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And I think I was categorized as created in day 3 ---> [link]
Genesis 1 ---->[link]
---This and That comic strip---
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[link] page 1 Introduction
[link] page 2 Always Better
[link] page 3 Suspicion
[link] page 4 Not That Strange
[link] page 5 How to Make Sense
[link] page 6 A friend's concern
[link] page 7 Meeting your love
[link] page 8 Kris Kringle
[link] page 9 A New Job
[link] page 10 Ponyo and Sousuke
[link] page 11 My Valentine
[link] page 12 Request
[link] page 13 Answer
[link] page 14 Little Sister
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[link] page 1 Animal Lover
[link] page 2 Man is Back
[link] page 3 Reminescence
[link] page 4 Rainbow
[link] page 5 Descendant
[link] page 6 Language
[link] page 7 Unity
[link] page 8 Ambition
[link] page 9 Tall Tower
[link] page10 Good Job
[link] page 11 COnfusion
[link] page 12 Age Gap
[link] page 13 The Call of Abram
[link] page 14 Abram in Egypt
[link] page 15 Pharaoh in Law
[link] page 16 The Creator
[link] page 17 Creation
[link] page 18 Which Day
[link] page 19 The 6th Day
[link] page 20 Tree of Knowledge
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Ever noticed how there's a day/night cycle for several days before God even makes the sun?
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They should remake the Bible and turn it into series of cartoons.
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Actually science and religion go hand in hand. Science is the blueprint of God's design. For instance...science has proven there was plants, then aquatic life, then land. This goes hand in hand with the bible. Some christians don't think evolution is possible, but anything is possible with God. There are two main reasons how it can either look that way, or IS that way.. It could "look" that way for the same instance when an artist creates, you can tell even in his new work that he/she is the artist, I think even in God's designs there are also signs like this (thus explaining why animals are similar). or it IS that way. For instance, when God said "let there be tame animals on the earth" He could've let some of the animals of the sea, walk up and onto the land. with the way Eve was made as an example, we know that God likes to take from the old to put into the new, and why wouldn't he give animals/plants the ability to adapt? God's creation is very complex....so I think when some christians see the evidence of his work in science, of course it is a scary thing. Of course it is hard to understand. But when science and religion work together, better things are possible. :>
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Scientists of old did say that faith and sciences were sisters.
I agree with them, they testify to and balance each other like the heart and mind balance each other.
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Also, isn't it strange how the Bible doesn't have -mankind- as being created first? All throughout history, humans are self-centered. we thought the earth was the center of the universe! but mankind isn't created first according to the bible, OR to science! If the Bible were just created by normal men in the past, it would make a lot more sense for them to say humans -the important ones- were created first. How would the men of the past know about science? They didn't know. And, mankind originated from one area, and dispersed throughout the world as according to the bible....and science! Scientists generally agree now that we all originated from Africa....something the people that wrote the Bible also couldn't have known (we didn't have DNA evidence back then)
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well...let's not debate but try to see each one's understanding, it's hard to change one's belief let alone convince someone, but listening other's point of view is never wrong
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The problem is that a religious explanation requires no proof because it's the "absolute truth". How can one argue with that?
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the other problem is that science still can't proof that there's no God, yes we can't see Him, but they can't claim 100% that God doesn't exist....so yeah...both sides will keep saying the other is wrong.
And the argument will keep going.
Making both claim valid. So what's left is, do you believe it or not.
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I think science has no responsibility of proving or disproving God's existence, since that's an abstract concept. Like you said, that's something one chooses to believe or not. It requires only "faith", which means one can strongly believe whatever they want to. This explains why every different culture have their own interpretation of what "God" is all about, so we don't have a global or unified idea of what God actually is. On the contrary - human history has proven that those differences only led to war, death, and misery. It is a known fact that religion differences alone have killed more people than all wars combined since prehistory. We are now in the 21st century, and Ireland and Serbia are still running their own religious wars...
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umm...about the religion and war...isn't it because of us human that misused the name of religion and God to justify our action to kill each other, and take over people's land?
hm2,
do you think it's going to be better if there's no concept of God?
what do you think Ken?
