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Finally, I finished it This was supposed to be submitted for Valentine's Day
Well, at least the drawing was completed in February (I forgot there were only 28 days haha)Slippy & Amanda walking as a couple
(and the epic fail of a walking Slippy 
) This is a full body pic of the image in Star Fox Command, but I didn't manage to do them as close as they are on the image. Look at that weird arms bound together 
As for their second hands, I wanted Amanda to have her arm behind her back. I don't think it's weird. But I swear I tried to do Slippy's. It just wouldn't come right. So I hid it xD. Let's say they both carry a Valentine gift behing their back for each other 
As for Amanda's suit, let's say it's my take on it. I can't satisfy myself with simple suit designs it seems ^^ Slippy does not carry his belt from Assault because he is on a date haha. As for their eyes, if you have already seen a real frog, this is what they look like. I do Katt's and Miyu's eyes with slit pupils as they are felines, so I thought I would give the frogs their species' eyes too
This is a traditionnal art, as usual, but edited with pixlr.com. This software is really useful !! Thanks for Riku-D for telling me about it
The blue color of the background was done there as well. But I did a blue colored background for them, it just wasn't dark enough for the scanner, only some lines remained, so the blue digital background was to complete the drawing. I guess I am becoming fed up with my characters floating in the void xDΒ Maybe this might be considered as a mixed media art ?Slippy, Amanda, Star Fox (c) Nintendo
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I don't see a lot of this pair. Nice to see more.
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Glad you like it !! 
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You're welcome. Keep rockin' and rollin'.
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I hope I'll do !
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I'll be a little honest, while I think Slippy is ok, I really don't like Amanda. Why? Well for several reasons. 1 she's only a love interest and pilot, that's it. No other character development other then that. 2, she looks weird for my taste in Star Fox characters like the animals and color skins, since I'm not into frogs. 3 there is nothing so far that makes her likable or interesting outside of the stuff from Command, since she's the most forced character in Star Fox I've seen by far. Sure there's Dash and Lucy, but to be honest there are some character development from those 2 and makes them more interesting. Like Dash is Oikonny's cousin and Andross's grandson and a Cornerian Pilot, and Lucy is an Scientist on outer space, Peppy's daughter, and a pilot under Peppy's wing. In future installments (not the disappointing Zero) I hope to see more development form these 2 and learn more on their characters, Amanda has no character other than a love interest Pilot, argue all you want that's she has character development, but not enough to make her likable in my book. She's the most forced character by far.
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I completely agree with you on that. Amanda has no development, Command screw the characters because of it, that's why Amanda, Lucy & Dash receive so little love from the fans. Lucy & Dash don't have much development and Amanda has like zero. But in the fanfiction I am writing I will try to use them all, and since they have little to none character development I try to built up one. And since she cannonically end up with Slippy, I use her nonotheless.
I wish we would see them again in Star Fox Zero, as well as Miyu & Fay from Star Fox 2, but it doesn't seem to be happening. Even Krystal might not be in it. So yeah, let's pray for future games ! ^^
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Well, you have to admit Lucy and Dash are more interesting characters than Amanda that's for sure. Besides, so far in one of my game ideas I only got Lucy a bit developed, where she'll serve a bit of the plot with the Star Fox team on Fichina (artwork in my gallery). I also doubt that we'll see Amanda, Lucy and Dash in Zero since they didn't show up in the past (I'll take a small bet that Lucy may show up in one of the levels like Fichina). As for Miyu and Fay, well it's not gonna happen since they never appear in every game and only been mentioned in the comics (I think). Krystal is not coming in, which really bothers the living hell out of me (why Nintendo? bring her back in the next game and probably dlc. besides she's a fan favorite in Star Fox, why make another pointless prequel?) For the future, I hope things go back to normal by continuing the story where it left of after Assault (which is my favorite and the best game in the series).
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Maybe Lucy might appear, but even this in unlikely. Though that would be nice !
