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Long time no see guys ♪ !
I hadn’t done anything as a “salty” NaruSaku shipper against the ending yet, so here it is. My way to protest against the ending for my OTP. They deserved better.
And that’s also a way to thank my fellow shippers who helped me go through and accept the shitty ending 
Crappy dimensions and JPEG ate up almost all my colors (;_
But at least, I think I’m improving my n00bish coloring technique, so that’s one good thing.
EDIT : Because of all the NHtards who felt they had the duty to preach in favor of the ending, I'm disabling comments for this deviation. Hope you guys understand ♥ !
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Not really... Kishimoto said he was going to do a NS ending, but then, it would make Sakura a terrible woman for falling in love with another guy ('cause girls can't fall in love twice apparently, otherwise, they're sluts). He only gave Naruto to Hinata out of pity. There's an interview about that, you might want to read it.
In another recent interview, Kishimoto says he never developped Sakura's side of the story because of her impopularity. And he said that the NH movie was entirely the idea of Studio Pierrot. Even Takeuchi Junko (Naruto's seiyuu) completely believed NS would come true and basically called NH an asspull in her interview for THE LAST movie. So yeah, NH was never intended.
Kishimoto's comment about "not being comfortable with romance" is complete BS. He had no problem writing romance for Obito, Tsunade or MinaKushi. That's the crappy excuse he found to justify the lack of NH/SS for 15 years. And people are buying it.
Naruto became Hokage in one chapter, no transition. We didn't get to see how it happened, even though it was his dream and supposed to be a central element of the story.
He married someone he didn't give a romantic f*kc about (he DID care for Hinata, but the same way he cared for Gaara, Shikamaru, etc.).
Sakura got with a man who tried to kill her three times, abused her verbally on several occasions, instead of moving on like a normal woma would do (great lesson you're teaching little girls Kishimoto : "if let a man direspect you for years, he will eventually let you marry him, yay !").
And Sasuke got with a woman he didn't love (even though the concept of love and family is supposed to be sooo important for Uchihas). And he gave so little f*cks about his new family he didn't even raise his daughter (and Kishimoto is going to find ~the perfect reason~ why he couldn't be with his family).
Yay, perfect ending indeed right 
So if you believe this to be a good ending, I'm very happy for you. I honestly am. If you can find an excuse for every messed up thing Kishimoto does, and be satified with it, again, I'm happy for you. But just don't expect the rest of the fandom to share your opinion
But YOU shall see what happens next, if you have the patience for that. For me, NARUTO stopped after chapter 698 and nothing beyond this point exists in my canon. I gave my money to this man for 8 years, so now, I moved on.
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Naruto went from 'if you believe in yourself and never give up no matter what, your dreams will come true regardless of who you are' to 'you need a special set of eyes to ever matter'.
The series after Pein took such a nosedive in quality and writing that I've disregarded the past two hundred or so chapters when it became clear that The Uchiha were all that mattered and they got off scot free for everything.
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So damn true. And see, even Neji and his special set of eyes couldn't escape Kishimoto's shitty writing. The death of this specific character is particularly ironic because he was supposed to be the one who's overcome the cursed fate of the Bunke (meaning "dying for the sake of the Soke"). To make things worse, he didn't even die in order to actually save a member of the Soke, he died for an underdeveloped pairing to happen. So much for the inpiring message NARUTO was supposed to convey.
I believe the Pain arc is when Kishimoto's talented editor left the manga, which is why it became so bad afterwards.
But you're not the first person to tell me that you disliked/dropped/whatever after the Pain arc. Many, many people had the same reaction.
Unfortunately for me, back then, I didn't have much critical judgement on the series, I simply followed it because I naively "loved the characters".
Men, if I had known...
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Don't forget The BS line about "Uchihas love more than anyone else". Yeah right, the only thing they ever loved which has been proven time and again is power and control
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Naruto and Sakura are just friends, dude, narusaku as a romantic ship is a pairing crack, in The Last the movie, Naruto don't know what romantic love is, his first love is Hinata, he only said that liked sakura in part 1 because of rivalry with sasuke (heck this is even confirmed in the manga chapter 3 "i understand why I like sakura, she loves sasuke so much", watch the last and you will understand why this is a pairing crack.
Hinata as a character wouldn't make sense if narusaku was a thing, why? because hinata was CREATED to be naruto girlfriend.
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Delusion at its finest, I at least gotta thank for the good laugh !
And sorry, I still have too much respect for NARUTO as a manga to consider THE LAST canon.
