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Assuming you've already seen the second movie, this is something I made after seeing the midnight premiere, as this was a question/topic on nearly everyones lips walking out of the theater.Β
We didn't dislike the movie, but this scene threw us.
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Like Iggy said, it was an attack on smaug. The statue was already there, just not complete yet. I would assume with how it burst that they just finished the foundation of it and needed to fill it in, but died before hand. I'm sure even to dragons, molten metal fucking hurts, so it was a well executed plan, just did jack shit in the long run
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That...was ALLOT of gold though for just one statueΒ
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They're dwarves man! There is no such thing as too much gold to them
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I don't mean that, i mean the amount of gold that was in that statue being able to drown smaug
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oh yeah. When I saw that amount of gold, I was like, "The hell?"
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And when he burst out of it i was waiting for him to have on sun glasses going "Deviously hot, Dangerously cheezy..."
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The Dragon species love treasure. They love hoarding it, and they will stop at nothing to keep every last coin they collect. Thorin knew that the statue wouldn't have cooled enough to remain solid, but just long enough to attract Smaug's attention and lure out his lust for treasure. Smaug wasn't expecting the statue to melt, and Thorin and the boys were hoping it was still hot enough to scald him, like the kid from the first season of Game of Thrones whose name escapes me. Unfortunately, they were wrong, and pissed Smaug off enough to make him want to take smouldering vengeance on Lake town, because that's who he'd assumed had sent them to slay him.
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I didn't get the idea of that huge thror statue either. But I think I get the idea of smaug to fly to lake town. Maybe this sounds dumb but destroying a whole city with thousend of people living in it is more painful for the dwarfs than to just kill them with fire. Maybe Smaug wants to show them how 'powerful' he is or maybe Smaug just wants to kill some people to feel strong again because he fell for that dumb plan of the dwarfs.Β idk
Sorry for my english if there's anything wrong with itΒ
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I have no quarrel with him getting to Lake Town, I just think a more practical way (for Peter Jackson)
Lure him into a melting basin, or canal, and then pour all the gold he just heated himself onto him in it/on him, and then he erupts out of that. Β They all have to hide, so they hide in the crevice of a room where all the dead dwarfs are.
Smaug can't get in at them, but then mocks them saying how he'll enjoy waiting for them to beg for death from him like their ancestors did in that very room, he can wait them out, but first....
(smashes cave opening so they cann't get out) "I'm about to go to thank those fools in lake town, personally, for sponsoring your little visit....don't go anywhere..."
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I think they thought the gold would encase him and harden. You'd think blacksmiths and miners would know better.
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Same difference, the idea was dumb
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It did submerge him for a short time. I think Thorin was hoping all that liquid gold would weigh down Smaug enough to incapacitate him. And hey, he was there when Smaug attacked Erebor. He knows how powerful Smaug is. This was probably the only idea he could summon with the materials at hand and had a chance at defeating the dragon, however small that chance was. He didn't have any Black Arrows or anything sufficiently tough to pierce his hide.
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I'm not criticizing Thorin as much as the writers who decided that should be how they tried to best Smaug
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The Desolation of Smaug is one of the worst films I have ever seen. I loved An Unexpected Journey, despite the awful CGI orcs and the silly action sequences in Goblintown, but what the hell was Peter Jackson thinking when he made DOS? I tried to like this film, I really tried, but minute after minute I grew more and more disappointed and by the end I really started to HATE it. There is so much stupidity and pointless bullshit in this film, I do not even know where to start. Worst thing is the portrayal of Smaug. Sure, he looks awesome and his voice sounds great, but despite being an intelligent, very clever dragon, he is portrayed as a silly and dumb bastard who gets hundreds of opportunities to roast the dwarves but simply does not do it. Instead, he acts like a fool and, in the end, is almost drowned in molten gold - which looked so FAKE, I started to laugh in the cinema and everyone around me stared daggers at me 
I always wondered what the fuck the filmmakers were thinking when they came up with that idiotic gold statue scene. I just do not get it. Maybe they saw just another opportunity to show off their glorious CGI - which, in all honesty, were not glorious at all but outright ridiculous and awfully cheap looking
Another aspect I really hated about DOS was the addition of Legolas into the plot and...Tauriel. Sure, she is pretty to look at and I really like the actress, but the character is annoying and does not fit into the story. She is like a cheesy OC from a badly written fanfic... Gods, I could go on with this rant forever. I hope that the last instalment of The Hobbit will be better than DOS. But I seriously doubt it. Probably it will be just like DOS, only much worse...
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I would actually argue that out of everyone that Peter Jackson randomly writes into his movies who have no place there.....LEGOLAS actually has the most reason, right and sense to be there.
I mean, I always assumed he was there in Mirkwood reading the books to be honest, I mean where the hell else would he be? He just wasn't important at the time. Β
What I do hate is how he, just like Smaug was made to look like a fool.
