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It was fucking brilliant.
Since 2007 they've prepared us to "destroy the Reapers" and 5 years later we were hit in the face with space magic.
SO Shepper caaan:
- Become a Reaper Machine God! ...y?
- Become... part of every living thing in the galaxy! ...wait what?
- Refuse and show how big of a dick s/he is! ...uh...
- ...Actually destroy the Reapers... which is considered the worst ending by the writers... ha-ha-lol!
And you know what? Beside the comic. Why Catalyst didn't take the form of Ashley, Kaidan or someone from ME2 if someone died. Even fucking Leroy L. Jenkins would be better than WTF Star Child. Shepard cried over him only because Bioware threw some money to create his 3D model so Shepard was sad s/he will never see another child in Mass Effect, duh.
Shepper and The Little Shit from ME3 ending (c): BioWare
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It's kind of amazing how, from beginning to end, my biggest gripes about ME3 all revolved around that fucking kid!
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I still hate all possibilleties you got at the end. Atleast 2 of them are indoctrinated endings.
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This sums up my feelings about the video game. I was all, "Fuck this, I'm destroying the reapers." At least my FemShep gets the capability of possibly reuniting with her Gare-bear since she survives. Seriously, synthesis is ridiculous. That's what they used to make husks. Thank you for this comic. It made me lol.
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Lmao. I love, love Shep's face in the last panel. Pure indignation. Mother-fracking holo brat from hell.
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I had hoped that the reapers would turn out to be more benign than we make them out to be. That they harvest all the sentient beings in the galaxy and build sort of a super brain (which is the organic part of the reaper) that contained all the history, knowlege, memories and emotions of the harvested induviduals. Thereby saving or preserving the intelligent species in the reapers while allowing new species to evolve that would otherwise never have a chance at life.
The argument would be that for every reaper destroyed immesurable amounts of knowlege, history and philosphical reasoning would be lost, and that in 50 000 years from now the humans and the other species of the galaxy would probably have stagnat civilizations and overall have the galaxy in way worse shape than if the reapers had just done their thing.
Atleast then it would make some sense why destroying the reapers would be the worst ending...
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...Shepard is INDOCTRINATED...
That is all. How would he survive? INDOCTRINATION.
How'd he understand Prothean stuff? INDOCTRINATION.
How'd he understand Sovereign? INDOCTRINATION.
How'd he weaken Sovereign? INDOCTRINATION.
Why did he join Cerberus? INDOCTRINATION.
Harbinger's 'kind words'? INDOCTRINATION.
Why is he like a husk? INDOCTRINATION.
Lucid dreams, black? INDOCTRINATION.
Immortality? INDOCTRINATION.
"This sings a victory to you, a star system sacrificed." -Harbinger.
"Technology is NOT a straight line... [Rephrased due to memory fault] All paths can lead to the same result; the path chosen is more important than the result." - LEGION, accidentally foreshadowing the conclusion, but showing how it makes sense.
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You fuck up the whole galaxy no matter what you do. Thank you for playing.
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This sums up the core problem of ME3's ending and why I think the Extended Cut was still a big steaming load.
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The Catalyst's logic is so flawed...
I'd love to sic Kirk on him. Two minutes, and that little shit is toast.
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Yeah...at the ending I pretty much just stared at the screen for five minutes while the fact that they just shat on all time and effort I put into the game, sink in.Β
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Reaper God...moral of the story: when faced with the main powerful villain of evil, you don't become it.
Part of every living thing in the galaxy...not enough particals for DNA and it would break apart within seconds.
Refuse and show 'how big of a dick s/he is'...refusing to listen to an insane insane AI isn't being a, qoute, 'dick', unqoute. It's standing up to the villain who is a character appears in the last seconds and says that robots must harvest organics because robots rebelled against the organic creators, proving how insane all fans, characters and writers are. Because you don't want to listen to the truth, only bask in the dark, musky pit that you'll get cooked alive after the musky, liquid oil that is all over your body.
Destroy the Reapers...the Child is that stupid he cannot reprogram the Crucible to target ONLY Reapers, considering he is the most smartest AI in galaxy and couldn't build the Crucible itself.
And EA is not to be blamed, only Mac Walters and Casey Hudson. They oblirerated the series and ME has become nothing more than a broken hole in a book, filled with conjecture, lies, brick-brained characters (including Shepard himself) and plots being changed whenever it feels like.
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Actually, this is probably what happens in Destroy. The Crucible targets Reapers... Or rather EVERY SINGLE PIECE of Reaper tech. That's why the geth and EDI are destroyed. It's mentioned that a huge part of EDI's hardware used to be Nazara's and I can't believe that the geth didn't get some "upgrades" when allying themselves with the Reapers, because I don't think the code would be enough and the Reapers seem like the "if I'm going down, you are going down with me" kind of guys.Β
Still, I don't defend the endings, this was a freaking stupid idea, they could at least do this (and add more levels on the "good-bad ending scale"):Β
Destroy Obliteration (worst possible): Kick a player in the ass for not preparing, just please don't require DLC's to get a perfect ending. Everything the wave reaches is destroyed.