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Kishimoto worked in the last (story not just desings) . Plus in a recent interview he said that he that narusaku is just friendship and the romantic was just rivalry with sasuke scene in the movie (and naruto confession to hinata) were his favorites scenes.
If you don't watched the last you shouldn't say that the movie isn't canon, since it tells an important part of the story (how naruto fell in love)
Sorry for narusaku fans but the last is canon in this franchise (that means, anime and manga)
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Yes, yes, yes. Absolutely~
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lol some ns fans still in denial xD
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We're not. We know NaruHina/SasuSaku are canon. We don't deny this. But if you think that's gonna make us give up on our ship, then you're sorely mistaken. That's as simple as that.
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it's like to ship GokuxBulma, dont' make sense. And yes, most of ns fans gave up (the ones who still there are really in denial with hilarious conspirations and crazy theories like "the 700 and the last are the mugen tsukuyomi" or "kishimoto sellout his manga to studio pierrot")
When i see a ns poster there i try to tell them that they're not right (naruto never felt really deep love towards sakura, and sakura ALWAYS loved sasuke), but they still thinks that they're right, when they aren't! lol kishimoto said that he planned the naruhina from the earliest times of the manga, and that's canon (for example yamato and sai things were just to create expectation deliberately)
he just don't developed any pairing because he felt it embarassing.
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But lemme tell you a secret... come closer... we don't CARE of what you think \o/ !
If people want to ship Goku x Bulma, they're absolutely free of doing it. And so are we to ship Naruto and Sakura
You, as a NHtard, got your victory. You got your canon. Shouldn't you be satisfied ? Don't you think you should leave other people alone ? Or is your victory so frail, so insignificant, that you think you won't feel satisfied until all the NS shippers have converted to NH like it's the new trendy religion ? Guess what, you can try as much as you want, but you're never shutting us down. The more NHtards like you will try to impose their views on us, the harder we'll ship NS.
Just so you know, no, the NS fandom hasn't given up on its OTP. Not only that, but now, we have the support of the SNS fandom as well as the support of neutral fans. We also have the support of disappointed NH/SS fans who hate the ending as well (just read the comments I got here, it'll give you a fairly good idea of the state of the fandom).
Now, please, by all means, enjoy your canon. The one that's SO bad it got criticized by Oda-sensei, Samura-sensei and even Takeuchi-san (who refused to be the seiyuu of Boruto as a way to protest against the ending).
As I already stated, I'd choose good quality fanon material over crappy quality canon material any day of the year.
You and I simply don't have the same level of standards (I even suspect you don't have standards at all).
'Cause if I were you, I'd be embarrassed to brag about my canon ship (that only has 38 pages of non-romantic interaction out of the ~14,000 pages of the manga) and I'd be even more ashamed to try and impose it on other peaceful shippers.
And now, I officially declare this discussion OVER
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you always shippers make a big deal about something is NOT IMPORTANT in the manga...
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That's rich coming from someone who has an icon of Ash and Misty kissing x).
I never said it was important in the manga, I said it was important to me.
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yeah! Satoshi and Kasumi are sooo cute together <3 XD AND unlike Sakura, Kasumi has a crush on Satoshi X). but my ship is dead many years ago. And now they replace Kasumi with another girl who also has a crush on Satoshi. but I don't remember myself complaining about it, because in the end it is just a "ship".
so you are saying you only watch Naruto for the pairing? so the ending is bad because Naruto didn't end up with Sakura?
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I like Ash and Misty together too
"so you are saying you only watch Naruto for the pairing? so the ending is bad because Naruto didn't end up with Sakura?"
^Sorry, but have I ever said that ? The ending is crap even from a NH and SS POV. The ships have very little to do with the ending of NARUTO being bad. It's a whole. Yes, I'm sad that NaruSaku didn't happen, but this and that are two separate matters.
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then why "the ending is crap"? can you example to me? because I don't see any thing wrong with it :\
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Deviantart is not the place for us to chat about that, it's a place for people to post their work.
If you can't find anything wrong with the ending, then I'm glad for you
I'm not on a mission to convince people that I am right and they are wrong, it alright to have your opinion, anf or me to have mine.
But if you wanna see why people are upset, then I recommend you visit the "anti-ending", "anti-kishimoto" or "naruno" tags on tumblr.
Now, I hope this discussion is over. Have a nice day.