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I think the subject is very simple, and it all comes down to the fundamental question: what's the meaning of life? Why are we here? Humanity cannot live without some kind of explanation for that, and this is where "God" comes in, and that's also the reason why religions were created. Humanity has invented "God" for the sole purpose of having an explanation for the fundamental question, in a way that doesn't need to be proven. Actually, those who question it are labeled "heretics" and so on, as means to keep people from asking. Heaven and Hell were also created as means to reward those who believe, or afflict fear over the ones who don't.
This has worked out so well that those who believe have developed a need to "convert" others as means to "save" them from the punishments invented by their own religion. They believe they are doing "good" because they believe they are actually "saving" somebody from suffering, even if they have to torture, terrorize or even kill as means to achieve it.
With the fall of the Roman empire, the Catholic Church was promoted from cleric to ruler overnight, and to some extend their dogmas have become law, and that's when things started to go very wrong. Jesus said "those who want to follow me should have nothing more than the clothes they are wearing". Instead, the Christian church has built monumental cathedrals, adorned with expensive statues and rich decorations that Jesus condemned as materialism. Ironically, nowadays we can see miserable beggars sleeping in front of those cathedrals because they are not allowed to come in - exactly because they have nothing more than the clothes in their bodies. In addition, we all know that the Vatican has become the richest institution in the whole planet, which further proves that they don't believe in Jesus.
Therefore, humankind needs "God" to give their lives a meaning, but conversely, human nature will not allow them to actually live as proposed by Jesus. In the same way, the Koran forbids Muslims from taking the lives of another person, but that has not been obeyed as we well know nowadays. Entire countries in Asia are being taken by Muslims by force and terror right now, where perhaps the biggest example is Malaysia, where the president is now Muslim and he has allowed those who are not to be terrorized if they refuse to be converted.
Hence people need "God" but cannot live by the rules because that would go against human nature. This is pretty much what you asked about in a nutshell.
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Actually, I keep having faith because answers always come in tangible ways. Therefore the answers are the evidence. And God isn't "abstract" he is a distinct person with distinct characteristic and boundaries.
You can't see wind but you can sure feel it
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I by no means condemn religion - it must exist for the sake of the ones who otherwise could not live without it. I am just not so concerned about the fundamental questions because, well, dying is not optional - we *will* all know what life is about one day, with no exceptions. It doesn't matter what we believe now, since we will all eventually have the same end: death.
Some believe death is the end, some believe it's not, but why worry? We will ALL get there one day - that's the only sure thing in live.
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Hi Ken,
"It doesn't matter what we believe now"
You have to understand what a statement like that sounds like to us. It's telling us that the things we are willing to die for don't matter. People all over the world give their lives to live for Jesus and spread his message.
It matters very much to me and millions of others globally. Jesus Christ seemed to care very much too. It just depends on if you think he's right/wrong about our evil ways and our need for a savior. I can't make that decision for anyone
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I understand your point, but there are more than 20 major religions in the world, where each believes their truth is "the only one", and therefore everybody else is wrong. It is nearly impossible that they are all correct at the same time, noticing that in the great majority, one excludes all the others from being true. It is, therefore, also probable that none are actually correct.
But in the end, what worries me is what each will do to prove their point. History has plenty of it, and it is not pretty. It's happening right now all over the world right now (Serbia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Ireland, Israel, Sri Lanka, etc), and the news won't even bother covering it. People are taking the "die for it" to the last consequences, and if there is a God, I don't think that's what he/she wants.
So I do believe you when you say there are things you would die for, but I just don't believe that's what it was meant for - no matter who's right or wrong.
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woaww, thanks for replying with this much of information Ken!
what a concise and vast explanation you've come with
me myself is a christian, not the roman catholic one, protestant I guess? My feeling is I would need God in this life, if not then I don't know what's the meaning of life, I guess it comes from a point where I don't want to accept a life that's just filling up routine, you work, you eat, you sleep, repeat that all day till the day you die.
Yes Roman catholic labels heretics to those who asked "where is God?"
But I don't know, as far as I know, the church, and the bible that I read doesn't condemn me, because I asked a lot of question like that. I wonder whether God is there or not. I question this injustice of the world, and I question whether He's really up there to justify everything in this world...