Destroy Bad: Organics almost unharmed, but all tech is damaged beyond repair, resulting in heavy casualties to every species, anybody who weren't on a life-supporting planet dies, every life support system breaks down (including quarian suits).
Destroy Neutral (Worse): Smaller, more fragile and/or unsecured tech is damaged beyond repair, bigger and/or more secured networks can be repaired, however it takes time, (if made peace between them and the quarians, the geth are somewhat restored, but back to the "pre-Morning War" state (not sentient, don't have any data on what is going on, lost all mobile platforms and ships), otherwise they are destroyed completely), other AIs die, the relay network is destroyed, leaving the fleets stranded on Earth.
Destroy Neutral (Better):Smaller, more fragile and/or unsecured tech is heavily damaged, but finally repaired, bigger and/or more secured networks are more or less untouched but shut down, the geth are somewhat restored, sentient, but suffering from heavy data loss (if made peace between them and the quarians, they help them fill the "holes", otherwise, the geth turn their back on organics) lost all mobile platforms and ships, other AIs heavily damaged, EDI restored, but suffers from data loss, the relay network is destroyed, leaving the fleets stranded on Earth, but the information found in Reaper corpses leaves hope...
Destroy Good: All tech is slightly damaged, repairs are made in the matter of months, the geth and other AIs survive, but the geth lose many mobile platforms and ships, the relay network is disabled, but the info found in Reaper corpses helps in repairs.
Destroy Perfect: All tech shuts down, but is immediatly restored to full functionality, the geth survive as well as other AIs, relay network deactivated, but quickly repaired. Shepard survives.Β
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I don't mind coming up ideas for Mass Effect 3's ending, and I got respect for those that think carefully about the situation and how to attack it properly. The writers knew NOTHING how to make a sequel, because those who had an idea either left entirely or didn't get enough attention and was left in the dust. People like youself has more value and thought into the story than what Mac, Hudson and anyone involved in the writing team. Your idea is good on pen and paper, and if it was executed just right...well, we'd have an ending that didn't piss in our mouths. The worst ending in storytelling will always stay there, and with Andromeda...thats not how you do a spin off of the franchise.
And since we're talking about ideas, I'll throw my two cents in the "what could have been" discussion. I think the Reapers flying into a sun would be suitable and better than having Reapers lying around. It is stated that if you stand near a Reaper for TOO long, and considering that they'll still risk indoctrination in dragging the corpses to suns like in Paragon Lost, it is a bad thing. I don't mind Destroy, but for Control, we would've had an overide command for all Reapers to go into a sun. That would have been much more beneficial.
Hell, on a live vid of Smudboy, his friend (or Smud himself) said something about the Andromeda Inititative being an escape plan incase the Crucible wasn't good enough. If they had incorporated that idea into the fourth title, it'd give the audience a reason WHY the galaxy wouls be going to another galaxy. Not "Oh wow, we found another galaxy through Geth tech! Lets become an SJW network and go there! Fuck logic and reasoning, we can do whatever we want because we like space travel and taking over planets!".
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It's really sad that people who worked on ME (and ME2, but the errors start here) just left.
I can't say that my idea is good, it's just a little fix for an ending that is shitty anyways. My main intention was to make the choices and the player's effort put into a playthrough matter a bit more than they did. Maybe even throw in a few choices that would affect the relays. The ending is still weird and irrational. We were always told that with enough time and effort put in preparations, we could save everyone or downplay the casualties to riddiculous numbers. Like the geth-quarian peace (instead of losing one race we lost only Legion which is a load of BS, but I'm not talking about that), calming Wrex down on Virmire (it was Virmire where Ash could shoot him, right? I don't remember), both using Paragon/Renegade options (very high score required) or a possibility to save both: your squadmates and the crew in ME2 if you started preparations early enough. And what do we get? Soneone else gives us three options and MAKING YOUR OWN UNPREDICTABLE CHOICE IS THE WORST THING POSSIBLE (Refusal ending). The fact that the endings are named is a proof of that. World is not a computer. You can't have binary choices (yes, the player had them, but from Shepard's point of view they are not so binary), even four options aren't good enough. The final choice should alter the ending the least. Or rather decide only about Shepard's fate. Not everyone's. Those choices should be made way earlier in the game.
I've heard about this "Andromeda escape plan" thing as well and I was so pissed when I found out that it was scrapped.
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Only because I spent too much time making peace between the Geth and the Quarian that I did not chose to destroy the reapers. These 4 endings are really the worst any writer could think of.
Red: Being a dick and kill million of lives you just saved
Blue: Losing your humanity to control the Reapers hoping that you wont come to the same conclusion as the starchild
Green: basically you destroy every chance of evolving of every species in the galaxy cause now everything is synthesis
Abandon all: You just spent more than 100 hours of playing from ME 1 to 3 to know that you still lose.