Miyu & Fay appeared in the cancelled Star Fox 2, which became later Lylat Wars, and it seems that they were turned into Bill & Katt. But if th developers listened their fans for once they would put them back in the games, as well as Krystal. They CAN'T ditch Krystal since she is a favourite, as you said. And I agree with you with Assault being the best of the games !
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Well a little note on Bill and Katt, I did made 2 videos regarding their future Star Fox voices, since Assault's cast is currently the future cast (in terms of timeline, not games like the unforgivable Zero). So here's a little link to see if anyone questions their future voices. Another note to point out is that Nintendo is lucky that they somewhat brought something to keep us Krystal and Panther fans from whining with Command on Wii U (why Command and not Adventures and Assault? Do it in the future Nintendo.) As for a matter of fact, I'm still gonna bitch and moan until I see something new, like a game with Krystal actually staying and developing the romance.
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Agreed on that ! And this game would be awesome if we could control Krystal and have on-foot missions like in Assault !
I saw some in-progress fangames that seem promising too, I hope they can be playable one day.
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Thank you !
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You're welcome! You think you might draw more?
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Oh, I will draw more, for sure ! Just need tiiiiime so desperately. College is taking my beloved time away with those stupid assignments, and I'm very slow and not eager at all when it comes to work. When this shit will be done I will be able to return to drawing, but I have to do my requests first, otherwise people will wait forever ^^
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Well done. This really looks good.
I even like how you drew Amanda, even though Amanda is a character I usually don't like much.
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Thank you !!
I didn't thought much about Amanda either at the beginning, when I first saw her. But I find it cool that Slippy finally has someone, and she fits with Slippy quite well. Then, because of the lack of information about Star Fox characters, especially on the new ones such as Krystal, Panther, Lucy or Amanda for instance (I like knowing everything about characters xD), I tried to work on her personnality a bit more and think about a full-body design for her. I am satisfied with her now ^^
And well, they make a lovely couple
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You're welcome.
Well, I didn't really like the character design in Command. I think that's part of the reason why I don't like Amanda much (I like Lucy, though. It just took me some time to get used to her design). However, I wouldn't mind if Amanda was still incorporated into the next StarFox game as long as they give her a credible role. Well, she was quite suitable as Slippy's girlfriend in Command. Personally I didn't like her much as she seemed awfully bossy. However, because Slippy isn't exactly the kind of guy a lot of people would fall for either I think it makes her a more plausible girlfriend for him. Plus she seemed to have some good traits too to compensate for her bad ones.
What I really disliked about Amanda though, is, that nothing apart from her being Slippy's girlfriend is known about her. For some reason she seems to be a pilot too and to be able to fight in battles. Nonetheless Slippy apparently quit his job as he became her boyfriend which doesn't make a lot of sense. Just like Lucy most of the things that are known about her don't hint towards her being some kind of soldier/mercenary etc. (Lucy even is stated to have a different job) but nonetheless she can fly and fight as well as everyone else who has years of experience and has actually learned to do so.
Yet, I guess the ultimate reason why I can more easily ignore the flaws in Lucy's characterization and role than in Amanda's are their personalities. Amanda just isn't a character I can care much about. Your design of Amanda makes her look a bit more likable though.
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I totally agree with you. I must say that I was bewildered when I first saw Command's designs. Especially Katt's (where does this complete change even comes from ?!?). In my opinion Command was botched, like the developpers didn't know what to put in the game, so they put all their ideas and turned it into a far-fetched multiple-endings game full of incoherences to get rid of the series. Hopefully the next Star Fox game will be a good one !!
I like Amanda & Lucy, probably because they are unloved characters. I've never seen much about them anywhere (though Lucy is more loved than Amanda). What's more, as you said, I like Amanda as Slippy's girlfriend because Slippy isn't someone one would fall for easily (although they fell in love at first look ^^)
I really would like to know why she is able to pilot a ship like she did it all her life. For Lucy it is explained, but where the heck do Amanda's abilities come from ??
