Description
If you would like to see more training titles added to this please feel free to create your own in the same format I've created here. I'll add it when I have time.
Rules: Your horse does NOT need to be registered with this club or exist in the club's gallery to use this system.
All breeds are welcome, real and dA breeds.
Horse must be at least 3 years old to begin training.
Drawings may be done in any medium. Sketches are allowed. Tracing is allowed (just be sure to credit the stock artist). Premade linearts are not allowed.
All drawings must be new.
A horse may be trained in as many disciplines as you are able to draw.
If a horse has already competed in a number of events in it's chosen discipline you may skip the amount of drawings required for training. For example, if your horse has competed in 2 dressage events you may skip the first 2 training images and start on the Intermediate images.
You may draw all required images for one discipline in one big picture.
You must complete titles in sequence.
FOR BASIC TRAINING GO HERE~
FOR THE HORSE STAT SYSTEM GO HERE~
Disciplines:
Trick:
MUST COMPLETE BOMBPROOF TRAINING FIRST
TTN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse being taught to bow on command.
Example:
TTI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse being taught to lay down on command.
Example:
TTE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse rearing on command
Example:
Showmanship:
MUST COMPLETE BOMBPROOF TRAINING FIRST
SMN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse being groomed
Example:
SMI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse being lead by halter through some cones
Example:
SME - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse standing square with it's handler
Example:
Hunter Hack/Western Pleasure/Saddleseat:
MUST COMPLETE HALTER TRAINING FIRST
HHN/WPN/SSN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse completely tacked up and standing patiently.
Example:
HHI/WPI/SSI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse being ridden at a collected canter.
Example:
HHE/WPE/SSE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse being ridden over a small jump/Draw a closeup of your horse with it's head
hanging low/Draw your horse showing off it's specialised gait.
Example:
Liberty:
MUST COMPLETE HALTER TRAINING FIRST
LIN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse entering an indoor arena with it's handler.
Example:
LII - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse prancing around the arena to a piece of music (link the song in the description)
Example:
LIE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse waiting patiently for it's handler to collect it.
Example:
Haute Ecole:
MUST COMPLETE DRESSAGE TRAINING FIRST
HEN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse being ridden with a double bridle.
Example:
HEI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse learning the Piaffe.
Example:
HEE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse performing a Courbette or a Capriole.
Example:
Cross Country:
MUST COMPLETE JUMPING TRAINING FIRST
CCN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse being ridden at a gallop through a small pond.
Example:
CCI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your being ridden over a Brush Fence.
Example:
CCE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse being ridden over a large fence and into a pool.
Example:
Multi-Hitch Driving:
MUST COMPLETE HARNESS TRAINING FIRST
MHN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse/horses hitched up in a Unicorn formation.
EXAMPLE 1 EXAMPLE 2
MHI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse/horses hitched up and turning in a tight circle.
VIDEO EXAMPLE
MHE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse/horses hitched up and moving to the side of it's/their carriage.
VIDEO EXAMPLE
Cow Work -
MUST COMPLETE REINING TRAINING FIRST
CWN - Novice (1 image required) - Draw your horse being introduced to a cow.
Example:
CWI - Intermediate (1 image required) - Draw your horse using a fake cow to practice sudden stops or spins.
Example:
CWE - Expert (1 image required) - Draw your horse cutting a cow out of the herd.
Example:
Working Equitation:
MUST COMPLETE BOOMPROOF TRAINING FIRST
WEN - Novice (requires 1 image) - Draw your horse and rider jumping over a small jump.
Example:
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WEI - Intermediate (requires 1 image) - Draw your horse and rider riding over a wooden bridge.
Example:
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WEE - Expert (requires 1 image) - Draw your horse and rider walking sideways over some rails.
Example:
Example Alternative: Watch this video - youtu.be/XZ8d9ByD5L4
(A note to the artists whose drawn work I used as an example: If you'd like me to remove your images please let me know~ )
Comments: 57
MooreArtByLucy [2014-11-26 13:06:04 +0000 UTC]
I would like to see the opportunity for things like:
Endurance (perhaps training for opening/closing gates on horseback, carrying/packing gear, and natural obstacles instead of show jumping fences)
Pleasure riding (perhaps handling traffic, different road surfaces, riding with groups)
Ride and Tie (perhaps changing riders, standing while tied for "periods of time", movement around/other horses/etc.)