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I agree. I didn't Destroy, just because it would obliterate everything my favourite character from the series fought and (sort of) died for. And Synthesis would render his sacrifice useless. This is the only reason I chose Control (the indoctrination theory doesn't make sense to me).
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I'm guessing you have just finished the gameΒ 
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I finished it a while ago, I'm just pissed off after replaying.
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Actually if you pay a bit more attention you'll realize that the ''destroy'' ending is the correct one
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_Gβ¦
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Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Here, have some red things, friend!
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hmm i never heard of some suggestions which ending is good or bad...it is choice...i always waned destroy reapers...destroyed them....i was happy...ok should be really 100% better if my femshep just shoot the starchild with FU quote and midfingered harbringer behind window andΒ then blow up reapers ....renegade hell yea
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Everyone blame BioWare, but the real enemies are the rEApers. Come on, hate them, not BW.
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Yeah that would be a cool effect if it was Kaiden/Ash. to maybe the original Shep from ME 1. Play it off that Shepard after Lazarus wasn't entirely the same Shep.
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there was so much options....
i definetly most luv the indocrination theory....on example: reapers exists million years and faced all inteligent species thousand times, they are prepared to deal with any thread and know how to push ourΒ button.... so aftre talk with starchild you chose control? fu dude you was indocrtinated by the candy words so you dont wanna destroy them anymore and after 5 years of beign prepared to destroy them you failed...became deluded as the ilusive man...starchild convinced you to not destroy them...last hope failed...reapers won-liara beacon ending
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Ah yes, Catalyst endings. WeΒ have dismissed those claims.
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Destroy.
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Every. Single. Time.
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Take that, space magic.
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Β This was one of first, and hopefully fewest, endings that actually made me emotionally depressed. I couldn't even touch my XBox 360 for a week.
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I totally agree. I think writers missed something in making ME3
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you mean the EA leadership and almost non ifluence of kaspynsky or how is that name which had main part in writig ME1?
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Thanks for reminding me of this dramatically useless kid that forced me to play those dull, uninteresting and out of place nightmare sequences D:
At least they could've put a little effort in the ending and not just saying "Nah, we're gonna rip off the ending of Matrix and Star Trek V and make it lame". This ending really made me keeping my hands off ME for almost 2 years now. It really took the replay value of the games and smashed it to pieces.
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Bioware logic: It's a dead child, so you HAVE to connect to it. Emotional connection? What's that?Β
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And Let's now start a club with Jenkins as the Star god.
It would have been brilliant
I guess the kid was actually chosen because he was a civilian that Shepard could not save, an innocent child while the people we lost were somewhat prepared with the idea of death.
Ps: Fanfic and webcomics are my headcanon
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kid was good choice....it was just bad handlet...seriously child during a reaper invasion of 3km tall boogieman?...he will be scared to the bone jumping on shepardsΒ leg holding it for salvation....could be so much more emotional if child accompanied shepard and Anderson...and was killed during last scenes...mby with some classy hangover where shep failed the chance to catch him...that is damn reason to have nightmares...
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It's true it's a civilian, but the kid WAS prepared to die, he even accepted the idea, as he tells Shepard that there's nothing (s)he can do to save him.
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true, I had never thought of it this way
So let's found the "Jenkin as the Star-God" club XD
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And why cant we fix the good AI after destroying the bad one? I mean, if we can build them once, why can,t we do it again?
Β I really want Bioware to have mass effect 4Β to be a sequel that canonize the destroy ending. Β
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Here my 1 cent... (not even 2 cent)
Shepard watched helplessly as the kid at the beginning died, ultimately there was nothing she could do to help him. Β Take him off earth so he can die in some refugee camp? Β He in someway knew the world (galexy) was coming to an end. Β I believe the cayalyst chose this form to play on shepherds emotions. Β To me when I saw the star child it signified a chance as a second chance to save the kid/organic life. The star child is a symbol not just a kid is what I'm getting at.
I personally think killing the reapers was the best option. :d
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I always picked the destroy ending, sorry geth.
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Truth be told, the ending didn't even bother me. Some of the more... immature fan reaction pissed me a whole lot more. Still, funny. Anyway, now that Citadel is out, ME has the ending it deserves: the whole gangs goes on a CRAZY mission... then kick the reapers in their collective ass and go home in time for the Bio-ball finale.
 Have a good week, ma chère.
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Oop, wrong thread , don't bother me
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Comrades, it has been more than a year now, yet any mention of the ending of ME3 and we still work ourselves into a frenzy. Should we get a life ( to quote William Shatner)? Or are we unhappy consumers who need their money back?Β
Clearly something is amiss to stir this much ... Emotion.
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Actually, it's nearly two years and I will always be an unhappy consumer. The ending tainted the whole fucking series.
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