There is no character from the Star Fox series that I actually don't like. I like them all, even Slippy ^^ I am writing a fanfiction, and they all appear (at least I try to do so), the only one who doesn't appear is Fara Phoenix, not because I don't like her but for story purposes. I will draw them all some day, in a very loing time haha
I'm glad my design for Amanda makes her more likeable for you, I hope it works for people as well
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I didn't like Katt's redesign either, though i couldn't be bewildered because of it as I knew Command before I knew StarFox 64, but her pink version definitely suits her personality better than the one in Command.
Since Command was the first StarFox-game I ever played I wasn't too shocked by its flaws but I definitely like the other games better, Assault being my favorite StarFox-game thus far.
One thing that always disturbed me about Command, though, is that wherever you go you always have the GraetFox with you - even in the mission on Venom where you play as StarWolf... and Rob is there too. It doesn't make any sense at all. They could at least have given StarWolf their own mother-ship and robot... but that's just one of it's many illogic parts.
I also don't really dislike any StarFox character but Amanda is one of my least favorites and I think if she existed in the real world and I ever met her we'd absolutely not get along... but I don't think I'd get along well with my favorite StarFox characters either. Even though Slippy isn't one of my favorites I think he's actually a really important character for the interactions between the members of the StarFox team. A lot of their dialogues would be less fun if Slippy didn't exist and of course since he's a great mechanic he's important for StarFox's success too.
Yeah, it's always nice if a fanfic is trying to treat all the characters fair. I don't like it a lot if one can tell from reading someones fanfic which characters the author likes less than others. But that can't be a problem in your story since you like them all.
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My first Star Fox game was Star Fox 64 3D, and I discovered the series in Super Smash Bros Brawl, so you can guess Command's designs were far from what I had been used to ^^ My favorite game from the series is Assault too !
In Command, for the gameplay to be the same in all missions, it needed one center point, being the Great Fox. It's true that Rob would never have followed Wolf and his team on Venom, it would have been more logic to not involve the Great Fox in the game. But that would have changed the gameplay completely.
Yep, Slippy is there from the beginning. The series wouldn't be the same without him. I think my least favorite character would be Andrew Oikonny. It's funny he is obsessed with his "uncle Andross", but it becomes annoying. I don't like Pigma either.
Yeah, I've read countless fics dealing with Fox & Falco, or with Fox & Krystal, and Slippy only appearing needing help - or not appearing at all, for that matter. What I am doing in my fic is to try to include them all, making them all important and useful in the story. The plot isn't even centered on my OCs but on Krystal, as she is the one who will be the most related to the ennemy. And I will developp the characters' relationships in it, I won't focus on only one couple but on every couple appearing in my fic. (This is gonna be long, so long... ^^)
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Brawl also was what got me interested in StarFox. I knew it existed since Melee but I never bothered to look up what it actually was till I played Brawl - maybe because Wolf wasn't playable and because the StarFox characters didn't have a lot of dialogues they could talk while one was playing in Melee.
Yeah, but that center point Command's missions need wouldn't have needed to be the GreatFox all the time. StarWolf could have had their own big ship they need to make sure doesn't get blown up. I don't think it would have been too much effort to change the design a little and give it another name.
Well, I of course don't like Pigma and Andrew either as people but I think as evil characters in a game they're pretty suitable. I'm glad they took them off of the StarWolf-team after 64 though and gave them different roles. Pigma and Andrew simply are people StarFox couldn't easily work together with since Pigma caused James death and Fox caused Andross death but I prefer StarWolf to not just be evil counterparts to each of the StarFox members like they were in 64 but to be somewhere in between good and evil like they were in Assault (it's good they were just enemies in 64 though).
I actually think Pigma was done quite well in 64. He of course is absolutely repulsive but that gave him a lot of personality - even if only negative traits.
Unfortunately Slippy really doesn't get treated too well in a lot of fanfics. Even though I of course know people consider him annoying it at first surprised me how many people actually do so. He never actually annoyed me; there merely are other characters I think are more interesting.
I don't mind at all if a story mainly focuses on a few characters though, if they're my favorites I might even like that, but I usually don't read fanfiction that is depicting a character in a very negative way I don't consider cannon.
So Krystal is the one most related to the enemies? Then they're probably from Cerinia or were involved in its destruction?
