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PhoenixRoy In reply to SpectorKnight [2014-01-05 07:19:45 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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PhoenixRoy In reply to KissSh0t [2014-01-05 07:19:34 +0000 UTC]

Ah, thanks. I've attempted to fix the eye, and change the mouth a little bit.

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KissSh0t In reply to PhoenixRoy [2014-01-05 07:39:27 +0000 UTC]

That is much better.. it doesn't look like her eye is sliding off her face now..

I'm sorry.. that was a mean thing to say xD

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PhoenixRoy In reply to KissSh0t [2014-01-05 07:43:41 +0000 UTC]

Haha, it's all good. Eyes are one of my weak spots that I want to work on. I'll probably try and stay away from focusing too much on the eye lashes and remind myself to keep eye palcement in mind. Thanks.

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KissSh0t In reply to PhoenixRoy [2014-01-05 08:09:46 +0000 UTC]

When you are working digitally.. Try drawing the lines for eyes on their own separate layer. this way you can move them around without affecting the area around them during the sketch period. This way you can measure and tweak before coloring.

Here is how I work. The background is where I put color, the layer above is the line layer, and layers above that are special affects like color bounce and glowing affects.

Because all the color is on one layer I make selections using the Magic Wand Tool with "Sample All Layers" selected, with a tolerance of 50-70% and I make the selection with the line at about 40% opacity.. what this does is make selections that bleed under the line, making it look clean. and thus allowing me to have all the color on the same layer because every part is separated via selections.

But for you, you do not make Pen Tool Lines, so they are not pixel perfect and have breaks in the line which means this method will not work for you.

Having each part of color on separate layers under the line layer is an alternative to this, is this what you are doing already?

That is a good method and enables you to edit the image later on much easier if need be.

When you finish an image, do not flatten it then save it as final.. Keep the original file with all it's separate layers, also if you aren't already, please work in .TIFF format, it is the best file format for digital artwork when you are saving multiple times as it has absolute 0% image quality loss over multiple multiple saves of the file. Flatten the image only to save a web version.

Ughh.. I ended up writing a lot.

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PhoenixRoy In reply to KissSh0t [2014-01-05 10:32:42 +0000 UTC]

Recently I have been doing all my lines traditionally with a 6B or 10B pencil to speed of the process a bit. Once I scan the piece, I darken the lines by adjusting the levels in Photoshop. Then I'd flip the image and fix the mistakes at the beginning, but I skipped that process for no reason at all... 

For the background, line layer, and special effects I work the same way.

For the actual coloring I usually paint bucket each color in or I Pen Tool it in if the shape is too complicated for the paint bucket tool to completely fill or if I want to be certain everything is filled in. Each color, shade of that color, and gradient being on its own separate layer. Even though I work in a way that allows for me to easily edit mistakes in a picture, I don't, unless it is pretty minor. I usually try and take note of what I was doing wrong with the image, and try not to make the same mistake in the next image I create. I've come to like having a visual chronicle of my inexperience as an artist.

I've always worked in the PSD file format and always keep the original file for every piece I do. I've never tried the .TIFF, but I think I'll begin using it! I'm always eager to try new things for art. 

I wrote quite a bit myself, its fun to talk about techniques. 

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KissSh0t In reply to PhoenixRoy [2014-01-05 11:07:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. while .psd is a good format.. .tiff is the best choice of digital artwork, the files are a bit larger, but they have absolutely 0% image quality loss over multiple saves.

Perhaps instead of filling in areas with the paint bucket tool.. Try painting color for certain parts on separate layers, this way you can go outside the lines, paint what you need too, then erase what you dont want outside of the line and without affecting the line.

Another thing I've started to do is put color in the line itself, if yo uhave a good look at my new Shinobu and look at the hair, there is a slight yellow in there, the hoodie, and the rest is a dark grey, not black.

Something that might be useful.. or maybe not.. it really depends on the situation.. new scanned image with white background and lines, top bar of photoshop, select, color range, take a sample color of the image "White", Fizziness slider affects how much of the color you selected is actually selected, click ok when you have decided on the amount "100% should be ok", now top bar of photoshop, select, inverse, top bar of photoshop, layer, new layer via copy. now what this does is duplicate the selected area onto a new layer, once you have done this you can delete the original layer and it will be just the lines you selected.

Another thing you could try once duplicating the lines and deleting the original is... top bar of photoshop, select, load selection, for channel it should say "Layer 1 Transparency", this will select the lines on the duplicate line layer you made earlier, click ok, now go top bar of photoshop again, select, deselect, now use the erase brush to erase all the lines so there is no lines at all, now go top bar of photoshop, select , reselect... now you have selected your lines, you can now color them with any color, use a gradient on it even.

There are lots of things you can do in photoshop with the selection tools... even the layer style tools "top bar of photoshop, layer style, blending options".. I use these a lot... primarily drop shadow and bevel and emboss. bevel and emboss for edge highlights and drop shadow for some types of shadows.

I also use custom brushes~ I will upload them tomorrow for you to try out yourself if you would like too.

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PhoenixRoy In reply to KissSh0t [2014-01-04 20:35:17 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. What's wrong with the eye? Is it too far right? I'll try to edit it sometime to see if I can get it looking less off.

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KissSh0t In reply to PhoenixRoy [2014-01-04 21:51:13 +0000 UTC]

Damn.. I replied in the wrong box, feel free to hid it after reading it.

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