having their own opinions, I also respectfully disagree with some of them."
And I asked you specifically which ones (opinions) you disagreed with. At least assuming you mean opinions of a scientific rather than political nature, since i was discussing science at the time. Because unlike politics, science isn't something where i think opinions really matter. Our understanding of science may be imperfect, and certainly some theories may be wrong, but in science facts are facts regardless of what we think of them.
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