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All their complaining centered over one thing "The pairing"
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All of these critiques are lies, provide sources lol, all of those seems to be created by chatte georgiana or angry ns fans. Heck Samura really loves naruto, have you seen the latest interview betwen samura and Kishimoto? Oda is a good friend of kishimoto and all he said about is that he consider kishimoto a rival and a friend, also he is displeased with SHONEN JUMP treatement in the final weeks of naruto i.imgur.com/EgC5YlI.png
they never said anything about naruto ending. Takenuchi never said that either. She'll voice naruto character in the next movie and the anime naruto adult. Would be weird using the same seiyu for both protagonists (boruto and naruto)
Also not all of sasukarin fans and sns are with narusakus, naruhina and sasusaku displeased? maybe 1 or 2, but most of them love the final, the neutral fans don't care about pairings, and there are A LOT of people (more than people that hate the last or the ending) that love The Last
I would have love to see sasukarin but whatever.
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Lies..? You know that only very few NS fans speak Japanese, right ? Chatte herself doesn't japanese. It's absolutely impossible for so many people to write all those critiques. I've seen the Japanese forums with my own eyes. My Japanese friend Yuuki (who is pro-ending) TOLD me the anger is real (even though he doesn't understand it himself).
I never trust only one source when I see negative feedback on something. I've seen the anger on twitter. It's real. I've also seen the side of the Japanese fandom that is OK with the ending. If you haven't seen the negative side, it means you've been avoiding it on purpose.
Yes, I have seen it the interview between Samura and Kishimoto. And I was refering to a recent interview of Oda in which he's partially blaming the fangirls for ruining shonen manga (this interview came out right at the same time as THE LAST and was interpreted by a lot of people as being a criticism of the impact fangirls had on NARUTO and its ending). But yeah, I also know Oda was pissed at JUMP because they didn't allow NARUTO to be on the cover for its last chapter. But this and that are different matters.
Now, I'm not saying that they openly criticized him. It was subtle criticism.
And yes, Takeuchi DID refuse Boruto's role (it's Konohamaru's seiyuu who's voicing him in THE LAST). And NO, it wouldn't have been weird for Takeuchi to be the seiyuu of Boruto. Go read the interviews of RTN. Takeuchi specifically asked Kishimoto if she could voice Naruto's son if he had one, and he said YES. Kishimoto allowed her to be the seiyuu of Naruto's son, but SHE changed her mind 'cause she's not okay with NaruHina (she's well-known for being a NaruSaku fan).
Of course, 99.99% of the NH/SS fandom is happy with the canon ending. But I'm more interested in the 0.01% that is not happy with it. Because these people, even if we don't agree on the pairings, deserved better.
And YES, 90% of the SNS/SK fans support the NS fandom (and vice-versa). Of course, there will always be a few people who aren't part of that, but most of the "anti-ending" or "anti-the last" posts on tumblr are reblogged by SNS/SK/NS fans. And it's exactly because neutral fans don't care about the pairings that a lot of them are angry at NH/SS for ruining the ending (it doesn't make them NS supporters, only people who hate the ending too).
Open your eyes for a minute : ONLY NH/SS fans are happy with the ending/THE LAST because these are made specifically for their pairings. The NH/SS fandom is maybe 30~40% of the NARUTO fandom. The rest is made of neutrals/SNS/SK/NS fans who aren't OK with it at all. Even people who don't care about the ending aren't going to follow part 3, just because "it's not Naruto's story anymore". Just wait for the sales of the DVD of THE LAST in Japan. Wait for the sales of the part 3 manga in Japan. Wait for the sales of BORUTO The Movie in Japan. Then you'll see how bad the whole situation is for the "new era".
I too would have loved to see SasuKarin, but yeah, it's not happening. This being said, I think we're done now.
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hmm, you seem pretty mellow to ask this.
what all and all did you want for Naruto? since i think we all know the story has it's plot holes. not gonna hide the fact i am naruhina shipper and i have seen the last naruto the movie but i have not come to fight with anyone....at least not today unless you want to play some guilty gear xrd lol but on a serious note i am not hear to fight or argue but i want to hear what your opinion not opinions coming from media or even folks in japan who most likely you've never met. i want to hear your thoughts on naruto overall. pairings like any manga or anime we all stand on different views so let's leave that out cause i think we both already know what pairings we like and want to which on that note glad to know you still ship your pairing while accepting the end of naruto with....i guess salt is the right term? idk much what phrases are in these days. anyway if it's not a problem can i hear your thoughts on the over all story of naruto why in specifically made this such a big deal for people to go nuts over then i'll reply with my likes, dislikes and put in some of my thoughts on why i think things can or do go this way.
again i say i am not here to argue but i do want to hear your thoughts on naruto as hole. i don't need to know you hated the ending or the last or pairings. those facts have been repeatedly established by others. i want to talk to someone who has a cool head to put in thoughts. i don't speak for any community far as pairings go i am here on my own like with everything else i do. i want to do this so we can all as naruto fans reach a common ground in which we can agree on things and at least take a step to put a close on this insane amount of bashing on the series and creator and out it behind us and move on. if you're willing please reply as i wait but if not then go ahead and feel free to hide or delete this comment. thank you.