All couples? A few of them are obvious but who is paired with whom in your story?
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Wolf's addition in Brawl sure was a good thing ! Too bad he has been retired from SSB4
The Great Wolf
Indeed, Pigma and Andrew are good villains, they are easy to hate but this is part of why they are good villains. I agree too for Star Wolf's evolution from enemies in 64 toΒ somewhere between good and evil in Assault. They are mercenaries, after all, so they do their job, even if it is considered as bad. And that gives them even more potential as characters.
Pigma was a pretty good villain, I would have used him in my story if he wasn't dead. (I consider him dead, I don't involve somewhat still living cube of remnants of Pigma in my fanfiction. Just... nope.)
I also like when the story focus a little more on my favorite characters. But a fic which is supposed to deal with the entire Star Fox team, in which you see everybody except Slippy ? This is not "the entire Star Fox team".
Warning, spoilers ahead ! ^^
Well, indeed, the enemy is related to Cerinia. He used to be a citizen of that planet, and survived its destruction. His only goal in life now is revenge. But a blind pitiless revenge. He doesn't care much if Andross is already dead (I follow the idea that Andross is somehow linked to Cerinia's destruction), he wants to destroy Andross's planet and the people living there (Corneria). He doesn't care that Andross has been banned, he doesn't care that said people weren't aware of Andross's activities about Cerinia. He just want to shed the blood of the population of a whole planet, like it happened for Cerinia. He wants the people of the Lylat System to understand what it feels like to lose everybody you knew and cared for.
The most dangerous things about this enemy is that he is very cunning, charismatic and knows how to deal with public opinion. I can't tell more, otherwise there will be no suspense ! xD But I'm trying to do a real bad guy who will be a suitable villain, who yet somewhat has reasons to have turned evil.
The pairings in my story will be : Fox & Krystal, Slippy & Amanda, Falco & Roxy as the main couples, and I will also deal with Bill & Fay (I like them together), Katt & her blue cat from the comic (even though she will fight with Roxy for Falco's attention beforehand). I will also put some not as happy part, as I will do an one-sided relationship between Fox & Miyu : Fox being in love with Krystal, he will end up with her, but Miyu has feelings for the leader; and them trying to date when Fox & Krystal's relationship being rocky will somewhat complicates the situation. I kinda thought about pairing Miyu with Panther after that, but I feel like it's just for pairing Miyu, so I'm not quite sure. I also hesitated pairing my other OC Kira with Panther, but again I feel something is off. Maybe I should not pair her at all. All the other ones (Wolf, Leon, Lucy, etc...) won't have a pairing in my fic, because I don't want to do any weird pairing (like Wolf & Lucy, where does that idea even comes from ??) and I don't feel the urge to create another OC. Maybe, if I find OCs that I love (and that are not paired with Falco, like the ones I love, not with any already taken character in my fic), I could ask their creator whether I could integrate them in my story.
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XD Yeah, naming his mothership 'GreatWolf' would make Wolf look like a really unimaginative person who might be a tad bit too obsessed with his rival. Having two mercenary teams with similar names is alright but that'd just be too much.
Indeed, that Pigma-cube was weird. It's like Command desperately tried to imply every character just to have them there no matter if it made sense or not. I also don't like what they did with Andrew. It was alright to bring him back but they could have given him an a bit more interesting or unique role instead of just making him yet another silly enemy just like all those fish.
Villains who have a reason to be evil often are a good thing in stories. Most of the time they're simply more interesting characters than someone who is plain evil just because they've been born that way.
Yet, in spite of all the mental pain he definitely has been put through by the destruction of his planet, it also takes a certain amount of craziness to turn to such means for taking revenge on someone no longer alive - but that's a good thing, I guess.
Well, those all seem to be quite plausible pairings. I personally like cannon pairings or pairings that at least make sense better than random ones (though everyone can of course pair whoever they want to, it's not like I would hate a fanfic just because it includes a pairing I don't like - if it focuses on that pairing then maybe I'd rather not read it, though, since romance isn't my favorite genre anyways)
Miyu and Panther doesn't sound too odd, I guess, but not every character in a story necessarily needs a lover. There are other kinds of relationships and interpersonal interactions that can help flesh out characters and keep a story entertaining after all.