Even would be fun for future events maybe (if not possible for training):
Costume shows
Jousting
Military/Police/Medieval (strange combination I know but basically same basis) mounted "fighting"
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Chunga-Stock [2014-02-20 02:36:01 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the feature!
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painted-cowgirl [2014-02-18 04:31:23 +0000 UTC]
Not sudden stops nor spins, but still an example. For Intermediate Cow Work section requiring a fake cow... fav.me/d76y0vs fav.me/d76y2ls
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painted-cowgirl In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2014-02-20 18:08:30 +0000 UTC]
Those will work for ya right? I'll also try to look for some "introduction" pictures, but I'll link you with 2 I've actually drawn.
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painted-cowgirl [2014-02-10 20:36:22 +0000 UTC]
You could do Western Gaming/Gymkhana (which could include pole bending and barrel racing), or Roping (which could include Breakaway, Tie-Down and Team Roping), as well as perhaps Mounted Shooting. Having knowledge in most of those areas (I've trained multiple champion gymkhana horses and have grown up in a family of ropers with a lot of friends who rope, and am hoping to one day do Mounted Shooting with my mare so have been looking up training methods), I could probably help you get a guideline down for the steps. Most western disciplines I have a eye into so if you need help in any of them, let me know
Just a quick thing on disciplines I've done: cutting, ranch sorting, team penning, reining, reined cowhorse, competitive trail, barrel racing in rodeos and in gymkhana, gymkhana, and have even recently taken up hunter under saddle and trick training (with plans of colt starting and teaching my own horse to drive this summer so I don't have to borrow driving horses), and have done a little roping and goat tying just for fun. I've also held a Royalty position (think rodeo queens), so I've had to also compete in horsemanship.
I've done a little bit of everything or have at least tried to research a little into it if I haven't. I'm actually planning to try to get my AQHA Judge card in case being a vet doesn't work out
I actually really like these training titles, it's a good way to improve our horses So like I said, if you need any help, then I'd love to help
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painted-cowgirl In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2014-02-12 23:27:06 +0000 UTC]
Excuse my multiple responses, I'm not exactly in a thinking and remembering mindset, but I have good pictures for the first two levels of cowwork (intro to herd and a mechanical cow/flag work) so I can try to find those so you can have examples that are accurate to what is wanted instead of the reining pictures you have for the intermediate section.
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painted-cowgirl In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2014-02-12 23:23:53 +0000 UTC]
Also, you don't really have a competitive trail (ranch trail)/extreme cowboy race type thing. Having competed in both, they are very different from the majority of your trail classes that want more pleasure horse look. Would you mind me making an ECR or "advanced trail" type thing? It will require prior training, likely the bombproofing.
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to CSStables [2014-02-07 12:27:41 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for drawing them! There's bugger all working equitation pics here D:
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TheOneForgotten [2013-11-22 00:15:19 +0000 UTC]
Another thing you may want to think about addin is English Pleasure/Hunter Under Saddle, which in stock horses is basically western pleasure with English tack. Stock horse shows (at least AQHA and PtHA) don't have contestants jump in Hunter Under Saddle classes.
You could also add Showmanship to this level, which is based on halter but you aren't allowed to ever touch the horse or the horse's chain, and must complete a pattern on the ground in addition to being good in conformation and standing square in the lineup. Some moves include the standing square, walking with the horse's chin in line with the handler's hip (forward or behind is bad), backing up without movement on the lead, trotting in hand with the horse's head in line with the handler's hip, and turning away from the handler in a circle or whatever is dictated for the pattern (handler walks towards the horse and it must move away without being touched). It's a test of how well the handler controls the horse.
Another thing would be Equitation/Horsemanship, which is basically showmanship but on horseback. So you would ride a pattern on the flat and be judged on how well you as a rider executed the pattern, with the other contestants standing in a line waiting for their turn. I'm not sure if this is seen much beyond AQHA shows, but I've always thought they were a staple. Some stages could be halting with the horse's shoulder in line with an orange cone, circling around orange cones, standing patiently in line waiting for their turn, and backing up on a line. Equitation is the Hunt Seat variety, and Horsemanship is the western variety.