I was going "Dude....STOP...using a two handed weapon...you suck at it- Β No, NO, Stop. No just stop! Go back to using bows and arr- FUCK!" Β
I checked to see if he was just out of arrows, and that's why he resorted to using Orcrist, Β but NOPE, full of Arrows. Β No frigging reason.
We've seen him take out an Orc nearly a MILE away, in the dark, behind pillars, in Kazadum, why the HELL wouldn't he just shoot the Orc BLOG or whatever his name was on a linear.....STRAIGHT...BRIDG!!!
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I would not mind Legolas being in DOS, if he had just a short cameo just like Galadriel and Saruman in An Unexpected Journey. He lives in Mirkwood, so okay, just give him a short scene and it is perfectly okay, but nah, they have to turn him into one of the plot's main characters.
Strangely, everything CGI in DOS looked surprisingly cheap and fake in contrast to AUJ. Only Smaug was really cool but probably the whole money went into his creation... I seriously do not know what happened to this film. It had so much potential but then somewhere, something went terribly wrong.
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Here's what I always refer to in terms of this kind of source material breach....
Eagles at the Gates of Mordor. Β
Arwen saving Frodo.
Frigging Lorian Elves at the holds of Helms Deep! YET, we all loved those movies.
I will excuse certain things that aren't in the book as long as they don't jostle them out of proportion. My problem with DOS is not that there's a character who doesn't exist, with a non existing love triangle with a character who was never recorded there. Β
It's how sappily careless they were in doing it.Β
When the Elves arrived at helms deep (When to be honest it would have made more sense for it to be dwarves) it was interwoven with the theme and with the characters we'd met, we know that Elves had these reservations and it was time to let go of old prejudices. Β In the long and short of it it was just to give those in Helms Deep more bodies to throw at the Orc's for a cool fight, but...it was all that AND that.
Here, the Love triangle's blatantly ....there for being there's sake. Β How they meet is very...abrupt and jarring. Β Now if he had perhaps encountered her in the wood, tied up by spiders when they were all escaping and cut her free and the moment she woke she started kicking ass all by herself and he was like "Damn...." Β Β then it would make sense because Kili'd be a dwarf that saved her life ,and she would go through the rest of the story wondering why and then her talking to him behind bars would seem a little less "Um...why?" Β Β Not to mention having the Orcs invade Lake Town and her being there to stop it isn't a bad concept in a movie that needs filler here and there (BUT OMG NOT THAT MUCH FILLER)
It isn't exactly a love triangle either at least a consensual one, seeing as how she doesn't care for Legolas, that's one sided, and his father's a dick who's saying "You can tap, but don't put a ring on it, you lowly guard you." Β Β
If this had been written in a way it would've explained how Legolas begins to see how not all dwarves were bad, and we be able to TELL that from just this movie alone, It would've been perfect.Β
Think of how LOTR used Faramir's scene of capturing Gollum and Β used that to turn all the progress we saw him have with Frodo on his head, that was brilliant . Β I'm just saying, this movie was LAZY.
Lazy in how it handled Smaug, how it handled the elf characters, Lazy y with how they handled Beorn... andΒ especially, Lazy with how they handled Gandalf at Dogul Dur
The part in the movie i'll always love it for however would be when they make it so the ring is translating what the spiders are saying, not going to lie, i geeked.
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My speculations of the statue are that the gold was meant to weigh him down and drown Smaug.
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While this makes sense to me that was one of the dumbest ways Jackson could've chosen to do it
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Well for starters, why the hell building a giant statue, in hopes he'd go into that room...right there, on the spot, was a good idea, which didn't work.
Two, why Smaug decided "Screw you, I'm flying to lake town"...when the dwarves were unhidden, and right...**cking, there.
Three, why the movie didn't do it simply and lure him into one of the pouring galley's and then pour the gold into that in hopes of drowning him and scaulding him that way.Β
Four, the statue looked like melted cheese
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<_< I thought it would've worked...until it didn't.Β
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So Β did they apparentlyΒ
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You know Peter Jackson?
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That is, my OP wasn't meant entirely seriously, as you seem to have taken it. However, I'm surprised by how certain you seem to be.
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That it isn't a GoT reference. Pouring melted gold on a "dragon", you know? Of course there's the "Smaug the Golden" reference at the same time, and a chance for PG to go hog wild with the CG, as usual.Β I'm not arguing with you about it being stupid - it was.
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What are you talking about?!
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The dwarves plan was mean't to be poetic justice...It was the dwarf kings greed for gold that summoned Smaug in the first place. The giant statue was mean't to stand for all eternity as a symbol of the King under the mountains power, Smaug had proclaimed himself as King under the mountain so the melting statue is used to symbolies the fate of those who seek to claim power in the name of greed...that being that all their power would melt away and they would be forgotten.
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And was a stupid ass move on their part and should have thanked their lucky dwarven stars that Smaug's next move after coming out of the gold was to eat them all...considering they were standing, right, there
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They had already proven that they could out manouver Smaug... so instead of wasting anymore time playing with them Smaug decided to flush them out by attacking the town...and thus he has sealed his fate
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