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In short, my opinion on NARUTO as a whole is that it's a manga that conveyed a lot of good feelings to its fans throughout the years, which is why the fandom is so big. Be it anger, frustration, joy, sadness, relief, etc. Kishimoto usually did a good job at giving feels to the readers.
But the problems of the manga are SO big (even without taking 699-700-THE LAST into account), I can't seriously think of him as a writer. First, there are all the plot holes that will never be filled (the issue of the Uchiha and Hyuuga clans for instance), all the inconsistent mistakes and retcons (the Kaguya arc is so full of them I can't list them all here), and simply, the frustration to see a lot of the good characters he created never get any attention from the author (Tenten, Shino, Lee, Sakura even, ... !).
What bothers me the most is to see that the main theme of the manga, which is "important bonds" completely disappeared at the end : Team 7 is completely fragmented, Naruto and Sasuke failing as fathers (even though the notion of "family" was very important to them), etc.
There are way too many things that don't make sense for me. And even if I'm a NaruSaku shipper, I'm pretty sure I could write a NaruHina/SasuSaku ending using the SAME elements present in 699-700, and make it 80% more satifying for the rest of the fandom.
But what is done is done, and honestly, there is no point discussing it now. It's all over.
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okay roughly about the same thoughts where yes the relation between the hyuga and uchiha had some of a historical connection that was completely ignore, kaguya being thrown in there as a final opponent over madara was extremely last minute and out of nowhere since aside from historical facts there wasn't anything to suggest she should appear.
the attention ratio wasn't fair to the other characters in the series since it was mostly between naruto and sasuke. personally i don't really see much importance to team taka since sasuke has repeatedly used and ditched them over and over again. so idk what the hype over them was. ending was rushed and i was expecting there to be at least 36 pages in the last chapter.
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Good, we agree on most of the things
What's important with Team Taka isn't how Sasuke viewed them, it's how THEY viewed Sasuke. And yes, their relationship was important enough to have its own spinoff manga (the author of Naruto SD stopped his manga about Lee and started making a manga about Sasuke and Taka, but besides a few leaks, it hasn't really been released even though it was supposed to come out in October).
I agree, the last chapters needed more pages to look more convincing, but keep in mind that Kishimoto had been granted the right to publish TWO chapters in one JUMP issue, which is something veeery rare, so I guess he couldn't ask for even more pages since the magazine also has to publish other mangas.
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really? Jugo i get but suigetsu had his own agenda and karin was like an annoying bad mix of ino, sakura, and hinata where her identity was almost a clone of sakura when she was younger. i have heard about the spin off manga but i felt that guy was doing something since he can't think of anymore lee stories where even then i felt it was just cause he liked the characters and had nothing to do with popularity poll. still funny stuff.
yeah i get he can't ask for those pages on the jump magazine but i did think the extra pages were better needed in the actual manga.
on top of the plot holes we can't really tell kishimoto or SP what to do since we don't really work there or even work business where even then business is one of those things where the variables aren't always predictable and unless we show we got a degree to direct or write a script or draw manga all we can give are opinions and thoughts and simply say we like it or don't like it. if people liked it for what is despite the faults or the faults they didn't want to look for then i say let them be since we don't have any right to take the joy out of them liking it. that'd be like me constantly bashing or attacking anything related to attack on titan because i don't like it.
besides at least naruto got an end and isn't one of those series that drags itself on and on and on and on and on and on after a decade or around this 15 year mark. personally i think every series has a point it needs to stop at where everything else is just to left to the fan to figure out or ask what funny scenarios the author would like to do one day if he or she had the time for. i mean can any of us really say we can sit in an empty room to meet a weekly demand of a manuscript where even then it's like to get kicked back for changes and corrections. every mangaka whether their series is a success or a fail or even something we don't like does deserve respect for taking the time to do a series for a certain amount of time. yes you can say some faults about somethings kishimoto did but i don't think it's right to attack a guy for working 15 years on a series he started when i doubt any of us had anything to do with it where despite it's faults i think it did a lot of good over the years you know. if it at least did that then i think the series left you something to always remember. for everyone it's something different so i can't say anymore than that.
well that's how i come to see things anyway since even if we got like a narusaku, naruino, naruten, or even a naruto harem end, i would have complaints like most folks but it wouldn't be something to throw a huge fit over since i can just do fanfics to make an ending i would've wanted.