Not sure if you'll want to add them or not, but figured I would throw them out there.
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to TheOneForgotten [2013-11-22 00:43:58 +0000 UTC]
There is no breed limitations to this so a stock horse can be trained in Hunter Hack if the artist wants it to be. A horse competent in Hunter Hack would be able to compete in English Pleasure without any issues
And I've seen a lot of different types of competitions being called Equitation so I'm not entirely sure which one would best fit the titles Goddamn horse world can't make up it's mine 8C
I want to include the equitation that involves western horses being ridden around an area with a bunch of obstacles like gates and bridges too but ugh namessssss.
But I will look into showmanship! Thanks for that~
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TheOneForgotten In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2013-11-22 01:12:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I hear you, I try to tell hunter/jumpers about my equitation classes and they look at me like I'm crazy because they do Equitation Over Fences.
I've always known the equitation you speak of to be trail class, and that's how I've seen it commonly referred to across breeds and disciplines at shows. It can be done in either English or Western at some shows too. You could probably toss it on top of the bomb-proofing training too, since it can involve going over tarps and such as well.
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to TheOneForgotten [2013-11-22 01:41:10 +0000 UTC]
Then that's another name it can go under! *flips table*
Equitation, Extreme Cowboy Race, Trail Class, and there's another that applies mostly to Spanish ranch horses but it escapes me right now.
Fuck it. I'm making a new name for it 8C
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painted-cowgirl In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2014-02-14 19:26:08 +0000 UTC]
Equitation is not the same as trail by any means. The way I know equitation is usually specifically an English discipline, and can be on flat where you just do a flat work pattern either with or without cones. Horsemanship is a western flat work pattern which is usually done without cones but can be done with. Cones are only used for stop/start/transition points. Regular "show" trail, is what is typically done in shows, and requires a fine finesse. Usually a lot of bling on the saddle and show clothes. Typically goes very slowly because time isn't important, it's how you go about a
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painted-cowgirl In reply to painted-cowgirl [2014-02-14 19:34:15 +0000 UTC]
*continued* approaching and completing the obstacle. In your ranch type trail, time is usually factored in, and usually the horses carriage is less cared upon rather than the show type trail. Obstacle also have a bigger "wow" factor. Much more brighter, shiner and noiser obstacles. In extreme cowboy racing, speed is an even bigger factor and this can be crossing a 4 foot deep river compared to the small few inch deep box of water you'll get in show trail. This type as well as ranch type can require you to shoot guns, pony another horse, herd cattle, and even carry flags and tarps. It can get pretty extreme. So very different events.
As for the equation with obstacles, again, English, and usually is a jump course. This is also "hunt seat equitation" and such.
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TheOneForgotten In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2013-11-22 02:12:54 +0000 UTC]
Haha, yeah you could make a different name for it and do a more "basic" idea of the obstacle training. Like bombproofing upgraded but specific to Trail/Equitation/Extreme Cowboy Race events.
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painted-cowgirl In reply to Whisperah [2014-02-10 20:49:18 +0000 UTC]
Having ridden cutters and reiners, I actually find a lot of the training should transfer over. I like to have a horse that is soft and responsive, which reiners do a LOT of. I think every horse should be soft and responsive, and that includes cutters. Both require a quick and responsive turn (whether responding more to the rider or the cow in front of them), and the ability to have a good hard stop and carry themselves on the hind end. Yes, very few can competitively do both, that I agree with, but training in both can only allow the horse to better themselves and be more responsive.
I actually had a reining horse who loved cows, but was too pushy for cutting (liked to get really in their space), so I used him for Ranch Sorting and he won a lot of money in reining and sorting. I just sold a mare this summer who did cutting for 8 years and I put a little bend in her ribcage and with her stop and catty turns, she made an excellent barrel horse. Doing something different keeps a horse interested
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War-Chant In reply to Whisperah [2013-11-14 16:51:01 +0000 UTC]
You can't look at it as "reining" and "cutting" when you're looking at a working cow horse (or reined cow horse, as they're often called). Both disciplines came from the all around ranch horse that could do all of these moves (with the exception of some because those were exaggerated for the wow-factor) because that's what was needed to work cattle. Like most of the Western disciplines, people began to specialize and the all around horse became a reining horse or a cutting horse or a barrel horse and so on and so forth.