If a character truly fits well into your story including them mightn't be a bad idea, but personally I think it's also possible to have too many characters in a story, or at least it gets more difficult to write a story well if there are too many characters especially if they don't have unique roles that are important for the story. I'm currently not writing anything but when I was it was difficult for me to develop the personalities of all characters well and give them all roles that made sense in my story and were not too much alike each other if I used too many characters. Other people might have more talent for handling many characters at a time and if it's fanfiction it mightn't be as much of a problem because most readers will already know the character's names and won't that easily loose track of them.
Well, anyways, once I completely ruined a story I was writing simply by trying to fit too many characters into it. Of course it differs from story to story and probably from author to author how many too many characters are and it also makes a difference if there are a lot of main-characters or if some are just side-characters. (Not saying you shouldn't include more characters if you feel like it of course, after all it's your story and you know best what you want to do with it, plus there isn't that a huge amount of cannon StarFox-characters and if the story is quite long it should be able to handle them and a few more)
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I don't have much to say beside I quite agree with everything you said ^^
Indeed, they just used Andrew as another enemy among the enemies. It wouldn't have been any change if he had been another Anglar instead.
I usually find plain evil characters born to be evil kinda boring, because okay, there are evil, but that's all. I like characters with a bit more of psychology, because of all the character development that comes along. And I think I have a soft spot for craziness xD Believe me, I have quite a bunch of someway crazy characters ! But usually they aren't the villains of the story. I have to work more on villains' development, because in a story I'm writing, I have already the outline of the plot ready, I know the ending, I've begun writing it, but I don't even know who the villain is yet
His revenge is pretty much selfish, because he just wants people to suffer the same loss as he did, it has become an obsession.
Sure, not all characters need mates, that would be quite much to handle, and it would seem like I would try to pair everyone for a "super crazy heavenly happy ending, yay !!" Nope. That's why I probably won't pair Miyu and Panther.
If a fan-character fits well in the story, he/she would probably just appear quickly and wouldn't have much of a prominent role, because I wouldn't feel comfortable using someone else's character, I might misinterpret the behavior or such.
Well, having a handful of charactersΒ might be quite a challenge, but that is going to be a nice training for me, as I have another story of mine dealing with a bunch of main protagonists. I get your point and I agree, when there are too much characters it is easy to lose track of them, especially in novels, because the reader doesn't know the protagonists; the writer on the other hand knows them perfectly and everything makes sense for him. I hope I will be able to manage all that well !
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Indeed, crazy people are awesome in stories - no matter if they're evil or not - as long as they are not completely alienated from reality to the point where they can't even react to anything going on around them. They need to still be able to interact with people and things around them and make sense in their very own odd way. Well, this doesn't mean that I mind if they hallucinate or live in their own little world to some extent but I think in most stories they still need to stay in touch with the actual world of the story too.
So, do you already know vaguely how the villain in your StarFox-fic is supposed to look like and just didn't draw him yet or do you not have any concept at all yet? Anyways what species is he?
Yeah, that makes sense. It's easy to misinterpret someone else's character especially if you don't have sufficient information about them.
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Yes, it's obvious. A character not able to interact with the world he lives in is totally meaningless, in my opinion. Except if he is on drugs, but that would be for a short period of time ^^
I honestly have no idea
Yep, that's why I don't want to take any risk.
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Well, that there's next to nothing known about Cerinia only means that, no matter what you decide, it can't be wrong. All that really counts is how you like to imagine Cerinia and how it would fit into your story well.
Of course the next StarFox-game could reveal more about the disappeared planet but I think that's highly unlikely. Therefore, everything will most probably stay up to ones own imagination.