I...don't know, I'm still investigating for answers myself I guess
but yea there a lot of extremist people who would claim using the name of religion to torture and kill people, do you think they are doing what the original teaching asked them to do?
that way, I guess you're right, people won't be able to do whatever the original teaching asked them to do. And often they will misuse and abuse the idea of the teaching for their own benefit...and in the end, the God of the religion will be blamed.
And I guess that way people will think that Atheist or not choosing anything will be the better way.
umm...I don't think that it will solve the way,
even with the all the goodness of religion's teaching and the moral inside, we fail at doing it. what will happen without those guidelines?
...ah...really Ken, I regret I won't be able to tell things as good as you, I don't know how to elaborate my sentence and my reasoning... I guess I only hold to my experience as a christian, and well...having church, and family in christ which serves each other is not a bad thing
I hope you won't get offended or anything with my thinking.
I'm sorry I can't reply well..
Therefore, humankind needs "God" to give their lives a meaning, but conversely, human nature will not allow them to actually live as proposed by Jesus. In the same way, the Koran forbids Muslims from taking the lives of another person, but that has not been obeyed as we well know nowadays. Entire countries in Asia are being taken by Muslims by force and terror right now, where perhaps the biggest example is Malaysia, where the president is now Muslim and he has allowed those who are not to be terrorized if they refuse to be converted.
Hence people need "God" but cannot live by the rules because that would go against human nature. This is pretty much what you asked about in a nutshell.
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In my life I have traveled the world, lived in many countries, learned many languages, and their cultures. This one thing I know: people cannot bear living without some kind of reasoning for the fundamental question. Thus religion is a necessary evil, because I know a number of people who decided that "God" is the only reason for them to live for. Those are desperate people I met in different countries, with different religions and different beliefs, but they have this in common - they don't have a purpose for living besides "God", each on their own interpretation of it.
What these people had in common was a traumatic event in their early lives, like domestic violence or even rape. They are desperate people who needed a strong reason to keep living, and that's where religion became a key element in their lives. You can see it in their eyes when they talk about their "God" (Christian or not), because quite so often they have tears in their eyes when they do it. Some people could label them as "fanatics", but I know their pasts and I know that without this, they would be already dead by now. Like I said, it's a necessary evil that in those cases can save lives.
Last one I met was by accident in a public park here in Arizona. She was an attractive young woman, who came to sit close to me and started a conversation about God. The more she spoke, the more she got excited, and at points she had tears in her eyes when she mentioned how Jesus had saved her life. I asked her some strategic questions and she revealed she was a victim of an abusive mother, and she ran away from home when still young, and lived with an older man who also abused her even more. Now she lives in a van and preaches the "love of Jesus" on public places, because not only she believes Jesus has saved her life, but also that God has told her to save other people's lives in the same way she was saved.
She doesn't have a fixed address, a job, or a life one could speak of. She is afraid that if she ever stops in one place, her mother or the man she used to live with will eventually find her - so she has to keep moving. This poor woman is only 22, but in her face I saw an old woman who lived through hell in earth. She looks like a 40 years old by the lines on her face. Here again, without her "God" she would be dead already. I saw people giving up before, and dying for much lesser reasons. Some people could call her a "fanatic", but deep inside I know that's all she can be.
Of course this was an extreme example, and different people may need "God" for different reasons. One of my neighbors brainwashed their children about their religious cult to the point where that was all they could see. Kids will believe whatever their parents tell them is "true", so they never have the choice when it comes to religion. Therefore religion is passed from parents to kids in a mandatory cycle imposed by society over the families. It's not a democratic decision - if you are Christian, it's because your parents are too. This is taken so seriously that you probably could not live in the same house otherwise.
So back to the question: does humankind need God? The answer is obviously YES, despite of the side-effects. It is a scientific fact that only a small fraction of humanity can take their own decisions, while the rest need somebody else to tell them what to do and what to think. In other words, the world is made of only a few natural born leaders - and that is actually a good thing, because if everybody were a leader, humanity would never survive as a species because every single decision would diverge from everybody else's opinion. That means that every single decision would end in war. Conversely, there is no war in human history that was started without a leader to cause it.