I've been riding Western for 25 years and I've ridden, trained, and competed on all kinds of horses, and a reined cow horse is the grand daddy of all horses in the Western world because they are so versatile because of the amount of work that goes into their training. I've ridden WCH that did well in both the reining and cutting rings, and it didn't "ruin" the horse by any means.
The other thing that you need to consider is that we're not working with real horses here. She created a simple, easy to understand system that would help inspire people, and there's really no reason to get super-specific as we do when working with live horses.
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to Whisperah [2013-11-14 10:19:53 +0000 UTC]
*reiner go into cutting rather >.>
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to Whisperah [2013-11-14 10:14:00 +0000 UTC]
I put in both simply because having an all round western horse is hugely valuable, in the HARPG and in real life. Most western horses in the HARPG especially are all rounders by default and compete in any event they can get their hands on because specialised events are few and far between.
I consulted with a few people who are much more educated in western events than I am whilst I was making this and we agreed having a cutter go into reining would work for the HARPG.
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to Whisperah [2013-11-14 11:33:11 +0000 UTC]
Because Western Pleasure is essentially halter class with riding. Reining goes into cutting because the movements performed in reining are similar, if not inspired by the twists and turns a horse performs when trying to keep a cow from going back to it's herd. If the horse doesn't posses a natural cow sense (which, given the unusual nature of the HARPG, is a strong possibility) the additional training via reining would be very beneficial. It's not as simple as just "it looks the same", a lot of time and thought went into this.
The artist also has to learn these movements in order to draw them and easing into it is less overwhelming than just throwing them into the deep end and expecting them to know every little thing about the discipline. You have to remember that a lot of people in the HARPG don't have much real life experiences with horses. Expecting them to just get it straight away is gonna make people not want to participate in the HARPG at all, and that's the opposite of what the HARPG is about.
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MooreArtByLucy In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2014-11-26 12:54:36 +0000 UTC]
I know this is really dredging up an old issue and all, but I just want to let you know that you are in fact 100% correct.
In training horses there is a lot of crossover, and even many horses are trained with dressage for flexibility and stride etc regardless of ultimate discipline. Trail/cross country horses are trained with jumping for balance, endurance, and muscle development. Endurance horses are trained with dressage, speed, and jumping for mental collection to handle whatever they might come across. Barrel horses are trained in speed for obvious reasons, but also in dressage for balance, collection, movement, and (for lack of a better way to put it) self awareness to not hit the barrels and get as close as possible, as well as reigning for control etc.
www.dennisauslam.com/2006/09/b…
www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racin…
Honestly, the idea that a horse can only learn in one discipline is antiquated and even dangerous.
In this website it is stated what is needed to do a cross over between the two as well - which is possible if the horse is suited:
www.horsetrainingvideos.com/cu…
Ironically it needs to be a horse:
The reining horse needs to have the ability to stop strong and often and have a wonderful/beautiful way of cantering and galloping while giving an impression of confidence and a love of its job. This requires a strong sense of confidence in itself and its rider. It needs to be at least comfortable being handled by the rider and to be able to handle pressure from the rider and keep its cool with only the rider to focus on. The reining horse reads its rider not a cow so it must be comfortable knowing what it is going to do and still wait on the rider to tell it when, where and how hard or fast to do the maneuvers.
Both need to listen to the rider.
An example on that site why it is good to include crossover specifically between reigning and cutting training:
Autumn Wyammy is a young mare who is too quick and energetic to be a good reining horse. However she can steal more points from the judges in a cutting than any horse I have ever shown. She can also do all the reining maneuvers but she is so sensitive and so quick that she looks tight and quick even when she is relaxed. I still work on reining at a low key level with her because it helps her have more confidence and comfort with me when I work her on a cow, but I have no intention of taking reining seriously with her.