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I love how much I can see the emotion in their eyes, makes me feel like I'm in their place (if that makes sense) It still makes me a bit more angry that kishi openly stated that he made NaruSaku with soooo much development and actually made it NaruHina and said it was all a red herring to fool us .... if he hadn't had said that and had actually made NaruHina with development close to Narusakus and a better ending, then I wouldnt be as made as I am now
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Thank you very much ! I'm glad you can see how much effort I put into this ♥ !
I know what you mean ! If only Kishimoto had shut up, most of the NS/SK/SNS fandom wouldn't be as angry as they are now. His interviews destroyed what little credibility he had left as an author.
But heh, I'd sooner choose to live from great quality fanon stuff than crappy quality canon material
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I agree with that, its sad also how the characters in the end don't seem themselves (or is that just me? )but all us fans can produce a better story ending than the canon material
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No, you're perfectly right, the characters aren't themselves anymore which is why so many NS/SK/SNS/neutral and even some NH and SS fans are against the ending.
Also, thank you for all the faves ♪ !
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Does karin die in order for SasuSaku to happen?! Cuz if so, thats sad on how many people must die in order to force these couples together
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We don't know ! Team Taka's whereabouts are completely unknown ATM ! We don't know if they're alive or dead, if they still travel with Sasuke or not, nothing !
There was a rumor at some point that Karin might have died for SasuSaku, but it hasn't been confirmed. There's also another rumor that says that Orochimaru and Team Taka are going to be the villains in part 3... we really have no information at all currently...
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The idea of part 3 makes me sick and angry, I for one will not be watching that lol but I don't know about storm 4 tho... considering storm revolution was horrible like generations was but also I hope for it to surpass the other games ya know...? Its hard to watch something for ... 8 years and know it could have ended better than what it did in all aspects
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I know how you feel, and believe me, we have 60~70% of the NARUTO fandom thinking the same.
Part 3 will be a huuuge flop
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I hope so, I want Kishi to know he really let us hardcore fans down, I was so loyal even when my friends said shippuden was horrible (back when it first started) sadly they were right in the end
The regular series of NARUTO is still awesome with me tho
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Exactly ^^ ! Let's at least keep the good memories this manga gave us.
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Sorry, I was under the impression that this was going to be a part of a NaruSaku doujin.
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Hehe, you're right, when I finished it, I thought to myself "damn, it looks like the cover of a doujin !".
But unfortunately, my lack of skill doesn't allow me to draw doujin just yet ^^'.
I hope it'll be able to, someday
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Hey I wwaldn't say salty, I mean we just know what good writing is something we know something that ehe ending of Naruto does not have I mean Kishi from what I can tell says he does not know how to make SS happen.
Look all I can say is never give up on NS let the NH/SS have the ass pull ending which has to make filler by SP.
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Hiii~ ! Hehe, don't worry, I will never stop shipping my babies ♥ ! That's why I wrote "salty" between quotation marks, as a sarcastic reminder of what NH/SStards call us just because we have logic and development on our side ('_^ )b !
I'll gladly live from fanon material if it means my beloved OTP is spared from SP's "canon" shit.
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Oh that is good I know for one I will not watch this movie because the ending, from a story-telling stand point, was sh*tty. kishimoto killed not only naruto and sakura but everything else about his manga just to make the NH fans happy. he murdered his story for no reason. i have lost all respect for kishimoto and i refuse to look at anything related to his work. i had the next naruto game on reserve at gamestop. after the end, i went back and got my money back.
As a writer, it shames me to see how far it has fallen but the naruhina/sasusaku fans got what they wanted. they didn't care how much everything else suffered. they just wanted their ships. well, congrats. you got what you wanted.
But in the end it was only a passing thing, this shadow... Even darkness must pass.. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer, Those are stories that stayed with you, that meant something... Even if you were too small to understand why... But I think I do understand, I know now... Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't, they kept going. Cuz they were holding on to something ... That there's some good in this world... And It's worth fighting for !!!!!!
Samwise Gamgey from Lord of the Rings, stories like them are what will always be worth remembering, true we can also remember the good times that Naruto had but one day it will be forgoten.
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Thank you very much
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you are very welcome c:
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Thanks a lot ! That's very encouraging to read since I spent hours on it ^^ !
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