As far as I know different people writing StarFox fanfiction come up with very different versions when it comes to what anthropomorphic species live in the Lylat-Sytem anyways. There are some in whose Lylat-System every vertebrate species existing in the real world exists in an anthropomorphic form, sometimes though not very often people even use invertebrate anthropomorphs in their stories or drawings, and in other people's version of the Lylat-System only the species the cannon characters are and a few more exist as anthropomorphs.
Both possibilities and everything in between have their reasons and advantages and like with the rest of the Lylat-System it's entirely up to you how you like Cerinia best.
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Indeed, the lack of info about Star Fox gives the opportunity to fill in the blanks, it's quite enjoyable.
I usually go for the "all existing species as anthros" way, and I will also put some not-anthro species that will serve as an ally for the enemy, as different as the Aparoids were to the anthropomorphic animals living in the Lylat system, living on their own planet outside the Lylat system.
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Yeah, I too like lots of different anthropomorphic species to exist in the Lylat-System.
In my version of the Lylat-System those species also exist as non anthropomorphic animals, however (which of course makes the anthropomorphic version and the non anthropomorphic one different species, just with similar looking heads). I got the impression by reading stuff other StarFox-fans write that a lot of people think having an anthropomorphic and an animal version of the same real-life animal in the same fictional world doesn't make sense, however as anthropomorphs themselves don't make sense I don't really care. Well, since in my version of the Lylat-System those anthropomorphs are not really a result of evolution only but of genetic engineering it's neither more nor less plausible if normal animals exist too. (they weren't created by humans themselves though but by the original inhabitants of Lylat)
Either way, usually it doesn't matter why anthropomorphs exist in the Lylat-System. It just would have mattered in a fancic I once considered writing that also included time-travel but I am too lazy. Um, I guess I'm getting a bit off topic here.
Anyways, have you started writing your story yet or are there still too many things you need to plan first?
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It's a bit off-subject, but interesting nontheless x)
I don't include animals, but that's because they wouldn't be much useful in my story ^^
I somewhat started. In fact, I had begun it about 3 years ago, I spent all my free time on it. I had written about 10 chapters. But I didn't like the style of it and decided to redo it all again. Then I watched One Piece during a whole year with a friend, and we decided to write fanfictions on it. And now it's been nearly a year without writing anything. So in fact I have started writing it, but at the very very beginning. (7 fanfictions to write + my own stories I plan to write, kill me... 
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Yeah, in most StarFox-fancis non-anthropomorphic animals wouldn't really fit in as an important part of the story. In the fanfics I planned and most of the time was too lazy to write they'd not have been important either, though Lucy would have had a little pet-dog in one. Idk, I think if any of the StarFox characters would have pets it'd be her.
But apart from that, normal animals wouldn't really have shown up or mattered in my fanfics.
Well, in my version of the Lylat-System antropomorphs don't even need them as food because I think their technology should be advanced enough to grow meat in cell-cultures.
That sounds like a lot of planned work. So are you writing more than one story at the same time or are you going to finish one and then start with the next?
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I used to thought I wold be doing one after the another. But now I have 7 begun, without considering my own stories that I wish to publish one day...
In fact, 6 are One Piece fics that I write with a friend (all on hiatus), and my Star Fox beloved fic 
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Well, then good luck with your many stories.
When you say you wish to publish your own story one day, do you mean finding an actual publisher have them print and sell it and earn money as a writer or just publish it yourself somewhere on the internet for people to read it or sell it yourself on the internet (as an e-book)?
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Thanks, I will need that luck xD
As a writer. I have that dream of writing and publishing books, real books in paper and all. I'd love to have my own books ! A friend of mine succeeded in publishing her books, so why not me too ? But a couple years will probably be necessary for me to complete at least one of those said stories, because I am so slow.
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Well, I guess having a friend who already managed to publish a book is a good thing. It's always good to know someone who knows how to successfully do something.
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Yes indeed. It's a proof that one may succeed.
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Well drawn and colored!
Β I always found Slippy a bit trickier because he's shaped much more differently than the other characters.
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Me too ! I had quite some trouble drawing him well, making him appear anthro like Amanda without loosing his weird-shaped-Slippy-style xD But I think I did okay, at least I dare to thing so
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