And another:
EAT MY DUST CODY is a horse that is a good reining horse but is not good as a cutting horse. He is suited to reining in all ways. He has won Western Cow Horse Association Open year end Championship two times. He loves working cows but has a natural tendency to want to get taller in front when a cow faces off with him. This getting tall in his shoulders is good for the stops in reining, but it limits his lateral movement giving the cow an athletic advantage. Over a period of two or three days I can train him to get lower in front on a cow and when he does he then gets the advantage on the cow and it works well, for a while. If I give him a day or two off the subject he wants to get tall in front again. It is his natural response. Rather than keep putting pressure on him over and over I do not take arena cow work seriously with him. He is very good at gathering cattle and is really good as a help horse with the cutting. Because he enjoys cattle I make a point to have him do things with cattle but I stay within his talent and abilities.
And this statement says it all why it is good to give crossover training regardless of discipline (but the site is focused on reigning and cutting):
Most horses enjoy variety in their lives. Doing another event can break up the pressure and monotony and give a horse a broader base of experience to rely on for a better performance in one or both events. The other thing is that both cutters and reiners need to have good form, balance and footwork to do well. Teaching this sets a reinier up for the stops, spins, and lead changes and keeps the circles nice and pretty and flowing. Teaching the same things to a cutter gives the trainer the ability to shape and position the horse on the cow in the right place and with the right balance and form to move correctly. Teaching form during the reining training takes the pressure off the timing. Teaching form and position on a cow takes the pressure off the emotions because the horse can see reasons for the things you are asking for other than just the riders whims.
Not cross training a horse can cause them to over develop muscles, overuse joints, and become bored and temperamental thus possibly causing harm, injury, lameness, or attitude problems. Sure you should focus on the ultimate goal, but it's good to mix things up to teach them (if nothing else) to continue to listen to the rider, and to keep sides balanced, etc.
Just like football players can use ballet as a method of building flexibility and endurance.
Artists can journal to collect ideas and inspiration.
Writers can draw/paint characters for visual inspiration and focus.
Animators can create clay models of characters to reference and inspire.
Just because it is not what they permanently stay with, every discipline has benefits for the horse's training, otherwise they wouldn't be disciplines in the ultimate sense because they would not have a goal and a pinnacle to be reached. I have trained horses both for competition as well as pleasure riding and have made many crossovers into other training for change of pace if the horse gets bored easily, if they need to build strength, flexibility, balance, collection, extension, speed, etc. The concept that every single horse fits into one little box is truly absurd.
In human terms that would be like saying because you write stories you can't do artwork, can't balance a checkbook, can't cook, or can't read because those things are not directly linked to the act of writing stories - however in reality they help you write those stories by paying your bills, feeding you and your family, and giving you a different creative outlet so that you can think about the stories you are writing.
I think that these plans are excellent and have actually been looking for a group that has a set up like this (or faintly considering making a group of my own like this) and the way you have broken it down is very understandable and simple enough that even people who don't have a background with horses (just a passion for horses and/or art) can step into a group and follow through a system and participate.
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Whisperah In reply to PinkPonyFarts [2013-11-14 12:19:53 +0000 UTC]
Wow, you obviously have a set opinion and aren't someone that will accept critique from someone who has experience in a field you're addressing. Instead of simply saying something like 'Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think i'll use it' you come back with a completely unnecessary shoot down. Shows the person I never thought you were, what a shame.
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kakirose In reply to Whisperah [2013-11-15 18:18:48 +0000 UTC]
Lisa actually accepts critique really well. How do you think she has improved in art? She work with people who know a lot about horse competitions and horses to create this. So yes, she will side with them instead of taking and using your suggestion. What IS a shame is that you base you character evaluation of Lisa off the first conversation you had with her. It took me multiple conversations with her to find out who she truly is, and I am proud to say I gained her friendship. She defended her position like you did yours, and she had all rights to.
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PinkPonyFarts In reply to Whisperah [2013-11-14 23:26:19 +0000 UTC]
Why is it okay for you to argue your point but not okay for me? And I did accept critique from *people* in this field before posting this, as I've already said. They disagreed with your opinion. I don't see how siding with the *people* who helped me make this as opposed to the one person I've just met is any indication of how well I accept critique.
And on that topic, I just have to say, this is the first time I've interacted with you. Anything you think you know about me is based on a couple second look at my profile. No where on my profile does it say anything about critique so this is a fact you've just assumed about me. It's a disservice to the people you meet to base their entire personality and attitude on a first impression that person had little to do with.
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