So even though religion has killed more people than all wars combined, perhaps even more people would go into desperation and death without it. Religion kills a lot, but it also saves in a much larger scale. It also helps regulating human nature to a more civilized level, creating more peaceful societies. Looking back in history, humanity would not survive without a "God" of some sort. Even if you are thinking about the "God of the Christians", this is the very same "God of the Hebrews". Of all the 12 apostles, 11 of them believed that their God only cared for the "chosen people", which were the Hebrews (the Jewish) according to the Old Testament. Only 1 of the apostles claimed otherwise, and an entire religion was created based on that. Remember that Jesus was a Jewish Rabi, son of a very orthodox Jewish Rabi (Joseph), and they all strongly believed that the "God of the Hebrews" only cared for the Hebrews. Jesus himself was crucified for claiming to be the "king of the Hebrews", in defiance of the Roman-occupied Jerusalem authority. He died for the cause of the Hebrews ("the chosen people" in biblical terms) and nobody else.
Now we have millions of people claiming to follow Jesus without being Jewish, which according to the Bible, this can be a contradiction of biblical proportions. To make things more confusing, the Jewish people themselves don't believe Jesus was the true Messiah, so he is not part of their religion. Even more confusing is the fact that many Christian sects accuse the Jewish of condemning Jesus to crucifixion, while claiming that "He died to redeem us from our sins". Jesus himself said "Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing". Christians accusing the Jewish for Jesus' death indicates that they don't believe in either sentences - either redemption through sin, or forgiveness.
This is all a big mess, where nobody remembers what Jesus said or believed in the first place. And they don't care, because Christianity nowadays does not exist to spread Jesus' gospel, but instead it exists to give people something to believe and live for. If they believed in Jesus' gospel, they would destroy their million-dollar churches and cathedrals and go preach under open sky like Jesus did. People should free themselves of all material belongings like Jesus asked his followers to do. Christians would have no cleric hierarchies like Bishops or the Pope himself, because Jesus said we are all brothers under only one and only Father. Christians would destroy all religious statues and paintings, because Jesus was against the adoration of material things. No Christian president could ever start a war against another nation, because Jesus said that when attacked, we should give the other cheek to our enemies. And for the same reason, no Christian soldier could ever go to war, since Jesus said that killing for any reason is a capital sin. No Christian policeman ever could arrest a prostitute, unless he has never committed a single sin in his whole life.
As you can see, life governed by Jesus' gospel would result into a very different world that would look nothing like ours. Christians claim to believe in Jesus, but not quite. According to the bible, Jesus himself only lived, preached and died for his own people (the Hebrews) and nobody else. Only 1 out of 12 apostles believed otherwise. If Jesus came back tomorrow, would he deny the non-Jewish? Would be he shocked by what people did in his name? Since nobody seems to care about his gospel nowadays, would anybody be saved? Would we all kill him again in the same way and for the same reasons all over again?
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I SEE A PLATYPUS
I love your comics, they're so awesome xD
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of course there has to be platypus!!!
arhh those duck bill!!!
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i feel sad for the panguin....
where's the dinosaur?
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ah, they were too big to draw on the panel, ah...should have draw some lizard! ck you're right, i forgot all the reptiles. hahah.
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Maybe they were just created in-between days.
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mammoths, where are the mammoths?
I had a book about creation as child and on the back was a picture with Adam and Eve on top of a big mammoth. That picture is stuck with me. There can't be a creation of animals without mammoths!
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i'm sorry, the mammoth ran away, and I couldn't find him
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and the dinosaurs are missing, too. god probably already took a giant eraser and erased them from the strips, right?
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yeh, I had no problem with both mammoth and dinosaurs to be honest, i know it's possible to have them, but yea
hahah, I reckon I want to settle it with animals we see today for now, hahah
*pats mammoth*
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not even a little tiny mammoth?
oh and about the birth of the light in another strip. I remembered a saying we said in elementzary school.
"Gott sprach 'es werde Licht', (god said "there will be light")
doch Jesus fand den Schalter nicht" (But Jesus couldn't find the switch)
ah those good memories.
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hahah naahh
whoa, I just realized this, somehow I feel it's cool that I now have a German friend!
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Do you know "The Best Christmas Pageant Ever" [link] It's classic. My sister ha sto giggle in church every Christmas because of it. #
Cool to have an Indonesian friend 
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haha, I feel sorry for the platypus, no one really knows what God categorizes him as... ^^'
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yeah, hmm...bird? no...
mamal..no...hmm.. i really am confused.
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haha, gotta say so am I...
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